I voted for Obama, but I hate the left

[DarrinS]

If today's Democratic party was the same party of JFK, I'd probably call myself a conservative democrat --- like JFK.


I can't stand the current version of the GOP and I can't stand the current version of the Democratic party.


And, I'm sick of this socialist v. socialist election.


Fuck it -- we'll do it live.


5j2YDq6FkVE

[Warlord23]

What's the point of this thread? We already know you hate the Dems.

At least BRHornet's threads are entertaining. Maybe you should post less as yourself and more as that lame AntiChrist troll.

[AntiChrist]

What's good for France is good for the U.S.

[Findog]

If today's Democratic party was the same party of JFK, I'd probably call myself a conservative democrat --- like JFK.


I can't stand the current version of the GOP and I can't stand the current version of the Democratic party.


And, I'm sick of this socialist v. socialist election.


Fuck it -- we'll do it live.


5j2YDq6FkVE


What's so bad about socialism? Sweden is a real hellhole.

[DarrinS]

What's so bad about socialism? Sweden is a real hellhole.



Man, I just dipped my toe in the KoolAid, but you guys are beer-bonging it.

[TheMadHatter]

We know. Stop making threads.

[doobs]

Man, I just dipped my toe in the KoolAid, but you guys are beer-bonging it.

Sounds like you're experiencing buyer's remorse

[DarrinS]

Sounds like you're experiencing buyer's remorse


I think I would've felt this way after voting for either of them.


It's kinda like going to the pet store a choosing between a dog covered in its own shit or a dog covered in throwup.

[doobs]

I think I would've felt this way after voting for either of them.


It's kinda like going to the pet store a choosing between a dog covered in its own shit or a dog covered in throwup.

Why vote, then?

I agree with you, that one and the other one are less than stellar candidates. My vote won't matter much in Texas anyway, so why vote?

Heck, I might just vote for Barr or something.

[boutons_]

Be clear, what is "the left"?

Is it just Pelosi or Reid, both of whom are unimpressive in the extreme and will be obstacles to overcome by HUSSEIN's presidency.

What "left" ideas do you hate and why?

[DarrinS]

Be clear, what is "the left"?



you and people like you

[spurster]

If you knew what socialism really was, you wouldn't feel so bad.

[BRHornet45]

At least BRHornet's threads are entertaining.

thanks son. god bless

[hater]

http://designcrack.com/v2/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/crying-baby.jpg

[ElNono]

Did you wash your hands after you voted?

[ChumpDumper]

Nice drama. Are you going to do this every few hours?

[DarrinS]

If you knew what socialism really was, you wouldn't feel so bad.



:bang


Ironically, I am Swedish.

[boutons_]

Do you live in Sweden?

"you and people like you"

... love to see "people like you" squirm in distress as your beloved Repugs and neo-c*nts leave office, NOT to be replaced by McSame.

Tell us how wonderful the world has been under the Repugs, and why McSame should give us more of the same, and probably worse.

[byrontx]

I am a conservative democrat. What's wrong with that? The dems are holding the middle ground while the wingnuts run the repub party. I m very wary of corporate power. I do not believe in trickle-down economics. I like economic policies that are geared towards bettering the lot of the middle class. I do not care about gays marrying one another-they may as well be as miserable as the rest of us.

And I reject the notion of preemptive war!

It appears that a big chunk of America feels the same way.

Good vote, Darrin.

[whottt]

So you hate the left yet you voted for the most leftist Presidential Candidate in history when we already have the most leftist Congress in history?

You're fucking brilliant dude...


Why not just title every thread you proudly start, "I am an incomparable dumbass", at least then your true point would be getting across.

I'd just as soon you shut up and stop calling out the lefties on this forum, since you are one of them.


If you doubt...just watch how they'll run to your defense following this post.


Stick to your own kind in the future please...

[RandomGuy]

If today's Democratic party was the same party of JFK, I'd probably call myself a conservative democrat --- like JFK.


I can't stand the current version of the GOP and I can't stand the current version of the Democratic party.


And, I'm sick of this socialist v. socialist election.


What would make you more comfortable with the Democrats? i.e. what specifically would have to change?

[spurster]

:bang


Ironically, I am Swedish.

So how is Obama so socialist? The most socialist aspect of his policies would be health care, I suppose, but that is intended to "build on the existing health care system". Also note that US, state, and local governments pay for 50% of health care already.

[DarkReign]

If you doubt...just watch how they'll run to your defense following this post.

Stick to your own kind in the future please...

Yeah, you do have a way of uniting the entire board against you, save Clanny, Yoni, Xray, HookDem and BRHornets.

Outside Yoni and yourself, thats some real pleasant company you keep in the "rational mind" category.

[ElNono]

Stick to your own kind in the future please...

Is that the Palin kind?
:lmao

[whottt]

Yeah, you do have a way of uniting the entire board against you,

That's because there are a lot of stupid people on this board. It's by design.

I pick my own enemies 95% of the time...whether you realize it or not. I generally have a disdain for being on the same side of things as the terminally stupid.




save Clanny, Yoni, Xray, HookDem and BRHornets.

Yeah well....you are a guy that claims to be a conservative that is on the same side of the line as several admitted socialists on the board...

One of us is an idiot who

A. Doesn't know what a conservative is.
B. Doesn't know what he is.




Outside Yoni and yourself, thats some real pleasant company you keep in the "rational mind" category.

They are far more rational than the lefties are...



In any case...shouldn't you be laughing at depcitions of violence towards women and calling them stupid like the rest of the Libs on the board?


As you were...

[ElNono]

One of us is an idiot who

A. Doesn't know what a conservative is.
B. Doesn't know what he is.


I'll dare saying that one of you definitely:
C. Doesn't know what socialism is.

[clambake]

is whottt going to move to alaska now?

[RandomGuy]

That's because there are a lot of stupid people on this board. It's by design.

