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djohn14
10-28-2008, 10:02 PM
November 5th live on Versus

http://i38.tinypic.com/j67wiu.jpg

Televised Card:

WEC Featherweight Title
-Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown

WEC Middleweight Title (Last WEC Middleweight Title fight ever)
-Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen

-Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia-IDK why

-Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone

-Nissen Osterneck vs. Jake Rosholt

Prelim Card:

-Yoshiro Maeda vs. Rani Yayha

-Alex Schoenauer vs. Steve Steinbeiss

-Aaron Simpson vs. David Avellan

-Jose Aldo vs. Jonathan Brookins

-Danny Castillo vs. Ed Ratcliff

Evan
10-28-2008, 10:04 PM
*slams gavel*

This thread is not recognized until a fight poster is shown.

*calls security*

djohn14
10-28-2008, 10:05 PM
*slams gavel*

This thread is not recognized until a fight poster is shown.

*calls security*

Yep, working on that...Boom Touchdown!

Evan
10-28-2008, 10:09 PM
*waves off security*
*keeps an eye on djohn14*

Everyone pay extremely close attention to Jake Rosholt. He and his brother are incredible. Serious ground N pound skill.

tzjO_ZeYqfs

SAtown
10-28-2008, 10:17 PM
Hey Evan, totally off topic, but the local ESPN radio show host was talking about you on the radio tonight. They were having some contest on the air, and one of the callers name was Evan, he then asked if he posted on a "message board" called Spurstalk, and the caller said no. He then said, "Good, I wouldn't let him win anything on this show because he always give me a hard time on ST"

Maybe it's another Evan poster, but you came to mind

Evan
10-28-2008, 10:20 PM
Hey Evan, totally off topic, but the local ESPN radio show host was talking about you on the radio tonight. They were having some contest on the air, and one of the callers name was Evan, he then asked if he posted on a "message board" called Spurstalk, and the caller said no. He then said, "Good, I wouldn't let him win anything on this show because he always give me a hard time on ST"

Maybe it's another Evan poster, but you came to mind

bwaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahahahah

Was it Chris Duel?

SAtown
10-28-2008, 10:21 PM
Yeah it was :lol

Evan
10-28-2008, 10:26 PM
Oh man....too funny.

See here's the deal...I have never heard that guys show...not for 1 second. I live in Dallas...but I made fun of his show once...lightly...and he exploded on me. Just got violent. The end result was 6 months of me poking a stick at him whenever he popped up to make him mad again. Which was easy. Finally he sent me this real angry PM (wish I had kept it) and after a few more weeks I had to call a truce because I could tell I was really getting to him.

Guys like that in radio fascinate me...they make a living making fun of people and can't take it back at all.

I had completely forgotten about him and we only called a truce like 2 months ago...amusing to see I made a lasting impression.

Hey did that caller win? Maybe its time to revisit my stick poking....

SAtown
10-28-2008, 10:32 PM
:lol funny story

Nah he didn't win, but he sounded uneasy when he was asking if it was you.

Anyways, didn't mean to hijack the thread

Evan
10-28-2008, 10:35 PM
:lol funny story

Nah he didn't win, but he sounded uneasy when he was asking if it was you.

Anyways, didn't mean to hijack the thread

No man its cool. Very interesting. Thanks for telling me.

I always felt weird about it because he would get so mad at me but I couldn't stop poking him, however lightly.

This entire forum is so fascinating....:toast

desflood
10-28-2008, 10:37 PM
Hey Evan, totally off topic, but the local ESPN radio show host was talking about you on the radio tonight. They were having some contest on the air, and one of the callers name was Evan, he then asked if he posted on a "message board" called Spurstalk, and the caller said no. He then said, "Good, I wouldn't let him win anything on this show because he always give me a hard time on ST"

Maybe it's another Evan poster, but you came to mind
:lol Excellent story.

Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone

LEONARD
10-29-2008, 08:45 AM
:lol :lol :lol :lol

LEONARD
10-29-2008, 11:22 AM
Tracy Lee spent the day with Faber...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/words/gdetail.php?id=89

djohn14
10-30-2008, 07:49 PM
Carmelo Marrero to replace Alex Schoenauer.

djohn14
11-01-2008, 04:07 PM
Rafael Dias to replace Ed Ratcliff.

Evan
11-01-2008, 10:43 PM
I still can't figure out why Chris Duel doesn't like me.

Evan
11-03-2008, 09:09 AM
updated

WEC 36: NOVEMBER 5, 2008 IN HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA
venue: Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino

Main Card Bouts:
-Urijah Faber (#1 Featherweight in the World)* vs. Mike Brown (#6 Featherweight in the World)*
-Paulo Filho (#3 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Chael Sonnen
-Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia

Preliminary Bouts:
-Yoshiro Maeda vs. Rani Yahya
-Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone
-Jose Aldo vs. Jonathan Brookins
-Carmelo Marrero vs. Steve Steinbeiss
-Danny Castillo vs. Rafael Dias
-Jake Rosholt vs. Nissen Osterneck
-Johny Hendricks vs. Alex Serdyukov
-David Avellan vs. Aaron Simpson

Main card airs live on Versus in the United States

desflood
11-03-2008, 10:00 AM
Razor Rob is main-card worthy. IMHO, of course.

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 10:16 AM
Are we going to use this on the predictions thread?

Evan
11-03-2008, 10:17 AM
Razor Rob is main-card worthy. IMHO, of course.

I agree...but its only 2 hours this time..followed by 2 replays of "sports soup"?

Whats wrong with versus?

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 10:27 AM
Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone

Evan
11-03-2008, 10:52 AM
Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone

LEONARD
11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
-Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
-Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen - hate Sonnen, but I think Filho needs more time to recover from whatever rehab he was in
-Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia - great matchup
-Yoshiro Maeda vs. Rani Yahya - another great matchup
-Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone - and another!
-Jake Rosholt vs. Nissen Osterneck - :wow
-Johny Hendricks vs. Alex Serdyukov

Evan
11-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Picking against Jake? Really surprises me.

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:12 PM
Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:14 PM
-Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
-Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen - hate Sonnen, but I think Filho needs more time to recover from whatever rehab he was in
-Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia - great matchup
-Yoshiro Maeda vs. Rani Yahya - another great matchup
-Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone - and another!
-Jake Rosholt vs. Nissen Osterneck - :wow
-Johny Hendricks vs. Alex Serdyukov

Confused,

Aren't we just counting the main cards??

Evan
11-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Leonard hasn't caught onto the new predictions bit yet. This is the third fight in a row.

*shakes head and sighs*

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Confused,

Aren't we just counting the main cards??

we are

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Leonard hasn't caught onto the new predictions bit yet. This is the third fight in a row.

*shakes head and sighs*

LOL we can make a special undercard thread for Leonard. hahahah

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:22 PM
Ok good, because the numbers will be screwed when we tally it up otherwise..

LEONARD
11-03-2008, 03:24 PM
I know that fags, but I wanted to make some pics on others too since the main card is only 3 fights and I like the undercard matchups. Just take my main card pics for the standings...not rocket science :p

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:26 PM
I know that fags, but I wanted to make some pics on others too since the main card is only 3 fights and I like the undercard matchups. Just take my main card pics for the standings...not rocket science :p

I was just confirming what we were doing, no need to get the panties in a twist... :p:

Evan
11-03-2008, 03:30 PM
awesome

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 03:34 PM
I got 10 bucks on Leonard.

Evan
11-03-2008, 03:37 PM
I got 10 bucks on Leonard.

Fight isn't signed...I won't fight one of my friends even if he did call me a f@g.

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 03:43 PM
I meant Leonard vs db

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:52 PM
I meant Leonard vs db

Are you shitting me, betting against me

DB by Spinning back-kick or nipple twist

Leonard can not A'ndle my Riddum....

