Antonio McDyess

[Spurs Brazil]

Nuggets will waive him.

Do you think we have a chance to sign McDyess?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

he doesnt want to leave Detroit.

[MoSpur]

Doubt it. He seems like he wants to stay there. What position does he play? Center or PF?

[Spurs Brazil]

He'll have to wait 30 days to go back to Detroit like Brent last season doesn't he?

[DisAsTerBot]

he can play both bigman spots (although he's about 6'9", so not any bigger than KT).....what makes you think denver will waive him??? they only have nene and k. martin playing the big spots and we know how injury prone those two are

[rascal]

Maybe he will consider San Antonio and just doesn't want to go to Denver.
Should the spurs offer something to Denver for him? How long if any does he have to wait until he can get traded again?

Denver doesn't have to waive him if they can get something in return in a trade.

McDyess is not that great anymore but he would be another big that can be thrown in the mix. Can't be any worse than Thomas and Bonner are now and would be a better rebounder than both those guys..

[Spurs Brazil]

It remains to be seen how McDyess' status is resolved, as the 34-year-old reportedly has no interest in playing for any team other than the Pistons, meaning McDyess could choose to retire or negotiate a contract buyout with Denver.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3679931

[timvp]

I like the idea of McDyess. He'd fit perfectly next to Duncan. He can hit the perimeter jumper even better than KT and he's also a good defender. He's not much of a shotblocker but he could block more shots than KT or Oberto and the remnants of his athleticism make him much more able to intimidate around the rim.

I know he wants to go back to Detroit but if I'm the Spurs, I press to try to bring him in. This becomes increasingly true if KT continues to look washed up and Oberto's heart situation remains a question mark.

[ClingingMars]

if at all possible, GO GET 'EM!

-Mars

[Hemotivo]

Antonio is great, the spurs should go after him.

[duncan228]

Jeff McDonald: Could McDyess wind up a Spur (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/archives/2008/11/jeff_mcdonald_c_4.html)?

Just thinking (or typing) out loud here as news of the Allen Iverson-Chauncey Billups deal makes its way across the World Wide Web ...

From a Spurs' perspective, the interesting thing about this soon-to-be-consummated deal between Denver and Detroit is what happens with the third-most notable player in the swap: Antonio McDyess.

McDyess reportedly doesn't want to play anywhere other than Detroit, which could cause Denver to buy out his contract. If this happens, the Spurs would be remiss if they didn't at least try and convince McDyess to come to San Antonio.

In many ways, McDyess seems like the perfect Spur: He is tough, he is defensive-minded, he is smart and, to quote a memorable John McCain appearance on Saturday Night Live, he is "very, very old." He would also fill a perennial soft spot in the Spurs' lineup next to Tim Duncan.

But wait, you say. Part of the reason McDyess would even be available is because he doesn't want to play anywhere but Detroit. Last anybody checked, San Antonio was someplace other than Detroit. Why would he want to play here?

In San Antonio, as opposed to Denver, McDyess could conceivably have a chance to close his career with a shot at a championship. Maybe he could be convinced.

There are a lot of "ifs" to sort out, obviously. But if McDyess really does end up on the open market when the trade winds settle, he would make an intriguing option for the Spurs.

[Flux451]

I think we should definitely push for him. I have always thought he was somewhat of an unsung hero. Someone of Spurs quality.

[DMX7]

Is he injured or something. Seems crazy that they would let him go even if he is going to be bought out.

[timvp]

Nice find, duncan228 :tu

The Spurs still have some room under the lux tax threshold and they still have part of the MLE. It's going to be a hard sell because the Pistons basically resurrected his career but Pop is a pretty good salesman. I don't think the chances are too great but maybe if Pop can talk about a starting gig, a championship possibility and more money than the Pistons can offer, that could make it interesting for McDyess.

[timvp]

Is he injured or something. Seems crazy that they would let him go even if he is going to be bought out.It was part of the deal. The Pistons wouldn't do the trade if McDyess wasn't going to get cut.

Which is why McDyess has to be considered all but a lock to return to Detroit.

[SenorSpur]

McDyess is a consummate pro. I don't know how much he has left, but I would love to see the Spurs go after him. At this point, I would guess that he certainly has more life left than KT.

[tp2021]

Who do we waive?

[Pistons < Spurs]

There were plenty of comments in the offseason, whether true or just public sentiment I know not, that he would not be part of Joe D's big shakeup, because he'd rather retire than play anywhere else. So I don't really expect anyone to have a shot at him. He'll be back in a Pistons Uniform before you know it

[Pistons < Spurs]

While the key players in the trade remain Pistons guard Chauncey Billups and top reserve Antonio McDyess for Denver's Allen Iverson, McDyess' reluctance to be included in the deal may be resolved.

According to the Denver Post, the Nuggets plan to buy out the remainder of McDyess' contract. That would allow him to become a free agent, and presumably re-sign with Detroit for the veteran's minimum. That's why second-year center Cheikh Samb is expected to be included in the deal.

Andy Miller, the agent for both Billups and McDyess, said the 34-year-old McDyess was not happy when he learned of the trade. His client gave thought to several options, including retirement.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2008/11/pistons_to_trade_billups_mcdye.html

[SenorSpur]

There were plenty of comments in the offseason, whether true or just public sentiment I know not, that he would not be part of Joe D's big shakeup, because he'd rather retire than play anywhere else. So I don't really expect anyone to have a shot at him. He'll be back in a Pistons Uniform before you know it

I've always liked McDyess. I hope he does end up where he wants.

