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clambake
10-28-2008, 02:49 PM
joe the plumber says that obama win would be the death of israel. :lol

Shastafarian
10-28-2008, 02:51 PM
WTF? At the end Shep Smith clarified by saying Obama has made it clear Israel will always be a friend etc and then goes, "Man that other stuff, just scary". What were they talking about?

clambake
10-28-2008, 02:54 PM
shepperd smith thinks joe is a lunatic. shep was defending obama.

mccain said he didn't agree with joe.

how many of those guys are going to carve "B"s on their faces?

hater
10-28-2008, 02:55 PM
:lmao :lmao

Anti.Hero
10-28-2008, 02:59 PM
LA Times

Jew Bashing

Rashid Khalidi

Drink up!

clambake
10-28-2008, 03:01 PM
wait till you hear "joe's" telephone interview with shep.

damn. mccain can't catch a break.

this will be getting airtime.

Shastafarian
10-28-2008, 03:02 PM
LA Times

Jew Bashing

Rashid Khalidi

Drink up!

What the fuck are you babbling about?

DaDakota
10-28-2008, 03:03 PM
Screw Israel fix the USA first.

DD

2centsworth
10-28-2008, 03:04 PM
I'm sure this is an accurate account.

clambake
10-28-2008, 03:04 PM
What the fuck are you babbling about?

he's the protector of the lunatic fringe.

clambake
10-28-2008, 03:05 PM
I'm sure this is an accurate account.

:lmao trust me, you don't want to hear this. :lmao

Tully365
10-28-2008, 03:05 PM
joe the plumber says that obama win would be the death of israel. :lol

Meanwhile at 547 S. Wilson Avenue, a toilet has been running non-stop for 48 hours. O, the sad waste of water that Joe has chosen to turn his back on!

JoeChalupa
10-28-2008, 03:05 PM
yeah, I saw this. Kudos to Shepperd for stating clearly that Obama has said that he fully supports Israel. :tu

clambake
10-28-2008, 03:07 PM
this is why i watch fox.

their shit is gold, baby!

sook
10-28-2008, 04:08 PM
Screw Israel fix the USA first.

DD

exactly what i was thinking...today my ignorant teacher was talking about how iran is the root of all evil and how they wanted to wipe "us" off the map...

Do we really care about Israel more than the U.S?

sook
10-28-2008, 04:09 PM
why is joe getting so much publicity?

sook
10-28-2008, 04:10 PM
yeah, I saw this. Kudos to Shepperd for stating clearly that Obama has said that he fully supports Israel. :tu

the day and age that a president can go about without saying he masturbates to israel is long gone.

Shastafarian
10-28-2008, 04:10 PM
btw...why is joe getting so much publicity? the guy seems like a d-bag

Because McCain said "Joe the Plumber" about 15 times during the last debate.

sook
10-28-2008, 04:11 PM
Because McCain said "Joe the Plumber" about 15 times during the last debate.

it was getting annoying too, mccain sounds desperate as hell now that he says it in just about every speech

boutons_
10-28-2008, 04:14 PM
"mccain sounds desperate as hell"

McNasty is lost as hell.

JoeChalupa
10-28-2008, 04:16 PM
Joe the Plumber is just getting publicity for when he becomes Joe the Candidate.

Ocotillo
10-28-2008, 04:54 PM
Joe the Plumber is just getting publicity for when he becomes Joe the Candidate.

:lol:lol:lol Palin's 2012 running mate.

Ocotillo
10-28-2008, 04:57 PM
http://www.palinaspresident.us/

cool hand
10-28-2008, 05:05 PM
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ChumpDumper
10-28-2008, 05:14 PM
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Why is this guy still getting airtime?

He seriously sounds like a poster here.

Smith: Joe, do you know Barack Obama's positions on Israel?

Joe: Ah...Now listen, I know you really want to get some answers on this one. I'm just not gonna help you out here, Shepard.

cool hand
10-28-2008, 05:18 PM
dude is a real dumbfuck.

benefactor
10-28-2008, 05:20 PM
Israel can handle themselves. Anyone who thinks that Israel does not have the military power to wipe any one of those Arab countries off the map is sorely mistaken.

cool hand
10-28-2008, 05:21 PM
Sheppard showing an independent streak.....nice.

