What would it take to get Michael Redd? [Archive]

Ghost Writer

10-31-2008, 10:42 AM

completely deck

10-31-2008, 10:46 AM

He's one of the best, if not the best, player on their team. We'd have to give up a lot before they considered trading him. Unrealistic trade at the moment.

Dex

10-31-2008, 10:46 AM

I don't see getting him for anyone outside of the Big Three.

In which case, not worth it.

xtremesteven33

10-31-2008, 10:47 AM

The guys contract is friggin huge.....i would love to have him, great attitude, spurs kinda guy, but his contract is ridiculous.

xtremesteven33

10-31-2008, 10:49 AM

He is actually owed 15 Million this year alone

SenorSpur

10-31-2008, 10:51 AM

C'mon man. Too much money. What's with all the knee-jerk acquisition possibilities?

DisAsTerBot

10-31-2008, 10:52 AM

THINK :bang

FromWayDowntown

10-31-2008, 11:03 AM

Yeah, Redd's got almost 3 full years left on a deal that paid him $90 million over 6 years. He'll be in the $17 million - $18 million per season range in 09-10 and 10-11.

SenorSpur

10-31-2008, 11:05 AM

Yeah, Redd's got almost 3 full years left on a deal that paid him $90 million over 6 years. He'll be in the $17 million - $18 million per season range in 09-10 and 10-11.

I wouldn't spend that amount of money on Redd in the summer of 2010. I've always thought the Bucks errored by giving him a max contract, when he's no where near being a max player. Fantastic shooter, but not a max player by any means. Good luck with that contract.

I. Hustle

10-31-2008, 11:19 AM

What would it take to get rid of dumb suggestions like this?

ss1986v2

10-31-2008, 11:20 AM

we would have to send out a minimum of ~12.6 mil in contracts to make it work. not feasible.

JamStone

10-31-2008, 11:40 AM

It would take Tony Parker.

Ghost Writer

10-31-2008, 11:40 AM

First off, fvck you guys who criticize my question.

A suggestion is saying we should do it.

A question is asking "What would it take to get Michael Redd?"

Thank you to the few who answered intelligently.

Based on his contract alone, you are right in saying it would not be in the Spurs' best interest.

And Redd may be the best player on the Bucks, but he'd be the 3rd or 4th best on the Spurs.

This is why the Bucks aren't that good.

HarlemHeat37

10-31-2008, 11:42 AM

other than the fact that we can't get him..what player are you guys watching?..

Redd is one of the bigger ball-hogs in the NBA, doesn't play defense, and has been known as being a team cancer on the court with his shot selection and ball-hogging..

SenorSpur

10-31-2008, 12:01 PM

Ghost, apologies if you took offense to the retort. It's just that you're a knowledgeable poster. And it's obvious that you follow the NBA closely. I would just be surprised if you didn't already know that Redd was a max player. A player making about the same amout of jack as Wade, LeBron and others. A player who, while coveted, is too expensive for the Spurs roster.

Ghost Writer

10-31-2008, 12:01 PM

Um, no.

That is not true.

Redd may be overpaid, but he's not a ball-hog or a jerk.

HarlemHeat37

10-31-2008, 12:03 PM

I don't think he's a jerk..I meant he's a team cancer on the court, which a lot of Bucks fans have told me..he IS a ball-hog though, I don't see how that's arguable..he also takes very questionable shots..of course he's talented enough to make a lot of these questionable shots, but Redd has still yet to buy into a team concept..it'll be interesting to see if he can under a new coach, but he looked like the same guy vs. Chicago in the opening game..

Ghost Writer

10-31-2008, 12:07 PM

It's tough though, Heat37, because he is a gunner by nature and Redd has really no one besides R-Jeff to defer to on offense.

He requires a lot of shots, much like R. Miller or R. Allen in their primes.

I envision Redd someday as Ray Allen on the Celtics... he would not need to chuck up so many shots on a better team.