[MoSpur]

Wow. Good find. I would have never of thought of McDonald writing an article so soon, but things are kind of slow in the Spurs world right now.

[timvp]

Andy Miller, the agent for both Billups and McDyess, said the 34-year-old McDyess was not happy when he learned of the trade. His client gave thought to several options, including retirement.Nice. :smokin

It'll be interesting if Pop goes all out for him. He might not if he thinks Mahinmi (or Tolliver, I guess) will help this year or if he still really believes in Oberto and KT.

But to me, McDyess would fit really well on the Spurs and it would at worst give Pop another bigman option. If McDyess could play anywhere near as well as he played in the 2005 Finals against the Spurs, he'd be a steal.

[urunobili]

Nice. :smokin

It'll be interesting if Pop goes all out for him. He might not if he thinks Mahinmi (or Tolliver, I guess) will help this year or if he still really believes in Oberto and KT.

But to me, McDyess would fit really well on the Spurs and it would at worst give Pop another bigman option. If McDyess could play anywhere near as well as he played in the 2005 Finals against the Spurs, he'd be a steal.

timvp would you like McDyess better than Harrington if you could choose one to add to our roster?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

What is McDyess making this year? Would the Spurs be able to offer one of our bigs to Denver in a trade?

[timvp]

timvp would you like McDyess better than Harrington if you could choose one to add to our roster?Yeah, Harrington is a no defense playing chucker. He wouldn't be a good fit at all. If he doesn't feel at home in Nellie's offense, he'd be asking out of San Antonio by the time he stepped off the plane.


What is McDyess making this year? Would the Spurs be able to offer one of our bigs to Denver in a trade?He's being waived so he'll be a free agent. It appears as if the Spurs will be able to offer him more than the Pistons, for what that's worth.

[tp2021]

Who do we get rid of to make room for him?

[DPG21920]

That was the very first thing I said when this trade happened, you bunch of copiers! J/K, but he would be a nice fit and I would assume Farmer would be waived

[JamStone]

McDyess doesn't want to leave Detroit, but I think there's also an element that he doesn't want to play in Denver or in their style of play. If there were any other team Dice would be willing to play for, I think San Antonio would be it. Not saying he is willing, just that if he were, the Spurs would seem like such a place. And, he would appear to fit the Spurs pretty well. He does defend the center position pretty well for only being about 6'9" and 240, but then again, he hasn't had to consistently defend the likes of Shaq, Yao, Bynum, Oden, Jefferson on a night in, night out basis. Duncan would have to devote more time to the center position. But, McDyess will give great effort and will hit a high percentage of his open jump shots up to about 17-18 feet, especially at the free throw line extended areas and from the top of the key. And, from time to time, when his legs are fresh, he will have a monster rebounding game. He is pretty smart and won't demand a lot of touches.

He would fit well with the Spurs. But, from stuff I've read over the last couple summers when there were rumors that he might be traded, it's as if he's more willing to retire from the NBA altogether than to go play for another team. So, I believe it would take a great deal of convincing.

[Indazone]

Who do you get rid of for McDyess? C'mon. You can get rid of Tolliver/Bowen/Bonner/Thomas

McDyess makes perfect sense for the Spurs.

[benefactor]

Who do we get rid of to make room for him?
Farmer...no brainer.

[MacGyver]

Get him!
Him and Duncan were supposed to be the same types of players, but Dice had injuries in his career.

[DROB4EVER]

He will most likely return to Det but he would be a nice pick up, better than the crap we have up front.

[xtremesteven33]

I would love to have Mcdyess. Hed be a shoe in in the spurs system. Good defense. smart player, and even for his age, he could still throw it down from time to time.

If by chance the spurs were to get him i can see him stealing the starting spot. Imagine a frontcourt with Duncan and Mcdyess and Oberto/Thomas/Mahinmi coming off the bench.....that would put us ahead of the Lakers in my opinion.

[angelbelow]

go get him!!!!!!!!

[DROB4EVER]

Would be a nice pick up, guy is a good defender who can shoot and rebound.....a better KT if you ask me. Hope he would lissen to an offer. Pistons have no shot in the east so I think he may consider it.

[timtonymanu]

god, i hope we get him. we only had one successful deal this year with mason. and hill seems to be our only good draft pick. we need more luck and mcdyess is the perfect fit.

[T Park]

I'd put the chances at getting Antonio McDeyss the same as getting Corey Maggette.

[SenorSpur]

He was atually consitering the Spurs when he was a free agent a while back. But he decided to resign with the Pistons.

I didn't even realize he was on the Nuggets.

He was just included in the Billips-Iverson trade today.

[SequSpur]

do you guys ride the short bus to your computer? fuck.. mcdyess is a has been, he's washed up. how old do you want this team to be? shit...

you guys never cease to amaze me with your bullshit.

mcdyess sucks.

[xtremesteven33]

do you guys ride the short bus to your computer? fuck.. mcdyess is a has been, he's washed up. how old do you want this team to be? shit...

you guys never cease to amaze me with your bullshit.

mcdyess sucks.



you know something you suck

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

from NBA.com:


There is one sticking point to the deal, though. TNT analyst David Aldridge reports that McDyess does not want to go to Denver, and a source close to him says "he will not put on a Nuggets uniform" and may opt to retire.

Because of McDyess's objection, the Nuggets may waive the mandatory physical each player in a trade must take in order for the league to approve any deal. McDyess may be seeking a buyout of the remainder of his contract (two years, $13.6 million).

