Sarah Palin hanging "holloween prop"

[DarrinS]

http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/18/2008/10/27/320x240/Palin.jpg


Extremely short article.


http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html

[byrontx]

Over the top. It is one thing to go after her beliefs, experience and issues but it is another to show such disrespect. This could be also interpreted as advocating her death which is just f'ing criminal.

[Shastafarian]

Over the top. It is one thing to go after her beliefs, experience and issues but it is another to show such disrespect. This could be also interpreted as advocating her death which is just f'ing criminal.

+1

[CubanMustGo]

Asinine. The Secret Service needs to pay the owner a visit.

[Wild Cobra]

What would the news be if it was Obama being hung?

[clambake]

What would the news be if it was Obama being hung?

i don't know. let's ask "blackeyed B girl".

[Drachen]

yeah, so I have to say that this is ridiculous. As another poster said, send in the SS.

[boutons_]

"if it was Obama being hung?"

"if it WERE Obama being hung"

and yes, the effigy with Obama's name hung by an admitted racist did make the news, and this forum. your selective forgetting conforms to your ultra-right wing prejudice.

[PixelPusher]

What would the news be if it was Obama being hung?

ExGERNO9cK0

lol at the Star of David on the top of the head. Peoples are dumb.

[Bartleby]

"Husain"

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

They should have dressed her in leather and put her in whatever position whottt wrote about to Penthouse Forum.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What would the news be if it was Obama being hung?

The property owner would be tried for a hate crime. But seeings it's Palin it's just a guy exercising his right to free speech, propped up by some lame ass reference to Halloween decorations.

[Shastafarian]

The property owner would be tried for a hate crime. But seeings it's Palin it's just a guy exercising his right to free speech, propped up by some lame ass reference to Halloween decorations.

Does your brain ever get gross and stinky with all the shit that comes out of it?

[PixelPusher]

The property owner would be tried for a hate crime. But seeings it's Palin it's just a guy exercising his right to free speech, propped up by some lame ass reference to Halloween decorations.

The guy who hung an Obama ghost effigy from his tree is being tried for a hate crime? link?

ExGERNO9cK0

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

I think the racist and sexist undercurrents that have come to the table on both sides of this election (left and right) have revealed a lot about our country that still needs examination. As much as it makes me cringe, it also give me hope that being forced to look this kind of thing smack in the face will ensure that we don't dismiss it as something that never happens anymore.

I don't think this is a hate crime, it's just an act of hate. So long as it's on private property I agree that it's protected by free speech (and I would continue to uphold that same belief if it were Obama-related).

[FromWayDowntown]

It's outrageous. It would be outrageous if it were an effigy of Obama, too. For that matter, it would be outrageous to me if it were an effigy of boutons, whottt, timvp, or Aggie Hoopsfan.

[MannyIsGod]

It's outrageous. It would be outrageous if it were an effigy of Obama, too. For that matter, it would be outrageous to me if it were an effigy of boutons, whottt, timvp, or Aggie Hoopsfan.

Wow even boutons?

[JoeChalupa]

Totally inappropriate.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW, if you ever want to make a point using something like this to make it is pretty ridiculous. Any sane person on the left is going to decry it for the bullshit it is and the others are all nut jobs you aren't ever going to prove a point to anyway.

[ChumpDumper]

Looks more like Janet Reno.

The McCain doll is a fail too. the face looks stereotypically Asian for some reason.

"It's West Hollywood after all."

Ain't that the truth. Decent folk won't go close enough to the place to be outraged.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

Extremely short article.

About the same length as: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlnR7kQP7tXQKA0872BAweYKqPFQD93HB2L80

Of course the Palin effigy you've shown is a simpler story if only because the person displaying it isn't hiding and the secret service doesn't have to go digging to figure out if it's a threat or a prank.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Does your brain ever get gross and stinky with all the shit that comes out of it?

So you don't have a problem with it, gotcha.

[Tully365]

Over the top. It is one thing to go after her beliefs, experience and issues but it is another to show such disrespect. This could be also interpreted as advocating her death which is just f'ing criminal.


+1


The property owner would be tried for a hate crime. But seeings it's Palin it's just a guy exercising his right to free speech, propped up by some lame ass reference to Halloween decorations.


Does your brain ever get gross and stinky with all the shit that comes out of it?


So you don't have a problem with it, gotcha.


