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Nbadan
02-17-2005, 03:08 AM
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Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?
by Bob Fertik on 02/15/2005 3:34am. - revised 02/15/2005 7:00am

In 1998, Bill Clinton was impeached because of these 10 words:

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky."

In 2003, New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey was forced to resign over a secret gay affair.

So what about George Bush and this man James Guckert (a.k.a. Jeff Gannon) - a $200/hour gay male prostitute? (See Monday's expose by John Aravosis of AmericaBlog.org)

Sooner or later, Washington will have to ask: Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?

On January 26, George W. Bush called on Guckert/Gannon at one of Bush's rare press conferences, "bypassing dozens of far more experienced reporters" according to Joe Strupp of Editor & Publisher. (http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000787908)

I guess that depends on the meaning of "experienced."

This was not Guckert/Gannon's first time near Bush. Guckert/Gannon was at other Bush press conferences and was called on by Bush once before. Moreover, Guckert/Gannon went to the White House nearly every day for nearly 2 years. Each time he went, he got specific permission from Scott McClellan's White House Press Office. And Guckert/Gannon went to Bush's White House Christmas Party.

How did a $200/hour gay male prostitute get near George W. Bush nearly every day for 2 years?

Don't tell me the Secret Service didn't know Guckert/Gannon's background. It took amateur bloggers at DailyKos about 5 minutes to find out Gannon owned male prostitution websites, and just two weeks for Aravosis to find out he was a $200/hour whore. I guarantee Scott McClellan and other top White House officials knew exactly who Guckert/Gannon was. According to RawStory.com, McClellan himself has been spotted at gay bars. (http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=73)

So how will the American people learn the sordid truth about Bush, the White House, and Guckert?

The Lying Right-Wing Media (LRWM) won't ask the question. According to those brave News Hounds who watch FOX so we won't have to, Gannon/Guckert's name has never even been mentioned on FOX. (http://www.newshounds.us/2005/02/14/jeff_gannon_has_that_name_ever_been_uttered_on_fox _news.php) Just imagine the wall-to-wall coverage on FOX if this had happened in the CLINTON White House!

But we'll ask it - and we'll keep asking it until we get the truth.

Did George W. Bush - and/or other top White House officials - have sexual relations with that man, James Guckert?

Lest you think this is an absurd question, I'll refer you to the widespread rumors that Bush had a long-term sexual relationship with his Ambassador to Poland ("don't forget Poland!"), former Yale classmate and Knoxville Mayor Victor Ashe. As with every other Bush scandal (AWOL, Bulgegate, Harken Energy, etc.), the Victor Ashe (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=bush+gay+victor+ashe+&btnG=Search) scandal has been blacked out by the LRWM.

http://blog.democrats.com/image/view/2699

I'll also refer you to widespread rumors that GOP Chairman Ken Mehlman is gay (http://www.google.com/search?q=mehlman+gay&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8). Why has DNC chair Howard Dean been put under a microscope by the LRWM, but not RNC chair Ken Mehlman? Surely a party which used homophobia to "win" the 2004 elections should explain how it could tolerate a gay chairman at the same time as it militantly opposes gay rights?

Finally, I'll refer you to the "call boys" scandal of the Reagan-Bush White House (http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm), which made the front page of the Washington Times in 1989. (Thanks Necco!)

Last week, we posted a petition for a Special Prosecutor for "Jeff Gannon." (So far, we've collected nearly 8,000 signatures - please sign it if you haven't yet.) Reps. Louise Slaughter and John Conyers asked Plame-gate Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to expand his investigation to include Guckert/Gannon's access to secret CIA documents about Valerie Plame. Fitzgerald has subpoena powers, so he'd have no trouble tracking down Guckert/Gannon's clients from his pager records.

Guckert/Gannon is at the center of what may be the biggest sex/spy scandal in American history.

Sooner or later, the truth shall set America free.

Blog.democrats.com (http://blog.democrats.com/that-man)

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Here the are right questions we should all be asking about the Gannon/Gucket affair...

How did "Gannon" gain inside access to the White House only 5 days after Talon News was established? Was that long enough to run a background check? Did he have inside help? Did an earlier background check show that it would not look good if Gannon was reporting for GOP/USA?