I pick my own enemies 95% of the time...whether you realize it or not. I generally have a disdain for being on the same side of things as the terminally stupid.




Yeah well....you are a guy that claims to be a conservative that is on the same side of the line as several admitted socialists on the board...

One of us is an idiot who

A. Doesn't know what a conservative is.
B. Doesn't know what he is.




They are far more rational than the lefties are...



In any case...shouldn't you be laughing at depcitions of violence towards women and calling them stupid like the rest of the Libs on the board?


As you were...

Incredible. You just don't know when to stop.

A guy with generally conservative leanings says "I hate getting attacked by some of the right-leaning nutjobs, it makes me not want to vote for candidates thay back".

Then you come out and go right on attacking him.

You aren't a conservative. You are a nutter. Please stop deluding yourself.

[whottt]

Incredible. You just don't know when to stop.

A guy with generally conservative leanings says "I hate getting attacked by some of the right-leaning nutjobs, it makes me not want to vote for candidates thay back".

Then you come out and go right on attacking him.


I did stupid fuck? Why don't you read his post you hypocritcal piece of shit..

Or is that too much to ask of your stupid little attention span?

PS: I never want to be on the same side of anything as someone who fancies themself a financial whizkid yet doesn't even know what a Capital Gains tax is..

I bet you Yoni, Clambake, Clandestino and all those guys know what one is...

Hell...I bet ElNono knows what one is.



You aren't a conservative. You are a nutter. Please stop deluding yourself.


I've never claimed I'm a conservative...where in the hell did you get that from?

Just because I know what one is doesn't mean I'm claiming to be one...

[DarkReign]

That's because there are a lot of stupid people on this board. It's by design.

I pick my own enemies 95% of the time...whether you realize it or not. I generally have a disdain for being on the same side of things as the terminally stupid.

Oh, I wholly realize that. Youre the ST equivalent of "Shock and Awe" and about half as effective.


Yeah well....you are a guy that claims to be a conservative that is on the same side of the line as several admitted socialists on the board...

One of us is an idiot who

A. Doesn't know what a conservative is.
B. Doesn't know what he is.

Eh, fair enough. I am not afraid of being wrong as I have no God complex that forces me to think I am right in all things, all the time.

I am a conservative and I havent voted yet. Seeing as Michigan is in the bag, Im thinking of voting thrid party or for Popeye, Im not entirely sure yet.

But I do know I wont vote for McCain. Thats a shame really. My loyalties are not determined by letters at the end of names, nor will my decision making process ever be determined by such trivial distinctions.


They are far more rational than the lefties are...

In any case...shouldn't you be laughing at depcitions of violence towards women and calling them stupid like the rest of the Libs on the board?

As you were...

Although I am not entirely sure what you are referring to in the "violence against women" category, categorizing people as rational solely on the basis of their agreement with you is anything short the definition of rational.

A critical mind doesnt latch on to all the ideas created by a group solely because their overall agenda best fits there own. A rational mind discerns the difference between group-think and individualism. While its true no party/religion will ever fall in line with all my personal beliefs, Im not above agreeing with one thing and disagreeing with another.

I cant accept one political party as my moral compass in the event that I have a deep disagreement with them on some issue of import to me. Nor can I use their letter designation as a sign of comfort in times of unknowing or uncertainty. I am an equal opportunity asshole, black, white, woman, Repub, Demo, or otherwise.

McCain would have gotten my vote wholesale with no Palin. I cant in good conscience vote to give one party all the power....see the first 6 years of Bush Jr for reference. So with that said, I am not an undecided voter. My vote was already determined by way of residence in Michigan. The only thing I truly affect is the popular vote and thats the euivalent of second place being the first loser.

[DarrinS]

What would make you more comfortable with the Democrats? i.e. what specifically would have to change?


I'm not for socialized medicine and their "fair" tax plan. Also, I think they are better at pointing fingers than getting anything done.


I consider myself fiscally conservative and socially moderate. Issues that I don't care about are: abortion, gay marriage, and global warming. I do think that we need to reprioritize our military efforts and better border control. I don't own any guns, but I don't want the govt. to keep people from owning guns.

:wakeup

[whottt]

Oh, I wholly realize that. Youre the ST equivalent of "Shock and Awe" and about half as effective.



Eh, fair enough. I am not afraid of being wrong as I have no God complex that forces me to think I am right in all things, all the time.


Me either...it just so happens I am right a great deal of the time and people simply refuse to admit it....probably because I used words like idiot and piece of shit to describe them...but shouldn't those names be beside the point as to whether or not I'm actually right?

The irrationatlity of these guys is hilarious.




I am a conservative and I havent voted yet. Seeing as Michigan is in the bag, Im thinking of voting thrid party or for Popeye, Im not entirely sure yet.

But I do know I wont vote for McCain. Thats a shame really. My loyalties are not determined by letters at the end of names, nor will my decision making process ever be determined by such trivial distinctions.



Although I am not entirely sure what you are referring to in the "violence against women" category, categorizing people as rational solely on the basis of their agreement with you is anything short the definition of rational.

A critical mind doesnt latch on to all the ideas created by a group solely because their overall agenda best fits there own. A rational mind discerns the difference between group-think and individualism. While its true no party/religion will ever fall in line with all my personal beliefs, Im not above agreeing with one thing and disagreeing with another.

I cant accept one political party as my moral compass in the event that I have a deep disagreement with them on some issue of import to me. Nor can I use their letter designation as a sign of comfort in times of unknowing or uncertainty. I am an equal opportunity asshole, black, white, woman, Repub, Demo, or otherwise.

McCain would have gotten my vote wholesale with no Palin. I cant in good conscience vote to give one party all the power....see the first 6 years of Bush Jr for reference. So with that said, I am not an undecided voter. My vote was already determined by way of residence in Michigan. The only thing I truly affect is the popular vote and thats the euivalent of second place being the first loser.




