Harvey: Long but gone, and Spurs see the loss

[Blackjack]

Long but gone, and Spurs see the loss

Buck Harvey -

Had the 2008 draft gone differently, Bruce Bowen would still be starting.
At least another game.

Just as Gregg Popovich went with a French teenager named Tony Parker just five games into his career, Popovich would be inclined to do the same with another.

Had the 2008 draft gone differently.

As it is, Bowen has as many points as the Spurs have wins this season. He played less than 22 minutes against both the Suns in the opener and in Portland on Friday night, and the end-game situation against the Blazers was telling. Then, when the Spurs needed to slow Brandon Roy, they went with other defenders.

That doesn't mean Bowen is finished; he's shown similar senior moments in the past two seasons and has recovered. Knowing the respect Popovich has for him, Bowen will get extended chances.

Still, the equation would be far different today if the Spurs had gotten what they wanted last June. Then they tried everything they could — from smokescreen e-mails to medical subterfuge — to draft a 19-year-old Frenchman, Nicolas Batum.

He's smooth and athletic, and he showed that Friday night against the Spurs. Batum dunked on a fast break and threw in a 3-pointer on his way to a dozen points.

But it's his defense that impresses, and one word describes this 6-foot-8 swingman. Long. He combines quick feet with a wingspan that would cover what Kurt Thomas and Michael Finley can't reach.

outh, speed, length — isn't a European Tayshaun Prince precisely what the Spurs need?

Other teams saw his potential last summer, too, and most listed him as a mid-first round pick. But in the days leading up to the draft he underwent a treadmill test for the Nets and Raptors, and the results raised fears about his heart.

The stuff was scary, as well as confusing. Batum's father had died at a young age, and, because of circumstance and because too many years had passed, teams had difficulty finding if there was a link.
Toronto, drafting at No. 17, had seen enough. The Raptors removed Batum from their board.

Batum went through a series of thorough tests in Cleveland, and R.C. Buford was there for them. Afterward Bouna Ndiaye, Batum's agent, announced his client had passed; teams were to get a full medical report the next day, a Tuesday, two days before the draft.

That's also when Batum went to San Antonio for a workout. But the medical reports were never released, and Batum never talked to another team.

A draft site wrote this: “Some teams are openly wondering whether San Antonio gave Batum a promise and asked him to not distribute his physical around the league, which would make him very likely to slip to 26.”

Draft day brought another curious move. The Spurs sent out e-mails to all 29 teams inviting them to bid on their No. 26 draft pick.

Everyone assumed the Spurs had Batum's medical report. Were they now suggesting by their e-mail they weren't satisfied with what they had seen? Or did they just want everyone to think that?

So Batum began to fall during the draft, and Portland didn't care. Kevin Pritchard, the Blazers general manager, had pushed his owner to buy the No. 27 pick from New Orleans, and his announced target was Serge Ibaka, a 6-10 player from the Congo.

Oklahoma City, however, took Ibaka at No. 24. Needing someone for this recently purchased pick, not exactly sure what was the best option, Pritchard was in a position to gamble on both Batum's medical questions and rumors that the Spurs were still interested. He traded up with Houston, moving a slot ahead of the Spurs, and took Batum.

Reports that night said the Spurs cheered when Batum was selected, because that meant George Hill had fallen to them. That's not accurate.
The Spurs were sincerely pleased to get Hill, and they still like him. But Hill plays behind Parker.

Given what Batum showed the Spurs on Friday, given another game or two, there's a chance Batum wouldn't play behind anyone in San Antonio.

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[YODA]

SIGH.,..enough with Batum. We didnt get him. PERIOD

[timvp]

Good to see Buck Harvey still reads SpursTalk :lol

But I'd find it damn hard to believe Pop would bench Bowen for Batum. As good as Batum looks like he'll be down the line, Bowen would have to play more than two bad games to get benched after all he's done. Batum would be in the rotation but more likely taking Udoka's minutes than anyone else.

[Borosai]

My reliable source tells me that Manu and Oberto had a hand in this. They couldn't bear the thought of being outnumbered 3-2 by Frenchmen, so they handled the situation discretely. However, if the Spurs had signed Scola last year, then it wouldn't have been an issue, and both Scola and Batum would be wearing silver and black today.

