ESPN says McDyess to be waived by Monday

[baseline bum]

Get him ASAP!

[baseline bum]

One positive of a 1-4 record is we could get him off waivers pretty easily, right?

[VaSpursFan]

damn...u beat me to it. we need to make a run at him. having him at PF next to Timmy would be nice. i think he goes back to Detroit though I don't know why since their frontcourt if full with johnson, sheed and maxiell.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I don't think we'd want him off waivers - we'd have to pick up his 6.8 million salary for this year and 7 mil for next year.

We'd want him to clear and then come here for whatever we have to offer.

[baseline bum]

I don't think we'd want him off waivers - we'd have to pick up his 6.8 million salary for this year and 7 mil for next year.

We'd want him to clear and then come here for whatever we have to offer.

It would fit the 2010 plan.

(Fuck that fucking 2010 plan :pctoss)

[SequSpur]

I don't think we'd want him off waivers - we'd have to pick up his 6.8 million salary for this year and 7 mil for next year.

We'd want him to clear and then come here for whatever we have to offer.

they negotiated a buyout, so he is free and clear on monday.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

they negotiated a buyout, so he is free and clear on monday.

Free and clear on Monday, but base was talking about picking him up off the waiver wire.

base - it would fit the 2010 plan, but would put us over the lux tax this year, no way would Holt Cat do that!

[Ghost Writer]

Let's see?

Old - check.

Injury-prone - check.

Unathletic - check.



Sounds like Spurs material.

[baseline bum]

Let's see?

Old - check.

Injury-prone - check.

Unathletic - check.



Sounds like Spurs material.

The Spurs blew their chance to get young blood last year when they had expiring contracts to trade. The team has nothing of value to land anyone young right now.

[baseline bum]

Actually, they blew it letting Jack walk and signing Rasho instead. :pctoss

[rascal]

Let's see?

Old - check.

Injury-prone - check.

Unathletic - check.



Sounds like Spurs material.


Your right but he is still better than Bonner and Thomas.

[dragon21]

It would fit the 2010 plan.


We have a plan? :lmao

[Ghost Writer]

Why do you think I am so fvcking frustrated with the front office, baseline?

The cupboard is empty, yet we're starving to death.

[pawe]

no need to panic yet by going after dyess, id rather see our rookies play and develop..

[baseline bum]

no need to panic yet by going after dyess, id rather see our rookies play and develop..

No need to panic? This team has one good frontcourt player, and you have to have three of them on the floor at all times.

[leemajors]

Actually, they blew it letting Jack walk and signing Rasho instead. :pctoss

have some Stone. worked for me!

[galvatron3000]

McDyess can't help the team now. Tony is hurt. Manu is hurt. Now rebounding is not the only problem but scoring is crucial. This team looks like a lottery team. Wow, I can't see the season being savaged in the West the way we're playing. Now with the best backcourt in basketball gone and one of the worst benches in the league, it's almost over. Unless someone other than Tim and Mason can step up (which I doubt due the the nature of these guys abilities) then this season is a wash. Lots of contracts to get rid of and guys to look at for next season. Who's a free agent this summer ( someone we can use) ?

[dragon21]

With Duncan carrying, all by himself the Spurs now, (and Finley, Vaughn, et al dragging him down), it'll be a scary thought that by the time every team starts getting into the game seriously, Tim will be gassed out, worse, and heaven forbid, he injures himself trying to haul his pathetic teammates, (and losing) game after game after game.

Timmy is at the wrong side of the 30s. :(

[baseline bum]

have some Stone. worked for me!

Just got a ruination bomber :lol

[Ghost Writer]

Actually, they blew it letting Jack walk and signing Rasho instead. :pctoss

Rasho is the embodiment of my hatred for the front office.

He was the player we passed on deals and cleared cap space for in 2003.

He is who we kept in spite of re-signing S. Jackson.

He is what happens when you don't put a star player in the front office's lap through the draft.

[baseline bum]

McDyess can't help the team now. Tony is hurt. Manu is hurt. Now rebounding is not the only problem but scoring is crucial. This team looks like a lottery team. Wow, I can't see the season being savaged in the West the way we're playing. Now with the best backcourt in basketball gone and one of the worst benches in the league, it's almost over. Unless someone other than Tim and Mason can step up (which I doubt due the the nature of these guys abilities) then this season is a wash. Lots of contracts to get rid of and guys to look at for next season. Who's a free agent this summer ( someone we can use) ?