Finally, there are the blackmail questions that arrise for gays who are not "out of the closet". Was Guckert blackmailing someone associated with the White House? Was somebody blackmailing Guckert or using Guckert's services to blackmail someone else?

Gannon/Gucket definitely got special treatment from someone at the White House. So far, the White House had denied this, saying anybody with a similiar position could get daily passes. Refusing to acknowledge that special treatment existed just re-enforces the argument that there was some sort of blackmail involved.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 08:58 AM
Why is there a picture of your homepage at the top of the thread Dan?

JohnnyMarzetti
02-17-2005, 10:27 AM
Oh how those conservatives love their porn.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 11:00 AM
Blah blah blah blah. Zzzzzzzzzzz. Blah blah blah! Zzzzzzzzzzz What a bunch of ridiculous accusations and statements. All of which are supported by no facts whatsoever.

SpursWoman
02-17-2005, 11:07 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao


You are one twisted fucker, Dan. :lol :rollin

JoeChalupa
02-17-2005, 11:58 AM
Well, I may be wrong but I thought I heard some pretty convincing facts this morning about this guys background.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 12:05 PM
I know that Joe. But some people would have you believe there are pictures of him and Bush going through the back door of the White House if you know what I mean.

Spurminator
02-17-2005, 12:08 PM
Frankly, I don't see why his background is relevant.

He should have been subject to the same background checks as any other reporter with access to the White House.... whether he's a prostitute or a priest.

Unfortunately, as with the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, the "Bush Hataz" can't see past the sex gossip.

JoeChalupa
02-17-2005, 12:14 PM
I know that Joe. But some people would have you believe there are pictures of him and Bush going through the back door of the White House if you know what I mean.

Oh, I didn't know there was that type of connection. :oops

But I don't think there should be planted reporters and if Bill did it he was wrong for doing it too.

But I have heard that Bush is not good at press conferences and taking questions off the cuff.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 12:34 PM
Oh, I didn't know there was that type of connection. :oops

That is what has been implied here by Dan.

But I don't think there should be planted reporters and if Bill did it he was wrong for doing it too.

I think there is a question of weather he was planted, or just a reporter from conservative media that would tend to ask questions that favor Bush.

But I have heard that Bush is not good at press conferences and taking questions off the cuff.

exstatic
02-17-2005, 01:04 PM
He should have been subject to the same background checks as any other reporter with access to the White House.... whether he's a prostitute or a priest.

Spurminator - He was turned down for Capitol Hill credentials, citing lack of a legitimate news outlet (Talon). Why did he get WH creds? Shouldn't that standard be higher?

At least when it comes time to subpoena his blue suit, Dems won't have to worry about whether it was washed or not. :lmao

Spurminator
02-17-2005, 01:12 PM
That's what I'm saying. It's a problem.

Nbadan
02-17-2005, 01:54 PM
Turns out that Gannon may indeed have had a hard press pass after all. Here is the evidence...


In the March 3, 2003 press briefing, a woman is called on to ask a question. Behind her sits a man who looks spetacularly like Jeff Gannon, with... oh, what's that? Well, it certainly LOOKS like a laminated, permanent pass with his picture on it. There are two photos at the link provided, and I took some screencaps of my own, too (forgive the random effects - I was trying to get the pass to show up more clearly):

http://www.rhapsody.nu/gannon1.jpg

http://www.rhapsody.nu/gannon4.jpg

http://www.rhapsody.nu/ladydawgpic1.jpg

If this is indeed a permenant press pass, as if appears to be, this now means that the WH has lied about the Gannon situation, and that somehow Gannon passed a rigurous WH background check.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 02:03 PM
How did they lie?

exstatic
02-17-2005, 02:05 PM
They said he didn't have a hard pass (permanent credentials). The pics seem to indicate otherwise.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 02:06 PM
So does that mean they gave him one and lied about it?

exstatic
02-17-2005, 02:12 PM
It would seem to follow. THEY are the only source of permanent press passes.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 02:15 PM
And no one in the history of the world has ever made a fake document before!

Sincerely,
Dan rather

exstatic
02-17-2005, 02:18 PM
Dan Rather is not a elected public official, but now that you mention it, was removed from his position.

exstatic
02-17-2005, 02:19 PM
If he did fake the document, why is the WH not pursuing this?

