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Amuseddaysleeper
10-30-2008, 10:29 PM
Hornets looking good so far without Chandler.


Need to keep the FG% down though
Allanon
10-30-2008, 10:33 PM
They're looking good because their shots are falling, Shaq/Amare out so far in the 2nd quarter.

But as soon as Shaq and Amare are back, I'm pretty sure they'll put away the Hornets.

Hornets without Chandler are way too small/inexperienced/sucky in the middle to play in the West.
IronMexican
10-30-2008, 10:34 PM
The Aristotle will go for 30-20 tonight.
dirk4mvp
10-30-2008, 10:34 PM
Hornets are for real.
Allanon
10-30-2008, 10:35 PM
Nash and Amare back in the game.
lurker
10-30-2008, 10:37 PM
Suns are a hot mess.
Allanon
10-30-2008, 10:37 PM
David West with 2 fouls now
IronMexican
10-30-2008, 10:45 PM
Fucking Shaq haters better recognize! I love the Diesel.
dirk4mvp
10-30-2008, 10:47 PM
The Hornets are nice.
Amuseddaysleeper
10-30-2008, 10:48 PM
It woulda been one thing if only PHX was on the b2b but damn
dirk4mvp
10-30-2008, 10:49 PM
This game would be out of reach if Chandler was healthy.
Allanon
10-30-2008, 10:52 PM
This game would be out of reach if Chandler was healthy.

That's the biggest problem with the Hornets, if anything happens to Chandler or West (foul trouble), they're royally screwed.

Neither one of them has a quality backup, Hornets are the only elite team I know of without at least 1 quality backup big man.
Allanon
10-30-2008, 10:54 PM
Now Armstrong with 3 fouls.

Ely in and Amare/Shaq starting to get back to work.
ducks
10-30-2008, 11:05 PM
hornets catch a break with suns playing last night
ducks
10-30-2008, 11:16 PM
shaq and nash are old
hornets are younger
Amuseddaysleeper
10-30-2008, 11:17 PM
Hornets played a thriller last night too. No Chandler also.

Exactly. That Warriors game was pretty close.
IronMexican
10-30-2008, 11:25 PM
It's ducks. Cut him some slack, it's a pretty decent comment coming from him.
Allanon
10-30-2008, 11:33 PM
Suns are down but I still think Suns are winning this game.
dirk4mvp
10-30-2008, 11:37 PM
Man the Hornets are impressive.
Lakers2009champs
10-30-2008, 11:51 PM
The Suns are not winning this :lol, IMAGINE if Chandler or JuJu were playing.

It will be a 30+ lead.
Allanon
10-31-2008, 12:00 AM
5 point game.

Hornets just can't hang with big teams like the Suns without Chandler.

Amare just strolled inside for an easy dunk.
Lakers2009champs
10-31-2008, 12:03 AM
LOL at Hornets can't hang with big teams like the Spuns.

THEY WERE 4-0 against them last season dude:downspin::lol
Many PackYao
10-31-2008, 12:04 AM
Casual Butler with tha 3!!
Lakers2009champs
10-31-2008, 12:08 AM
The Hornets arn't even giving it their all and the suns are still losing:lol
turiaf for president
10-31-2008, 12:08 AM
LOL at Hornets can't hang with big teams like the Spuns.

THEY WERE 4-0 against them last season dude:downspin::lol

i believe allanon means they cant hang with big teams without chandler
Lakers2009champs
10-31-2008, 12:13 AM
i believe allanon means they cant hang with big teams without chandler

Obviously they could since their winning LOL.
turiaf for president
10-31-2008, 12:13 AM
posey is sick.
turiaf for president
10-31-2008, 12:14 AM
Obviously they could since their winning LOL.

i think this hornets can play like the suns of the past 3-4 years. run and gun spread with multiple shooters.
Allanon
10-31-2008, 12:21 AM
Damn, so much for that one.

Looks like they can hang with the Suns just fine ... even without Chandler

Those turnovers by Nash at the end there were killer.
Amuseddaysleeper
10-31-2008, 12:28 AM
Nash is getting really old.
Xylus
10-31-2008, 12:54 AM
Suns lost this one on turnovers and horrible perimeter defense in the 4th quarter.

