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duncan228
11-03-2008, 12:38 PM
New Spurs executive not waiting for fiscal rebound (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2008/11/03/story2.html?b=1225688400^1725404&page=1)
San Antonio Business Journal
by W. Scott Bailey

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell informed a gathering of San Antonio business leaders recently that his league would not be immune to the ills of a national economic crisis. That revelation all but ensured that the NBA would launch its 2008-09 season with similar uncertainties.

The challenge has not been lost on Frank Miceli, the newly hired senior vice president of marketing for the San Antonio Spurs. He says the Spurs are going to have to step outside the comfort zone of familiarity and be more creative in their effort to score more fans.

The nation’s economic problems have already impacted the NBA. League Commissioner David Stern says the NBA is trimming roughly 9 percent of its front office staff.

There are also concerns about a leaguewide decline in new season ticket sales and renewals. In Sacramento, for example, where the NBA’s Kings have long enjoyed a large and loyal fan base, the team’s season ticket base has reportedly dropped to roughly 6,000.

The Spurs say they expect their season ticket count will wind up in the 10,000 to 12,000 range. And while a team official says the Spurs have signed up more than 1,400 new season ticket holders for 2008-09, that same official says a larger number of fans than in past years has canceled their season tickets.

Miceli arrived in San Antonio from Philadelphia only days before the Spurs tipped off their regular season at home against the Phoenix Suns on Oct. 29. He takes on the task of trying to fill seats for basketball games at a time when economic uncertainties threaten to further impact consumer earning and spending in San Antonio and across the U.S.

Miceli acknowledges that there is room for improvement and the need to be proactive in selling San Antonio on the Spurs at a time when sellouts are less of a guarantee than in years past.

“Right now, I’m in heavy assessment mode — on all levels,” Miceli explains.

That assessment, he says, will include a good, hard look at staff interaction, organizational strategies and the total in-game and even post-game experience fans are getting in San Antonio.

Value added

The NBA was already dealing with some attendance concerns last season. Of the league’s 30 teams, 15 saw their turnstile numbers decline in 2007-08 compared to the previous season. Those 15 teams combined to draw 870,000-plus fewer fans last season than in 2006-07.

The Spurs were one of those 15 teams that saw attendance dip last season. San Antonio ranked 9th in the NBA in attendance in 2007-08 and 13th last season. A number of NBA teams are addressing attendance concerns with discounted or complimentary tickets.

The Indiana Pacers threw in free tickets to pre-season games this fall as a perk for season ticket holders.

In New Jersey, the Nets have offered season ticket purchasers an opportunity to put off payments until early next year. The team is also reportedly delaying construction of a new arena in Brooklyn because of the financial uncertainties.

The Charlotte Bobcats are marketing a six-game “Tipoff” ticket package. The offer includes complimentary tickets to the team’s home opener against Miami.

Ten times this season, the Dallas Mavericks are discounting the price of their least expensive seats from $9 to $2.

Miceli says teams need to come up with more bang for the buck. He says the Spurs will explore ways to give fans something extra.

For starters, the Spurs are staging a series of free post-game concerts on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays featuring local and regional acts.

“In this business, because we rely so much on discretionary income, that value proposition just becomes a little more important when the economy takes a dip,” Miceli says.

Spurs Sports & Entertainment President Rick Pych says Miceli has the track record to step in and have a real impact on the organization’s flagship franchise.

“Frank is a very highly regarded and accomplished leader in the sports and entertainment industry,” says Pych adds.

Sky is falling

The NFL’s Goodell says professional sports are “absolutely not” immune to the economic crisis.

“We are impacted,” he says. “We need to look at how we manage our business just like everyone else.

“We all are feeling the pinch, some more than others,” Goodell adds. “It’s something we need to be very sensitive to. We want to come through this and be stronger at the other end of the tunnel.”

Miceli agrees.

“I’m walking into an incredible organization that has built something pretty special,” he says. “But maybe we are a diamond that needs to be polished a little bit more.”

Says Miceli, “Maybe we’ve been a victim of our own success and people are expecting the same thing. We’ve got to deliver something different.”

One thing Miceli would like to deliver is a game plan that helps grow the Spurs’ television and arena audiences.

“What are we not doing to get more people? Finding that out is certainly a top priority,” Miceli says, adding, “Can we do a better job in the Hispanic market? Perhaps.”

What Miceli doesn’t want to see is fan erosion, a challenge nearly every team faces at some point. Such erosion could be compounded by the ongoing economic uncertainties.

“The challenge right now is pretty similar across the country in any sport and any business,” Miceli says. “It’s the economy. If enough people say the sky is falling, then the sky must be falling. I think you have to deal with that. It’s still about discretionary income.”

Miceli says his immediate game plan is simple.

“We have to be smart,” he says. “We have to look at everything. We have to be open to new ideas.”

leemajors
11-03-2008, 12:40 PM
i hate seeing that last name, being an Astro fan - Dan "The Missle" Miceli.

J-Rock6X
11-03-2008, 12:51 PM
It doesn't help that dipshit (David Stern) moved the Sonics (Thunder) into the smallest market in any sport! Come on, Oklahoma?@!