Imagine that... :stirpot:

[tmtcsc]

Stupid, worthless article. We didn't draft him, end of story. And no, he would not start in front of Bowen this year. Leave it to Buck to offer up woulda, coulda, shoulda crap.

[Blackjack]

Good to see Buck Harvey still reads SpursTalk :lol

But I'd find it damn hard to believe Pop would bench Bowen for Batum. As good as Batum looks like he'll be down the line, Bowen would have to play more than two bad games to get benched after all he's done. Batum would be in the rotation but more likely taking Udoka's minutes than anyone else.

I tend to agree that Pop wouldn't bench Bowen for Batum, but if (and I don't think he is, and am praying he hasn't) Bowen's going the way of Avery?(different circumstance, but you can catch my drift)

I guess it's not inconceivable that a 19yr. old frenchman could supplant the vet.

[timaios]

Gist...

[Tully365]

Reports that night said the Spurs cheered when Batum was selected, because that meant George Hill had fallen to them. That's not accurate.
The Spurs were sincerely pleased to get Hill, and they still like him. But Hill plays behind Parker.

Given what Batum showed the Spurs on Friday, given another game or two, there's a chance Batum wouldn't play behind anyone in San Antonio.

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It's annoying that Harvey would state that they didn't cheer but not explain how he claims to know this.

It's also annoying that after one game, Batum is a superstar in the making. You'd think after watching basketball for many years, he'd be a little more sensible and let things develop before making monumental claims... remember when Harold Miner was the new Jordan, Lloyd Daniels was the new Magic, and Andrew Bogut was better than Chris Paul and Deron Williams? Remember when Loren Woods had a great summer league and was the next great shot blocking center in the NBA? Remember Keith Closs??

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It's annoying that Harvey would state that they didn't cheer but not explain how he claims to know this.

Yeah, I wondered about that too. I tried to do a search, but it keeps crapping out and then I have to wait 60 seconds to try again. :bang:bang:bang:bang:bang

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[Blackjack]

It's been reported in multiple stories about the Spurs cheering the pick, so he's either just rehashing, has insider knowledge, or was smart enough to call Ludden. (In which case McDonald could learn a thing from Buck:lol)

[Tully365]

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:lol I've gotten that one too!

[tlongII]

It seems as if Harvey is taking my P.O.V. and running with it. It's okay. I won't charge him for it.

[tlongII]

I think you have to be pretty gullible to believe the nonsense the Spurs are spreading about cheering when Batum was picked just before their pick. Unless cheering sounds like a loud collective groan...

[Tully365]

I think you have to be pretty gullible to believe the nonsense the Spurs are spreading about cheering when Batum was picked just before their pick. Unless cheering sounds like a loud collective groan...

It's hard to believe any of the Spurs' incredible successes of the last decade, because they are so far-reaching, but it is in fact all true. I can understand the envy.

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Not surprising that Tlong is stupid, but Buck should probably consult with the guys that report the news at his own paper.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA062708.4D.BKNmonroe.spurs.45117fe.html


Mike Monroe's Instant Analysis

Express-News staff writer Mike Monroe breaks down the Spurs' draft.

All you need to know about George Hill, the player the Spurs drafted in the first round of Thursday's NBA draft, is this: There was a celebration in the Spurs' draft night war room when the Houston Rockets made Frenchman Nicolas Batum the 25th selection of the first round, leaving Hill to the Spurs.

Anyone within a mile or two of the Spurs' practice facility, where the basketball operations staff gathered to make the picks, would have heard the groaning and cursing had the Rockets snatched the guard from Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis from the Spurs' draft night grasp.

Hill, you see, is no loaf of bread. The Spurs have a recent history of picking first-rounders they have no intention of signing for a season or two. Popovich likens this to baking these prospects in an oven to make sure they're ready for the NBA.

Hill, who recently turned 22, requires no additional heat. Popovich, a discerning gourmet, believes his newest player is a perfectly risen soufflé.

Unless you are a fan of small college basketball, you probably hadn't heard of Hill when NBA commissioner David Stern announced the Spurs had picked him. But Hill will get a chance to be point guard Tony Parker's backup, and right away.