The Spurs don't have money until 2010.

[baseline bum]

Rasho is the embodiment of my hatred for the front office.

He was the player we passed on deals and cleared cap space for in 2003.

He is who we kept in spite of re-signing S. Jackson.

He is what happens when you don't put a star player in the front office's lap through the draft.

Cost 'em Josh Howard too.

[SequSpur]

well there's always redtube...

[dbreiden83080]

He stinks now but we can't be picky the way we are going..

[Buddy Holly]

Sign Dice.

Try and trade Oberto, Finley and Vaughn for a Bulls player, likely Nocioni.

[timvp]

I'm still pretty high on McDyess but now with Parker out, can you really afford to waive Farmer? Waiving Finley or Bonner would be fine but I doubt the Spurs swallow those contracts.

Although, with as dead as Oberto and KT look, you have to go after McDyess.

[MannyIsGod]

Can't pick him up off waivers since it would put us over the cap.

[Allanon]

There's a reason why Dice was on the bench and then sent as fodder in the Billups trade. And it's odd that the Nuggets, with Centers "Birdman" and Nene are waiving Dice instead of keeping him.

1) He's going back to Detroit
or
2) He sucks

[timvp]

Sign Dice.

Try and trade Oberto, Finley and Vaughn for a Bulls player, likely Nocioni.
No team in the world would take that package for free, much less a player in return.

[SequSpur]

Can't pick him up off waivers since it would put us over the cap.

His contract was bought out. He can sign for anything.

[baseline bum]

There's a reason why Dice was on the bench and then sent as fodder in the Billups trade. And it's odd that the Nuggets, with Centers "Birdman" and Nene are waiving Dice instead of keeping him.

1) He's going back to Detroit
or
2) He sucks

Sucks would be a huge improvement for our frontcourt.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

There's a reason why Dice was on the bench and then sent as fodder in the Billups trade. And it's odd that the Nuggets, with Centers "Birdman" and Nene are waiving Dice instead of keeping him.

1) He's going back to Detroit
or
2) He sucks

I am going to say 1) :toast

[Allanon]

Sucks would be a huge improvement for our frontcourt.

Sorry to laugh at your misery but that's funny :D

[galvatron3000]

The Spurs don't have money until 2010.


There are guys coming off the books after this season, Finley, Udoka and Vaughn equal about 3 million. Could make a run at Rasheed Wallace, we can't get a LeBron James or Kobe anyway so we will try to recruit those B listers or C stars

[Buddy Holly]

I'm still pretty high on McDyess but now with Parker out, can you really afford to waive Farmer? Waiving Finley or Bonner would be fine but I doubt the Spurs swallow those contracts.

How much was Ron Mercers contract when they wavied him?

[Allanon]

I am going to say 1) :toast

That would be pretty sneaky :toast

[Buddy Holly]

How much was Ron Mercers contract when they wavied him?

Just did a quick search and it was 6.7 million.

If they can waive that, why not a Finley or Bonner?

[baseline bum]

There are guys coming off the books after this season, Finley, Udoka and Vaughn equal about 3 million. Could make a run at Rasheed Wallace, we can't get a LeBron James or Kobe anyway so we will try to recruit those B listers or C stars

The Spurs have $67 million committed for next season. The salary cap was $58.7 million this year, and will likely drop next season with the lower level of disposable income everyone is going to have for tickets, jerseys, and so on that contribute to the BRI (basketball-related income) that directly determines the cap.

[galvatron3000]

Just did a quick search and it was 6.7 million.

If they can waive that, why not a Finley or Bonner?



why not both!!

[Vinnie_Johnson]

That would be pretty sneaky :toast

Yeah it's funny that they talked about it right after the trade that he would be bought out and return to Detroit.

[galvatron3000]

The Spurs have $67 million committed for next season. The salary cap was $55 million this year, and will likely drop next season with the lower level of disposable income everyone is going to have for tickets, jerseys, and so on that contribute to the BRI (basketball-related income) that directly determines the cap.

they're going to have to do something because I suspect Udoka, Finley and Vaughn will not be back. Bonner will be shopped to anyone looking for a expiring contract. Spurs will have a nice first rounder looks like now to either trade or use in the draft. Gist maybe ready to join the team, Ian will be under Tim for a full season learning. I guess Hairston will be back depending on his performance in the D Laegue. Farmer maybe waived sooner than later.

