Bowen... 12 minutes played

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Things just got a little more interesting at the SF spot... (and by interesting, I mean ugly).

[Jahivah]

Stick a fork in Bowen. He is done. He's never improved his game. Reflexes and speed decline with age. Without his stellar deffensive talent he is useless. With Mason on board we have someonme who can shoot the 3 at a high percentage.

The fans wont like what I've had to say but the truth is the truth. Bowen does not incite fear in anyone anymore

[sendman]

Stick a fork in Bowen. He is done. He's never improved his game. Reflexes and speed decline with age. Without his stellar deffensive talent he is useless. With Mason on board we have someonme who can shoot the 3 at a high percentage.

The fans wont like what I've had to say but the truth is the truth. Bowen does not incite fear in anyone anymore

No shit, captain obvious.
Some fans are talking about this for years, but were labeled as ignorant traitors. Because using their own eyes or brain is forbidden by "almighty elite" on this board. Bruce was great and has big merits for Spurs team success in the past. Nobody can take that from him, but even the best pair of shoes gets useless after a while.

[Kori Ellis]

With Manu out, Pop is trying to find more offense, so Bowen is playing little.

I don't think that Bowen has played enough yet this season for everyone to think that he is "done." I'm not saying he is or isn't. I'm just say that it's impossible to know at this point. Bowen had a great year defensively last year, despite many people only remembering the Lakers series.

I like that Mason is emerging and he should move into Finley's spot in the starting lineup. I think that's becoming more and more obvious. But I don't think that's obvious that Bowen is done as a starter or a key asset to this team.

[Ice009]

I think Ime should start with Mason. When Manu comes back then Pop can look at starting Bruce again. If Pop doesn't want to bench Bowen then at the very least he needs to start Mason. I do not want Finley starting anymore games at all.

Vaughn needs to be 3rd string PG and Finley needs to be 3rd string SG.

[Manufan909]

With Manu out, Pop is trying to find more offense, so Bowen is playing little.

I don't think that Bowen has played enough yet this season for everyone to think that he is "done." I'm not saying he is or isn't. I'm just say that it's impossible to know at this point. Bowen had a great year defensively last year, despite many people only remembering the Lakers series.

I like that Mason is emerging and he should move into Finley's spot in the starting lineup. I think that's becoming more and more obvious. But I don't think that's obvious that Bowen is done as a starter or a key asset to this team.

Who's the main man for the 2nd unit, then? Hill? I'd throw Farmer in for consideration, but he still seems to be 3rd string.

[anakha]

Because using their own eyes or brain is forbidden by "almighty elite" on this board.

Somebody's still pissed over the top 50 Spurs polls. :lol

[Ice009]

Hill, Farmer, Bowen, Finley will have spread the scoring in the second unit.

[sendman]

Somebody's still pissed over the top 50 Spurs polls. :lol
No...that is my opinion and you can do shit about it.

[sendman]

I don't think that Bowen has played enough yet this season for everyone to think that he is "done." I'm not saying he is or isn't. I'm just say that it's impossible to know at this point.

He is done for quite some time and not only this season...and so is Finley for that matter.

[mrspurs]

No shit, captain obvious.
Some fans are talking about this for years, but were labeled as ignorant traitors. Because using their own eyes or brain is forbidden by "almighty elite" on this board. Bruce was great and has big merits for Spurs team success in the past. Nobody can take that from him, but even the best pair of shoes gets useless after a while.

Heck it was easy to see Bruce lost a step. Same goes with all the Spurs, except Tony.

[wildchild]

With Manu out, Pop is trying to find more offense, so Bowen is playing little.

I don't think that Bowen has played enough yet this season for everyone to think that he is "done." I'm not saying he is or isn't. I'm just say that it's impossible to know at this point. Bowen had a great year defensively last year, despite many people only remembering the Lakers series.

I like that Mason is emerging and he should move into Finley's spot in the starting lineup. I think that's becoming more and more obvious. But I don't think that's obvious that Bowen is done as a starter or a key asset to this team.