Spurminator
02-17-2005, 02:23 PM
I would hope access to the White House isn't as easy as forging a fake press pass.

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 02:37 PM
http://img226.exs.cx/img226/166/danbadge1fo.jpg

I sent this pic to CSI: Washington and they did an "enhance" on it. Look what I found!

bigzak25
02-17-2005, 03:12 PM
it's no secret bush used to do blow....

i'm used to dan's reaches, but this reach around is riDickulous.

JoeChalupa
02-17-2005, 04:04 PM
But Bill got a blow!

dcole50
02-17-2005, 04:18 PM
Blah blah blah blah. Zzzzzzzzzzz. Blah blah blah! Zzzzzzzzzzz What a bunch of ridiculous accusations and statements. All of which are supported by no facts whatsoever.

dan actually posted legit shit this time. can't attack him for this.

Nbadan
02-17-2005, 04:26 PM
Apparently, Jeff Gannon/Guckert has been caught in yet another bold-face lie. In a well-known Right-wing web log Gannon once wrote..


#45 from Jeff Gannon on March 5, 2003 03:26 AM
This is a question I asked Ari Fleischer at a White House press briefing on Friday:

Q There have been reports out of Maine that the children of deployed service personnel are being harassed as a result of their elementary school teacher's expression of anti-war views in the classroom. Could you comment on that?

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not familiar with any specific report, but I can assure you that the President, in all instances, believes that it's important for all to honor and respect the first amendment.

Not the answer I was looking for, but at least I was able to get the issue in front of the mainstream press.

winds of Change (http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/003115.php#c45)

When did Gannon/Guckert first get in the White House ?

This apparently predates McClellan's press secretary tenure !

At the Feb 10 2005 gaggle, McClellan said, 'He, like anyone else, showed that he was representing a news organization that published regularly, and so he was cleared two years ago to receive daily passes, just like many others are.'

McClellan also says: 'I think he's been coming for more than two years now.' (Does this mean 2002 also ?)

Further, he says, 'No one's ever brought such an issue to my attention, in my -- during my time as being Press Secretary.'

And: 'My understanding was, when he started coming to the White House about two years ago, the staff asked to see that it -- that he represented a news organization that published regularly. And they showed that, so he was cleared and has been cleared ever since based on that time.'

Ladies & gentlemen, he did NOT represent Talon when he first got in the White House - 'Talon News' did not EXIST until Mar 29 2003 and that was LESS than 2 yrs ago.

Further we have a 'Jeff Gannon' claiming on Mar 5 2003 to have been at a White House press briefing where he asked Ari Fleischer the question above.

Was [update # 1:] Feb 28 2003 his first time in the White House - or does McClellan's 'more than 2 yrs ago' comment mean that 'Gannon' was in the White House posing as a reporter with NO NEWS SERVICE (not even Talon!) to hide behind.

This predates McClellan-as-press-secretary.

This gets curiouser.

Source:Daily Kos (http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/16/155840/912)

Useruser666
02-17-2005, 04:32 PM
dan actually posted legit shit this time. can't attack him for this.

His wild accusations are not LEGIT! He has posted things that are true, but he keeps weaving them together by reaching and jumping to conclusions.

The only proof of anything I've seen so far, is that the guy registered some adult domains, was present at some White House press conferences, and has stepped down at the media outlet he was writting for. Now I want to see some solid PROOF of some REAL wrong doing.

Nbadan
02-17-2005, 07:08 PM
http://www.precision-camera.com/gallery/dickey/kdickey_06a.jpg

willie
02-17-2005, 09:20 PM
It is interesting how fast those who supposedly are for tolerance of gays against the fury of religious conservatives are ready to rely on "gay" as a perjorative term...

exstatic
02-17-2005, 09:59 PM
You still don't get it, Matt. It's FUNNY that he tricked self-said religious conservatives into voting for him. I DGAF who he screws, but I'll bet THEY do.

willie
02-17-2005, 10:02 PM
Oh I get it. You are willing to believe anything and engage in anything, even something you supposedly deplore.

And the name's Willie.

exstatic
02-17-2005, 10:04 PM
Right. As if one of your daily identities is so tough to spot. OK, "Willie".

Guru of Nothing
02-17-2005, 10:50 PM
Karl Rove wins again.