No offense, but if your convoluted and contradictory political ideology is typical of the average Michigander I am no longer mystified as to why that state is now the anus of America.


Dumbasses....you deserve whatever you get.

[Tully365]

It's kinda like going to the pet store a choosing between a dog covered in its own shit or a dog covered in throwup.

I'm sure that hosing off throwup would be quite a bit easier than hosing off shit. Does that make the decision easier?

[ChumpDumper]

You haven't done enough drugs. Do more drugs and you can be like me.

[Tully365]

I pick my own enemies 95% of the time...whether you realize it or not.



You also seem to hate about 95% of humanity, which is a pretty convenient cop out, and probably not the most noble approach to life.

I think it is very likely that many of your friends, family, and co-workers share many of the same opinions as people in this forum that you routinely refer to as morons, idiots, and losers.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

So you hate the left yet you voted for the most leftist Presidential Candidate in history when we already have the most leftist Congress in history?

You're fucking brilliant dude...


Why not just title every thread you proudly start, "I am an incomparable dumbass", at least then your true point would be getting across.

I'd just as soon you shut up and stop calling out the lefties on this forum, since you are one of them.


If you doubt...just watch how they'll run to your defense following this post.


Stick to your own kind in the future please...

Stick to your own kind?? wow, you are even more of an idiot than people here give you credit for whottty boy. WTF kind is that? The blind partisan bats you fucking idiot? or the people that think their choice through and decide to vote their conscience and not the "side". Jesus you're one true. fucking. moron! you know that?

and to all you idiots crying "socialism is here", why don't you try and live in a real socialist nation so you can finally understand what the fuck you're talking about! The US isn't going to turn socialist you jackasses. Argentina has a higher chance of turning world power than America turning socialist, period. :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

cue whottt pulling out his signature "third world" bullshit to deflect attention from his utter idiocy

[whottt]

cue whottt pulling out his signature "third world" bullshit to deflect attention from his utter idiocy

Spoken line a true third worlder...blame everyone but yourself :tu



By the way...have I told you how much I appreciate your snipes...seeing as how I call Democrats and their candidate anti-Americans, your comments and voting tendencies on the forum are always a plus. :tu

[whottt]

This would be a good sport for an ElNono comment as well...by all means ElNono..make you point.

[smeagol]

Be clear, what is "the left"?

Is it just Pelosi or Reid, both of whom are unimpressive in the extreme and will be obstacles to overcome by HUSSEIN's presidency.

What "left" ideas do you hate and why?

Aren't you the gus who loves Chavez . . . ?

[ChumpDumper]

This would be a good sport for an ElNono comment as well...by all means ElNono..make you point.Me first.

[whottt]

Aren't you the gus who loves Chavez . . . ?


Anyone who loves Obama loves Chavez...cut from the exact same cloth.

[DarkReign]

No offense, but if your convoluted and contradictory political ideology is typical of the average Michigander I am no longer mystified as to why that state is now the anus of America.


Dumbasses....you deserve whatever you get.

Now you can seriously kiss my ass, egomaniac. Ive always tried being civil, youre entirely too cool for that. Fuck off.

[ElNono]

Me either...it just so happens I am right a great deal of the time and people simply refuse to admit it....probably because I used words like idiot and piece of shit to describe them...but shouldn't those names be beside the point as to whether or not I'm actually right?

The irrationatlity of these guys is hilarious.





Massive Voter Fraud!!!!!

Why's everyone laughing?


:lmao

[ElNono]

This would be a good sport for an ElNono comment as well...by all means ElNono..make you point.

Still can't get me out of your system???? :lmao
The last time I owned you was many months ago.
Let it go... we know you're a clown.

[whottt]

You also seem to hate about 95% of humanity,

Link?



which is a pretty convenient cop out, and probably not the most noble approach to life.

Neither is being a dumbass...Misanthropy aint no crime...if the world were that way there would no be war and no violence.

All those things are caused by simple human interaction. All of them.




I think it is very likely that many of your friends, family, and co-workers share many of the same opinions as people in this forum that you routinely refer to as morons, idiots, and losers.


Please...don't flatter yourself...it is completely unjustified. I know of no one close or personally like the libs on this forum.

[whottt]

Now you can seriously kiss my ass, egomaniac. Ive always tried being civil, youre entirely too cool for that. Fuck off.


Damn...that was easy.


And you started it...

[clambake]

...and he's not even pissed off yet.

[Tully365]

Link?
.

www.spurstalk.com

[LnGrrrR]

Misanthropy aint no crime...if the world were that way there would no be war and no violence.

Wait... if everyone was a misanthrope, there would be no war and violence? How does that logically follow? :rollin

[ElNono]

Wait... if everyone was a misanthrope, there would be no war and violence? How does that logically follow? :rollin

Logic never follows whottt

[whottt]

Well there's at least two people that don't know what a misanthrope is...and they think they're smart because of it...


Typical.

[whottt]

So let's see, so far:

Massive
Misanthrope

Oh yeah...Continent.

Those are just off the top of my head...you guys are so fucking smart.

[whottt]

Please, stop attacking and piling on, I can't take it anymore :lmao

[whottt]

The only this thread is missing is a typical dumbass comment by Findog...

[ElNono]

The only this thread is missing is a typical dumbass comment by Findog...

Actually, you have dumbass written all over your face... Please do go on, you can't pay for this kind of entertainment... :lmao

[Tully365]

... stupid fuck... hypocritcal piece of shit.. stupid....

PS: I never want to be on the same side of anything as someone



whottt's fighting techniques analyzed:

2eMkth8FWno

[ElNono]

Clown
4 entries found.