The term “impact player” is overused each draft season. The Spurs haven't even hinted they had drafted in impact player for the past seven years. The last pick they believed capable of making an immediate difference: Parker, in 2001.

Now, Popovich promises that Hill will make the Spurs better next season.

[SenorSpur]

Good to see Buck Harvey still reads SpursTalk :lol

But I'd find it damn hard to believe Pop would bench Bowen for Batum. As good as Batum looks like he'll be down the line, Bowen would have to play more than two bad games to get benched after all he's done. Batum would be in the rotation but more likely taking Udoka's minutes than anyone else.

Methinks that you're underestimating how talented this kid is and just how much Bowen has declined.

[SenorSpur]

Not surprising that Tlong is stupid, but Buck should probably consult with the guys that report the news at his own paper.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA062708.4D.BKNmonroe.spurs.45117fe.html


Mike Monroe's Instant Analysis

Express-News staff writer Mike Monroe breaks down the Spurs' draft.

All you need to know about George Hill, the player the Spurs drafted in the first round of Thursday's NBA draft, is this: There was a celebration in the Spurs' draft night war room when the Houston Rockets made Frenchman Nicolas Batum the 25th selection of the first round, leaving Hill to the Spurs.

Anyone within a mile or two of the Spurs' practice facility, where the basketball operations staff gathered to make the picks, would have heard the groaning and cursing had the Rockets snatched the guard from Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis from the Spurs' draft night grasp.

Hill, you see, is no loaf of bread. The Spurs have a recent history of picking first-rounders they have no intention of signing for a season or two. Popovich likens this to baking these prospects in an oven to make sure they're ready for the NBA.

Hill, who recently turned 22, requires no additional heat. Popovich, a discerning gourmet, believes his newest player is a perfectly risen soufflé.

Unless you are a fan of small college basketball, you probably hadn't heard of Hill when NBA commissioner David Stern announced the Spurs had picked him. But Hill will get a chance to be point guard Tony Parker's backup, and right away.

The term “impact player” is overused each draft season. The Spurs haven't even hinted they had drafted in impact player for the past seven years. The last pick they believed capable of making an immediate difference: Parker, in 2001.

Now, Popovich promises that Hill will make the Spurs better next season.


From what we saw on Friday night, Batum also doesn't require any extra baking. Remember, much like Tony, he's been playing at the professional Euro level for some time.

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From what we saw on Friday night, Batum also doesn't require any extra baking. Remember, much like Tony, he's been playing at the professional Euro level for some time.

You won't get any argument from me on that point. The kid looks amazing, and I'd love to have him on the roster. It's too soon to say if I'd rather have him than Hill, but Hill's going to have to show me something.

The reason I posted the item is because there are reports that Pop didn't actually want Hill at that spot, and Buck said that the celebration in the war room thing was bullshit, but his own newspaper reported it as it happened. Again, if Buck knows something everyone else doesn't it seems like he'd actually explain it.

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Good to see Buck Harvey still reads SpursTalk :lol

But I'd find it damn hard to believe Pop would bench Bowen for Batum. As good as Batum looks like he'll be down the line, Bowen would have to play more than two bad games to get benched after all he's done. Batum would be in the rotation but more likely taking Udoka's minutes than anyone else.

The original French interview with Batum on draft night said that Pop told him that he'd get minutes in anticipation of taking over the spot within the next couple of years. If he were a Spur and were playing that well I'd consider starting him at the 4 until Oberto comes back.

[tlongII]

Not surprising that Tlong is stupid, but Buck should probably consult with the guys that report the news at his own paper.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA062708.4D.BKNmonroe.spurs.45117fe.html


Mike Monroe's Instant Analysis

Express-News staff writer Mike Monroe breaks down the Spurs' draft.

All you need to know about George Hill, the player the Spurs drafted in the first round of Thursday's NBA draft, is this: There was a celebration in the Spurs' draft night war room when the Houston Rockets made Frenchman Nicolas Batum the 25th selection of the first round, leaving Hill to the Spurs.

Anyone within a mile or two of the Spurs' practice facility, where the basketball operations staff gathered to make the picks, would have heard the groaning and cursing had the Rockets snatched the guard from Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis from the Spurs' draft night grasp.