ATRAIN
11-03-2008, 03:54 PM
Are you shitting me, betting against me

DB by Spinning back-kick or nipple twist

Leonard can not A'ndle my Riddum....

I see you as more of a spinning back fist type of guy ala Shonie Carter.

LEONARD
11-03-2008, 03:55 PM
Leo via knee to the forehead

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:56 PM
I see you as more of a spinning back fist type of guy ala Shonie Carter.

Either that or i'll come out with Brock's 4X size gloves on a rope and try to beat him over the head with them.. :p:

dbreiden83080
11-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Leo via knee to the forehead

You and Dallas think every fight will end this way...

Evan
11-03-2008, 04:15 PM
its the evolution of mma

dallaskd
11-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone
Nissen Osterneck vs. Jake Rosholt

oligarchy
11-03-2008, 06:31 PM
Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Nissen Osterneck vs. Jake Rosholt

dallaskd
11-03-2008, 06:35 PM
Forgot the Rosholt fight....

Rosholt > Lesnar :smokin

dallaskd
11-03-2008, 06:38 PM
Wow you guys are really underestimating Cerrone. Cowboy is going to shock McCullough. I never thought Rob was much even before the Varner fight and is coming off an ugly split decision. Cerrone by Submission (edit).

Evan
11-04-2008, 11:05 AM
Confirmed main and undercards via fightopinion.com (the most unbiased mma website imo)

Main card
145 pounds: Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown (more here)
185 pounds: Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
145 pounds: Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
185 pounds: Jake Rosholt vs. Nissen Osterneck
Undercard
155 pounds: “Razor” Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone
185 pounds: David Avellan vs. Aaron Simpson
145 pounds: Jose Aldo vs. Jonathan Brookins
205 pounds: Carmelo Marrero vs. Steve Steinbeiss
155 pounds: Danny Castillo vs. Rafael Dias
135 pounds: Rani Yahya vs. Yoshiro Maeda


^deepest WEC card ever? Has to be.

Evan
11-04-2008, 11:06 AM
Wow you guys are really underestimating Cerrone. Cowboy is going to shock McCullough. I never thought Rob was much even before the Varner fight and is coming off an ugly split decision. Cerrone by Submission (edit).

Yeah I am wavering on my pick for this....

ATRAIN
11-04-2008, 01:27 PM
Rosholt > Lesnar :smokin

Strike 1

LEONARD
11-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Glad to see Jake Rosholt vs. Nissen Osterneck on the main card now!

Evan
11-04-2008, 01:41 PM
Glad to see Jake Rosholt vs. Nissen Osterneck on the main card now!

Yeah very excited to see that…hope we get at least 5 in but that’s pushing it for a 2 hour broadcast…

Why 2 hours is beyond me…..

Evan
11-04-2008, 06:47 PM
Two of the title-fight participants failed to make weigh on the first attempt. Filho was an eyebrow-raising seven pounds over the 185-pound limit and is now trying to cut weight. Featherweight challenger Brown (who was a half-pound over the 145-pound limit) has since made weight.

The full results included:

MAIN CARD

* Champ Urijah Faber (144.5) vs. Mike Brown (145)^
* Champ Paulo Filho (192)* vs. Chael Sonnen (184.5)
* Leonard Garcia (144.5) vs. Jens Pulver (144)
* Nissen Osterneck (184.5) vs. Jake Rosholt (185.5)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* Donald Cerrone (156) vs. Rob McCullough (155.5)
* Carmello Marrero (206) Steve Steinbeiss (202)
* Yoshiro Maeda (135) vs. Rani Yayha (137)+
* David Avellan (185) vs. Aaron Simpson (184.5)
* Jose Aldo (146) vs. Jonathan Brookins (146)
* Rafael Dias (155) vs. Danny Castillo (156)

^ - Missed weight on first attempt but made it on second attempt.
* - Missed weight on first attempt. Now attempting to make weight.
+ - Missed weight but opponent agreed to fight anyway.