Agree. To find more offense and to rest him 'cause the b2b.
About Mason, I don't want to argue against Pop but the starting lineup of the second half with Mason and Oberto was better than the lineup with he opened the game.
I guess he thinks if Mason's starter, nobody scores in the second team...But the Spurs loss in the early minutes of the 1st quarter the last two games.

[Darkwaters]

When you're down 20 points and score in the 30's by half you need more O than D.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Mason has shown me nothing outside of a dribble and pop up jump shot. He seems an average dribbler and does not attack the rim. Giving him more minutes will expose this.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He is done for quite some time and not only this season...and so is Finley for that matter.

Didn't Bruce make the All-Defensive NBA first team the last few years in a row?


We have different definitions of "done".

[DROB4EVER]

He should play 0 mins. The spurs have answers at SF and could trade for one.....Wright from Miami would be a good one who is getting no burn thanks to Beasley.

The spurs problems will only be solve by adding a big or by Ian coming out as a 10-8-2 type guy.

Spurs need to target Willams from NJ, Wright from Miami or resign watkins.

[baseline bum]

Bruce's decline is why this team has little shot at a title without a significant trade this year.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Bruce's decline is why this team has little shot at a title without a significant trade this year.

Bingo.

This just pisses me off about Pop and R.C. even more. We've all seen this coming for years. And they had their answer at the SF spot in Buckets.

F'in idiots.

My concern is Bowen has looked slow in all three games so far. That's not a good development for this team and its title chances this year.

Again, it's downright criminal that Pop and R.C. have stood around with their heads up their asses for the last five years expecting Bowen to hold down the SF spot for the entirety of Tim Duncan's prime.

[1Parker1]

I really don't believe at all that Bowen is done, however, I do think maybe his time as a starter on the Spurs may come to an end at some point this season. He's still a great defender by NBA standards even if it appears he may have lost a slight step or two. But the problem is that the league, especially the West, is filled with players who are a lot stronger and super athletic...exactly the types of players usually Bowen had trouble defending even in his prime.

[MoSpur]

I still have hope for Bowen, however, at this time I think less of him is better for the team. Maybe when Manu is back, it will be different.

I cannot stand Pop starting Finley. I know we need scoring off the bench, but its not working.

[sendman]

Didn't Bruce make the All-Defensive NBA first team the last few years in a row?


We have different definitions of "done".
Blame it on inertia.

[mexicanjunior]

Bowen should be coming off the bench and averaging 10-15 minutes a game. He just doesn't add much to the rotation if he is not shutting down the best scorer from the other team. I don't think Udoka is any great shakes on defense either but he does seem to have a knack for rebounding...I say make him the starter and hope for the best.

[anakha]

No...that is my opinion and you can do shit about it.

And you in turn, can do shit about how pathetic you sound when railing against 'the man'. :lol

[Ghost Writer]

Bowen sucks. Any non-Spurs fan knows that.

Tonight he was used perfectly... more as a defensive substitution.

And he came up with the big steal at the end of regulation.



I have been saying for years that we should use him exclusively off the bench as a defensive stopper.


His offensive game is minimal and he becomes a liability in long stretches, because the Spurs don't have enough talent outside of the Big 3 to support such a liability.

[kobe_bryant]

keeps bowen fresh for the playoffs



and me

[nkdlunch]

Bowen shut down Miller at the end. he did his job.

[HarlemHeat37]

I love Bruce, but he should be a bench player at this age..perfect role for him..

[T Park]

I'm still wondering who the all star small forward they passed on to keep Bowen. Hairston shouldve stAyed instead of farmer because IMO farmer is worthless

[kobe_bryant]

tpark hates on the one guy who solely gave you two titles alone

[sendman]

And you in turn, can do shit about how pathetic you sound when railing against 'the man'. :lol
It's amazing that you still can see what you type, with your head so deep in "mans" butt.