What is it with the Suns and allowing opponents' 3-point threats to bomb away whenever the hell they want? Get in their fucking faces and prevent the 3. No excuse for allowing Posey, Butler, and Peja to shoot whatever the hell they want behind the arc. That's just bad, bad defense.
Xylus
10-31-2008, 01:05 AM
Get use to it buddy, that team is old and tired. The good thing for Suns fans is you were able to beat the lowly Lakers a few years ago... good riddens..:lol

LOL @ mocking my Suns fandom by bringing up the fact that we beat you two years in a row.
Xylus
10-31-2008, 01:11 AM
Suns - 24 TO's
Hornets - 10 TO's

There's the ball game. Porter's gotta clean up the offense.
RonMexico
10-31-2008, 01:12 AM
24 TOs by Suns

13/24 3pt by NO

Story of the game.

I was feelin a 4th quarter comeback, but Posey and Butler killed it.
Obstructed_View
10-31-2008, 02:30 AM
Valiant effort, but the Suns still can't play defense.
Xylus
10-31-2008, 02:33 AM
Valiant effort, but the Suns still can't play defense.

Suns kept the Hornets out of the paint the whole game, so it wasn't a layup drill like the Suns usually allow. Just have to close out on those 3-point shooters. Shouldn't be a difficult adjustment.
Obstructed_View
10-31-2008, 05:58 AM
Suns kept the Hornets out of the paint the whole game, so it wasn't a layup drill like the Suns usually allow. Just have to close out on those 3-point shooters. Shouldn't be a difficult adjustment.

When a team has to pack the paint in order to defend a team missing their starting center to the point where they get bombed relentlessly with wide open jump shots I'm not sure where the adjustment lies, but I'm sure it isn't simple. The Suns basically had to double constantly because most of the guys on the floor at any given time aren't good individual defenders. You'd think that Amare could either keep David West in front of him or contest his shots without someone having to help him.
pauls931
10-31-2008, 11:55 AM
Horrible defense, turnovers, and NO just has their number. Paul's passing out of double and triple teams was tremendous and Peja/West were shooting uncontested shots all night.
sribb43
10-31-2008, 11:57 AM
Suns had less TO's in D'Antoni's uptempo offense
pauls931
10-31-2008, 11:58 AM
Nash is getting really old.

That's not their problem... Isnt' Bowen 37? Jazz did great with an old stockton for years.
Obstructed_View
10-31-2008, 12:05 PM
That's not their problem... Isnt' Bowen 37?
It's early yet, but Bowen hasn't looked stellar so far. Perhaps not the best example.
pauls931
10-31-2008, 12:14 PM
It's early yet, but Bowen hasn't looked stellar so far. Perhaps not the best example.

I thought he did good face guarding nash last year and spotting for the occasional 3. Haven't seen enough of him this year to tell myself.
Xylus
10-31-2008, 01:36 PM
When a team has to pack the paint in order to defend a team missing their starting center to the point where they get bombed relentlessly with wide open jump shots I'm not sure where the adjustment lies, but I'm sure it isn't simple. The Suns basically had to double constantly because most of the guys on the floor at any given time aren't good individual defenders. You'd think that Amare could either keep David West in front of him or contest his shots without someone having to help him.

I only watched the 2nd half, but David West had wide open jumpers all night long. When Amare actually bodied him up and forced West to get physical, nothing came easy for him. Amare can guard West, so if West was getting doubled, that's Porter's fault.

It's not like the Hornets' offensive plays were brilliant. In the 4th quarter, Butler popped a 3 in the face of his defender twice in a row. Posey did the same thing. It's a very simple solution--don't give them space to shoot.
tomtom
10-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Hmm anyone know what the Hornets have done in the off season? Just realized Wells is gone now. Hmm they seem really small in the front court
BRHornet45
11-01-2008, 01:01 AM
They're looking good because their shots are falling, Shaq/Amare out so far in the 2nd quarter.

But as soon as Shaq and Amare are back, I'm pretty sure they'll put away the Hornets.

Hornets without Chandler are way too small/inexperienced/sucky in the middle to play in the West.

LMAO at you son!