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manufor3
11-02-2008, 12:41 PM
A longtime friend of New York's Stephon Marbury says that the point guard's pride has been shattered by his bench role with the team.

"His pride is hurt," says Rob Johnson, a Queens basketball consultant and friend of Marbury.

"I've known Steph since he was 10 years old and I can tell he's really hurt by this. He won't cause problems. He wants to get on with his business and hopefully play for another team next year. They should just let him go."

Marbury's family is proud of the way he has handled the difficult situation.

"Stephon has been so professional with this whole thing," says Moses Marbury, Stephon's younger brother. "I'm so proud of him, the way he's handling it, being smooth about it. He isn't saying the things that the Stephon of old would have said."

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55215/20081102/friend_marburys_pride_is_hurt/

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-02-2008, 12:43 PM
A longtime friend of New York's Stephon Marbury says that the point guard's pride has been shattered by his bench role with the team.

"His pride is hurt," says Rob Johnson, a Queens basketball consultant and friend of Marbury.

"I've known Steph since he was 10 years old and I can tell he's really hurt by this. He won't cause problems. He wants to get on with his business and hopefully play for another team next year. They should just let him go."

Marbury's family is proud of the way he has handled the difficult situation.

"Stephon has been so professional with this whole thing," says Moses Marbury, Stephon's younger brother. "I'm so proud of him, the way he's handling it, being smooth about it. He isn't saying the things that the Stephon of old would have said."

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55215/20081102/friend_marburys_pride_is_hurt/

His brother play in Greece and he say this guy is a real asshole.

JamStone
11-02-2008, 12:50 PM
Marbury's family is proud of the way he has handled the difficult situation.

"Stephon has been so professional with this whole thing," says Moses Marbury, Stephon's younger brother. "I'm so proud of him, the way he's handling it, being smooth about it. He isn't saying the things that the Stephon of old would have said."

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55215/20081102/friend_marburys_pride_is_hurt/

Maybe if he was professional his first 3 1/2 seasons with the Knicks, he wouldn't be in this position.

The Franchise
11-02-2008, 12:55 PM
Maybe this can be a wakeup call. Hopefully he can finally figure out that he is part of a team and accept a supporting role.

The Franchise
11-02-2008, 01:07 PM
Not...

Miracles are possible. :lol

Obstructed_View
11-02-2008, 01:18 PM
Maybe if he was professional his first 14 seasons with the NBA, he wouldn't be in this position.

Fix 1


Maybe if he hadn't said "They can cut me so long as they pay me my money", he wouldn't be in this position.

Fix 2

Indazone
11-02-2008, 01:29 PM
This message approved by the Send Marbury to Los Angeles Lakers Committe.

Implosion Guaranteed.

Spur-Addict
11-02-2008, 02:13 PM
This message approved by the Send Marbury to Los Angeles Lakers Committe.

Implosion Guaranteed.

I actually would want him anywhere but L.A, Boston and Houston.

Allanon
11-02-2008, 02:56 PM
I actually would want him anywhere but L.A, Boston and Houston.

Yup, he's talented for sure and would probably help his next team just to "get back" at the Knicks.

Sending him to a contending team would wake him up and he'll go out of his way to be a model citizen for at least a year.

Killakobe81
11-02-2008, 03:43 PM
Doesnt fit with LA maybe scary in houston but I WOULD LOVE IT IF HOUSTON takes that GAMBLE!!!

Indazone
11-02-2008, 04:25 PM
Oh hell naw! We already got one headcase on our team as Artest. He's a wildcard for sure but I think he'll pan out well for the Rockets this year. Marbury is a different kind of headcase. If you're so high on him, then test him out on the Spurs.

manufor3
11-02-2008, 06:58 PM
Oh hell naw! We already got one headcase on our team as Artest. He's a wildcard for sure but I think he'll pan out well for the Rockets this year. Marbury is a different kind of headcase. If you're so high on him, then test him out on the Spurs.

no way man

DaDakota
11-02-2008, 07:57 PM
We will take him in Houston if he is released.

DD

Kai
11-02-2008, 08:15 PM
New Orleans could use him to replace Mike James. That's the only scenario that would really scare me.

duncan228
11-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Report: D'Antoni Wants Marbury Waived (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55219/20081102/report_dantoni_wants_marbury_waived/)

Knicks' coach Mike D'Antoni reportedly wants to see point guard Stephon Marbury waived.

The New York Post reported early Sunday that D'Antoni wants the Knicks to cut ties with the controversial point guard.

The Knicks are responsible for Marbury's $21.9 million salary this season. If the club waives him, Marbury will likely clear waivers and become a free agent.

nkdlunch
11-02-2008, 08:30 PM
that's actually a good thing for him because his pride was his worst quality

boutons_
11-02-2008, 10:30 PM
his pride and ego and $22M salary are much, much bigger than his game.

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November 2, 2008
On His Own, Marbury Has Limited Options

By HOWARD BECK (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/howard_beck/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

Place an opponent in his path, and Stephon Marbury (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/stephon_marbury/index.html?inline=nyt-per) will skip past him. Place an entire defense in front of him, and Marbury will find a seam to the basket. From his earliest days as a basketball prodigy on Coney Island, Marbury has been able to dribble, pass or shoot his way out of any problem on the court.