A source with knowledge of the trade discussions says that the Nuggets would be willing to discuss a buyout with McDyess, but only if he agrees to a "significant" amount less than the $13.6 million he's due through the end of the 2009-10 season.

According to the source, McDyess would have to give up about 50 percent of his salary, meaning he'd have to agree to take about $6.8 million of the $13.6 million he's due in any potential buyout if he wants to play elsewhere. Otherwise, the Nuggets will keep him on their roster regardless of whether he decides to report or not.

The Nuggets are extremely close to the luxury tax number of $71.1 million. Teams that spend more than that on player salaries have to pay a dollar for dollar penalty if they exceed the amount; every dollar spent above $71.1 million thus costs a team $2 in tax.


http://www.nba.com/2008/news/11/03/nuggets.pistons.trade.ap/index.html

[SequSpur]

I would love to have Mcdyess. Hed be a shoe in in the spurs system. Good defense. smart player, and even for his age, he could still throw it down from time to time.

If by chance the spurs were to get him i can see him stealing the starting spot. Imagine a frontcourt with Duncan and Mcdyess and Oberto/Thomas/Mahinmi coming off the bench.....that would put us ahead of the Lakers in my opinion.

do you still drive a trans am and wear a mullet? McDyess hasn't been good in at least 5 years.

Robert Horry > McDyess

[Ice009]

Can the Spurs offer him more money than Detroit?

If he takes a lower buyout I think he'd consider the Spurs over the Pistons if we could help him make back some of that money he'd lose from accepting the buyout.

I don't know about his game though. I didn't watch much of Detroit last season so I'm not sure about that. He was pretty good though the few seasons before last for the Pistons.

[tav1]

do you still drive a trans am and wear a mullet? McDyess hasn't been good in at least 5 years.

Robert Horry > McDyess

You're joking, right?

McDyess has been extremely serviceable over the last 4 or 5 seasons.

[ClingingMars]

i think Sequ has been out drinking, because McDyess is a solid player even this late in his career.

-Mars

[Obstructed_View]

You're joking, right?

McDyess has been extremely serviceable over the last 4 or 5 seasons.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/donotfeed2.jpg

[exstatic]

McDyess would be the best big next to Tim since David. He put up 8.8/8.1 in 31 minutes last year. If he's totally against a buyout, I say ship KT + filler (Bonner or Finley) after the trade restrictions for McD and the signing restrictions for Thomas expire.

[tomtom]

Hmm Thomas and scrub for Dyess sounds pretty reasonable, though I'd still like to see Finley around.

[Indazone]

McDyess would solve the gaping hole in the Spurs front line. Do whatever you can do to get him. Spurs guards are very very good so no weaknesses there.

[Slinkyman]

do you still drive a trans am and wear a mullet? McDyess hasn't been good in at least 5 years.

Robert Horry > McDyess

When's the last time Horry averaged 8 and 8? McDyess did that LAST YEAR

[dougp]

I've always wanted the Spurs to push for McDyess - he's my favorite non-Spurs reserve. He brings an incredible energy off the bench for someone his age/position.

[Indazone]

McDyess is still a good fantasy player to have on your team for rebounds. He scores pretty decent too.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This thread is useless, he's never gonna sign to the Spurs.

[galvatron3000]

McDyess has seen his best time go by, Spurs need younger and fresher bigs than he. His shot is not as reliable and rebounding has dropped. We need size or atleast quickness on the glass, preferrably quickness with size. Remember the Lakers have Bynum/Gasol/Odom

[SequSpur]

McDyess has seen his best time go by, Spurs need younger and fresher bigs than he. His shot is not as reliable and rebounding has dropped. We need size or atleast quickness on the glass, preferrably quickness with size. Remember the Lakers have Bynum/Gasol/Odom

exactly.

[Manufan909]

Hmm Thomas and scrub for Dyess sounds pretty reasonable, though I'd still like to see Finley around.

It wouldn't be a trade, he's an FA. I wonder who would get waived on the Spurs.

[peskypesky]

McDyess would be a great addition, no doubt, but why does anyone think he's at all a possibility?

[wisnub]

He would be a nice addition to Spurs, this should be a no brainer. But again Spurs I believe Spurs is too stingy if not somehow its economically not fit with Spurs salary cap or something fucking shit like that. Always short on money,if not somehow they dont wanna play here or sumthin. Dont tell me theres no room for him... Looking at how great we did in offseason somehow I get the feeling he will never be a Spurs..he might as well comeback to Detroit..i think he will going back to Pistons

[Indazone]

Waive Bonner and bring McDyess onboard.

[Mr. Body]

McDyess has seen his best time go by, Spurs need younger and fresher bigs than he. His shot is not as reliable and rebounding has dropped. We need size or atleast quickness on the glass, preferrably quickness with size. Remember the Lakers have Bynum/Gasol/Odom

Where are these players?

[exstatic]

McDyess has seen his best time go by, Spurs need younger and fresher bigs than he. His shot is not as reliable and rebounding has dropped. We need size or atleast quickness on the glass, preferrably quickness with size. Remember the Lakers have Bynum/Gasol/Odom

We're likely not going to find a younger player who can be effective in the playoffs, but we can trade one of our elders for a better, more effective elder.

[Manufan909]

Waive Bonner and bring McDyess onboard.