Hill, you see, is no loaf of bread. The Spurs have a recent history of picking first-rounders they have no intention of signing for a season or two. Popovich likens this to baking these prospects in an oven to make sure they're ready for the NBA.

Hill, who recently turned 22, requires no additional heat. Popovich, a discerning gourmet, believes his newest player is a perfectly risen soufflé.

Unless you are a fan of small college basketball, you probably hadn't heard of Hill when NBA commissioner David Stern announced the Spurs had picked him. But Hill will get a chance to be point guard Tony Parker's backup, and right away.

The term “impact player” is overused each draft season. The Spurs haven't even hinted they had drafted in impact player for the past seven years. The last pick they believed capable of making an immediate difference: Parker, in 2001.

Now, Popovich promises that Hill will make the Spurs better next season.


:lol What do you think that proves???

They don't allow reporters in the war room. I'm sure they told the reporter that and it appears he may have been gullible enough to believe it.

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:lol What do you think that proves???
To you? Facts have never stopped you before. Why should they now? :lol How oddly you that you immediately believe a columnist that says it's not true but dismiss the actual news report.

[hater]

this is stupid. Bowen will get tons of minutes vs. teams with a great perimeter player. LA, Boston, NO, etc, etc.

regardless of who we drafted. we just happened to play 2 teams with no great perimeter players the first 2 games.

[tlongII]

To you? Facts have never stopped you before. Why should they now? :lol How oddly you that you immediately believe a columnist that says it's not true but dismiss the actual news report.

I believed it wasn't true long before I ever read Harvey's column. Think about it. You're going to believe the Spurs' warroom started cheering when a projected backup point guard from a small school whom every other team felt was a 2nd round pick fell to them? Really?? I mean REALLY? :lmao

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I believed it wasn't true long before I ever read Harvey's column. Think about it. You're going to believe the Spurs' warroom started cheering when a projected backup point guard from a small school whom every other team felt was a 2nd round pick fell to them? Really?? I mean REALLY? :lmao

Since you suggest that Mike Monroe was told by multiple members of the Spurs something that's completely untrue, then that means the Spurs organization were conspiring to get that story out. Why would the Spurs go to so much work to lie about it when they've never lied about it before? They didn't owe Hill anything, and he can read the interview with Batum, so it's not like the Spurs are hiding anything. What do they have to gain?

They admitted they wanted Daequan Cook instead of Splitter. Why wouldn't they say they'd like to have had Batum? Was George Hill lying when he said the Spurs told him they'd take him if he were there? That certainly fits with the other facts. Again, they have no reason to make it up. You have every reason to doubt it because you've been bad mouthing the pick from the beginning, and you now have an interest in talking it down whenever you can. Really, nobody else is that invested. I mean REALLY!

[The Truth #6]

I don't understand the focus on Buck having to prove how he claims to know the FO didn't cheer in the war room.

We really don't know either way, but if people are going to be skeptical of Buck, we might as well be just as skeptical of the majority of Spurs articles, which many of us probably are to various degrees depending on the circumstance. Having said that, I'd still trust Buck over McDonald or anyone else at the Express but that's me, I realize many people can't stand Buck.

It seems like a stretch that the Spurs would go to all those steps regarding Batum, and even tell him they were going to draft him, all as a ruse to draft a relative unknown in Hill. Who knows, they probably could have done a better job of hiding their intentions by telling every team in the league that they were going to draft Batum. The non-release of his medical records probably fooled the morons for GMs (which are many) but it obviously didn't fool Pritchard.

Anyway, it sucks we lost out on Batum but I'm not sure what the excuse is for letting Gist go away after he proved to be a unexpected gem in Summer league. That only compounded the pain of not drafting an athletic 3/small 4. I guess Gist wasn't cultured enough. Joking?

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I don't understand the focus on Buck having to prove how he claims to know the FO didn't cheer in the war room.

We really don't know either way, but if people are going to be skeptical of Buck, we might as well be just as skeptical of the majority of Spurs articles, which many of us probably are to various degrees depending on the circumstance. Having said that, I'd still trust Buck over McDonald or anyone else at the Express but that's me, I realize many people can't stand Buck.