ORION
11-03-2008, 02:07 PM
They need to hire Silver Strippers instead of Silver Dancers

tmtcsc
11-03-2008, 02:29 PM
How about NOT increasing ticket prices like greedy fools ?

How about not charging $ 4 for a bottle of water or $ 6.75 for a bottle of beer ?

How about NOT charging $ 15 to $ 20 to park at the arena ?

How about having some respect for repeat season ticket holders ? Some kind of cap on ticket price increases ?

How about allowing Season Ticket holders first crack at getting additional playoff tickets first ?

It's a racket and I'm guilty for still playing the game. Maybe my last year on principle alone. Entertainment is not worth the $ 145 per seat anymore. That's just crazy.

ChumpDumper
11-03-2008, 02:36 PM
It doesn't help that dipshit (David Stern) moved the Sonics (Thunder) into the smallest market in any sport! Come on, Oklahoma?@!Memphis, Jacksonville, Buffalo, New Orleans and Green Bay are smaller markets.

dmac
11-03-2008, 03:17 PM
How about NOT increasing ticket prices like greedy fools ?

How about not charging $ 4 for a bottle of water or $ 6.75 for a bottle of beer ?

How about NOT charging $ 15 to $ 20 to park at the arena ?

How about having some respect for repeat season ticket holders ? Some kind of cap on ticket price increases ?

How about allowing Season Ticket holders first crack at getting additional playoff tickets first ?

It's a racket and I'm guilty for still playing the game. Maybe my last year on principle alone. Entertainment is not worth the $ 145 per seat anymore. That's just crazy.

Would you be willing to boycott a game? Nothing gets an owners attention faster than empty seats. If all the seats were empty one night, they might get the message.

Then the next night, go to the game, but don't buy any concessions.

Hit the owners in the pocketbooks.

squire
11-03-2008, 03:58 PM
How about NOT increasing ticket prices like greedy fools ?

How about not charging $ 4 for a bottle of water or $ 6.75 for a bottle of beer ?

How about NOT charging $ 15 to $ 20 to park at the arena ?

How about having some respect for repeat season ticket holders ? Some kind of cap on ticket price increases ?

How about allowing Season Ticket holders first crack at getting additional playoff tickets first ?

It's a racket and I'm guilty for still playing the game. Maybe my last year on principle alone. Entertainment is not worth the $ 145 per seat anymore. That's just crazy.

Woah Woah Woah Woah

This is laced with way too much sound logic.

squire
11-03-2008, 04:01 PM
Oh and tmtcsc, you're fired. Gather your belongings and we will escort you out of the building. Call me when you can figure out how to tap an exhausted Hispanic market's discretionary income.

SequSpur
11-03-2008, 04:07 PM
How about NOT increasing ticket prices like greedy fools ?

How about not charging $ 4 for a bottle of water or $ 6.75 for a bottle of beer ?

How about NOT charging $ 15 to $ 20 to park at the arena ?

How about having some respect for repeat season ticket holders ? Some kind of cap on ticket price increases ?

How about allowing Season Ticket holders first crack at getting additional playoff tickets first ?

It's a racket and I'm guilty for still playing the game. Maybe my last year on principle alone. Entertainment is not worth the $ 145 per seat anymore. That's just crazy.


You know, last year was the first year in probably 8 years that we didn't have at least a 25 game pack. It was fucking depressing watching the games at home. They already priced us out. We had to make a decision and the Spurs lost. So, we have a Spurs room to watch the games, it's not the same but it works.

Twisted_Dawg
11-03-2008, 04:21 PM
How about NOT increasing ticket prices like greedy fools ?

How about not charging $ 4 for a bottle of water or $ 6.75 for a bottle of beer ?

How about NOT charging $ 15 to $ 20 to park at the arena ?

How about having some respect for repeat season ticket holders ? Some kind of cap on ticket price increases ?

How about allowing Season Ticket holders first crack at getting additional playoff tickets first ?

It's a racket and I'm guilty for still playing the game. Maybe my last year on principle alone. Entertainment is not worth the $ 145 per seat anymore. That's just crazy.

.....And how about getting a General Manager with a fucking clue that does not give away young players like Scola to a divisional rival, loses draft picks to Euro league teams, fucks up drafts, then signs stiffs like Bonner, and a General Manager that has not had a decent draft in years?

How about all that before you raise ticket prices on a declining product?

Edit: I forgot to add that the owner should wake up, remove his head from his ass, and see that the men he has running his multi-million dollar business are running it in the ground.

T Park
11-03-2008, 04:34 PM
complaining about concessions is easy . But before you do figure out the cost of said product before you do.

IcemanCometh
11-03-2008, 05:36 PM
You don't always have to get the large tub tpark

zepn
11-03-2008, 05:46 PM
You can get a 40 pound burrito at Taco Bell for 79 cents so I think the Spurs should be able to sell a weenie on a bun for less than the price of a Space Shuttle.