The reason it is impossible to argue with Aggie Hoopsfan.

[Shastafarian]

So you don't have a problem with it, gotcha.

I have a problem with you being such an idiot. I have a problem with that.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

The reason it is impossible to argue with Aggie Hoopsfan.

Be compassionate. It could be that he's just another lost visitor from an unfortunate alternate reality.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2007/apr/09/00020/

Such people have been identified for over a year now and it is not their fault that their sense of logic and history is askew.

[whottt]

Yes another scumbag Obama supporter...

[ElNono]

Yes another scumbag Obama supporter...

LOL, well said you partisan hack!

[Mr. Peabody]

How do we know that the effigy is not of Tina Fey?

[Buddy Holly]

One of the FOX and Friends retards actually thought this could be a hate crime.

It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.

[Shastafarian]

One of the FOX and Friends retard actually thought this could be a hate crime.

It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.

Colbert had a great joke about them last week. He was going off on how we couldn't let cartoon characters vote because they'd surely be democrats. His solution was to drop anvils on people's heads. If a bump began to protrude from their head, they were a cartoon character and we shouldn't let them vote. If their skull was crushed then they can vote, or host FOX and Friends. It was a segment of The Word so the punchline was typed and put on screen. It was hilarious...and accurate.

[J.T.]

What would the news be if it was Obama being hung?

Just as much news as it would be someone guessing you weren't going to make this post.

[FromWayDowntown]

One of the FOX and Friends retards actually thought this could be a hate crime.

It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.

If it would be a hate crime to depict a black man hung in effigy (and there's reason to think it might), I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a hate crime to depict a white woman hung in effigy. I'd generally agree that it's not a hate crime in either situation, but it can't be a hate crime in one scenario and not a hate crime in the other.

It's ridiculous in either situation and should be tolerable in no situation.

[DarkReign]

If it would be a hate crime to depict a black man hung in effigy (and there's reason to think it might), I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a hate crime to depict a white woman hung in effigy. I'd generally agree that it's not a hate crime in either situation, but it can't be a hate crime in one scenario and not a hate crime in the other.

It's ridiculous in either situation and should be tolerable in no situation.

Honest legal question...

If hanging something in effigy (whether black, white, woman, man, jew, christian, etc) is a hate crime, why arent the public rallies of Nazis and KKK?

I mean, an effigy just sits there while these people have bullhorns and an attitude, actively preaching death and destruction to other humans in plain sight, down Main streets (hating that phrase lately).

What is the difference? Why is a silent effigy a hate crime, but actively and vocally spreading hate not a hate crime?

[MannyIsGod]

If it would be a hate crime to depict a black man hung in effigy (and there's reason to think it might), I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a hate crime to depict a white woman hung in effigy. I'd generally agree that it's not a hate crime in either situation, but it can't be a hate crime in one scenario and not a hate crime in the other.

It's ridiculous in either situation and should be tolerable in no situation.

Which is exactly why hate crime legislation is ridiculous. Its a legislature's dream invention. Make something illegal that already was illegal and run as being tough on crime.

[smeagol]

Those F&F anchors are fucking dumb. Especially the blonde dude . . .

[Shastafarian]

Those F&F anchors are fucking dumb. Especially the blonde dude . . .

Steve Doocy aka The Deuce!!! He wrote a book about being a Father. I wonder how many times he himself has stuck things into the electrical outlet.

[Tully365]

How do we know that the effigy is not of Tina Fey?

:worthy: Brilliant!

[doobs]

A few things:

(1) this is not a hate crime; whether or not you agree with enhacing punishment for violent crimes that are inspired by racial hatred, it's clear that this is not in that category

(2) this is tasteless and cruel, but it begs the issue of double standards; if this were Obama hanging in effigy, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be agitating and CNN would be doing a ten-part series on racism in America

(3) the hatred for Palin--on the left and the right--is puzzling to me; I don't like her, but I'm honest enough to admit that I'm embarrassed to have a VP who sounds like she's from Fargo--in other words, I want my president and my VP to look and sound a certain way, and I know it's a stupid thing to care about; but the hatred for her, and the doubt as to her qualifications, is like nothing I've ever seen (BTW, Obama ain't much more qualified, and Biden says absurdly idiotic things every day)

[Shastafarian]

(2) this is tasteless and cruel, but it begs the issue of double standards; if this were Obama hanging in effigy, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be agitating and CNN would be doing a ten-part series on racism in America


Do people not read the threads they post in?