************************************************** ***


Seriously...between drugs/alcohol and being 7lbs over if this is as serious as he wants to take MMA perhaps Zuffa should sit his butt for a year. The only thing that makes Dana more mad than complaining about money is missing weight.

sa_butta
11-04-2008, 06:57 PM
Ill be watching the Spurs game tonight but cant miss it Ill be catching it later on DVR.

Im so pumped about the upcoming events, November and December are stacked.

Evan
11-04-2008, 07:00 PM
Ill be watching the Spurs game tonight but cant miss it Ill be catching it later on DVR.

Im so pumped about the upcoming events, November and December are stacked.

No worries my friend...its on tomorrow.

djohn14
11-04-2008, 07:03 PM
What are yall gonna watch WEC or TUF?...or both for you stubborn folk?

Evan
11-04-2008, 07:09 PM
What are yall gonna watch WEC or TUF?...or both for you stubborn folk?

You know...I don't watch much effing TV at all...my tv is off for a week at a time at least twice a month so it really pisses me off when I have conflicting TV shows... :lol

sa_butta
11-04-2008, 07:12 PM
No worries my friend...its on tomorrow.
LOL for some reason I thought it was tonight, I set up my DVR last week.

Ill probably watch WEC tomorrow and record TUF. You can never get enough MMA...

desflood
11-04-2008, 07:41 PM
Filho missed weight by seven pounds. He's got two hours to lose it.

djohn14
11-04-2008, 07:52 PM
7 pounds. Thats the dumbest thing Ive heard in my life.

dbreiden83080
11-04-2008, 07:55 PM
7 pounds. Thats the dumbest thing Ive heard in my life.

7 pounds, what the hell, did he eat a whole Pepperoni Pizza before weigh ins...

desflood
11-04-2008, 08:08 PM
Word's in now that he only lost three lbs. in those two hours, so it's officially now a non-title fight. Way to punish Sonnen for somebody's else's mistake. I don't like the guy (Sonnen), but as a fighter he deserves more from his opponent.

dallaskd
11-04-2008, 08:10 PM
192...thats terrible.

Evan
11-04-2008, 08:25 PM
He should be stripped of his title and sadly this could be the last WEC belt up for grabs.

dallaskd
11-04-2008, 08:27 PM
Now in a non-title bout, WEC champion Paulo Filho will face Chael Sonnen at a catch weight of 189 pounds at WEC 36 on Wednesday night. His corner, however, says that they will give up the belt if Sonnen wins...

classy.

Evan
11-04-2008, 08:29 PM
classy.

Yeah ok...thats classy.

Good for him...I like him again.

djohn14
11-04-2008, 08:39 PM
He must have thought the fight was next week, because Thiago Alves dosent even miss it by that much, but I hope that report is right.

Evan
11-04-2008, 08:44 PM
He must have thought the fight was next week, because Thiago Alves dosent even miss it by that much, but I hope that report is right.

Like I said earlier....I am not too sure he is interested in fighting...freaking spoiled athlete...

LEONARD
11-05-2008, 01:20 PM
Filho is going to gas so hard...he's not ready for this...


Ill be watching the Spurs game tonight but cant miss it Ill be catching it later on DVR.

Are they really worth watching right now? :wow


What are yall gonna watch WEC or TUF?...or both for you stubborn folk?

Dual tuner DVR in effect

Evan
11-05-2008, 03:05 PM
Are they really worth watching right now? :wow

Wrong forum IMO.

LEONARD
11-05-2008, 03:06 PM
Wrong forum IMO.

suck it, mod...

Evan
11-05-2008, 03:12 PM
suck it, mod...

Shouldn't you be writing me a lil story?

dbreiden83080
11-05-2008, 07:42 PM
Last Call on the picks for this event for anyone interested

djohn14
11-05-2008, 09:07 PM
LOL damn

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Whelp I missed the first 2 fights...SOB....I thought it started at 8 like WEC normally does but It was early for TUF.

I was playing far cry 2....

:)

djohn14
11-05-2008, 09:18 PM
I know...i just found that out...I dont know if you know what happened, but Garcia KOed Jens.