ChumpDumper
10-28-2008, 05:21 PM
Smith was fucking hilarious at the end. Summed up the entire McCain campaign with that sigh.

Shastafarian
10-28-2008, 05:25 PM
Smith was fucking hilarious at the end. Summed up the entire McCain campaign with that sigh.

Unexpected and certainly welcome from FoxNews. I enjoyed that 5 minute dodge the question from good ole Joe the Plumber. "I urge people to go out and research what these candidates say". Clearly he had no idea what Obama's stance is on Israel.

ChumpDumper
10-28-2008, 05:28 PM
Smith earned my respect for his Katrina coverage. He doesn't have the suspension of disbelief that most at Fox have. It will be interesting to see if there is any fallout.

clambake
10-28-2008, 05:47 PM
Smith earned my respect for his Katrina coverage. He doesn't have the suspension of disbelief that most at Fox have. It will be interesting to see if there is any fallout.

you're talking about fox's fallout with smith, right?

ChumpDumper
10-28-2008, 05:52 PM
you're talking about fox's fallout with smith, right?Right, and with Joe as well now that I think about it.

Shastafarian
10-28-2008, 05:53 PM
Right, and with Joe as well now that I think about it.

I wonder if Shep is gonna have a show next week. I hear John "I'm a HUGE Racist" Gibson is looking to come back.

ChumpDumper
10-28-2008, 05:58 PM
He could easily get a job at the other networks. His show is pretty much straight news. That said, I don't think he's going anywhere.

Shastafarian
10-28-2008, 06:01 PM
He could easily get a job at the other networks. His show is pretty much straight news. That said, I don't think he's going anywhere.

Yeah I know. I know nothing will happen that the public will be aware of with regard to Smith. But I doubt any of his producers are happy right now.

clambake
10-28-2008, 06:03 PM
they have to keep him. without him it's just the Geritol news.

Tully365
10-28-2008, 06:04 PM
Joe the plumber announced yesterday that he prefers polypropylene plastic pipe to copper, so he has lost all credibility to me.

Cant_Be_Faded
10-28-2008, 07:27 PM
I guess we can only hope.

ploto
10-28-2008, 08:00 PM
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/daily-show-who-f-guy

SAtoDallas
10-28-2008, 08:12 PM
What the fuck are you babbling about?

He's talking about the video the LA Times is holding but not releasing that shows Obama at a function for Khalidi and he's bashing Israel and Jews.

sook
10-28-2008, 08:14 PM
mccain must have had gay sex with this dude for him to give him so much publicity, b.c this guy is just as dumb as palin

possessed
10-28-2008, 08:19 PM
Joe the plumber announced yesterday that he prefers polypropylene plastic pipe to copper, so he has lost all credibility to me.

Copper plumbing is outdated. Showing your conservative side?

ploto
10-28-2008, 09:26 PM
He also said he is voting for McCain because he wants to vote for a "Real American." I am so sick of this crap. What makes Obama not a real American?

ElNono
10-28-2008, 09:30 PM
He also said he is voting for McCain because he wants to vote for a "Real American." I am so sick of this crap. What makes Obama not a real American?

He's black...

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 02:58 AM
And Muslim...

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 06:06 AM
And a Terrorist...

timvp
10-29-2008, 06:49 AM
And gay.......

Findog
10-29-2008, 07:21 AM
And a Marxist...

cool hand
10-29-2008, 07:26 AM
and a redistributionist.....


is there is even such a word.

cool hand
10-29-2008, 07:27 AM
Unconstitutionalist.....

JoeChalupa
10-29-2008, 08:08 AM
and too good looking.

cool hand
10-29-2008, 08:16 AM
and an elitest.......

cool hand
10-29-2008, 08:17 AM
hey, have you guys noticed that fixed news has gone completely bonkers.....www.foxnews.com. they are obsessed with saying ONLY negative shit about Obama and positive shit about Mccain......terrible.

If the Fairness Doctrine comes back, its their own fucking fault.

SnakeBoy
10-29-2008, 10:21 AM
And he's the antichrist.