From the McDonald article recently posted, I'm assuming that either Desmon or Tolliver would be waived, since their contracts aren't guarenteed. Not sure who I would jettison, but I know who O_V would pick...:bking

[galvatron3000]

Where are these players?



my point....we don't need McDyess.


Another thing everyone seems to have forgotten is that McDyess is injury prone, we definatley don't need more of that

[Slinkyman]

my point....we don't need McDyess.


Another thing everyone seems to have forgotten is that McDyess is injury prone, we definatley don't need more of that

McDyess is injury prone yet he played in no less then 77 games in a season the past 4 seasons since joining Detroit. The only person to forget anything was you when you forgot to look up his recent stats.

[galvatron3000]

McDyess is injury prone yet he played in no less then 77 games in a season the past 4 seasons since joining Detroit. The only person to forget anything was you when you forgot to look up his recent stats.

Right, he has been durable over the years I guess just still remember his major injury. Regardless, I stand by my other statements. Younger. Not McDyess.


Wow, that injury really affected more than him, my outlook of him was skewed.

[Manufan909]

I'd take him. A solid big, compared to the rookies/mediocre bigs/bonner Tim has backing him up now? Do it.

[exstatic]

Right, he has been durable over the years I guess just still remember his major injury. Regardless, I stand by my other statements. Younger. Not McDyess.


Wow, that injury really affected more than him, my outlook of him was skewed.

We have "younger" players. They, nor any young players we're likely to pick up at this point, aren't likely to be effective in the playoffs.

BTW, whoever said he'd be a FA isn't likely to be correct. Denver has said if he won't do the buyout, they'll keep him on the roster anyway. That brings the trade scenario into play.

[galvatron3000]

I'm waiting on Ian and Tolliver to return which is why I say go young. You have Thomas and Oberto and Ian and Tolliver. Throw Bonner in for spot minutes. McDyess is a quality guy but I'd rather they didn't go that route and develop what they have along side the vets.


I'd like to see wait becomes available as the season goes on. The AI deal may have a trickle effect among the other teams in the East that could led to the Spurs getting a nice deal package worked out with someone. Patients, game 3 tomorrow night. Only the 3rd game for the Spurs, no panic. YET

[exstatic]

I'm waiting on Ian and Tolliver to return which is why I say go young. You have Thomas and Oberto and Ian and Tolliver. Throw Bonner in for spot minutes. McDyess is a quality guy but I'd rather they didn't go that route and develop what they have along side the vets.


I'd like to see wait becomes available as the season goes on. The AI deal may have a trickle effect among the other teams in the East that could led to the Spurs getting a nice deal package worked out with someone. Patients, game 3 tomorrow night. Only the 3rd game for the Spurs, no panic. YET

The Spurs can't make a KT+whatever for McD trade until Dec 15th at the earliest anyway, because they signed KT as a FA, and there is a waiting period. Waiting 6 weeks would hardly be a panic move.

Ian and Tolliver won't contribute this year in the playoffs. Bonner and Thomas are serviceable. I want some playoff experience, talent, and athleticism. That's pretty much McD to a 'T'.

[galvatron3000]

The Spurs can't make a KT+whatever for McD trade until Dec 15th at the earliest anyway, because they signed KT as a FA, and there is a waiting period. Waiting 6 weeks would hardly be a panic move.

Ian and Tolliver won't contribute this year in the playoffs. Bonner and Thomas are serviceable. I want some playoff experience, talent, and athleticism. That's pretty much McD to a 'T'.

KT? Kurt, I don't want them to trade Kurt at all. I like Kurt's toughness but he's needed for Shaq mostly or someone like that. McD is okay I guess but I want them to wait. We have vets like Kurt and Oberto with young guys like Ian and Tolliver on the rise (hopefully). I think Ian may surprise people, even in the playoffs. All he has to do is play off Tim and rebound.

[Killakobe81]

Cleveland would be a great fit a big man that can shoot so when Z went out they dont lose much ... I of course would want him on the Lakers and willing to gve up Mihm to get him ...but i dont think we have a shot ....

[Manufan909]

8.9pts and 7.4 rebounds in the 07-08 playoffs? Yes please.

[timvp]

I'll have to admit that I'm a bit of a McDyess homer. Going into Game 7 of the 2005 Finals, I said that the only good thing about a Pistons win would be that McDyess gets a ring. That guy is all heart, gives his all to win and you have to give him credit for recovering from that knee injury he suffered during his second stint with the Suns. It robbed him of a lot of his athleticism but most trainers agree that it was the worst injury that anyone has ever recovered from to return to play at a high level. IIRC, Marbury fell into his knee and he tore and broke just about everything in his knee.

Personality-wise and chemistry-wise, I think he'd be a perfect fit. It's still a long shot but it makes a lot of sense for the Spurs to go after him.

[AC#21_TD ERA]

Antonio has had his run and now he's done. We should be looking at getting younger, plus we're stocked up in big men department anyway. But if he want's to play back up PG role and do me a favour by ending Vaughn's career then im all for it. Otherwise :nope

[mountainballer]

Jesus. people doubt that the Spurs should go for Mcdyess if he hits the market?????
Spurs can only offer 2 millions per anyhow and if he in fact would come to SA for that money, it's a no-brainer and a steal. Spurs need frontcourt help, especially considering that KT doesn't look that good this season. currently he would be a huge upgrade over KT. even after all the injuries, he is much quicker and much more mobile than KT is today.
(he is also taller IMO. they are both listed at 6-9, but I would bet that Mcdyess is at least one inch taller, maybe more).
such an acquisition would also open some more options at trade deadline.