(please ignore any possible exaggerations...)

tmtcsc
11-03-2008, 05:55 PM
When we were notified that the ticket prices were being raised on us by almost 40 %, we called the Sales office to bitch out loud and to see what perks we would now be getting. You know what they offered ? 1 F*cking Ipod Shuffle AND access to the club level eating area where the food is even more expensive and crappy. WE HAVE 4 F*ing seats at $ 145 each.

Unreal. The truth is, we re-upped on the tickets for pretty much having these seats for the playoffs. Those games and maybe about 8 out of 40 games per year come close to being worth the admission price. That's it.

So, most of the year we find ourselves either donating the tickets to the injured military vets, trying to sell them to ticket brokers or begging clients to use them so we can write them off for tax purposes.

Our seats should cost about $ 85 max. Instead, the face value or gate price is $ 175 !! AND they make you purchase the preseason games too.

What they will soon be needing is a PR person to explain why they are gouging loyal fans. Not making enough $$ ? Find a better business plan.

If you ever get a chance, go have some NY Pizza at Florios. They used to have a spot in the Alamodome I think. In any case, they charged what they felt were fair prices. Alamodome officials told them that they needed to raise their prices so that they weren't undercutting the other vendors.

Florio's refused and they were promptly to told to do it or leave. They left. They get plenty of my business today.

exstatic
11-03-2008, 07:49 PM
When we were notified that the ticket prices were being raised on us by almost 40 %, we called the Sales office to bitch out loud and to see what perks we would now be getting. You know what they offered ? 1 F*cking Ipod Shuffle AND access to the club level eating area where the food is even more expensive and crappy. WE HAVE 4 F*ing seats at $ 145 each.

Unreal. The truth is, we re-upped on the tickets for pretty much having these seats for the playoffs. Those games and maybe about 8 out of 40 games per year come close to being worth the admission price. That's it.

So, most of the year we find ourselves either donating the tickets to the injured military vets, trying to sell them to ticket brokers or begging clients to use them so we can write them off for tax purposes.

Our seats should cost about $ 85 max. Instead, the face value or gate price is $ 175 !! AND they make you purchase the preseason games too.

What they will soon be needing is a PR person to explain why they are gouging loyal fans. Not making enough $$ ? Find a better business plan.

If you ever get a chance, go have some NY Pizza at Florios. They used to have a spot in the Alamodome I think. In any case, they charged what they felt were fair prices. Alamodome officials told them that they needed to raise their prices so that they weren't undercutting the other vendors.

Florio's refused and they were promptly to told to do it or leave. They left. They get plenty of my business today.

The only person you should be mad at is you. You say it's a ripoff, yet you accepted their prices anyway.

SequSpur
11-03-2008, 09:05 PM
Obama has a plan.

squire
11-03-2008, 09:58 PM
complaining about concessions is easy . But before you do figure out the cost of said product before you do.

Tpark, said product is not anywhere humanly close to said price. A bottle of water doesn't yield 3.75 in the open market. A portion of ricos cheese and stale chips doesn't equate to the same.

Sports concessions are wildly out of control and it's certainly valid to point that out as sports heads are scratching their heads trying to figure out how to bring fans back/keep them. If they would bother slashing their profit margins to only 250%, they'd probably sell more - current economic conditions or otherwise.

Twisted_Dawg
11-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Obama has a plan.

Yes he does!!! In addition to paying your gas and mortgage, he is also going to buy your Spurs tickets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI&feature=email

xellos88330
11-03-2008, 10:06 PM
I do not have a problem paying for a ticket. Im a disabled vet and I am damn lucky if I can afford to buy a ticket, let alone 2 for my myself and my wife. This is the first year that I have missed the home opener in almost 7 years. I can afford the tickets, just cant afford the additional fees (concessions, parking, etc.). It is pretty damn hard to really enjoy yourself when you see all the stuff you cant get.

Indazone
11-03-2008, 10:08 PM
whoo hoo lower ticket prices and Kobe playing in Italy.

suitedkings
11-03-2008, 10:23 PM
How about NOT increasing ticket prices like greedy fools ?

How about not charging $ 4 for a bottle of water or $ 6.75 for a bottle of beer ?

How about NOT charging $ 15 to $ 20 to park at the arena ?

How about having some respect for repeat season ticket holders ? Some kind of cap on ticket price increases ?

How about allowing Season Ticket holders first crack at getting additional playoff tickets first ?

It's a racket and I'm guilty for still playing the game. Maybe my last year on principle alone. Entertainment is not worth the $ 145 per seat anymore. That's just crazy.

How about them even calling me to see if i wanted to renew my package. i've bought the same package two years in a row for my dad and for some reason they never called or emailed to see if i was interested in renewing.

tmtcsc
11-03-2008, 11:44 PM
The only person you should be mad at is you. You say it's a ripoff, yet you accepted their prices anyway.

If that wasn't bad enough, I also decided to pay those ripoff prices at the gas pump too.

Very, very mad at myself.

All my fault.

Bad.

Bad me.

Accepting price increases.

Should ride the bike or bus.

Mad at myself.

Only myself to blame.

:jack