Is Manu the MVP of this team?

[traitoravery]

With Manu out the Spurs look mediocre and soft. He makes the team so much better. Discuss.

[xtremesteven33]

I remember last year we played the Mavericks without Duncan and Manu just ate the Mavericks for lunch. This is an interesting topic.

Its hard to say for me but i would have to say this. In the regular season, a healthy Manu is our MVP, but in the playoffs, Duncan is THE MVP

[milkyway21]

I remember last year we played the Mavericks without Duncan and Manu just ate the Mavericks for lunch. This is an interesting topic.

Its hard to say for me but i would have to say this. In the regular season, a healthy Manu is our MVP, but in the playoffs, Duncan is THE MVP
you mean you're thinking if it was Duncan on IL not Manu, Spurs could it be @ 3-0 not 0-3?

[spursfan09]

I think Manu brings energy and controlled chaos which is something the spurs were use to and sorely miss right now. Manu's passion is like no other. It's like Tim and Tony are doing so much, but its not enough at all. We need that 3rd spark.

[mystargtr34]

Its the defense thats been killing us in our 3 losses, we could have Michael Jordan lining up for us and wed still probly lose 2 of the 3.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Tim is beyond unappreciated :lol All due respect to Manu (everybody knows I love him) but people need to stop underestimating the importance of Tim's defense as much as his offense. Manu is important to this team, but Tim IS this team. I thought the last 10 season's had pretty much cleared this beyond a measure of a doubt.

[duncan228]

Tim is beyond unappreciated :lol All due respect to Manu (everybody knows I love him) but people need to stop underestimating the importance of Tim's defense as much as his offense. Manu is important to this team, but Tim IS this team. I thought the last 10 season's had pretty much cleared this beyond a measure of a doubt.

Thank you. :)

[Xylus]

I think Timmy is definitely the team's defensive MVP. But without Manu, the Spurs just look lost, like they're expecting him to come off the bench and save the game... Except he's injured. Manu is definitely the offensive MVP of this team, and the Spurs won't go far without him.

[Zee Laker]

Wow thats the dumbest thing i have heard in a while. Sorry but it is

Spurs are nothing without Duncan, NOTHING

[Xylus]

The Spurs are a three-headed monster. If one of those heads isn't performing well, the rest of the body suffers.

[Manufan909]

Hey, they have four heads, now. And one of them's is Mason's. Course, they have two assholes in Bonner and Finley. Finley isn't horrible per se, but he's horrible for the minutes he's getting.

[JamStone]

It's not really a matter of MVP when it comes to the Spurs. Duncan, Manu, Parker, and even Bowen have all proven to be pretty indispensable for the Spurs and their success. In fact, Bowen's apparent decline in level of play may also be a very key factor in the Spurs struggles. Not as much as the absence of Manu, but still something to consider.

But, at the end of the day, Duncan remains the most important piece to the team simply because the rest of the Spurs front court is not capable of replacing what he brings were he to be out. Parker can help make up for Manu's absence at least in scoring and attacking defenses, and there are guys like Mason and Finley who are capable of providing some of the things Manu brought, but there is no one on the Spurs that can even remotely replace what Duncan brings to the team.

[polandprzem]

Now will be the question if Tim Duncan realy that good of a basketball player. All in all he can't do shit right now and it's not making me more happy.
That gives another argument in a case.
"Ohh yea?! What was Tim Duncan doing when Gino was out? He was losing games, so don't say he could handle Wolves situation better then KG !!!!! "

[mystargtr34]

Now will be the question if Tim Duncan realy that good of a basketball player. All in all he can't do shit right now and it's not making me more happy.
That gives another argument in a case.
"Ohh yea?! What was Tim Duncan doing when Gino was out? He was losing games, so don't say he could handle Wolves situation better then KG !!!!! "

What did you just say

[mystargtr34]

I think Timmy is definitely the team's defensive MVP. But without Manu, the Spurs just look lost, like they're expecting him to come off the bench and save the game... Except he's injured. Manu is definitely the offensive MVP of this team, and the Spurs won't go far without him.

The problem hasnt been the O as much as it is the D. If the Spurs played actual Spurs defense in the first 3 games theyre probably 3-0, or at least 2-1. Manu is huge on O, but if you take out Parker or Duncan and put in Manu, the Spurs are still 0-3 if they play D like they have.

[WalterBenitez]

The problem is POP

[TDMVPDPOY]

without tim. no interior defense and rebound....manu will have to hit all his shots if they wanna stay in touch for a sniff to win the game

[diego]

without tim. no interior defense and rebound....manu will have to hit all his shots if they wanna stay in touch for a sniff to win the game

then how did they beat the jazz and the mavs last year without him??

i'm not saying manu > tim, but people here are acting like its just a matter of addition and subtraction.

what matters is the team, its chemistry and balance. its not a mathematical formula.

right now the spurs have a lot of new players (for their standards at least) and they still havent figured out how to play as a team. I've only seen 15-20 min of each game but there have been plenty of bad rotations, poor transition D, poor boxing out, poor passes- if that is still happening in december, then it wont matter if we have the big 3 or big 2 or big 1.

[urunobili]

Manu single handily buried both he Jazz and the Mavs last year on back to back 37 pts games at home against those... BUT Tim Duncan is the MVP of this team ask Manu about it...