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:21 PM
I know...i just found that out...I dont know if you know what happened, but Garcia KOed Jens.

Yeah I am going to have to catch the replay..I bet this caught a lot of people off guard. WEC is ALWAYS at 8...even when it was on HDNet.

Paulo looks awful.

oligarchy
11-05-2008, 09:27 PM
Chael Sonnen is fucking retarded. Make the motherfucker stand up.. damn he's annoying.

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:31 PM
he heard you!

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:33 PM
I hope Sonnen mops the floor with Paulo's butt

dbreiden83080
11-05-2008, 09:37 PM
Can someone tell me what holy hell that was? Because it sure as hell wasn't a fight...

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:40 PM
Can someone tell me what holy hell that was? Because it sure as hell wasn't a fight...

So bizarre

Paulo doesn't give a damn....he better give up the belt like he promised.

djohn14
11-05-2008, 09:40 PM
That disappoints me more than my children.

oligarchy
11-05-2008, 09:41 PM
He figured out how to let him up, but I still believe he is mentally challenged. He either doesn't listen to his corner or his corner sucks. I'm thinking both. He could have tried to finish it on the feet. No power punches, uppercuts, high-kicks, low-kicks.

Get your paycheck.
Not sure how much longer Filho has left.

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:42 PM
That disappoints me more than my children.

I blame poor genetic material.











I kid I kid!

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:43 PM
Urijah Faber vs. Mike Brown
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Jens Pulver vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough vs. Donald Cerrone

Dang it...I meant to change my Paulo pick last night but got caught up in the election......... :bang

oligarchy
11-05-2008, 09:45 PM
Dang it...I meant to change my Paulo pick last night but got caught up in the election......... :bang

If Urijah wins, you'll get one pick correct. ;)

djohn14
11-05-2008, 09:48 PM
I called Garcia....so is Razor not gonna fight

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:50 PM
If Urijah wins, you'll get one pick correct. ;)

:lol

Oh man am I in a bad slump...

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:51 PM
LOL whose the gay asian dude behind Urijah!?

oligarchy
11-05-2008, 09:52 PM
They can't say American Top Team or what? Coconut Creek -- Coconut Creek...

djohn14
11-05-2008, 09:53 PM
I blame poor genetic material.











I kid I kid!

Thats nice...thats nice.

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:54 PM
They can't say American Top Team or what? Coconut Creek -- Coconut Creek...

???

oligarchy
11-05-2008, 09:56 PM
???

Frank Mir said that Mike Brown trains with some of the greatest from Coconut Creek like 6 times. He never said ATT once and I was wondering why.

Evan
11-05-2008, 09:58 PM
Frank Mir said that Mike Brown trains with some of the greatest from Coconut Creek like 6 times. He never said ATT once and I was wondering why.

Maybe Mir has a personal beef with them because ATT is on UFC.com

"
“My phone was ringing off the hook,” said the American Top Team member, “but I’m honored that people are making such a big deal out of it.”"

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=15614

Evan
11-05-2008, 10:01 PM
When he was bouncing around I said to myself "he looks too cocky"

djohn14
11-05-2008, 10:01 PM
That is stupid...I hate Mike Brown. That was a stupid move by Urijah...Im upset...I wanted to see Pulver-Garcia...this is stupid...I hate this.

Evan
11-05-2008, 10:02 PM
That is stupid...I hate Mike Brown. That was a stupid move by Urijah...Im upset...I wanted to see Pulver-Garcia...this is stupid...I hate this.

Everyone got screwed by this time screw up...I scanned 2 forums and a lot of people were thrown off.

oligarchy
11-05-2008, 10:02 PM
wow.

Evan
11-05-2008, 10:04 PM
"I don't have a lot of KO's on my record but I f*cking hit hard!" Mike Brown

hahahahahahaha

Evan
11-05-2008, 10:06 PM
Man I suck at picking fights lately...haha

dbreiden83080
11-05-2008, 10:31 PM
That's what i get for knowing almost nothing about who was fighting except for Faber and he picks tonight to fuck up. I need a good UFC 91 card bad...