Main Entry:
clown
Pronunciation:
\ˈklaun\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
probably of Low German origin; akin to Frisian klönne clumsy fellow, Old English clyne lump of metal
Date:
1563

1: farmer , countryman
2: a rude ill-bred person : boor
3 a: a fool, jester, or comedian in an entertainment (as a play) ; specifically : a grotesquely dressed comedy performer in a circus b: a person who habitually jokes and plays the buffoon c: joker
4: whottt http://i35.tinypic.com/rbxw00.jpg

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Spoken line a true third worlder...blame everyone but yourself :tu



By the way...have I told you how much I appreciate your snipes...seeing as how I call Democrats and their candidate anti-Americans, your comments and voting tendencies on the forum are always a plus. :tu

ah I see... so what exactly are my voting tendencies whottt? Do you even know what the fuck you go on about anymore?? You think I'm a socialist? you think I'm a communist? No, wait, I know! you think I'm a "deadbeat-ist" :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Please, stop attacking and piling on, I can't take it anymore :lmao

Don't worry, I don't think anyone is expecting you to shut the fuck up anymore. You more likely to jump off a ledge than to admit you're wrong about something, so this is just par for the course.

[RandomGuy]

Capital Gains tax

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Anybody want a peanut?

[whottt]

ah I see... so what exactly are my voting tendencies whottt?

Idiot...do you not even remember who you voted for on hte forum poll for President?




Do you even know what the fuck you go on about anymore?? You think I'm a socialist? you think I'm a communist? No, wait, I know! you think I'm a "deadbeat-ist" :lol

You really don't want to know what I think about you...

[RandomGuy]

PS: I never want to be on the same side of anything as someone who fancies themself a financial whizkid yet doesn't even know what a Capital Gains tax is.

So all I have to do to get you to vote for Obama is say that I am voting for McCain?

That would almost be worth doing, just to f*** with you.

Just wait. I'm going to wait for a while, then start agreeing with you on something. About the time you start effusivly praising my intelligence, I'm going to link this back to this post. :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Idiot...do you not even remember who you voted for on hte forum poll for President?

I do, Obama. Do you even know why? I forget, you don't give a fuck. To you, Obama = Socialism...


You really don't want to know what I think about you...I'm dying to know whottt :lol

P.S. Just answer me this, do you think I'm a leftist? I have to go for now, but have your answer prepared for me pls, I'll get back to you when I finish class.

[RandomGuy]

I'm not for socialized medicine and their "fair" tax plan. Also, I think they are better at pointing fingers than getting anything done.



With mandatory tertiary care, we already have socialized medicine.

Our current system seems to be not functioning very well, so what would a solution be that you would support?

I ask because I know my opinion of what would work, and would be willing to try a comprimise system if it would get enough other people on board for a plan in general.

[ElNono]

:corn:

[nkdlunch]

looks like whott likes to get gangbanged

[LnGrrrR]

Well there's at least two people that don't know what a misanthrope is...and they think they're smart because of it...


Typical.

I know what it is putz. But misanthrope means not liking humanity. It doesn't mean becoming a hermit.

[sook]

the hypocritical douche bag "whottt" seems to have gotten raped in the asssssss:downspin:

[whottt]

I do, Obama. Do you even know why?

Yes...because you hate America, view it as a threat, and a country whose servives are no longer needed, and you now want to see it as fucked up as your country is.





I forget, you don't give a fuck. To you, Obama = Socialism...

To me Obama = a guys whose primary loyalties are not with the United States and who does not view it as a force for good in the world.

This means he is one of those guys that bitches about the Spurs if they don't win the title every year...a cynic.

I hate these guys...I wish they'd fuck off and die and stop spreading their misery...or go live in one of those fucked up countires they think is so great instead of trying to turn this one into one of them.




I'm dying to know whottt :lol

I'll give you the tame version and just call it inferiority...justified inferiority.

True you didn't just choose to not be born an American...but you did choose to be an anti-American.




P.S. Just answer me this, do you think I'm a leftist?

Since my definition of leftist includes people who hate America(including non-Americans)...yes..from my POV you are.

I know you dislike Che Guevera...but that doesn't mean you aren't a leftist.



pquote]
I have to go for now, but have your answer prepared for me pls, I'll get back to you when I finish class.[/QUOTE]

You're typical of every international wannabe intellectual who fancies himself an expert on my country based on the number of Bruckheimer films he's seen..and people with your political insights are a dime a dozen...the only time you're entertaining or a worrthwhile read is when you are talking about your country.

Other than that you bore me and I can get better insight from a boutons post.

[ElNono]

You're typical of every international wannabe intellectual who fancies himself an expert on my country based on the number of Bruckheimer films he's seen..and people with your political insights are a dime a dozen...the only time you're entertaining or a worrthwhile read is when you are talking about your country.

LOL, says the guy that claims to know everything about Muslims because he dated one once... surreal!!
:lmao

[sook]

LOL, says the guy that claims to know everything about Muslims because he dated one once... surreal!!
:lmao

the guy is a joke, for all the stupid shit he has said before, he appears to have no shame when he posts paragraphs of bullshit over and over

[whottt]

the guy is a joke, for all the stupid shit he has said before, he appears to have no shame when he posts paragraphs of bullshit over and over



What bullshit have I posted?


There's a difference between you being stupid and me posting bullshit...the fact that you aren't aware of many of the things I post makes you ignorant...not me a poster of bullshit.


Remember that...it's not that I post bullshit, it's that you are ignorant.

[timvp]

This thread is pretty funny.

Although whottt has made some "out there" claims during this election period, I do have to give him credit for two things he called correctly. He said the VP debate would be viewed by more people than any of the POTUS debates. People called him crazy at the time. Even after the VP debate, people said that the upcoming POTUS debates would get more viewers. Turned out the VP debate was viewed by more people than any of the POTUS debates, just like whottt said. Props on that one.

Props number two is when he said McCain planned to conduct his mortgage buy-back scheme using bailout money. People said whottt was wrong and basically the entire media said that wasn't the case. Turned out McCain did plan on using the bailout money. Props on that second one.