[TMTTRIO]

Tim is the cornerstone and the MVP of this team and we're not going to win without him. Besides it's been our defense that has been killing us and not our offense. Tony has been doing his thing and Mason has really been filling in nicely for Manu since he's been gone along with some of the other guys.

[41times]

I have been saying it for 2 years + now. Ginob is the MVP of this team. He is the wild card, he is the spark. He is hard to gaurd, he is a good defender, he is a good inside and outside shooter and is a good rebounder.

I said it a week ago. "Every game that Ginob is out is a losable game in the West" i stand by that comment.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

TD is the Spurs MVP,Manu is the heart and soul for all the intangibles he brings to the table and having the ball on his hands in the last 3 or 4 mins of each game, and they both complement eachother perfectly.
The one who needs to step up is TP right now,time to grow some balls.

How is he NOT stepping up?? Better yet, when, in the past 3 years, has he not stepped up? This whole "TP doesn't step up" bullshit is such a bullshit reputation, spread around by people that clearly haven't been watching.

[MrChug]

Watching the games REALLY feel like shit without that dynamic on the team.

I really REALLY hope it encourages R.C. to do something soon. It wont...but I hope it does.

-and yes, if he makes everyone around him THAT MUCH better then yes, he is.

[Rapper]

What a wishful thinking!

Manu would win the MVP if Sun had raised in west

[2centsworth]

Manu is one of the dumbest players alive. Thank goodness god gave him a huge heart.

[dbreiden83080]

Manu's overall impact on the team is maybe 30% of what Timmy brings to the table. We wouldn't be much better even if he were playing right now. Our bench sucks, our D sucks and we look old as shit..

[smeagol]

Manu :tu

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd love to see if Ginobili could substitute Duncan's numbers and impact in these first 3 games..he can't..

Manu doesn't fix our rebounding and defense problems..

[tlongII]

I don't know about MVP, but he's certainly better than Tony Parker.

[HarlemHeat37]

sure, he would get a few steals and bring energy, but he doesn't help our terrible rotations ALL GAME..

[vander]

The Spurs are a three-headed monster. If one of those heads isn't performing well, the rest of the body suffers.

what he said, and unfortunately, Duncan isn't what he used to be, Manu is a sever injury risk, And TP needs both of them to truly be effective, he can't carry the team, he is a glorified role player, possibly one of the best role players of all time. but still just a role player

I just don't see this team going anywhere until they get another potential all-star, or if mason can be that guy. By the time Manu Gets back, Duncan will be exhausted, and he won't get a break because this team will still have to play balls-to the-wall every game just to make the playoffs. and I don't believe Manu will ever be healthy for a full season again with his style of play.

we need something else, anything, even marbury might help :(

[hater]

he is the MVP in the 4th quarter of the entire NBA

[KenMcCoy]

he is the MVP in the 4th quarter of the entire NBA

+1. Spurs got so used to him taking over games last year that they don't know what to do now in crunch time.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Manu is a very important part of our team's 3-headed MVP. I would put him far below Tim, but probably a little ahead of Tony if we're rating their importance to the team.

[nkdlunch]

Manu got the team involved offensively more than any other spur last year. Barry in regular season was probably #2 spur to get the team involved.

and you guys are shocked that we r losing??

[Hype Man Manu]

Mvp!! Mvp!! Mvp!!

[td4mvp21]

We'd look horrible without any of the Big Three. We looked horrible last year with Tony out and we look horrible now with Manu now. Everybody knows how we look without TD.

[traitoravery]

We'd look horrible without any of the Big Three. We looked horrible last year with Tony out and we look horrible now with Manu now. Everybody knows how we look without TD. Atleast we were winning games when Tony was out...

[greens]

During the last season, Manu took control of the situation while Tim and Tony were both out at different times due to injuries. I think Robert Horry mentioned that Manu was the Spurs MVP of the regular season last year and gave them a place in the standings. Not to mention his 37 pt wins against the Mavs and Jazz with Timmy out were very impressive.

I think ultimately, it's not just about players playing well. It's about fighting to win a game. Showing a ton of intensity and passion for the game. Manu is someone who just goes beyond during games. He gives it his all. And I think the Spurs miss that intensity and that passion. He just does not want to lose. Not to mention that Manu tends to always get the ball in his hands if the game is extremely close. He's the closer of the team. So that's also something that is missing. Even in the last season, when Tim or Tony were out, Manu was still taking over games and willing the team to wins. He just has that something extra.

However, for the Spurs to be a huge contender this year, they need Manu, Tim, and Tony to be in full strength and ready to play. The Big Three are basically the MVPs of this team right now. You need all three playing at their highest level considering the tight competition going around from the other teams. I honestly don't think that one player is the MVP of the Spurs anymore. As much as I appreciate Timmy, I still think that all three players are equally important when it comes to winning a championship. At this point, I would call this team The Big Three's team. I mean, they've been playing together for years and have won 3 championships as the leaders of this team. They all bring so much to the table. I think calling the Spurs only Tim's team right now wouldn't be fair to Manu or Tony. Teams win championships, not one single player. And I think it's truly time to start calling the Spurs Tim/Manu/Tony's team. It's a proven combination.

[MrChug]

He's simply the MVP because he takes over whenever we don't know what else to fuckin do...