Evan
11-06-2008, 12:12 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/2vdmw51.gif

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/mmastuff/Comp1_1.gif

http://i34.tinypic.com/30shs06.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/nqtv7m.gif

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 12:43 AM
WOW awesome fights, besides Filho, who looked terrible. He is going to get owned in the UFC if he doesn't get it together.

Jens and Faber? wtf. That's mma for ya.

and........Jake Rosholt is a freakin warrior and cardio machine. He had a great chin too, just needs to work on his standup. No one at MW can at wrestle him, period.

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 12:45 AM
Cowboy is the real deal. called it.

Evan
11-06-2008, 12:47 AM
WOW awesome fights, besides Filho, who looked terrible. He is going to get owned in the UFC if he doesn't get it together.

Jens and Faber? wtf. That's mma for ya.

and........Jake Rosholt is a freakin warrior and cardio machine. He had a great chin too, just needs to work on his standup. No one at MW can at wrestle him, period.

Agree

Jake will be top tier fighter in a few years...he has only had a few fights. This is a minor bump in the road for Urijah...doing that stupid elbow was way too cocky thinking he can do anything he wants in a fight.

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 12:51 AM
David Avellan vs. Aaron Simpson was one of the sweetest KO's ive seen all year.

Anyone else annoyed how Frank Mir thinks he knows everything about everything during the fight and will completely cut off his co-anchor. :lol

Tres_Till_it_MHz
11-06-2008, 05:17 AM
Much props for the Lubbuck kid, he worked Pulver like a part time job.

It would be nice to match a few of these guys up with some UFC fighters.

desflood
11-06-2008, 07:23 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/2vdmw51.gif

http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/mmastuff/Comp1_1.gif

http://i34.tinypic.com/30shs06.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/nqtv7m.gif
Holy nuts. Really? REALLY???

djohn14
11-06-2008, 07:59 AM
I dont think Fihlo cared. He was like, well this aint for a title so I dont have to do anything.

IX_Equilibrium
11-06-2008, 08:18 AM
Filho is a classless piece of shit.

Evan
11-06-2008, 09:35 AM
WEC should rethink PPV. They are a awesome show 9/10 times but they should focus on network TV.

Evan
11-06-2008, 11:05 AM
FightOpinion:

It was quite a mixture of emotions watching what felt like the end of the road for Paulo Filho. Here’s a pro-wrestling reference for you - it was like watching Shawn Michaels ‘losing his smile’, like we watched a fighter who had no interest in engaging in anything other than on the ground with Chael Sonnen. Sonnen played the fight smartly and did what he needed to do to win. I don’t blame him one bit for his strategy. It was fun to watch the crowd turn on Paulo Filho so fast.

Steve Cofield:

Dana White and Co. may want to look into Filho’s personal issues. He was in rehab earlier this year for depression and substance abuse problems. No one misses weight in MMA by that much without a bigger issue they’re dealing with.

Filho (16-1) never appeared to be into the fight mentally. In final 90 seconds, Filho looked dazed repeatedly looking off to various sides of the cage. It prompted WEC color voice Frank Mir to flip out: “What is he looking at? I feel like I’m watching the movie with Woody Harrelson (where) he’s like talking to jesus or something.”

Sherdog:

Filho, 30, simply did not seem as if he wanted to be in the cage. Fighting for the first time since going through rehab, he was a far cry from the athlete recognized by many as one of the world’s best middleweights.

MMA Junkie:

For Filho, who has battled demons with depression and substance abuse in recent times, the fight was a blow to his reputation as one of the middleweight division’s elite fighters. Once thought of as the sole heir-apparent to UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva’s crown, Filho’s behavior before and during the fight — as well as his disinterested appearance after — left numerous questions as to his immediate future.

Bloody Elbow:

Filho looked to be experiencing psychosis and one wonders how he passed an evaluation by the athletic commission, but he was coherent enough and the rematch between he and Sonnen was all but required.