Now if McCain actually wins the election, whottt is going to have bragging rights for all eternity :lmao

I do wonder what whottt thinks of timvp likely voting for Obama. He offers his free psychoanalysis to every other Obama supporter. I want my breakdown :hungry:

[whottt]

I do wonder what whottt thinks of timvp likely voting for Obama. He offers his free psychoanalysis to every other Obama supporter. I want my breakdown :hungry:


You really and truly want my breakdown?


Tell you what...you tell me why I'm voting for McCain and why you are voting for Obama...then I'll tell you why you're voting for Obama.


I'll give you the easiest part of my analysis first on good faith.

: timvp likes being on the winning side. timvp thinks Obama is a shoein. timvp thinks he is riding a sure fire winner.

[timvp]

You really and truly want my breakdown? Yes. I want my free political psychoanalysis.



Tell you what...you tell me why I'm voting for McCain and why you are voting for Obama...then I'll tell you why you're voting for Obama. Why do you make me jump thru hoops when you give it away for free to everyone else?

Why are you voting for McCain? Well, from what I gather from your posts, you think Obama is just a token black candidate whose only noteworthy aspect is that he's black. It also appears you disagree with his tax plan, you disagree with his stance on abortion and you disagree with how he views the US in the grand scheme of the world. You also do not want to align yourself with the lunatic Obamatards ... which is actually a pretty good point.

Why am I voting for Obama? I've already one over this a hundred times on the forum. First of all, I think the GOP needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt. They need to find their conservative beginnings. I also think Obama is a good leader who can hopefully inspire the nation. While it's true that he has a lot of dumb people flocking behind him, I think there's a chance he can get those people motivated into making the US an even greater nation. I disagree with a vast majority of his proposals, especially economically, but I don't think he'll follow through with his promises -- so I'm not too worried about that. I also think that if McCain wins, the backlash from the left would very likely put this country into a tailspin. The right will be mad but not nearly as mad as the left would be. Bottomline is I think Obama is the better man for the job right now, all things considered. He's certainly flawed but I'm hoping most of his flaws won't amount to much harm.



I'll give you the easiest part of my analysis first on good faith.

: timvp likes being on the winning side. timvp thinks Obama is a shoein. timvp thinks he is riding a sure fire winner.Lame. What about timvp tells you he enjoys being on the winning side? Is it having AJ's back when the whole forum hated him? Was it becoming a Spurs fan back when the Spurs played the role of the modern day Suns? Is it having the gall to say that Bush isn't the worst president ever when everyone, including Republicans, are throwing him under the bus? That's a baseless remark to throw out there without any type of proof. Hell, I've even stuck up for your woman when the in thing to do was to call her a dumb whore and a disgrace to humanity.

:td @ claiming timvp is a bandwagoner.

[MannyIsGod]

This thread is pretty funny.

Although whottt has made some "out there" claims during this election period, I do have to give him credit for two things he called correctly. He said the VP debate would be viewed by more people than any of the POTUS debates. People called him crazy at the time. Even after the VP debate, people said that the upcoming POTUS debates would get more viewers. Turned out the VP debate was viewed by more people than any of the POTUS debates, just like whottt said. Props on that one.

Props number two is when he said McCain planned to conduct his mortgage buy-back scheme using bailout money. People said whottt was wrong and basically the entire media said that wasn't the case. Turned out McCain did plan on using the bailout money. Props on that second one.

Now if McCain actually wins the election, whottt is going to have bragging rights for all eternity :lmao

I do wonder what whottt thinks of timvp likely voting for Obama. He offers his free psychoanalysis to every other Obama supporter. I want my breakdown :hungry:

He got those 2, but he's missed on every other account. I mean fuck, Whottt is currently shooting under 20% and he sure as hell doesn't play lock up D.

I still stand by my point that Whottt is currently flinging tons of shit against the wall and just praying one or two of his turds stick.

[timvp]

He got those 2, but he's missed on every other account. I mean fuck, Whottt is currently shooting under 20% and he sure as hell doesn't play lock up D.

I still stand by my point that Whottt is currently flinging tons of shit against the wall and just praying one or two of his turds stick.

Are you comparing whottt to Brent Barry during the 2007 playoffs?

:stirpot:

[MannyIsGod]

Are you comparing whottt to Brent Barry during the 2007 playoffs?

:stirpot:

No, I'm comparing Whottt to Ron Mercer as a Spur. Hit some shots but for the most part he completely fucking sucked and deserved to be waived.

[BradLohaus]

This really is an entertaining thread.

In the end, the R party did it to themselves. Looking back 15 years... are they who they said they would be? As a whole, no. So what is happening today is no surprise; neither is the anger from the apologists.

[whottt]

He got those 2, but he's missed on every other account. I mean fuck, Whottt is currently shooting under 20% and he sure as hell doesn't play lock up D.

I still stand by my point that Whottt is currently flinging tons of shit against the wall and just praying one or two of his turds stick.


What the fuck have I missed on dude?


You know...I come to this forum infested with liberal inbreeding...I play it as easily as Tim Duncan plays Kenyon Martin...but one thing I don't do is miss.


I mean what have I fucking missed on?

I get told this shit all the time by people I have totally lapped...


Like on the fucking Constitutional thing a few weeks ago...

I listed Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, and the Quakers and their impact on the foundation of OUR Constitution, I repeated stated our constitution...and I get piled on and called stupid, lectured on how it was actually James Madison that wrote THE Constitution..

Any non-asshat that actually had a detailed knowledge would have totally understood my point since Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams and the Quakers had exacly jack shit impact on the part of the Constitution that detailed the branches of government and everything to do with the Bill of Rights...

A non-asshat would have realized that the Constitution was only ratified because a Bill of rights was promised at the time of the ratification...