[mystargtr34]

Yeah, Harrington is a no defense playing chucker. He wouldn't be a good fit at all. If he doesn't feel at home in Nellie's offense, he'd be asking out of San Antonio by the time he stepped off the plane.

He's being waived so he'll be a free agent. It appears as if the Spurs will be able to offer him more than the Pistons, for what that's worth.

You think? I would rekon the Spurs would love to have him, hes a proven scorer, a career 36% 3-PT shooter which aint too bad at all, shoots a decent clip from the floor also for a 'chucker', which is pretty much what he is. And hes a good solid 6'9", obviously he has no defensive rep. but at least he would have the ability to go out on the perimeter and put a hand up on guys like D-West and Amare without them going by him like hes in mud.

Hed be an excellent 4th scoring option.

[benefactor]

Antonio has had his run and now he's done. We should be looking at getting younger, plus we're stocked up in big men department anyway. But if he want's to play back up PG role and do me a favour by ending Vaughn's career then im all for it. Otherwise :nope
This is like saying bananas are bananas...even if they are rotten.

[manufor3]

Who do we get rid of to make room for him?

bonner?:devil

[hater]

San Antonio McDyess

[Pistons < Spurs]

Denver Won't Buyout Antonio McDyess


Soon after the news broke that Chauncey Billups, Antonio McDyess and Cheikh Samb were headed to Denver in exchange for Allen Iverson, word started to trickle out that McDyess might retire than report

I can't say I was surprised -- I was in the Pistons' locker room after they were eliminated from the Conference Finals last year, and I saw McDyess fight back the tears while admitting to reporters that he already asked himself, "Hey, should I just retire?"

He added, "I don't want to be no ring-chaser, I don't want to be moving team to team being a ring-chaser. I can't do that. If I have to do that, I would definitely give it up. I mean, if I stay on this team another couple of years, we still have a chance, we just got to put our heart into it and do it."

That was May 30th. Four and a half months later, he's just been dealt to another team, albeit a familiar one -- McDyess was originally drafted by the Nuggets, and following a trade to the Suns he re-signed with the Nuggets in 1998 before his series of horrific knee injuries. He'll probably be greeted as a prodigal son more so than just a hired gun, but still, at this point in his career, is McDyess actually willing to make yet another move while going to a team no one considers a serious contender?

We'll have to wait and see, but for whatever it's worth, Rex Chapman, Denver's VP of player personnel, shot down the suggestion that the Nuggets will buy out McDyess' contract to allow him to re-sign with the Pistons after 30 days, a la Brent Barry's suspiciously convenient return to the Spurs last year.

This probably isn't the news Pistons fans want to hear right now, but it's worth pointing out that McDyess' situation is much different than Barry's was last year. For one, Barry had an expiring contract, and the Spurs had already paid half of what he was owed for the season. McDyess, on the other hand, is signed through 2010 and is owed more than $13.5 million over the life of his contract. For a team like Denver that's worried about pinching pennies, they're not going to just pay a guy (who just might be their best rebounder) over $13 million to let him sign with another team simply as a favor.

Sure, McDyess could force the issue and actually retire, but let's face it, as hard as it may be to move yet again, it's even harder to walk away from that kind of money. Maybe it's not how he wanted it to go down, but on the flip side, at least he's not going to some strange city; he knows the city of Denver and he's going there with Billups, by all accounts his best friend in the league.

I feel for McDyess -- on a team that's often criticized for playing things a little too cool, McDyess consistently left his heart on the floor -- but through no fault of his own (my guess is that it came down to his salary being just the right size), it wasn't meant to be.


http://nba.fanhouse.com/2008/11/03/denver-wont-buyout-antonio-mcdyess/

[timvp]

:depressed

[Indazone]

Yeah and McDyess can't be happy about it either.

[Manufan909]

This is like saying bananas are bananas...even if they are rotten.

Fuck yes. Let's see, we have Tim(98%), KT(55%), Bonner(65%) Fab/Tolliver/Ian(unknown), yeah you're right. The Spurs are stacked, with mediocrity... and Tim.

Too bad it sounds like he'd rather retire than not play in Detroit.:depressed

[DPG21920]

Smoke screen

[Manufan909]

Hope you're right. Fuck, I always liked him. Damn it. Scenes of lollipops and KT/Fab not starting were dancing in my head.:bang

[Mr. Body]

OK, this season's back to sucking.

[MoSpur]

money talks

[tp2021]

OK, this season's back to sucking.

2 games in, it is already a sucky season?
Then speculation about going after an old bigman saved it?
And then speculation about not being able to get him made it suck again?
You, Ghostwriter, and Sequ do nothing but complain.

[mexicanjunior]

If the Spurs could get him, it would be a great move. He would solidify what this team is lacking, an inside presence that can get tough rebounds. His mid range jumper is also VERY reliable...a perfect complement to Timmy's inside game. Too bad it sounds like he won't be available...

[Mr. Body]

2 games in, it is already a sucky season?
Then speculation about going after an old bigman saved it?
And then speculation about not being able to get him made it suck again?
You, Ghostwriter, and Sequ do nothing but complain.

Dude, I've been complaining since they traded Scola.

[tp2021]

:lol
Your sincerity is refreshing.

[Spurs Brazil]

Source: Nuggets Want McDyess To Play


Nov 04, 2008 5:07 PM EST
A source close to the Nuggets claims that the team would prefer that recently-acquired forward Antonio McDyess play, but they are also willing to buy out his contract.