Which is the same as being anti american since america is Jesus favorite country.

clambake
10-29-2008, 10:25 AM
don't forget, per whottt: "he's a cocksucker"

implacable44
10-29-2008, 10:49 AM
hey, have you guys noticed that fixed news has gone completely bonkers.....www.foxnews.com. they are obsessed with saying ONLY negative shit about Obama and positive shit about Mccain......terrible.

If the Fairness Doctrine comes back, its their own fucking fault.

yeah because CBS, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and NBC are all fair and have evenly distributed and balanced reporting. Time Magazine , The NY and LA Times both fair and balanced. YEah it is all Foxnews; fault if the fairness doctrine comes back.. You nailed that one.

ElNono
10-29-2008, 10:55 AM
yeah because CBS, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and NBC are all fair and have evenly distributed and balanced reporting. Time Magazine , The NY and LA Times both fair and balanced. YEah it is all Foxnews; fault if the fairness doctrine comes back.. You nailed that one.

The media doesn't need to discredit McCain. Palin will gladly do it for them.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 10:59 AM
The media doesn't need to discredit McCain. Palin will gladly do it for them.

and yet they persist still in attacking him and praising the messiah -- and again Biden serves the same purpose for that guy that doesn't look like any of the other Presidents...

Sigmund
10-29-2008, 11:08 AM
and yet they persist still in attacking him and praising the messiah -- and again Biden serves the same purpose for that guy that doesn't look like any of the other Presidents...

How does "that guy" make you feel?

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 11:12 AM
Tell us what there is to cover in the McCain campaign besides:

1) What he says about Obama.

2) What Palin says about Obama.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 11:22 AM
Well the media seems to cover a lot... his age .. her inexperience. trooper gate... her wardrobe..

then with Obama we should be covering Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, khalidi all those great character types he associates himself with. breaking campaign finance promises - these untraceable credt card donations...

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 11:28 AM
Well the media seems to cover a lot... his age .. her inexperience. trooper gate... her wardrobe..Are these not legitimate issues?


then with Obama we should be covering Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, khalidi all those great character types he associates himself with. breaking campaign finance promises - these untraceable credt card donations...They have been covered as completely as they can be. Every story has been in the news several times. The only problem is there isn't as much to each story as you want there to be. It became old news, then no news. Too bad this is all you got.

Except maybe Joe the Plumber.

And Glenn Beck.

cool hand
10-29-2008, 11:34 AM
...........and what they really want to say is.......................BLACK.

clambake
10-29-2008, 11:34 AM
Well the media seems to cover a lot... his age ..
duh

her inexperience.
double duh

trooper gate..
nobody cares about that.

. her wardrobe..
your camp is to blame for that.

then with Obama we should be covering Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, khalidi all those great character types he associates himself with.
knock yourself out on this.....mccain is tied to khalidi.

breaking campaign finance promises
:lmao @ the old guy that got outsmarted.

- these untraceable credt card donations...
there's not one detective among you?

implacable44
10-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Are these not legitimate issues?

They have been covered as completely as they can be. Every story has been in the news several times. The only problem is there isn't as much to each story as you want there to be. It became old news, then no news. Too bad this is all you got.

Except maybe Joe the Plumber.

And Glenn Beck.

How have they been covered? They have been covered on Foxnews, Drudge and that AM talk Radio. Other than that -- you see nothing. Jeremiah Wright only got as much play as he did because of the Clinton machine and when it all came out. You hear nothing of Khalidi and the LA Times won't release the video. You hear nothing of his comments about how wrong the consitution is or unjust it might be in his opinion. None of that stuff is covered in the mainstream and thus the majority of the country never hears it.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 11:38 AM
...........and what they really want to say is.......................BLACK.

you mean want Obama wants to say .. over and over and over and over -- if you don't vote for Obama - you must be a racist. If it doesn't fit - you must acquit.

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 11:44 AM
How have they been covered? They have been covered on Foxnews, Drudge and that AM talk RadioThey have been covered on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, every major newspaper and wire service, NPR, PBS. They just presented what they found out and that was that. Too bad for you the stories just didn't have legs.