Come on Dems! Just because someone offers you a line of shit does not mean you have to eat it.

I'm quite agnostic with regards to my politics, but my goodness, you Dems are hitting new credibility depths. George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, fuck two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

Anyone doubt that?

Spurminator
02-17-2005, 10:55 PM
George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, fuck two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

Absolutely. Because instead of focusing on his goat-fucking tendencies, his detractors (the most obnoxiously vocal ones, I should say) would try to convince the populace that not ONLY was he fucking goats and chickens... but those goats and chickens once belonged to Saudi royals who allowed him to fuck their animals in exchange for permission to detonate a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.

Guru of Nothing
02-17-2005, 11:00 PM
Absolutely. Because instead of focusing on his goat-fucking tendencies, his detractors would try to convince the populace that not ONLY was he fucking goats and chickens... but those goats and chickens once belonged to Saudi royals who allowed him to fuck their animals in exchange for permission to detonate a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.

That's funny as hell, BUT ONLY because it's true.

willie
02-17-2005, 11:01 PM
But Bush was near THE GAY.

willie
02-17-2005, 11:07 PM
Karl Rove wins again.

Come on Dems! Just because someone offers you a line of shit does not mean you have to eat it.

I'm quite agnostic with regards to my politics, but my goodness, you Dems are hitting new credibility depths. George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, fuck two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

Anyone doubt that?


I agree 100 per cent. What better way to motivate the far right base for the mid term elections than to accuse their man of posessing THE GAY? What better way to ensure that nothing of real substance attracts the most attention in our public discourse?

Guru of Nothing
02-17-2005, 11:19 PM
What better way to ensure that nothing of real substance attracts the most attention in our public discourse?

And Bingo was his name-O.

Ain't it funny that Republicans merely fear "Balkanization," while the Democrats actually suffer from it.

willie
02-17-2005, 11:23 PM
After spending the better part of 2 years accusing Bush of invading Iraq to enrich his friends, having prior knowledge of the 9-11 attacks, cheating during a presidential debate, neglecting his National Guard duties, etc...do the Demos really think that accusing Bush of being a closet homosexual is going to work? At some point does it not register that the more shit you throw at Bush the more it energizes his base?

Spurminator
02-17-2005, 11:34 PM
Just more fodder for Right Wing Talk Radio. Instead of having to try to defend the White House for allowing a supposed reporter with questionable credentials to have the kind of access to the President usually reserved for established veterans, they'll be taking calls from angry right-wing loyalists who are outraged that anyone would call The President a homo.

willie
02-17-2005, 11:41 PM
What's needed now is for Howard Dean to start asking why the media isn't covering the scandal involving Bush's gay lover.

willie
02-17-2005, 11:48 PM
Rove strategy for 2005-2006:

Spend 2005 pushing every major policy goal listed on the GOP wishlist for over the last five decades or thereabouts.

Spend 2006 pushing phony social issue items (ie abortion, gay marriage, etc) designed to motivate base turnout in the November election.

Repeat again starting in 2007.

Nbadan
02-18-2005, 12:19 AM
Karl Rove wins again.

Come on Dems! Just because someone offers you a line of shit does not mean you have to eat it.

I'm quite agnostic with regards to my politics, but my goodness, you Dems are hitting new credibility depths. George W. Bush could walk into his backyard in Crawford, fuck two goats and a chicken in front of Michael Moore, and still come out smelling like a political rose.

Anyone doubt that?

You should change your moniker from GON to DMF cause your a dumb mother-fuk. What or who the hell is a credible source to you? Cnn? FoxNews?

The only reason that this adminstration gets away with every corrupt act they get away with is because of dumb-fucks like you who are so apathetic about our government that you truely just don't give a shit anymore about anything but yourself. People like you are so far gone, you've grown so cynicle that you are beyond reproach. No, it's not the conspiracy theorists that post in this forum who are the true threats to our fragile democracy, but the DMF's like you who ridicule everyone that still does gives a fuck.

willie
02-18-2005, 12:25 AM
So we're supposed to care now that a young inexperienced individual with questionable credentials got into the White House and perhaps got it on but we weren't with president #42?

GoN is correct and judging by the response he got apparently hit a nerve dead on.