Dave Meltzer:

Filho was mad, because in order to get Sonnen to agree to fight him, he had to forfeit 25 percent of his purse to Sonnen. He had vowed to take that 25 percent out on Sonnen, but seemed to fight most of the fight almost in a stupor. By the third round, he was involved in a conversation in Portuguese while fighting, but it didn’t appear that he was actually talking with anyone.

The performance by Filho was so bad, that even though he came into the fight ranked near the top in most middleweight rankings, one has to question whether UFC would even sign him for the division as WEC shuts it down.

Five Ounces:

Last night’s abomination of a performance from Filho will no doubt cause him to drop like a rock in the leading rankings polls out there. Pundits such as myself must own up to our mistake and acknowledge that even when at his best, Filho was never as good as we made him out to be. Perhaps it was the smoke and mirrors PRIDE rolled out for many of the fighters they were trying to build as stars? While in Japan, Filho looked like a buzzsaw. In the States, he looks like a dude who is only fighting because he’s got some debts to pay.

ATRAIN
11-06-2008, 12:43 PM
IS WEC owned by UFC?

LEONARD
11-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Faber will probably get an instant rematch I would think...and he'll be heavily favored again...

Rosholt's stand-up is HORRIBLE...I was very impressed with Osterneck, aside from looking gas'd in the 1st...wtf? Rosholt is gonna need that tough mongoloid head for a few years...

Pulver...wow...surprising that he took wicked punishment from Faber yet a partially blocked punch from Garcia knocked him silly. Score one for the coke man...

Filho...he has to fail the drug test for SOMETHING...he was out of his mind. Should not have fought...he's clearly not back from his depression, rehab, etc...

Evan
11-06-2008, 01:14 PM
IS WEC owned by UFC?

WEC is owned by Zuffa who owns UFC/WEC.

Break down of specific UFC ownership - Dana 10% and the Fertitta brothers 90%-

I don't know for sure if Dana owns any part of the WEC but I am almost certain he does.

The Fertitta brothers who own Zuffa also own the most successful casino's in Vegas, Station Casino's.

If you really want to get into specific's....

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2006/11/01/8392010/index.htm

dbreiden83080
11-06-2008, 03:29 PM
You guys wanna count this on the total, i think everyone is either 1-3 or 0-4 on this damn thing, pretty embarassing, LOL

Anyone even go 2-2..

Evan
11-06-2008, 03:37 PM
You guys wanna count this on the total, i think everyone is either 1-3 or 0-4 on this damn thing, pretty embarassing, LOL

Anyone even go 2-2..

Personally I couldn't care less. But there is something to non UFC events since participation seems minimal. Might be a bit too die hard?

dbreiden83080
11-06-2008, 03:39 PM
Personally I couldn't care less. But there is something to non UFC events since participation seems minimal. Might be a bit too die hard?

Some have 5 fights, some have 4, but a few did fine on the card, mainly everyone tanked...

ATRAIN
11-06-2008, 03:41 PM
You guys wanna count this on the total, i think everyone is either 1-3 or 0-4 on this damn thing, pretty embarassing, LOL

Anyone even go 2-2..

I think we should count it. WE should count UFC, WEC, and Affliction.

dbreiden83080
11-06-2008, 03:44 PM
I think we should count it. WE should count UFC, WEC, and Affliction.

Alright but the numbers won't work out exact because like i said some didn't do all 5 fights on the main card, i think there was some confusion over what was on the undercard...

Evan
11-06-2008, 03:49 PM
Alright but the numbers won't work out exact because like i said some didn't do all 5 fights on the main card, i think there was some confusion over what was on the undercard...

Lets do this…not count it and for now on we do the top 5 fights. 5 will be the standard.

Thoughts?

ATRAIN
11-06-2008, 03:49 PM
Alright but the numbers won't work out exact because like i said some didn't do all 5 fights on the main card, i think there was some confusion over what was on the undercard...