McDyess is due $6.8 million this season and the next, the source mentioned a possible total buyout figure of $10 million.

It is believed that McDyess would ultimately like to return to the Pistons.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55251/20081104/source_nuggets_want_mcdyess_to_play/

[benefactor]

So who is telling the truth here?

[Big P]

The Nuggs are not going to take a bad PR rap with McDyess..if he wants a buyout, thats what he will get...if he wants to play( doesn't sound like it) for Denver than he can do that to...cutting a player like McDyess without at least faking they want him to play for them would be horrible press & players & agents would take note..they will not go that route...IMO one thing we have going for us could be, besides the higher salary from part of our MLE, which is more than alot of other teams can offer...is that Detroit "did" him like that & maybe that doesn't sit too well with Antonio & he starts to look at other options..ie teams.

[xtremesteven33]

"so youre telling me theres a chance.......?"


"YEA!!!!"

[MrChug]

Why are we still talking about this? He's never left...it was a formality.

[Manufan909]

My hopes are back up!!!! But whatever, like someone said, the Spurs could always get a better option down the line, they have time.

[Big P]

Look what Hoopsworld came up with..from their evening scoop

McDyess To Be Bought Out

The early word out of Denver was that Antonio McDyess, the throw-in on the Chauncey Billups/Allen Iverson
trade, would be bought out. Then Nuggets VP Rex Chapman said most emphatically that the team had every intention of keeping Dice.

Well, apparently that's not going to work out.

The word is that the Nuggets and Andy Miller, McDyess' agent, aren't finding common ground. It seems McDyess may prefer to find greener pastures . . .pastures where a championship may be looming. Once source has him landing back in Detroit, which makes a lot of sense, while another has him heading to San Antonio, which makes almost no sense.

So I guess now all of the people who were talking about Marbury all the time can start talking about McDyess . . .at least until he lands somewhere.

[Ghost Writer]

Awesome.

Let's get older!

[Admiral]

I remember that David Robinson was McDyess's favorite player when he entered the league. Maybe he would be willing to play for the Spurs, after all. :smokin

[Ghost Writer]

That was in the 1990s.

[Admiral]

That was in the 1990s.

So the fact that David Robinson was his hero then is automatically irrelevant now?!?

[TDMVPDPOY]

celtics are interested in him atm :(

[T Park]

Spurs more than likely have more money to offer.

If he wants PT and money, he would sign with the Spurs.

[Indazone]

Don't look now but our Eastern Conference Rival is eyeing McDyess

If Morey is smart, he'll chase McDyess too.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/2008_11_05_Antonio_McDyess_interests_Celtics/

[Manufan909]

Don't look now but our Eastern Conference Rival is eyeing McDyess

If Morey is smart, he'll chase McDyess too.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/2008_11_05_Antonio_McDyess_interests_Celtics/

Thanks for the update. I know I'm no impartial observer, but I bet he'd pick the Spurs over the Celtics. I think everyone knows Spurs Big Three>>Celt's Big Three. Plus, McDyess has gone against both team's star bigs, I bet he'd rather line up with Tim.

[TDMVPDPOY]

didnt mcdyness nealy had a punchon with kg?

[venitian navigator]

I Know Denver is already considering a buy-out, I Know the Celtics are interested etc. etc. but a trade Mc Dyess for Bonner, Finley and Voughn (and, maybe, a 2 ch.) works perfectly...Denver and Mc should only wait till january 3third !

[Manufan909]

Unless I'm mistaken, the Spurs would have to take more than McDyess, unless miraculuosly the Nuggets waived two players so they'd have space... but somehow I doubt. If they buy him out though, Pop could wave Tolliver and bring in McDyess. Or he could waive KT/Bonner, but it'd cost more.

[Stump]

I'm no expert of CBA rules, but assuming both teams are willing to wait until the appropriate date, wouldn't a simple trade make more sense for both sides instead of a buyout?

This year, McDyess makes $6,813,050, so we would have to send at least $5,450,440 in salaries back. I'm not sure how much exactly Finley makes, somewhere around 2.5 mil, so sending both Finley and Bonner and a late second rounder would likely make it work (if it's not quite there, then we just rearrange the players we send). For Denver, they gain a pick, actually lower salary a bit, and can then still buy out the newcomers if they want. For San Antonio, even though we get McDyess' steep contract, we're also freeing ourselves of two bad contracts, locking up Dyess for two years instead of just one, and keeping with the 2010 plan. Losing depth at SG may hurt, but we should have Manu back by then and Farmer could get spot minutes. Besides, Finley may come back in Brent Barry style.

[Indazone]

Denver would only do this if Bonner and Finley's contracts were expiring. Are they?

[Stump]

They, like McDyess, have two years left, but could be bought out.

[xtremesteven33]

I really hope Mcdyess would decide to join the Spurs. Pop better work his magic on this one. Also Duncan should try and get in contact with him to let him know "hey its an odd year" and we all know what happens when that happens.

Duncan/Mahinmi
Mcdyess/Oberto
Bowen/Udoka
Ginonbili/Mason
Parker/Hill

looks like a championhip team

[rascal]

The spurs need to get McDyess. They won't be going far in the playoffs with the frontcourt they have now.

[angelbelow]

damn looks like nuggets are going to do whatever to keep him around.. http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55279/20081106/report_mcdyess_mad_at_nugs_for_02_trade/

but the good news is that hes mad at the nuggets.

[Manufan909]

Get mad, Antonio!!! Come to the team who's city is 75% your name!!!!!!