SenorSpur

10-31-2008, 12:13 PM

Outside of his shooting, Redd doesn't do much else in terms of affecting the game. It would help him if he played with a legitimate post player - just not our post player.

Ghost Writer

10-31-2008, 12:20 PM

mrspurs

10-31-2008, 12:26 PM

Redd is good, better then good. But what help is he gonna do Timmy. Thats where we lose games in the 4th quarters if we stay around long enough. Why do people keep wanting to see our smalls get better when its Timmy who really needs the help. If your gonna go for a small then lets put Tony at the 2 and start looking for point guard. TP is great but 32points 5assits. That doesnt make your team better. It does bring alot of points. Dang its pretty simple what our needs are. Someone next to Timmy.

dbestpro

10-31-2008, 12:26 PM

Redd is a dead-eye shooter and a class act.

Scott Skiles is getting him to be more defensive minded this season.

The Bucks will probably be in a "sell mode" again at the deadline.

Do we have anything -- talent, expiring contracts, picks -- to give to Milwaukee to bring this steady shooter in?

You already have the next best thing. He is RMJ. Look at the numbers and based on averages they are very similar in many ways.

benefactor

10-31-2008, 12:32 PM

I wouldn't spend that amount of money on Redd in the summer of 2010. I've always thought the Bucks errored by giving him a max contract, when he's no where near being a max player. Fantastic shooter, but not a max player by any means. Good luck with that contract.
The Bucks love to overpay people. They gave Bogut over 70 million....:lmao

SenorSpur

10-31-2008, 12:36 PM

Senor, points taken.

Can I be considered "knee jerk" if I have been desperate for outside help for 15 years now?

Maybe just call me a "jerk."

I knew Redd's contract was big, but wasn't sure how many years. He is not worthy of a max contract in my opinion.

But he's a fine shooter and I think he'd be a valuable piece as a secondary star in the right situation.

I'll narrow my focus to the Daniel Gibson types.

Nah no attacks or name-calling here, my friend.

I've got no use for the misfits. The SGs in PGs bodies. I don't like guys like Damon Jones or Daniel Gibson. They're good shooters, but can't do much else. Specialists are fine, but me personally, I like guys that a bit more well-rounded. Guys that have other skills to fall back on - namely guys that have offense, yet can either defend or rebound or both. That's just me. I'm a bit surprised that Pop has made exceptions for the Finley's, the Stoudamires, the Van Exels of the world.

Ghost Writer

10-31-2008, 01:21 PM

SenorSpur

10-31-2008, 01:40 PM

I think Pop makes the exceptions, because beggars can't be choosers.

It's difficult to find jack-of-all trades like James Posey.

I'd like to acquire Gerald Wallace in a few years, when he's tired of toiling for crappy teams and will be much more affordable.

With the way the Bobtails are losing money and cutting salary, I wouldn't be surprised if they put Wallace on the market this season. I'd like to have him now, but I would've rather had him when his price tag wasn't about 10 mil per.

Indazone

10-31-2008, 02:11 PM

What would it take to get Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison?:rolleyes

SequSpur

10-31-2008, 02:54 PM

GW gets it.

Spurs need help or a little retooling. Most of you asswads still haven't figured that out.

Currently, the Spurs are in last place.. will they win a game before manu gets back?

dbestpro

10-31-2008, 03:10 PM

Redd ani't on the block. Harrington and Curry are. Some combination of Thomas, Bonner and you know who might work.

Bobsyeruncle

10-31-2008, 04:20 PM

Better Redd than dead, huh Spurms fans

Allanon

10-31-2008, 04:34 PM

Currently, the Spurs are in last place..

Hahah, that was good.

But seriously, I do think the Spurs will have a major trade go down before the deadline.

DPG21920

10-31-2008, 04:35 PM

Hahah, that was good.

But seriously, I do think the Spurs will have a major trade go down before the deadline.