LOL well im happy with scrapping this WEC this one time ;)

dbreiden83080
11-06-2008, 03:55 PM
Lets do this…not count it and for now on we do the top 5 fights. 5 will be the standard.

Thoughts?

I'm good with that, really everyone got smoked on 4 or 5 fights, nobody went over .500

Evan
11-06-2008, 03:58 PM
I'm good with that, really everyone got smoked on 4 or 5 fights, nobody went over .500

And to be consistent…we need to pick 1 site and only 1 site to use fight card line ups. MMAweekly, Bloodyelbow or Fightopinion seem to be the most accurate time and time again.

5ozpain is the worst…..

desflood
11-06-2008, 05:36 PM
Mmaweekly is usually very accurate. My vote goes for them.

angelbelow
11-06-2008, 05:52 PM
i dont watch wec much but one of my friends is pretty into it so i caught this show with him. faber is considered the best but he certainly didnt look the best. i dont know how he usually fights but he appeared too cocky and too careless. if hes the best wec has to offer then i wasnt impressed. but i will be catching future shows so we'll see.

Evan
11-06-2008, 06:58 PM
i dont watch wec much but one of my friends is pretty into it so i caught this show with him. faber is considered the best but he certainly didnt look the best. i dont know how he usually fights but he appeared too cocky and too careless. if hes the best wec has to offer then i wasnt impressed. but i will be catching future shows so we'll see.

He is for sure the best 145lbr...he just had a bad night in which he got way too cocky. What was he thinking doing that stupid mortal kombat like elbow strike........

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 07:00 PM
A. Silva has used that elbow before, just that it was a lot more quick and compact. Brown could see that from a mile away.

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 08:42 PM
just for the record...garcia twisted his nipples prior to the fight.

desflood
11-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Wow you guys are really underestimating Cerrone. Cowboy is going to shock McCullough. I never thought Rob was much even before the Varner fight and is coming off an ugly split decision. Cerrone by Submission (edit).
I didn't realize when I picked that Cerrone trains in NM with Jackson's camp. Had I known, my pick may have been different.

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 08:46 PM
I didn't realize when I picked that Cerrone trains in NM with Jackson's camp. Had I known, my pick may have been different.

It was one of the best fights of the year, no doubt.

dbreiden83080
11-06-2008, 09:49 PM
just for the record...garcia twisted his nipples prior to the fight.

LOL, who started that, was GSP the first??

Evan
11-06-2008, 09:51 PM
LOL, who started that, was GSP the first??

Greg Jackson I think.

So gay and so weird...

desflood
11-06-2008, 09:53 PM
What, are you guys listening to mma radio? Because they're talking about that right now.

dbreiden83080
11-06-2008, 09:54 PM
Greg Jackson I think.

So gay and so weird...

Yes it's odd.

On sherdog when GSP did that, they were all saying, it gives him special powers.. LOL

Evan
11-06-2008, 09:58 PM
What, are you guys listening to mma radio? Because they're talking about that right now.

No just wasting time as usual. Total coincidence.

Hey let us know if they say who originated it, please!

dallaskd
11-06-2008, 10:03 PM
Greg Jackson I think.

So gay and so weird...

then rashad, gsp, jardine, who else?

Evan
11-06-2008, 10:05 PM
then rashad, gsp, jardine, who else?

All of them starting about 3 years ago (I think)

oligarchy
11-06-2008, 11:54 PM
then rashad, gsp, jardine, who else?

Those are all Greg Jackson fighters, if you notice.

GSP has been doing this for years, people just noticed it recently. GSP said in an interview it's for good luck.

LEONARD
11-07-2008, 02:36 PM
just for the record...garcia twisted his nipples prior to the fight.

so did Cerrone...

Evan
11-07-2008, 03:26 PM
I do it while driving!

dallaskd
11-07-2008, 05:47 PM
So has anyone ever done it and lost?

Evan
11-07-2008, 07:06 PM
So has anyone ever done it and lost?

Im sure...Jackson's gym had a bad slump last year but over all they are doing the best over all.