Straight talk Barrack

[clambake]

it's refreshing to hear what a candidates plan for the future is......as opposed to a candidate that has no input regarding his handlers plans.

30 minutes worth of strength, intelligence and resolve.

but whats up with all those white traitors?

[Anti.Hero]

You think Obama straight talk comes during a national infomercial?

[Findog]

it's refreshing to hear what a candidates plan for the future is......as opposed to a candidate that has no input regarding his handlers plans.

30 minutes worth of strength, intelligence and resolve.

but whats up with all those white traitors?

They're not Real Americans

[Findog]

Joe the Plumber, meet Rebecca the MILF

[hater]

it's hard to think of the future when you have 3 years tops to live.

[ducks]

Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities
By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer 2 hrs 27 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

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THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."

THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

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THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."

THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years — and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."

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THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "

THE FACTS: His proposals — the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more — cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged — although not in his commercial — that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

[LnGrrrR]

I love how the "spin" on the first one talks about how his plan wouldn't promise lower premiums... even though the quote listed says nothing about premiums.

And then the last one doesn't even counter any claim. It just says that his programs will cost money. Which, I'm sure it will. You'd think that the "facts" could at least counter the facts that the "spin" is making. By the end of this post, I half-expected something like:

THE SPIN: Obama has said that he supports clean coal techonology.

THE FACTS: He talks about new technology but he doesn't even use a personal Blackberry!

[Nbadan]

Here is the full video...

American Stories, American Solutions

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[Viva Las Espuelas]

we better get him in office now being that he's saying the tax cut is at $200,000. who knows where it will be next week.

[Nbadan]

Obama's closing remarks made tonight in Florida...

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[MannyIsGod]

we better get him in office now being that he's saying the tax cut is at $200,000. who knows where it will be next week.

Its always been there. If you actually knew what the tax plan entailed you'd understand why both figures have been used since they both apply to two entirely different thresholds.

Can you be bothered to find out on your own or should I just tell you?

[clambake]

i started this thread so people could see a candidate that projects vision of his own ideas..........as opposed to a candidate thats simply hawking a tub of oxyclean.

[ploto]

The success of Obama's campaign will change how political campaigns are conducted in the future.

[implacable44]

not really -- a white dude would not be able to run the same type of campaign. he wouldn't have that " its cool to vote for me and show you are not a racist" edge.

[implacable44]

i started this thread so people could see a candidate that projects vision of his own ideas..........as opposed to a candidate thats simply hawking a tub of oxyclean.

You sound like Chris Matthews

[clambake]

who's that?

[implacable44]

why doesn't Obama donate to charity ? Why is his aunt in the slums ? Why doesn't he take care of his own family ?

[ElNono]

why doesn't Obama donate to charity ? Why is his aunt in the slums ? Why doesn't he take care of his own family ?

Feel free to consult www.barackobama.com

[Bartleby]

You sound like Chris Matthews

That's pretty rich, coming from a Glenn Beck wannabee.

[implacable44]

ah .. Bill Maher chimes in,

[clambake]

ah .. Bill Maher chimes in,

will you be at the inauguration?

[Shastafarian]

ah .. Bill Maher chimes in,

Why are you such an idiot? Just curious.

[Anti.Hero]

i started this thread so people could see a candidate that projects vision of his own ideas..........as opposed to a candidate thats simply hawking a tub of oxyclean.

lmao you have no fucking idea what their game is.


What a shitty view Obama has of this country. What weakness many Obama supporters have and will let the Dems exploit them on.

Americants for Obama.

[Anti.Hero]

why doesn't Obama donate to charity ? Why is his aunt in the slums ? Why doesn't he take care of his own family ?

They don't care. They have already been hypnotized by the Big Phony.

[Shastafarian]

President Barack Obama. Go on, say it. How does it make you feel?

[Anti.Hero]

President Obama is just a politician playing a game.

It's many of his supporters who have accepted his smoke and mirrors so easily. They don't feel bad because of it, for they cannot even begin to understand what is really going on.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

why doesn't Obama donate to charity ? Why is his aunt in the slums ? Why doesn't he take care of his own family ?he's too busy being his "brother's keeper".

[Nbadan]

More people watched Obama speak than the world series!

Nielsen: 33.6 million watched Obama ad


83485060 UPDATED: If Barack Obama fails to win the election, perhaps the networks should hire him to entertain viewers on Wednesday nights.

Obama's 30-minute primetime infomercial was seen by 33.6 million viewers across seven networks -- including CBS, NBC, Fox, Univision, MSNBC, BET and TV One.

That's 70% more people than watched the conclusion of the World Series last night on Fox (19.8 million). Clearly, Obama vs. McCain is more compelling to viewers this week than Phillies vs. Rays.

Nielsen estimates that roughly 71% of viewers were white, 17% of viewers were black and 15% were Hispanic.*

Now the tricky question is: What do you compare Obama's ad to? After all, such a national pre-election special hasn’t been attempted in more than a decade.

>> A Ross Perot political special in 1996 totaled 22 million viewers. And one of Perot's ads on Nov. 2 in 1992 carried on ABC and CBS attracted 26 million viewers. Obama's ad was 30% higher but, then again, Perot only got 19% of the vote on Election Day.

>> The lowest-rated of the three recent presidential debates received a 52.4 million viewers -- but that was carried by more networks and was, after all, a highly anticipated debate instead of a paid ad.

>> Among all seven networks, the time period typically draws a total of 30.3 million -- so Obama increased their viewership by about 11%.

The entertainment programming that usually runs in the slot on NBC, CBS and Fox averages 23.1 million viewers each week since the start of the season, roughly 9% lower than the Obama ad total on those networks (which is 25.5 million).

But the usual shows are comedies and dramas. Can one realistically compare "Knight Rider" to a political ad? That would normally seem unfair -- to the politician. Obama improved NBC's time period average this season by 40% and CBS' by 19%.

And keep in mind Obama was competing against himself.

NBC was the most-viewed and highest-rated network for its presentation of Obama's ad, pulling 9.8 million viewers and a 3.0 preliminary adults 18-49 rating. CBS had 8.6 million (2.3) and Fox had 7.1 million (2.8).

Among the top 56 local metered markets, Nielsen says the Baltimore market had the largest TV audience for the ad while the Portland market had the lowest.

As for ABC's underdog "Pushing Daisies," airing on the only major broadcaster not to carry the ad, the counterprogramming tied CBS for third place in the adults 18-49 demo in the afternoon nationals. "Daisies" (6.7 million, 2.3) was also up by 21% from last week to a season high. The CW's "America's Next Top Model" (3.9 million, 2.0), also running in the time period, didn't receive a bump and was on par with last week.