[timvp]

Just did a quick search and it was 6.7 million.

If they can waive that, why not a Finley or Bonner?

Mercer's contract was an expiring contract. Plus he was a headcase who nobody liked. Pop likes Finley and Bonner could still be forced into action if Tolliver doesn't pan out and KT and Oberto continue to look done.

[IcemanCometh]

Rasho is the embodiment of my hatred for the front office.

He was the player we passed on deals and cleared cap space for in 2003.

He is who we kept in spite of re-signing S. Jackson.

He is what happens when you don't put a star player in the front office's lap through the draft.


You know we won 2 titles since then right?

[mexicanjunior]

Before the Parker injury, I was all for bringing in Mcdyess since he would help what this team lacked most...interior defense and rebounding. Now, with Tony out about a month, it's hard to see the point of it. Plus, I'm sure Mcdyess sees the shape this team is in, why would he want to come here and waste away on such a depleted unit?

[underdawg]

You know we won 2 titles since then right?

according to ghost - she says we were lucky in the first place b/c we had a lottery pick to get Duncan. It's pretty damn annoying to hear from one person that always dogs the Spurs and their FO and yet calls herself a fan. It's pretty damn easy to second guess a FO, but at the end of the day you can't change their success. Try all you want and make whatever lame ass excuses for how they could have done this or that, but the fact remains that they are one of the most successful FO's in the NBA. Deal with it or choose another team to bitch about.

[SpursFanFirst]

Sucks would be a huge improvement for our frontcourt.

:lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

That's awesome that the Nuggs only paid $6m for the buyout, considering nearly $15mil was due.

They are only $1mil over the lux tax now

[SenorSpur]

With Tolliver getting a good burn and exhibting a high basketball IQ, Bonner is sooooooo expendable. It'd be nice to pickup another solid big like McDyess. However the chances are probably remote.

[Allanon]

Yeah it's funny that they talked about it right after the trade that he would be bought out and return to Detroit.

Hahah, sounds like it's going to be much more than just "talk" now.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-081108-09
For all the well-documented financial benefits in the long term for Detroit, acquiring Allen Iverson will be somewhat costly for the Pistons this season.

Before the trade, Denver was $7.1 million over the luxury-tax threshold of $71.15 million and Detroit was $2.1 million below. The Nuggets' projected tax bill for this season now rests at $4.8 million, but the Pistons have suddenly nudged $131,336 over the tax line, with no easy way to get under because they're carrying 13 guaranteed contracts and are expected to soon re-sign Antonio McDyess.

If that's where the Pistons stay, they will have to forfeit the estimated $3.4 million tax rebate paid to all teams which land under the luxury-tax line as of June 30, 2009, which is the date used by the league to calculate each team's tax bill for the 2008-09 season.



NBA front-office sources reiterated Friday that it would be a seismic shock at this point if McDyess didn't return to the Pistons, even though roughly half the league has registered interest in signing him once he becomes a free agent. "Dice only wants to play in Detroit," one source said, upholding what we reported from the start Monday.

[exstatic]

Uh, McDyess can't "soon" resign with Detroit. By my count, he has 20 something days left on his 30 day mandatory waiting period. He can't practice with them, or use their facilities to rehab or work out.

[Allanon]

Uh, McDyess can't "soon" resign with Detroit. By my count, he has 20 something days left on his 30 day mandatory waiting period. He can't practice with them, or use their facilities to rehab or work out.

Sorry, didn't quote that part, I figured Spur fans would know about that part:



One last note here: Don't forget that McDyess, assuming he clears waivers, will will have to resist other offers for 30 days from the time the buyout is completed before rejoining the Pistons, as seen last season with Brent Barry going back to San Antonio after the Spurs dealt him to Seattle for Kurt Thomas in February.

[DPG21920]

Did anyone else read this rumor?

Spurs to deal for Knicks Eddy Curry?

One such team could be the San Antonio Spurs, who have a history of making trades with the Knicks and desperately need additional scoring. The feeling is that by playing alongside Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, Eddy Curry could resurrect his career under Spurs coach Greg Popovich. One major stumbling block is that the Spurs may not have enough assets to satisfy the Warriors in a three-way move. -- NY Daily News

[Allanon]

Did anyone else read this rumor?