See this was a case of me having an extremely detailed knowledge of The Constitution, and what resulted in the one we all know today...arguing with people that had a very cursory knowledge at best...


Any fool should have immediately concluded there was a common thread between the names I mentioned, any that actually knew jack shit about it would have understood the link, and therefore easily understood what I meant when I said OUR CONSTITUTION, repeatedly.

You can tell me I should have said Bill of Rights all day long...but that would have not have told me what I wanted to know...whereas calling it OUR CONSTITUTION certainly did...

It's my own personal way of pissing on the liberal elite...and I do it daily.



Any time you feel like pointing out where I have gotten owned feel free to do so...


Because I can point you to just about every fucking lib on this forum getting fucking owned in 2004.

[whottt]

Well, from what I gather from your posts, you think Obama is just a token black candidate whose only noteworthy aspect is that he's black.

I don't even think he's black...he's halfblack, raised by whites, he's got as much in common with the average American black man as I do...but what really annoys the shit out of me is that his middle name is Hussein and he's a citizen of the world type like every other international asshole on this forum.





disagree with his stance on abortion

Link? I'm pro choice. Yeah I'm not in favor of killing failed abortions..but is anyone other than Obama?

Basically it's easy to pencil in for me...I'm pretty much pro-death. Pro-death penalty, pro-abortion, pro-gun, pro-nuclear war.

IMO, humans are pretty fucked up, and we chose to be that way...and we are a fungus on this planet...I don't think we're iredeemable...but I don't see us moving that direction.

I am pretty big on animal rights and environmental protections though.







Why am I voting for Obama? I've already one over this a hundred times on the forum. First of all, I think the GOP needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt. They need to find their conservative beginnings. I also think Obama is a good leader who can hopefully inspire the nation. While it's true that he has a lot of dumb people flocking behind him, I think there's a chance he can get those people motivated into making the US an even greater nation. I disagree with a vast majority of his proposals, especially economically, but I don't think he'll follow through with his promises -- so I'm not too worried about that. I also think that if McCain wins, the backlash from the left would very likely put this country into a tailspin. The right will be mad but not nearly as mad as the left would be. Bottomline is I think Obama is the better man for the job right now, all things considered. He's certainly flawed but I'm hoping most of his flaws won't amount to much harm.


I think you're voting for him because he is tailor made fo the rap/hip hop generation and that is your genration. Plus he's mixed race and so are you. Plus you think it's a done deal that he's going to win.

Saying it's because of the Republicans is a line of BS...I mean, the Democrat Congress has been worse, and every one knew Bush was a shitty President, the problem was the Democrats were offering shittier ones.

It's like everyone was saying how shitty of an owner Bush was(me included), then he sold the team Tom Hicks...and being a shitty owner was completely redefined.

Look this change shit is nothing new...they did it in the sixties, they did it in the early nineties, this is always the call for the youth vote...Young people have a lack of life experiences and are typically naive and stupid...Pretty much anyone going after them has less then noble motives...like Hitler, and Manson.

I'm not saying you are as navie and stupid as most of the Obama suppoters are...but I've seen enough "Believe" threads to know you are still idealistic...no crime in and of itself...

But exactly what ideals does Obama represent?

Do you really think this guy is a uniter? He's not...

He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground...what he knows is how to tell people what they want to hear, and he's got the media covering all the contradictory statements he makes.







Lame. What about timvp tells you he enjoys being on the winning side? Is it having AJ's back when the whole forum hated him? Was it becoming a Spurs fan back when the Spurs played the role of the modern day Suns? Is it having the gall to say that Bush isn't the worst president ever when everyone, including Republicans, are throwing him under the bus? That's a baseless remark to throw out there without any type of proof. Hell, I've even stuck up for your woman when the in thing to do was to call her a dumb whore and a disgrace to humanity.

:td @ claiming timvp is a bandwagoner.

I don't really think you're bandwaggoning...I think you genuinely like Obama...but you wouldn't be fully supporting him if you thought he was going to get his ass kicked in this election...I've argued with you enough to know you hedge.

[timvp]

I don't even think he's black...he's halfblack, raised by whites, he's got as much in common with the average American black man as I do...Meh, pretty true.


but what really annoys the shit out of me is that his middle name is Hussein and he's a citizen of the world type like every other international asshole on this forum. Middle name smack is weak. Last I checked, we don't pick our middle names. Middle name smack is right next to spelling smack and grammar smack in the lame smack-o-meter.


Link? I'm pro choice. Yeah I'm not in favor of killing failed abortions..but is anyone other than Obama? You just answered your own question after asking for a link :lol


Basically it's easy to pencil in for me...I'm pretty much pro-death. Pro-death penalty, pro-abortion, pro-gun, pro-nuclear war.

IMO, humans are pretty fucked up, and we chose to be that way...and we are a fungus on this planet...I don't think we're iredeemable...but I don't see us moving that direction.

I am pretty big on animal rights and environmental protections though. Do you value animal life more than human life? You read like a self-species hating lefty at heart, honestly.


I think you're voting for him because he is tailor made fo the rap/hip hop generation and that is your genration. Ha, what does that even mean? You just admitted he was whiter than you. Are you tailor made for the rap/hip hop generation?


Plus he's mixed race and so are you.Lame :td

That'd be like me accusing you of voting for McCain because you are both white.


Plus you think it's a done deal that he's going to win. Yes, because timvp doesn't like to rock the boat.


Saying it's because of the Republicans is a line of BS...I mean, the Democrat Congress has been worse, and every one knew Bush was a shitty President, the problem was the Democrats were offering shittier ones. I agree with most of that. That's why I'll probably be voting straight line Republican ... except for Obama. I'm fine with Obama as president as long as he has some checks and balances. Any president without proper checks and balances is dangerous. Obama is even more dangerous than most because he has some outlandish policies that would hurt way more than help.