[Wild Cobra]

The guy who hung an Obama ghost effigy from his tree is being tried for a hate crime? link?

ExGERNO9cK0
Didn't watch the Boob-tube link, but I doubt anything will happen. Now if a noose was used instead of fishing line just to string the figure, then yes. There would be a 'hate crime' trial.

[doobs]

Do people not read the threads they post in?

I did read it, and no, I don't see CNN doing a ten part series anytime soon in response to this.

What's your point?

[Bender]

Does your brain ever get gross and stinky with all the shit that comes out of it?
damn there are some real retards on this forum

[Shastafarian]

I did read it, and no, I don't see CNN doing a ten part series anytime soon in response to this.

What's your point?By "this" I take it you mean the Sarah Palin effigy hanging.

There have been a couple posts in this thread about effigies of Obama hanging by nooses...I have yet to see any national news media go off the deep end calling for those responsible to be prosecuted for anything.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't think this is a hate crime, it's just an act of hate. So long as it's on private property I agree that it's protected by free speech (and I would continue to uphold that same belief if it were Obama-related).
Should there be a difference?

Let's see. Jena six. Nooses hung that were actually lasso's.... Hate crime.

Anywhere... Noose hung with nothing inside... Hate crime...

Noose with a depiction of a white person... Free speech...

Noose with a depiction of a black person... Hate crime...

Fucking hypocrites! Losers. Anti-first amendment. You can all go fuck yourselves.

Either treat this situation of a Palin hanging with very bit of intensity you would if it were a black person, or go fuck yourself.

Want equal rights, then demand equal justice.

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't watch the Boob-tube link, but I doubt anything will happen. Now if a noose was used instead of fishing line just to string the figure, then yes. There would be a 'hate crime' trial.How do you know it's fishing line if you didn't watch it?

[Wild Cobra]

One of the FOX and Friends retards actually thought this could be a hate crime.

It's stupid and incredibly offensive but a hate crime it is not.

So, you're a racist?

You think blacks deserve protection from hate speech that whites don't?

[Shastafarian]

Let's see. Jena six. Nooses hung that were actually lasso's.... Hate crime.


What? When? How? What are you smoking?

[ChumpDumper]

Who hangs lassos from trees?

[Wild Cobra]

How do you know it's fishing line if you didn't watch it?
I missed "ghost" and assumed it was the George Fox incident, that's why I said fishing line. Looks like I may be wrong on this one.

Clarification. I am speaking of the incident at Geroge Fox College in Newberg Oregon.

[Wild Cobra]

Who hangs lassos from trees?
Remember the Jena Six incident? They hung lasso's after game victories. The time before the supposible one that sparked the beating, the Rodeo team hung a dipiction of a rivals mascot in one, after they won. A Mavrick if I remember right. It was simply a normal thing, but when the media got hold of the story, the lasso's became nooses.

[Shastafarian]

Remember the Jena Six incident? They hung lasso's after game victories. The time before the supposible one that sparked the beating, the Rodeo team hung a dipiction of a rivals mascot in one, after they won. A Mavrick if I remember right. It was simply a normal thing, but when the media got hold of the story, the lasso's became nooses.

Try again

[Wild Cobra]

What? When? How? What are you smoking?

A thread from last year:

The Jena Six (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77077&highlight=lasso)

[clambake]

Should there be a difference?

Let's see. Jena six. Nooses hung that were actually lasso's.... Hate crime.

Anywhere... Noose hung with nothing inside... Hate crime...

Noose with a depiction of a white person... Free speech...

Noose with a depiction of a black person... Hate crime...

Fucking hypocrites! Losers. Anti-first amendment. You can all go fuck yourselves.

Either treat this situation of a Palin hanging with very bit of intensity you would if it were a black person, or go fuck yourself.

Want equal rights, then demand equal justice.



My God, Man!

[Shastafarian]

A thread from last year:

The Jena Six (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77077&highlight=lasso)

I know what The Jena Six is. Are you saying people here called it a hate crime or people's whose opinions actually matter called it a hate crime?