Other than that -- you see nothing. Jeremiah Wright only got as much play as he did because of the Clinton machine and when it all came out. You hear nothing of Khalidi and the LA Times won't release the video. You hear nothing of his comments about how wrong the consitution is or unjust it might be in his opinion. None of that stuff is covered in the mainstream and thus the majority of the country never hears it.Actually, I've heard about all of this in the mainstream media. Again, there just isn't much of anything to them. No amount of wishing on your part is going to make it so.

So be accurate and say you want the mainstream media to make a really big deal out of those issues just like Drudge and AM talk radio do and repeat the same conjecture over and over again to make it look like news.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 12:02 PM
They have been covered on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, every major newspaper and wire service, NPR, PBS. They just presented what they found out and that was that. Too bad for you the stories just didn't have legs.

Actually, I've heard about all of this in the mainstream media. Again, there just isn't much of anything to them. No amount of wishing on your part is going to make it so.

So be accurate and say you want the mainstream media to make a really big deal out of those issues just like Drudge and AM talk radio do and repeat the same conjecture over and over again to make it look like news.

Dung - that is how you feel because it benefits you. You don''t think it is news that Obama attended a church preaching black liberation theology and hate the KKKA for 20+ years ? .. that is your opinion. You don't think it is relevant that Obama was close friends with William Ayers. ( note that his favorite line is well thats not the jeremiah wright I knew.or the William Ayers I knew...) I do think it is relevant. I find it evry relevant because Obama has no record so I have to know who he is and who he associates with. He finds the constitution unjust and doesn't like it. I want to see the video -- if you think it doesn't have legs - and the mainstream media must agree - why not release the video ? Acorn ? There is plenty to them. Books like Liberal Fascism, The Forgotten Man, The Audacity of Deceit; people like Stanley Kurtz.

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 12:11 PM
]Dung - that is how you feel because it benefits you. You don''t think it is news that Obama attended a church preaching black liberation theology and hate the KKKA for 20+ years ?Douche, it was news when it first came out. There's nothing more to it.


You don't think it is relevant that Obama was close friends with William Ayers.Douche, that has never been proven by anyone. Your lying about it doesn't make it so.


I do think it is relevant.Because you are a douche.


I find it evry relevant because Obama has no recordOnly a douche would think he has no record.


He finds the constitution unjust and doesn't like it.Only a douche who pretends to be Glenn Beck would say that.


I want to see the video -- if you think it doesn't have legs - and the mainstream media must agree - why not release the video So the actions of the press depend solely on the whims of a douche? Life doesn't work that way.


Acorn ? There is plenty to them.Yes, I agree that fraudulent voter registrations are a problem. ACORN agrees, that's why they flag the questionable registration forms for election officials to review. I know a douche like you wouldn't know that because it's in the mainstream media.


Books like Liberal Fascism, The Forgotten Man, The Audacity of DeceitSo you want the mainstream media to recite entire right wing books in their newscasts. How douchey of you.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 12:20 PM
Douche, it was news when it first came out. There's nothing more to it.

Douche, that has never been proven by anyone. Your lying about it doesn't make it so.

Because you are a douche.

Only a douche would think he has no record.

Only a douche who pretends to be Glenn Beck would say that.

So the actions of the press depend solely on the whims of a douche? Life doesn't work that way.

Yes, I agree that fraudulent voter registrations are a problem. ACORN agrees, that's why they flag the questionable registration forms for election officials to review. I know a douche like you wouldn't know that because it's in the mainstream media.

So you want the mainstream media to recite entire right wing books in their newscasts. How douchey of you.

Douche ? that is your phrase of the day ? Douche ? why not used tampon ? toilet paper ? maxi pad ?

All of it is relevant.

what is his record ? His association with William Ayers has been proven - William Ayers is in this Kahlidi video with Nobama (allegedly). Voting for Obama will not make you cool Dung - nor will it make you hip or accepted by the brothers -- none of that will happen. you will still be just plain old Dung with 30,000 posts on spurstalk.com - yet not able to play a lick of bball yourself. At the end of the day you will still just be sorry -lame tired old Dungdrinker or whatever other alias you use in your virtual life.

clambake
10-29-2008, 12:24 PM
His association with William Ayers has been proven
:lmao

- William Ayers is in this Kahlidi video with Nobama (allegedly).
i'd like to know why mccain gave khalidi half a million dollars, too.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 12:30 PM
McCain didn't -- he gave a grant to a foundation that Khalidi was a part of in 1998 as a part of the IRI

clambake
10-29-2008, 12:32 PM
McCain didn't -- he gave a grant to a foundation that Khalidi was a part of in 1998 as a part of the IRI

thats what i said. he gave him half a million dollars.