It's like everyone was saying how shitty of an owner Bush was(me included), then he sold the team Tom Hicks...and being a shitty owner was completely redefined.I thought Bush was a pretty damn good owner . . .


I'm not saying you are as navie and stupid as most of the Obama suppoters are...but I've seen enough "Believe" threads to know you are still idealistic...no crime in and of itself...Lame.

But exactly what ideals does Obama represent?

Do you really think this guy is a uniter? He's not...
I guess we'll find out.


He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground...what he knows is how to tell people what they want to hear, and he's got the media covering all the contradictory statements he makes. I do agree he's great at telling people what they want to hear. That's part of what could make him a successful president. Politics is 90% BS anyways.


I don't really think you're bandwaggoning...I think you genuinely like Obama...but you wouldn't be fully supporting him if you thought he was going to get his ass kicked in this election...I've argued with you enough to know you hedge.I'm more cautiously optimistic about Obama than anything. And an example of timvp hedging would be appreciated. Thanks.

[whottt]

Middle name smack is weak. Last I checked, we don't pick our middle names. Middle name smack is right next to spelling smack and grammar smack in the lame smack-o-meter.

It annoys me....I can't help it. He might as well have a middle name of puke..or Bin Laden as far as I am concerned. If it makes me simple minded I still don't like it. All biases are fair game when it comes to voting for the Pres.






Do you value animal life more than human life? You read like a self-species hating lefty at heart, honestly.


Honestly...I am a lefty in a lot of ways...or I used to be. The mindset isn't an alien one to me.

At the individual level I am not species hating...at the general level, like every time I'm stuck in traffic or waiting in a line or something..I definitely am. Basically I don't like mobs or groupings....and I don't think we're some indispensible precious resource to this planet.







Ha, what does that even mean? You just admitted he was whiter than you. Are you tailor made for the rap/hip hop generation?

Lame :td

That'd be like me accusing you of voting for McCain because you are both white.

Yes, because timvp doesn't like to rock the boat.

I could see it...you have come from a variety of cultures much like he does...

I don't particularly care if anyone votes for him because of his race...what pisses me off is getting called a racist because I'm not. That's hypochrisy.

Look...it's all fair game, there's no such thing as racism in a Presidential election....people should and do have the right to discriminate on any grounds they see fit...as the job is a privilege, not a right.

People voting for Obama because of his race are the people I understand...I can understand voting for him because of his race, even if I think it's a stupid reason......I can't understand voting for him for any other reason.

Especially if that reason is that he makes sense...because he absolutely does not.

Furthermore...if I was minority I'd probably feel similarly.

However since I'm not...and have had the chance to vote my race for my entire life...it's really not that great of a deal. Ask any white person...






I agree with most of that. That's why I'll probably be voting straight line Republican ... except for Obama. I'm fine with Obama as president as long as he has some checks and balances.

If he's elected he's not going to have any checks and balances...he's going to have the most liberal congress ever and a complicit media...and he's going to have the race card.







I thought Bush was a pretty damn good owner . . .

He more focused on turning a buck than he was building a good winner...but at least he knew how to build a winner to turn a profit, which is more than Hicks understood...and most people would tell you he is much smarter than Bush...after all, he's richer.

[ElNono]

What the fuck have I missed on dude?
You know...I come to this forum infested with liberal inbreeding...I play it as easily as Tim Duncan plays Kenyon Martin...but one thing I don't do is miss.
I mean what have I fucking missed on?
I get told this shit all the time by people I have totally lapped...
Like on the fucking Constitutional thing a few weeks ago...
I listed Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, and the Quakers and their impact on the foundation of OUR Constitution, I repeated stated our constitution...and I get piled on and called stupid, lectured on how it was actually James Madison that wrote THE Constitution..
Any non-asshat that actually had a detailed knowledge would have totally understood my point since Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams and the Quakers had exacly jack shit impact on the part of the Constitution that detailed the branches of government and everything to do with the Bill of Rights...
A non-asshat would have realized that the Constitution was only ratified because a Bill of rights was promised at the time of the ratification...
See this was a case of me having an extremely detailed knowledge of The Constitution, and what resulted in the one we all know today...arguing with people that had a very cursory knowledge at best...
Any fool should have immediately concluded there was a common thread between the names I mentioned, any that actually knew jack shit about it would have understood the link, and therefore easily understood what I meant when I said OUR CONSTITUTION, repeatedly.
You can tell me I should have said Bill of Rights all day long...but that would have not have told me what I wanted to know...whereas calling it OUR CONSTITUTION certainly did...
It's my own personal way of pissing on the liberal elite...and I do it daily.
Any time you feel like pointing out where I have gotten owned feel free to do so...
Because I can point you to just about every fucking lib on this forum getting fucking owned in 2004.

LOL, how weak are you? You still babbling about a thread you got called out on almost a month ago. You still can't get me out of your system, even if I owned your ass many months ago. Let it go.
You're just a mentally weak ass bitter fool.

[Shastafarian]

I don't even think he's black...he's halfblack, raised by whites, he's got as much in common with the average American black man as I do.

You're paternal relatives are black? Who knew!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yes...because you hate America, view it as a threat, and a country whose servives are no longer needed, and you now want to see it as fucked up as your country is.

:lol yeah, that's what I'm after. Turning the US into Argentina :lmao Give me a break whottt. I have a proposition. Go ahead and find any post of mine in the nearly 4 years I've been posting here that states or even implies that I hate America. Do that and I'll come clean :lol

In fact, now that I think about it, you're right! I hate America! I hate Americans so much I spent 8 of my formation years practically living as one. I hate America so much, my english is better than my spanish. I hate America so much, I spend a large portion of my day debating the virtues of the American culture with people that apparently have enough invested on the matter to talk about "hating it" without actually knowing about it or even understanding it.

I'm not rooting for Obama because I think the US is a country whose services are no longer needed, I'm rooting for him because I think now is when they're needed the most!