I like Buck a lot, but there's a difference between someone who reports news and someone who writes columns. A reporter is supposed to verify a story with multiple sources, and a columnist can basically say whatever he wants. If Buck knows that the story's false, then he should probably explain how he knows that instead of just throwing his own news department under the bus. It has nothign to do with "proving" anything; if the story's wrong, you and I and all the other Spurs fans would love to hear about it, but instead it's a throwaway snippet that just serves as a device for him to write the column about how Batum would be starting if he were here, which we know is factually bullshit because Batum reported that he'd compete for the job down the road.

Again, I like Buck, but the column is lazy. It's like half the people at that paper are going through the motions. I wouldn't be surprised of Monroe made the story up, but I'm damn sure not going to believe Buck in a column where he gets so much wrong.

[SenorSpur]

The original French interview with Batum on draft night said that Pop told him that he'd get minutes in anticipation of taking over the spot within the next couple of years. If he were a Spur and were playing that well I'd consider starting him at the 4 until Oberto comes back.

Now I'm really getting sick to my stomach. As far as I'm concerned, this is a devastating blow to a roster that has no transition plan to offset the decline of one of the best perimeter defenders in NBA history.

If he were a Spurs and playing that well, I'd sit Oberto's ass. I just don't feel there should be any obligation to continue force-feeding minuted to players, whose skills are in decline - especially when there is a talented backup waiting in the wings. Unfortunately, the Spurs don't have that problem because there is no talented backup SF.

I'm going to go throw up now.

[Ice009]

Settle down ya'll. Forget about Batum. He's not on the team. I like George Hill. I love defense and George has shown that he has the tools to be an awesome defender. I hope George is ready to go soon and Pop gives him minutes.

[spurscenter]

Did the Spurs Assistant GM tip off the Rockets or what?

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Did the Spurs Assistant GM tip off the Rockets or what?

It's possible, but it's more likely that Pritchard saw through the smokescreen the Spurs put up. When Batum didn't work out for anyone after he worked out for the Spurs, Batum's camp didn't release his medical records to anyone but the Spurs, and then the Spurs started publicly shopping pick 26, KP might have realized that the Spurs were convinced that Batum was the three they'd been looking for and figured it was worth buying the pick to steal him. If so, he certainly seems to have been right.

[urunobili]

this is stupid. Bowen will get tons of minutes vs. teams with a great perimeter player. LA, Boston, NO, etc, etc.

regardless of who we drafted. we just happened to play 2 teams with no great perimeter players the first 2 games.

yeah right Roy is not great....

[mrspurs]

Good to see Buck Harvey still reads SpursTalk :lol

But I'd find it damn hard to believe Pop would bench Bowen for Batum. As good as Batum looks like he'll be down the line, Bowen would have to play more than two bad games to get benched after all he's done. Batum would be in the rotation but more likely taking Udoka's minutes than anyone else.

No joke. I dont see Ime as a backup as well. Ime is a 3rd option off my bench. Roger is showing just how good Ime is. In just 2 games. And Ime has been a spur how long? Fact is Ime isnt gonna get any better. He may hit a shot here or there. But truth is he isnt fast enough to guard the players his body is fit to. So even on the defensive end he is nothing compared to what we are used to seeing. From Sean into Bruce into Ime. If some fans believe Ime was gonna back up Bruce then take over boy they best stay fans.

[spurscenter]

It's possible, but it's more likely that Pritchard saw through the smokescreen the Spurs put up. When Batum didn't work out for anyone after he worked out for the Spurs, Batum's camp didn't release his medical records to anyone but the Spurs, and then the Spurs started publicly shopping pick 26, KP might have realized that the Spurs were convinced that Batum was the three they'd been looking for and figured it was worth buying the pick to steal him. If so, he certainly seems to have been right.


seems right.


Always though that Asst GM we hired from the Rockets is still talking to Rockets GM on the down low, second cell phone type of communication.

Since he got here, we seen everything from B. Barry, L. Scola, Batum, u name it.

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I've had my doubts about him as well, but the Rockets wouldn't have picked Batum if the Blazers hadn't bought the pick.