[anakha]

It's amazing that you still can see what you type, with your head so deep in "mans" butt.

Yup, still pissed. :lol

I guess anybody who disagrees with you are all 'sheep', even when they disagree with whatever the 'brains' of ST say as well:


Why bother? Timvp shoud just tell us who to vote for and we, sheep people, shoud willingly follow.


:lmao :lmao :lmao

Somebody's bitter.

timvp has stated that he favors Rich Jones and yet, Sam Presti's leading.

Some sheep.

[sendman]

Yup, still pissed. :lol

I guess anybody who disagrees with you are all 'sheep', even when they disagree with whatever the 'brains' of ST say as well:

Don't panic, breathe normally.

[anakha]

Don't panic, breathe normally.

Kinda hard to breathe when somebody's misguided raging against the machine is making you :lmao

[cool hand]

Bingo.

This just pisses me off about Pop and R.C. even more. We've all seen this coming for years. And they had their answer at the SF spot in Buckets.

F'in idiots.

My concern is Bowen has looked slow in all three games so far. That's not a good development for this team and its title chances this year.

Again, it's downright criminal that Pop and R.C. have stood around with their heads up their asses for the last five years expecting Bowen to hold down the SF spot for the entirety of Tim Duncan's prime.



dude the bottomline is the spurs are fucking cheapskates and that is that.

[barbacoataco]

I'm not ready to say Bowen is done, when just last spring he was still playing at a high level. He has lost a step for sure, but hopefully he could get back to 2007 Finals form if needed. For all we know he isn't 100% or he is just in a funk.

Something that is confusing-- when watching the Spurs their problems at the offensive end jump out. After Parker, Duncan and Mason it is bleak. many fans are saying they need to add scoring to the lineup somehow. But thye Spurs team defensive PER is one one of the worst in the NBA, while their offensive numbers are actually good. (even though it is all Duncan and Parker)

So the queston is --are the Spurs' problems more on the offensive or defensive end of the court? If their defense is the problem, they need Bowen playing more.

Thomas has also been terrible.

[itzsoweezee]

I like that Mason is emerging and he should move into Finley's spot in the starting lineup. I think that's becoming more and more obvious. But I don't think that's obvious that Bowen is done as a starter or a key asset to this team.

cosign

[Slippy]

As pleased as i was to see Bowen come out top towards the end there with Mike Miller, deep down i still think he struggled to contain him like we all used to seeing. There were times he reacted late once Miller was able to pass him and was a step or two behind when chasing him around screens. It's just not the Bowen standard we have all become accustomed to. Where he did look good was the postion D he put when Miller was receiving the ball as in bodying him up and giving him not much space to maneuver.

Im clinging to the hope that Bruce is really trying to pace himself this season.

[homer]

I think Ime should start with Mason. When Manu comes back then Pop can look at starting Bruce again. If Pop doesn't want to bench Bowen then at the very least he needs to start Mason. I do not want Finley starting anymore games at all.

Vaughn needs to be 3rd string PG and Finley needs to be 3rd string SG.

:tu:toast Well said!!!!!

[sendman]

Kinda hard to breathe when somebody's misguided raging against the machine is making you :lmao
And you have even bigger problem, asshole is probably tight.

[SenorSpur]

I think Ime should start with Mason. When Manu comes back then Pop can look at starting Bruce again. If Pop doesn't want to bench Bowen then at the very least he needs to start Mason. I do not want Finley starting anymore games at all.

Vaughn needs to be 3rd string PG and Finley needs to be 3rd string SG.

:tu :tu

Because the Spurs offense is still struggling, it would be wise for Pop to wean himself from his loyalties and consider different lineup changes - like this one.

[anakha]

And you have even bigger problem, asshole is probably tight.

Ah, personal insults, the last defense of the truly argumentless. :lol

[sendman]

Ah, personal insults, the last defense of the truly argumentless. :lol

You got that? I'm impressed.