To me Obama = a guys whose primary loyalties are not with the United States and who does not view it as a force for good in the world.

This means he is one of those guys that bitches about the Spurs if they don't win the title every year...a cynic. I'm geniunely curious about what exactly makes you feel Obama is so un-american... It can't possibly be his middle name. From every speech and every interview I've seen (and I've seen them all) Obama strikes me as someone with genuine concerns about the American people. I'm not crazy about many of his policies mind you, but I think he's got the right idea when it comes to foreign policy. Plus, I genuinely believe his a man of principle. An educated man... and I would vote him for that if nothing else.


I hate these guys...I wish they'd fuck off and die and stop spreading their misery...or go live in one of those fucked up countries they think is so great instead of trying to turn this one into one of them. You do hate a lot of people, I'll give you that


I'll give you the tame version and just call it inferiority...justified inferiority.

True you didn't just choose to not be born an American...but you did choose to be an anti-American. You think I feel inferior? To whom? you?

I'm acutely aware about my country's problems, due primarily to the fact I suffer them every god damn day. I'm not under any delusion that Argentina is a world power or is ever going to become one, if that is what you think.

I think my country's government is run by a bunch of thugs, more interested in lining their own pockets than providing any sort of relief for their people. We don't have statesmen in my country, we have power hungry politicians.

Yeah, that's what I want, to turn the U.S. into us :rolleyes

I don't have any qualms about acknowledging that our overall approach to running a country is inferior to America's, primarily because I think its inferior to most countries really. I don't however, feel personally inferior to anyone, especially a sad, little person like yourself.

In other words, I'm not anti-america, I'm anti-whottt :lol


Since my definition of leftist includes people who hate America(including non-Americans)...yes..from my POV you are.

I know you dislike Che Guevera...but that doesn't mean you aren't a leftist. In this regard, you're right. Disliking Che Guevara does not mean I'm not a leftist.

I'm not a leftist because I lean right on most issues with regards to the economy and spread of government, and I dislike Che Guevara because he was an amoral piece of shit puppet, who was more interested in living the good life rather than promoting any selfless ideological agenda the left would like you to believe. Shit, I could write a whole fucking book on the things I dislike about "El CHE", so lets just leave it at that.


You're typical of every international wannabe intellectual who fancies himself an expert on my country based on the number of Bruckheimer films he's seen..and people with your political insights are a dime a dozen...the only time you're entertaining or a worrthwhile read is when you are talking about your country.
I don't fancy myself an expert on anything (although its pretty rich that you're the one accusing me of this :lol). I know a thing or two about America and just like any person in this forum, I enjoy an opinionated debate. You're the one that chooses to disqualify any argument I make on the basis that I'm not American. That, my friend, is a cop out if there ever was one.


Other than that you bore me and I can get better insight from a boutons post.Trust me, its pretty damn obvious where you get your "insight" :rolleyes

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Anyone else notice how tame whottt becomes when arguing with timvp?

I propose that we use LJ as the middle man whenever we want to address whottt. Maybe then he'll stop trying to claw his way out of a discussion with accusations of "anti-americanism".

What say you?

[MannyIsGod]

Anyone else notice how tame whottt becomes when arguing with timvp?

I propose that we use LJ as the middle man whenever we want to address whottt. Maybe then he'll stop trying to claw his way out of a discussion with accusations of "anti-americanism".

What say you?

Fuck that. I"ll take all of Whottt's bullshit firsthand for now because

1) I won't be online much this weekend to have to read it
2) on November 5th I'm going to blow my wad all over his face because he's made so many asinine predictions.

[RandomGuy]

Now if McCain actually wins the election, whottt is going to have bragging rights for all eternity :lmao

Man, what a thought. Thanks a lot asshole, now I won't be able to sleep for the next week. :grim:

I can think of a very long list of unpleasant things that I would rather have done to me than to suffer whottt if he was right about that.

[ChumpDumper]

It's ok guys, I said McCain will win too.

[whottt]

Anyone else notice how tame whottt becomes when arguing with timvp?

I propose that we use LJ as the middle man whenever we want to address whottt. Maybe then he'll stop trying to claw his way out of a discussion with accusations of "anti-americanism".

What say you?


#1. It's timvp's site...if I talk too much shit he'll simply ban me, I'm not stupid...Since he and Kori pretty much let me voice my opinion to the degree I want, and in fact have a times entrusted me with looking after the site in their absence I see no reason to piss them off and betray that trust. That'd be stupid and dishonorable. And I like this website.

#2. I actually have gone after timvp countless times, and he's extremely difficult to provoke...I think I got him to say ass once a couple of years ago.

I also lead the witchunt against his favorite player...while I know that pissed him off, he kept it under control to an amazing degree and never abused his power to silence the voice of AJ dissent. :tu

He's arguably the most difficult poster to provoke an emotional reaction out of on this entire website...and I'm not saying that because he's the Admin. He has legitimate stake to that claim.

You OTOH are one of the easiest...I can do it to you without even thinking about it. All I have to do is post and you'll a vaginal discharge.

[JoeChalupa]

Pro-Vote!!!

[whottt]

Man, what a thought. Thanks a lot asshole, now I won't be able to sleep for the next week. :grim:

I can think of a very long list of unpleasant things that I would rather have done to me than to suffer whottt if he was right about that.


Eh...weren't you here during the last election?

You guys were wrong then too, I left as soon as it was over...I'm just here as a reg for the election.


It's not like you guys are going to shut the fuck up if you lose or anything...I already know that.

As for my predictions...they won't all be right...but some of them are going to be, and if anyone of them is right it bodes badly for Obama.

To be honest..I have some doubt but it's not intuitive, my intuitiion is absolutely certain of a McCain win...the doubt is non-intuitive and it's because the last time I predicted a landslide was Gore over Bush.

[JoeChalupa]

My intuition is that you are wrong.