[JamStone]

Listened to a Chauncey Billups interview and he dispelled any rumors that the reason why McDyess may not play for the Nuggets is because he's mad at them. Billups said that McDyess just really doesn't want to move.

[Big P]

Lets quit setting our selves up for more disappointment...chances are he wants to stay in Detroit & he is going to pull a Brent Barry...when he does everyone here will be all upset & shocked because they thought Dice signing here was a sure thing.

[xtremesteven33]

Lets quit setting our selves up for more disappointment...chances are he wants to stay in Detroit & he is going to pull a Brent Barry...when he does everyone here will be all upset & shocked because they thought Dice signing here was a sure thing.



Yea im not expecting it either. Ive learned my lessons

[Lp26]

Listened to a Chauncey Billups interview and he dispelled any rumors that the reason why McDyess may not play for the Nuggets is because he's mad at them. Billups said that McDyess just really doesn't want to move.

Any link to the interview?

[JamStone]

Any link to the interview?

There might be one, but I heard it on the radio, Detroit WDFN 1130.

I don't have any link.

[Ghost Writer]

If we pick up yet another past-his-prime, waived player, please rename the team, the "San Antonio Graveyards."


I learned my lesson with Charlie Ward for krissakes.

[Ice009]

I would love to have Antonio on the Spurs. I really would. I hope he is bought out and the Spurs go after him hard.

[024]

Agent: Don't expect McDyess to come
By Paul Willis, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Published November 6, 2008 at 8:55 p.m.

For those holding out hope Antonio McDyess will report to the Nuggets, don't count on it.

"Very, very low to zero," McDyess' agent, Andy Miller, said Thursday in labeling the percentages his client will come to Denver for a third stint with the team.

McDyess was packaged with Chauncey Billups and Cheikh Samb on Monday in a trade that sent guard Allen Iverson to Detroit, but it widely has been speculated since the deal was announced the Nuggets would buy out McDyess' contract.

McDyess, who wanted to finish his career in Detroit, would become a free agent if bought out, but he would have to wait 30 days before re-signing with Detroit.

"For Chauncey, this was a no-brainer," said Miller, who also represents Billups. "For Antonio, this was never a possibility."

Miller said when McDyess signed with Detroit two seasons ago, he believed it would be his final contract and would finish his career a Piston. Miller said he is "having discussions" with the Nuggets and expects a resolution shortly.

"I don't want people to be confused because some people have said 'Dice' doesn't want to come to Denver," Billups said. "Dice loves Denver. He's come here twice. . . . He has a decision to make. He's in the latter part of his career and is tired of moving."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/06/agent-dont-expect-mcdyess-to-come/

spurs have nothing to lose pursuing mcdyess, but it seems like he just doesn't want to move away from detroit.

[Phenomanul]

It's official... The Nuggets and McDyess have agreed to a buyout... He will be a free-agent....

[rascal]

He was released today. Any word that the spurs might have some interest?

[td4mvp21]

McDyess would be a great addition.

[timvp]

I'd still take McDyess but I don't think it's nearly as likely now. The Spurs can say they are a championship contender but an outsider would probably have doubts.

IMO, Parker's injury ended the chances of landing McDyess.

[Obstructed_View]

He was released today. Any word that the spurs might have some interest?

It's irrelevant. Wake me when there's word that he has interest in the Spurs.

[angelbelow]

It's irrelevant. Wake me when there's word that he has interest in the Spurs.

true dat

[Mr. Body]

I'd still take McDyess but I don't think it's nearly as likely now. The Spurs can say they are a championship contender but an outsider would probably have doubts.

IMO, Parker's injury ended the chances of landing McDyess.

Yup.

He'd be an idiot to consider the Spurs.

[Gino2882]

Excellent point Timvp. Everyone knew this team was trying to swoosh the water out of the ship while Ginobili recoups. With Parker also down a month this team looks to be in trouble. Especially to an outsider.

Can anyone honestly sell McDyess on the Spurs right now? As opposed to the Hornets, Rockets, Lakers, Pistons, Celtics, etc.

Other than a starting job (thomas and oberto have been blah) there isn't a whole lot going for the Spurs right now.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs are done. Objectively you'd have to consider them a longshot to get to the championship.

[Manufan909]

It's irrelevant. Wake me when there's word that he has interest in the Spurs.

Also, Pop needs to show interest to start the wheels turning.

[duncan228]

Suitors waiting on McDyess (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/11/10/suitors_waiting_on_mcdyess/)
By Marc J. Spears

AUBURN HILLS, MICH. - Pistons coach Michael Curry sighed deeply before acknowledging it was a concern when asked whether he was worried about the possibility of Antonio McDyess going to Boston.

A week after McDyess, Chauncey Billups, and Cheikh Samb were dealt to Denver for Allen Iverson, McDyess is expected to be bought out of the two years remaining on his contract today. Assuming the 2001 All-Star is not claimed on waivers, he would become an unrestricted free agent Wednesday. The Celtics are expected to be among the long list of teams interested and can offer a $2.3 million mid-level exception - although being defending champs does give the franchise a feather in its cap.

"I saw that Boston and Cleveland were interested," said Curry before the Celtics beat the Pistons, 88-76, last night at the Palace of Auburn Hills. "It's always a concern that those guys can pick him up. They're great teams, teams we have to compete against here in the East.