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 12:32 PM
Douche ? that is your phrase of the day ? Douche ? why not used tampon ? toilet paper ? maxi pad ?They all fit. Would you like me to mix them up a bit?


All of it is relevant.Just not as relevant as you want it to be. All of it was reported. There simply isn't anything more to these stories.


what is his record ?He has been in public office for some time now. That makes for quite a public record. If you are too stupid to realize that, it's not my problem.


His association with William Ayers has been provenYou said close friendship. You lied. This is why you are a douche.


William Ayers is in this Kahlidi video with Nobama (allegedly).Wow, "Nobama" -- what does that even mean? Very used tampon of you. "Allegedly" -- wow, that's really amazing. Really a burning issue for our times.


Voting for Obama will not make you cool Dung - nor will it make you hip or accepted by the brothers -- none of that will happen.That's great because these have never been the criteria I use for voting.


you will still be just plain old Dung with 30,000 posts on spurstalk.com - yet not able to play a lick of bball yourself. At the end of the day you will still just be sorry -lame tired old Dungdrinker or whatever other alias you use in your virtual life.:lol Really got to you, didn't I?

implacable44
10-29-2008, 12:37 PM
They all fit. Would you like me to mix them up a bit?

Just not as relevant as you want it to be. All of it was reported. There simply isn't anything more to these stories.

He has been in public office for some time now. That makes for quite a public record. If you are too stupid to realize that, it's not my problem.

You said close friendship. You lied. This is why you are a douche.

Wow, "Nobama" -- what does that even mean? Very used tampon of you. "Allegedly" -- wow, that's really amazing. Really a burning issue for our times.

That's great because these have never been the criteria I use for voting.

:lol Really got to you, didn't I?


No -- you are just Dung.

he has been in office for "some time" now - then what is his record ? How much of that corruption in Chicago did he fix ? How about that Sarkozy fellow or those Fannie Mae ties ?

It is relevant -- but not for now because the media who love the messiah don't want it to be. Same reason that Stevens was convicted and Charlie Rangel roams the earth a free man.

clambake
10-29-2008, 12:40 PM
after all of mccains experience, he gave khalidi half a million dollars.

LnGrrrR
10-29-2008, 12:42 PM
I want to know why Obama hasn't handed out ponies to everyone yet! WAHHHH!!

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 12:44 PM
No -- you are just Dung.And you're a douche :toast


he has been in office for "some time" now - then what is his record ?It's PUBLIC RECORD. Meaning you can look it up. Have you looked it up?


It is relevant -- but not for now because the media who love the messiah don't want it to be.There has been nothing new in any of these stories, even after much investigation conservatives. The right wing has been pumping dry wells for months. They've been trying, but there is simply no there there. So, they just repeat the same charges over and over and over and over again, and it just becomes background noise. Too bad for you


Same reason that Stevens was convicted and Charlie Rangel roams the earth a free man.So you now say the media controls the US justice system.

You are insane.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 12:45 PM
And you're a douche :toast

It's PUBLIC RECORD. Meaning you can look it up. Have you looked it up?

There has been nothing new in any of these stories, even after much investigation conservatives. The right wing has been pumping dry wells for months. They've been trying, but there is simply no there there. So, they just repeat the same charges over and over and over and over again, and it just becomes background noise. Too bad for you

So you now say the media controls the US justice system.

You are insane.


I know it is public -- I did look it up -- it says , "present"

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 12:46 PM
I know it is public -- I did look it up -- it says , "present"Ah, so you didn't look it up at all. You read a blog.

Classic.

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 01:16 PM
after all of mccains experience, he gave khalidi half a million dollars.