Nbadan
02-18-2005, 12:28 AM
Absolutely. Because instead of focusing on his goat-fucking tendencies, his detractors (the most obnoxiously vocal ones, I should say) would try to convince the populace that not ONLY was he fucking goats and chickens... but those goats and chickens once belonged to Saudi royals who allowed him to fuck their animals in exchange for permission to detonate a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.

See, that's the kind of straw-man logic that these board NeoCons rely on to undermine arguments. You can post till your blue in the face about a fake reporter working for a fake news agency reporting fake news and none of them seem to get it, but talk beastiality or god-forbid, homosexuals, and all of the sudden that all that this whole situation is about.

Give your head out of your ass for once Sperminator.

Nbadan
02-18-2005, 12:35 AM
So we're supposed to care now that a young inexperienced individual with questionable credentials got into the White House and perhaps got it on but we weren't with president #42?

GoN is correct and judging by the response he got apparently hit a nerve dead on.

Your supposed to care because this nation is supposed to be on a war-footing complete with protecting against everyday threats to a sitting President, and here we have a situation where a person with compromised credentials evidently got preferrential treatment by the WH press corps.

We were not under a war-footing under Clinton, at least, Democrats weren't yet, but the 00 and 04 Presidential elections have certainly changed all that.

willie
02-18-2005, 12:37 AM
Funny, this nation should have been on a war footing back then but instead the president was busy entertaining someone young.

You want to know why people don't seem to give a damn about politics in this forum? I'll tell you.

YOU.

Figure it out.

Nbadan
02-18-2005, 12:47 AM
Funny, this nation should have been on a war footing back then but instead the president was busy entertaining someone young.

You want to know why people don't seem to give a damn about politics in this forum? I'll tell you.

YOU.

Figure it out.

I think you need to figure out that it doesn't matter how many avatars you make up to post in this forum. Nobody cares that you dislike me or this forum. They like it and they are going to post here anyway.

This forum is less than a year old, but we have survived the loss of various good posters - Truthsayer, DeSpurado, and now evidently Yonivore and you know what? None of it matters because there are always others coming and going that help pick up the pieces which others left behind.

There is no greater evidence to the longtivity of this forum.

willie
02-18-2005, 12:58 AM
:nope

The issue was why so many individuals are apathetic about American politics.

You are a prime example. People are sick and tired of partisans who either love their side and believe they can do no wrong or view the other side with a hatred so comical you can't help but laugh sometimes.

Most people post in here to ridicule your dumbass threads. Some accomplishment.

Spurminator
02-18-2005, 01:37 AM
You can post till your blue in the face about a fake reporter working for a fake news agency reporting fake news and none of them seem to get it, but talk beastiality or god-forbid, homosexuals, and all of the sudden that all that this whole situation is about.

Give your head out of your ass for once Sperminator.*

But you've talked till you were blue in the face about the homosexuality/prostitution angle of the story. You've been doing exactly as I described. There are valid criticisms to be made about Gannon's credentials as a journalist, but you and other DU sheep have chosen to focus on the sex. And that's why most people have tuned you out, and will continue to tune you out.

If you took a poll of casual forum visitors who have not read every post in detail, but just scanned some of the threads, what do you think their perception of this scandal would be? Would they think you were most concerned that a non-credible reporter gained access to the White House, or that a homosexual prostitute gained access to the White House?

Nbadan
02-18-2005, 02:12 AM
If you took a poll of casual forum visitors who have not read every post in detail, but just scanned some of the threads, what do you think their perception of this scandal would be? Would they think you were most concerned that a non-credible reporter gained access to the White House, or that a homosexual prostitute gained access to the White House?

I don't know about you, but I would be concerned about both circumstances. Don't confuse liberal bloggers having a little fun with the inappropriateness of all this with the seriousness that some senior Democrats, especially those in intelligence and on the Fitzgerald Commission, are treating this. However, for reasons yet to be investigated, some Democrats are just as guilty as the MSM about downplaying the current Gannon/Guckert situation.

NameDropper
02-18-2005, 07:31 AM
I think Bush is bi-sexual because he's screwing everybody in America and we'll be paying for it long after he's gone.

Useruser666
02-18-2005, 09:32 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm tired of hearing the phrase "Main Stream Media".