I do not think so (depending on your definition of major). It has already been stated that this core is getting this year to try and win another title together.

ChumpDumper

10-31-2008, 04:36 PM

C'mon man. Too much money. What's with all the knee-jerk acquisition possibilities?The Spurs lost a game.

Allanon

10-31-2008, 04:38 PM

I do not think so (depending on your definition of major). It has already been stated that this core is getting this year to try and win another title together.

I don't think TP or Duncan will be leaving the group.

Manu's rehab will determine whether they'll wait for him.

Yah, I know it seems unlikely, but for some crazy reason I keep seeing AI, Melo or JR Smith in a Spurs jersey anytime I think of trade.

Big P

10-31-2008, 04:50 PM

What would it take? Probably Pop smoking some crack with Skiles.

jack sommerset

10-31-2008, 04:53 PM

trade mangoo for him. he is hurt and looks like his body can't take a full season plus he is a WILD beast that can lose u games. i wish the spews had some nuts.

Dr. Gonzo

10-31-2008, 04:56 PM

Screw Michael Redd. Morris Almond is available.

DPG21920

10-31-2008, 05:04 PM

I don't think TP or Duncan will be leaving the group.

Manu's rehab will determine whether they'll wait for him.

Yah, I know it seems unlikely, but for some crazy reason I keep seeing AI, Melo or JR Smith in a Spurs jersey anytime I think of trade.

The only one out of that group I would want is Melo (if we are talking a trade for Manu) and I do not see why the Nuggets would do that. But I would rather keep the core together for at least this year.

Ed Helicopter Jones

10-31-2008, 05:07 PM

Sequ and GW have given this place a full dose of BAMA after one game. I sure hope Manu is healthy soon.

Allanon

10-31-2008, 05:19 PM

The only one out of that group I would want is Melo (if we are talking a trade for Manu) and I do not see why the Nuggets would do that. But I would rather keep the core together for at least this year.

I see your point, Melo would indeed be hard to get as he's their best piece and extremely talented. It's quite unlikely too, but for arguments sake.

But they also know they aren't going anywhere with 'Melo. A veteran good guy like Manu would be a nice start to rebuilding (not so much for the wins but for instilling the right attitude). The Nugz would be rebuilding their image as well as their team.

I suspect the Nugz will go into full rebuilding mode the latter half of this year.

Hope Nuggets-Fan doesn't see this.

DPG21920

10-31-2008, 05:22 PM

I see your point, Melo would indeed be hard to get as he's their best piece and extremely talented.

But they also know they aren't going anywhere with 'Melo, a veteran good guy like Manu would be a nice start to rebuilding. I suspect the Nugz will go into full rebuilding mode the latter half of this year.

Hope Nuggets-Fan doesn't see this.

Ha. I would not be that upset in reality if the Spurs could pull Melo for Manu. That would be about the best the Spurs could hope for with regards to value now and in the future. Obviously short term I would rather have Manu, but Melo would not kill us and he would be a better building piece in the future. Especially if he could be mentored and held accountable by Pop and Tim. He could grow here.

Anti.Hero

10-31-2008, 05:24 PM

Any good big men in the draft this year? :depressed

Obstructed_View

10-31-2008, 05:39 PM

T I T S

manufor3

10-31-2008, 05:50 PM

Any good big men in the draft this year? :depressed

tyler hansbrough anyone?

Allanon

10-31-2008, 06:21 PM

I'm not really feeling the draft this year outside of Ricky Rubio.

Dramon

10-31-2008, 07:02 PM

Spurstalk response: Well, if we traded Kurt Thomas, Bowen, and Finley the salaries might work out.

Next off-season...the FO sucks, they didn't make an effort to get Michael Redd without giving up any of the big 3. What is wrong with them.

Reality: Michael Redd wouldn't really be that great of a fit for us anyways and would never come to San Antonio. There isn't enough money or shots for him on the Spurs.