[boutons_]

I expect Bruce's age is causing him to start slow this year, not really in game shape, yet, and probably not for a couple more weeks, maybe December.

Then factor in the fact that Pop plays a lot with the lineup in Nov/Dec, and Bruce may not see consistent mintues to obtain and retain game shape until after January.

[Mr. Body]

Now I'm really getting sick to my stomach. As far as I'm concerned, this is a devastating blow to a roster that has no transition plan to offset the decline of one of the best perimeter defenders in NBA history.

If he were a Spurs and playing that well, I'd sit Oberto's ass. I just don't feel there should be any obligation to continue force-feeding minuted to players, whose skills are in decline - especially when there is a talented backup waiting in the wings. Unfortunately, the Spurs don't have that problem because there is no talented backup SF.

I'm going to go throw up now.

Imagine this team, even with Manu down, with the crap bench we have including these three players:

1. Luis Scola
2. Tiago Splitter
3. Nicholas Batum

Now, not every one of these is their fault, but they were each a mis-play. It's stupid. That team has the versatility to beat the best teams in the league; the current team does not.

[picnroll]

Funny. As I recall most of the praying during the draft as Spurs pick was coming up and bitching when the Spurs took Hill was about getting Chalmers, Douglas-Roberts, Walker.

According to Hill Spurs gave him a promise. They worked him out several times and had followed him for a long time. The Spurs MO isn't to make a promise to a player and not follow through. Pop was gushing afterwards like no player since Parker. No reason to believe he wasn't their target. He was looking damn good in pre-season before the injury and he fills two needs, back-up PG and lock down defender on the tough small like Paul, Deron Williams, Nash. Batum looks great, would have been outstanding to get both he and Hill but like was pointed out you can't outspend the Blazers.

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To my recollection, Pop didn't gush about Parker like he has about Hill. I hope he holds Hill to the same standard he did for Parker and Manu. If he doesn't bark at Hill when he fucks up, it's time to worry.

[picnroll]

Pop does most of his barking for play at the defensive end and it looked like he wasn't going to have much to bark at Hill for from that end of the court.

[lotr1trekkie]

We have George Hill. Let's see who in more valuable by the end of this season.

[wildbill2u]

The interesting thing about this story isn't that we missed Batum or that he might have been playing in place of Bowen.

No, it's about the sneaky backdoor manuvering by CIA Pop to mislead the rest of the GMS and get Batum to drop after getting the youngster and his agent to work with Pop in the deception. Smart moves but Pritchard was on to POp and his ways and figured out a way to outfox the fox.

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Pop does most of his barking for play at the defensive end and it looked like he wasn't going to have much to bark at Hill for from that end of the court.

I assure you that Hill's going to be in the wrong place more than once during his rookie season. :)

[DMX7]

Good to see Buck Harvey still reads SpursTalk :lol

But I'd find it damn hard to believe Pop would bench Bowen for Batum. As good as Batum looks like he'll be down the line, Bowen would have to play more than two bad games to get benched after all he's done. Batum would be in the rotation but more likely taking Udoka's minutes than anyone else.

It's not that Bowen played bad, it's that he doesn't have the potential to go out there and score 10+ points on his own without other people creating everything for him.

[SenorSpur]

The interesting thing about this story isn't that we missed Batum or that he might have been playing in place of Bowen.

No, it's about the sneaky backdoor manuvering by CIA Pop to mislead the rest of the GMS and get Batum to drop after getting the youngster and his agent to work with Pop in the deception. Smart moves but Pritchard was on to POp and his ways and figured out a way to outfox the fox.

I curse Pritchard for hoarding all the talent. I wish him and his franchise a nice, long banishment in eternal lottery hell. (I'm just being petty because there are about 2 of their players that I'd like to have on our team) :lol

[spurscenter]

The interesting thing about this story isn't that we missed Batum or that he might have been playing in place of Bowen.

No, it's about the sneaky backdoor manuvering by CIA Pop to mislead the rest of the GMS and get Batum to drop after getting the youngster and his agent to work with Pop in the deception. Smart moves but Pritchard was on to POp and his ways and figured out a way to outfox the fox.



we might have a mole in the spurs org.