"The reality of it is that I've always thought you should approach coaching the way college coaches do. Whatever roster you have, that's what you have. The college coaches go into a season with injuries and poor play and can't sign any other players. You got to find a way with your roster to get it done. That's where all my energy and focus is."

Despite reports that McDyess is expected to return to Detroit, 30 days must pass before he can re-sign. Also, the most Detroit can offer him is $1.5 million.

"If Dice is bought out of his contract, we'd love to have him back," Pistons president Joe Dumars said.

The Celtics' bench has center Patrick O'Bryant and big men Leon Powe and Glen Davis. Boston, however, hasn't replaced the veteran shoes of 6-foot-11-inch P.J. Brown. Acquiring McDyess could fill that role, which would be a welcome move by the players.

Still, to sign McDyess, the Celtics either would have to waive or trade a player to open a spot on their 15-man roster.

Neither McDyess nor his agent, Andy Miller, could be reached for comment.

"[McDyess] would definitely help us out" said Celtics guard Ray Allen. "I've been a big fan of his for as long as he's been in the league. I wouldn't mind playing with him."

McDyess and Celtics forward Kevin Garnett share the same agent in Miller. Garnett said he would "root for" McDyess becoming a Celtic.

"[McDyess] has been one of the premier players in our league for a while," Garnett said. "He can definitely help this team. I definitely wouldn't be away from it. I would definitely root for it, if anything.

"Dice and I are very cool. Obviously, we're competitors. We don't spend a lot of time [together]. But when I do see Dice, I make it my business to speak. I consider him family with Andy and all of us. [Miller's clients are] tight-knit. We're family . . . I do consider him family and I always worry about his well-being."

When asked if he was confident McDyess would return to Detroit, Curry said: "I wish I was confident. It would make my life a lot easier. But I don't know what is going to happen with the situation."

[Spur-Addict]

Hmmmm..Does anyone think McDyess will drink the green leprechaun juice?

[tlongII]

I think it's pretty clear that Detroit has a "wink and a handshake" deal with Dice to come back.

[td4mvp21]

I'd still take McDyess but I don't think it's nearly as likely now. The Spurs can say they are a championship contender but an outsider would probably have doubts.

IMO, Parker's injury ended the chances of landing McDyess.

But doesn't he have to wait 30 days? That would be around the time Parker and Manu would be back....:smokin

[duncan228]

Jeff McDonald: Courting the Dice Man (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/archives/2008/11/jeff_mcdonald_c_5.html)

Now that Antonio McDyess has been officially waived by the Denver Nuggets, expect the Spurs to contact him to express their interest in signing him to a free-agent deal.

Also, expect McDyess to tell them, "No thank you."

We have discussed in this space before why it is unlikely McDyess winds up in a Spurs uniform.

The consensus around the NBA seems to be that McDyess' return to Detroit is a sure bet, after the league-mandated 30-day waiting period, of course. Word is that McDyess just doesn't want to leave the Pistons.

Technically, the Spurs could outbid the Pistons for McDyess' services, if this becomes about money (the Spurs have about $2.1 million left of their mid-level exception; the Pistons have only their $1.9 million bi-annual).

Of course, in that case, other teams known to have interest in the veteran forward could outbid the Spurs -- among them, Cleveland (which has $5.1 million to spend) and Boston (which has $2.4 million).

[Mr. Body]

Hmmmm..Does anyone think McDyess will drink the green leprechaun juice?

Ew.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55529/20081118/celtics_pull_out_of_race_for_mcdyess/

Celtics Pull Out Of Race For McDyess
Nov 18, 2008 3:50 PM EST
The Celtics made a pitch to free agent forward Antonio McDyess recently, but the former Piston wasn't interested.

Rumors after Antonio's trade from Detroit to Denver were that McDyess would take a buyout and return to the Pistons, and that is looking even more likely now.

Ainge spoke to Andy Miller, the agent for McDyess.

"We spoke," Ainge said, "but I didn't get any sense that we should be optimistic about it."

[tp2021]

Jeff McDonald: Courting the Dice Man (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/archives/2008/11/jeff_mcdonald_c_5.html)

Now that Antonio McDyess has been officially waived by the Denver Nuggets, expect the Spurs to contact him to express their interest in signing him to a free-agent deal.

Also, expect McDyess to tell them, "No thank you."

We have discussed in this space before why it is unlikely McDyess winds up in a Spurs uniform.

The consensus around the NBA seems to be that McDyess' return to Detroit is a sure bet, after the league-mandated 30-day waiting period, of course. Word is that McDyess just doesn't want to leave the Pistons.

Technically, the Spurs could outbid the Pistons for McDyess' services, if this becomes about money (the Spurs have about $2.1 million left of their mid-level exception; the Pistons have only their $1.9 million bi-annual).

Of course, in that case, other teams known to have interest in the veteran forward could outbid the Spurs -- among them, Cleveland (which has $5.1 million to spend) and Boston (which has $2.4 million).


http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55529/20081118/celtics_pull_out_of_race_for_mcdyess/

Celtics Pull Out Of Race For McDyess
Nov 18, 2008 3:50 PM EST
The Celtics made a pitch to free agent forward Antonio McDyess recently, but the former Piston wasn't interested.

Rumors after Antonio's trade from Detroit to Denver were that McDyess would take a buyout and return to the Pistons, and that is looking even more likely now.

Ainge spoke to Andy Miller, the agent for McDyess.

"We spoke," Ainge said, "but I didn't get any sense that we should be optimistic about it."
So as far as teams competing to lure Dice away, its between the Spurs and Cavs.