I'm gonna highlight this for a certain person who has trouble understanding.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 02:44 PM
no he didnt .. the IRI gave an organization that Khalidi was a part of half a million dollars and it was atually $498K and some change

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 03:04 PM
no he didnt .. the IRI gave an organization that Khalidi was a part of half a million dollars and it was atually $498K and some change

McCain was CHAIRMAN of the IRI. The IRI gave a group co-founded by Khalidi almost half a million dollars.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 03:05 PM
McCain was CHAIRMAN of the IRI. The IRI gave a group co-founded by Khalidi almost half a million dollars.

yes that is correct - exactly what I said twenty posts ago

clambake
10-29-2008, 03:07 PM
i'm going to use a republican tactic........

"mccain gave khalidi half a million dollars to kill jews".

JoeChalupa
10-29-2008, 03:07 PM
McCain is on Larry King tonight so I'll see what he has to say.

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 03:10 PM
yes that is correct - exactly what I said twenty posts ago

So you think McCain had no say in where the money was given. Gotcha.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 03:14 PM
no i didnt say that -- you said mccain gave khalidi a half a million dollars. -- when actually the IRI - of which McCain was chair gave an organization of which Khalidi was a part of $498K and some change

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 03:18 PM
McCain's organization gave Khalidi's organization half a million dollars.

Why isn't the mainstream media reporting this 24 hours nonstop?

They are biased in favor of McCain!

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 03:18 PM
no i didnt say that -- you said mccain gave khalidi a half a million dollars. -- when actually the IRI - of which McCain was chair gave an organization of which Khalidi was a part of $498K and some change

I didn't say McCain gave him half a million dollars. I'm saying McCain was the chairman of an organization that thought Khalidi's organization deserved half a million dollars. I'm saying McCain is an enormous hypocrite because if he thought Khalidi was such a bad guy then he could've stopped that payment back when it was allocated.

clambake
10-29-2008, 03:18 PM
no i didnt say that -- you said mccain gave khalidi a half a million dollars. -- when actually the IRI - of which McCain was chair gave an organization of which Khalidi was a part of $498K and some change

thats what i said. mccain gave khalidi half a million dollars.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 03:23 PM
I didn't say McCain gave him half a million dollars. I'm saying McCain was the chairman of an organization that thought Khalidi's organization deserved half a million dollars. I'm saying McCain is an enormous hypocrite because if he thought Khalidi was such a bad guy then he could've stopped that payment back when it was allocated.

and it was in 1998

JoeChalupa
10-29-2008, 03:24 PM
and it was in 1998

Yeah, and McCain was only 63 at the time.

clambake
10-29-2008, 03:27 PM
so, mccain and saddam paid people to kill jews?

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 03:28 PM
and it was in 1998

Wait...I thought Obama being on a board with Ayers was relevant????? I guess not since it was sooooooooooo long ago. God I hate hypocrites.

implacable44
10-29-2008, 03:34 PM
Wait...I thought Obama being on a board with Ayers was relevant????? I guess not since it was sooooooooooo long ago. God I hate hypocrites.

Obama launched his political career from Ayers house.

but I never said it was irrelevant being from 1998 -- I just added that to the facts of the story.

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 03:35 PM
Obama launched his political career from Ayers house.

but I never said it was irrelevant being from 1998 -- I just added that to the facts of the story.Why did you feel that detail was important?

implacable44
10-29-2008, 03:36 PM
Why isn't it important ?

ChumpDumper
10-29-2008, 03:39 PM
Why isn't it important ?I didn't post it. Tell us why you posted it.

Shastafarian
10-29-2008, 03:41 PM
Obama launched his political career from Ayers house.


That's a nice talking point. Too bad it's impossible to say whether it's true or not.

*Obama's formal kick-off to announce his run for state senate was at the Hyde Park Ramada Inn on Sept. 19, 1995. Obama was introduced by [Democratic Sen. Alice] Palmer in a room filled with supporters at the Ramada, fronting Lake Michigan on South Lake Shore Drive, a stroll from the Museum of Science and Industry.

*The only question is the date. Nobody can be sure which event occurred first: The Coffee at Ayers', or the announcement at the Ramada.


but I never said it was irrelevant being from 1998 -- I just added that to the facts of the story.

:lol whatever you say

ploto
10-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Yeah, and McCain was only 63 at the time.

:lol