Yet Marbury finds his career at a crossroads, and he is missing the most vital tool in a troubled athlete’s arsenal: an agent. Marbury has not employed one in eight years, and it is probably hurting his ability to break free of the Knicks (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/probasketball/nationalbasketballassociation/newyorkknicks/index.html?inline=nyt-org) and start fresh. That is, at least, the view of a number of agents surveyed last week. And it is shared by many N.B.A. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_basketball_association/index.html?inline=nyt-org) team executives, who are used to resolving player conflicts by working through their paid advocates.

“You need someone who is looking out for your interests but is also assessing your situation on multiple levels, from your perspective,” said Lon Babby, a Washington-based N.B.A. agent, whose clients include Tim Duncan (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/tim_duncan/index.html?inline=nyt-per), Grant Hill (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/grant_hill/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and Ray Allen. “Sometimes you lose the forest for the trees if you don’t have someone who can step back and analyze things with some distance and perspective.”

Babby is not privy to Marbury’s situation and was speaking generally about the business. But he is well versed in the sort of player-team standoff that threatens Marbury’s career.

The Knicks no longer want Marbury around. Coach Mike D’Antoni (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/d/mike_dantoni/index.html?inline=nyt-per) placed him on the inactive list Friday night, and Marbury has probably played his last game in a Knicks uniform. Yet he remains on the roster because of a practically untradeable contract and his refusal to negotiate a buyout. Marbury is set to earn $21.9 million this season, the last year of his deal.

Such stalemates are not uncommon in the N.B.A. The typical solution has the parties agree to a slightly reduced payout, on the premise that the player will recoup the loss when he signs with another team. Often, the player’s agent has suitors lined up, and concrete offers in hand.

But Marbury has not had a certified player agent since June 2000, when he parted ways with David Falk (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/david_falk/index.html?inline=nyt-per). (Falk said he resigned; Marbury said he fired him.) Marbury has a rocky history with agents. He fired his first agent, Eric Fleisher, in 1998.

Marbury represented himself when he signed his last contract, a four-year, $76 million extension with the Phoenix Suns (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/probasketball/nationalbasketballassociation/phoenixsuns/index.html?inline=nyt-org). That deal was consummated in October 2003, three months before the Suns traded him to the Knicks.

Because the Suns offered Marbury the maximum allowed under N.B.A. rules, the talks were fairly simple.

“There wasn’t no need for me to use an agent,” Marbury said last week. “There wasn’t no need for me to give somebody 4 percent or 3 percent of my money when I can go do the same thing that they would go do.”

Asked if he needed an agent now, to help him find a new team, Marbury said: “I don’t want to go nowhere. I want to stay right here.”
He declined to say whether anyone else was advising him and would not answer other questions on the matter.

It is rare for players to represent themselves. Only eight current N.B.A. players are without an agent, according to a database compiled by DraftExpress.com (http://www.draftexpress.com/). The group includes Gilbert Arenas, who negotiated his contract with the Washington Wizards (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/probasketball/nationalbasketballassociation/washingtonwizards/index.html?inline=nyt-org) last summer.
Money matters aside, Marbury needs representation for some practical reasons, said several agents, speaking anonymously because Marbury is not their client. The most basic reason is this: Teams that want to sign Marbury have no one to call to gauge his interest.

A good agent would know which teams need a veteran point guard and what they are willing to pay. With the Knicks’ permission, the agent could solicit tentative offers before negotiating a buyout — or even attempt to broker a trade.

Perhaps most critically, an agent could convince Marbury that accepting less money now is in his best interest because he can recoup the loss next summer as a free agent. In general, players are poor judges of their value, sometimes overestimating and sometimes underestimating it. Two agents invoked the adage that a man who represents himself has a fool for a client.

“He’s trying to answer all the questions for himself, and he has no sounding board,” a West Coast-based agent said.

If Marbury stands firm, refuses a buyout and sits on the bench all season, his market value can only decline, the agents said. Marbury turns 32 in February. He has not played a full season since 2004-5. And he has a history of clashing with coaches and teammates.
“You tell him there’s no future in New York for you,” an East Coast-based agent said. “You have two choices: You can buy out of the contract and go somewhere else and get a fresh start, or you can be stubborn and sit at home and tell people how great you were in the ’90s.”

The absence of a paid advocate certainly hurt Marbury in past skirmishes with Knicks management. Last year, Marbury abandoned the team during a trip after Isiah Thomas (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/t/isiah_thomas/index.html?inline=nyt-per), then the coach, threatened to bench him. Marbury was docked one game’s pay. He filed a grievance with the help of the players union, claiming that Thomas gave him permission to leave.

An agent might have advised Marbury to stay put while trying to resolve the dispute. A more aggressive agent might have immediately demanded a trade or a buyout.

Agents also advise players on personal finance, business investments, charity work and medical issues. Most have strong relationships with general managers and know how to sell them a difficult player. Agents also help make their clients’ cases to the news media.
More than anything, an agent serves as a slightly detached adviser, who can keep a player focused on the bigger picture. But the advice is valuable only if the player listens.

“Sometimes,” the East Coast agent said, “you have to tell the client, ‘Wake up and smell the coffee.’ ”

TDMVPDPOY
11-02-2008, 11:19 PM
marbs should goto orlando....they need a real pg imo who can feed howard down low

angelbelow
11-02-2008, 11:27 PM
awwwwwww

m33p0
11-03-2008, 02:25 AM
Falk said he resigned; Marbury said he fired him.familiar theme.