[ChumpDumper]

Remember the Jena Six incident? They hung lasso's after game victories. The time before the supposible one that sparked the beating, the Rodeo team hung a dipiction of a rivals mascot in one, after they won. A Mavrick if I remember right. It was simply a normal thing, but when the media got hold of the story, the lasso's became nooses.Nooses a Signal to Black Students. An investigation by school officials, police, and an FBI agent revealed the true motivation behind the placing of two nooses in the tree the day after the assembly. According to the expulsion committee, the crudely constructed nooses were not aimed at black students. Instead, they were understood to be a prank by three white students aimed at their fellow white friends, members of the school rodeo team. (The students apparently got the idea from watching episodes of "Lonesome Dove.") The committee further concluded that the three young teens had no knowledge that nooses symbolize the terrible legacy of the lynchings of countless blacks in American history.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1024/p09s01-coop.html

That's from the editor of Jena's newspaper.

I certainly believe it was a misunderstanding born of ignorance, but these weren't celebratory lassos. Nobody does that.

[Wild Cobra]

I know what The Jena Six is. Are you saying people here called it a hate crime or people's whose opinions actually matter called it a hate crime?
Wihin that thread, I linked some articles that factually addressed the lasso's. The time before the 'lasso' in the tree, they hung a Mustang, an opposing team mascot. Now I wonder if it was actually hung, or just tied to the so-called "White Tree?" Naturally, they would hang without something in them, right?

Read the thread and follow the links.

[Wild Cobra]

Nooses a Signal to Black Students. An investigation by school officials, police, and an FBI agent revealed the true motivation behind the placing of two nooses in the tree the day after the assembly. According to the expulsion committee, the crudely constructed nooses were not aimed at black students. Instead, they were understood to be a prank by three white students aimed at their fellow white friends, members of the school rodeo team. (The students apparently got the idea from watching episodes of "Lonesome Dove.") The committee further concluded that the three young teens had no knowledge that nooses symbolize the terrible legacy of the lynchings of countless blacks in American history.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1024/p09s01-coop.html

That's from the editor of Jena's newspaper.

I certainly believe it was a misunderstanding born of ignorance, but these weren't celebratory lassos. Nobody does that.
If you want to reopen the incident beyong just the reference, then please post that in the appropriate thread.

[Shastafarian]

Wihin that thread, I linked some articles that factually addressed the lasso's. The time before the 'lasso' in the tree, they hung a Mustang, an opposing team mascot. Now I wonder if it was actually hung, or just tied to the so-called "White Tree?" Naturally, they would hang without something in them, right?

Read the thread and follow the links.

That thread is 11 pages. Why don't you just answer the question I asked?

[clambake]

wild cobra defending the white guys that hung ropes in jena. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

If you want to reopen the incident beyong just the reference, then please post that in the appropriate thread.i simply wanted to correct your error. You error was in this thread, so the correction should be here too.

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

Should there be a difference?

Let's see. Jena six. Nooses hung that were actually lasso's.... Hate crime.

Anywhere... Noose hung with nothing inside... Hate crime...

Noose with a depiction of a white person... Free speech...

Noose with a depiction of a black person... Hate crime...

Fucking hypocrites! Losers. Anti-first amendment. You can all go fuck yourselves.

Either treat this situation of a Palin hanging with very bit of intensity you would if it were a black person, or go fuck yourself.

Want equal rights, then demand equal justice.

Is it a clinical condition that none of the far-right members of this board seem to understand how to compare apples to apples, or is there something in the water in certain parts of Texas?

There is a huge difference between this incident and the other two. Two of them are actual crimes and one is not. In order for something to be categorized as a hate crime it has to be a crime in the first place. Hanging something on your own property is not a crime. Hanging something on property that doesn't belong to you is vandalization and is a crime.

I'm not in the habit of demanding justice when there hasn't been an actual crime committed. But maybe I'm just too busy fucking myself.

My personal feeling on hate crime legislation is that it should apply only to minority groups who are denied rights under current law, but that is not my call. Obviously, most crimes of an incendiary nature run the risk of igniting the kinds of public tension that hate crime legislation is intended to help quell. I fully expect that once gays are finally fully recognized by the state hate crime legislation will be phased out, largely because the social threat of rioting, etc by an oppressed minority will no longer need to be appeased.

[ChumpDumper]

Is it a clinical condition that none of the far-right members of this board seem to understand how to compare apples to apples, or is there something in the water in certain parts of Texas?Dude's in Oregon.

[DarkReign]

Dude's in Oregon.

Isnt that a blue state?

Man, no wonder he is so miserable.