Spurs to deal for Knicks Eddy Curry?

One such team could be the San Antonio Spurs, who have a history of making trades with the Knicks and desperately need additional scoring. The feeling is that by playing alongside Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, Eddy Curry could resurrect his career under Spurs coach Greg Popovich. One major stumbling block is that the Spurs may not have enough assets to satisfy the Warriors in a three-way move. -- NY Daily News

I think that's the rumor AngelBelow was pimping:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109081

[DPG21920]

cool

[Steve-O-Matic]

Regarding Eddy Curry, here's the first paragraph of John Hollinger's scouting report:

Curry might be the single worst defensive center in basketball. He jogs back on defense and is easily beaten down court by opposing centers, even after made baskets. In the half court he rarely helps and often doesn't even turn his head to see who's breezing past him for a deuce. New York's already abominable defense was a whopping 6.2 points per 48 minutes worse with Curry on the floor.

Translation: Curry will NEVER play for the Spurs.

[turiaf for president]

rumer here in LA is kupchak might go after him. lakers only have 14 players on their roster and have the MLE as well as the Minimum to throw at mcdyess. Mcdyess probably has the best chance at a ring with the lakers and would fit perfectly in the triangle with his jumper and Defense

[lotr1trekkie]

Add MyDyess waive Bonner. Even last nite he got no time. We have more than enough 3 point shooters. Finley is simply awful---maybe he should regain 15 pounds.

[xtremesteven33]

I dont see why Mcdyess would go to LA to be coming off the bench when he could go to other teams and play more minutes and be a starter.

Mcdyess would be a shoe in with the spurs but right now he probably views them as a sinking ship

[SenorSpur]

I dont see why Mcdyess would go to LA to be coming off the bench when he could go to other teams and play more minutes and be a starter.

Mcdyess would be a shoe in with the spurs but right now he probably views them as a sinking ship

Exactly. If he had any desire to come to S.A., the recent losing stretch would probably work against their pursuit of him.

[MannyIsGod]

His contract was bought out. He can sign for anything.

Yes, once he clears waivers. While he's on waivers a team can pick him up but they get the full contract thus the team has to be under the cap to fit it in. Someone mentioned picking him up off waivers.

[Pistonfan1]

Hahah, sounds like it's going to be much more than just "talk" now.


Seriously, do you have to get on your knees and constantly act like you enjoy blowing the Pistons? When we kick your asses next Friday, you wont feel friendly toward Piston fans.

If the Pistons end up beating the Lakers in the finals, I KNOW you wont be friendly towards the Pistons. Stop pulling off this act of being a nice classy laker fan. You are an obnoxious son of a bitch Laker fan who pretends to be a humble unbiased fan. You are full of shit you know it.:rolleyes

[tav1]

I'm still pretty high on McDyess but now with Parker out, can you really afford to waive Farmer? Waiving Finley or Bonner would be fine but I doubt the Spurs swallow those contracts.

Although, with as dead as Oberto and KT look, you have to go after McDyess.

Right. The Spurs are in an impossible position, in some ways. The problem is they are long, long shots to land McDyess.

I think any trade to cut dead weight for half alive weight would be fine. Finley and Bonner, as you smartly point out, are the deadest of dead weight.

[Allanon]

Seriously, do you have to get on your knees and constantly act like you enjoy blowing the Pistons? When we kick your asses next Friday, you wont feel friendly toward Piston fans.

If the Pistons end up beating the Lakers in the finals, I KNOW you wont be friendly towards the Pistons. Stop pulling off this act of being a nice classy laker fan. You are an obnoxious son of a bitch Laker fan who pretends to be a humble unbiased fan. You are full of shit you know it.:rolleyes

Nope, the only one blowing the Pistons is Yo Mamma.

I've been a Sheed fan so that's made me like the Pistons. Besides that fact, Vinnie's a cool dude.

And on top of that, your Pistons don't worry me, and there's no rivalry since you haven't been able to get to the Finals. I'd much rather see the Pistons in the Finals than the Celtics.

So Fuck Off Piston fan.

[turiaf for president]

I dont see why Mcdyess would go to LA to be coming off the bench when he could go to other teams and play more minutes and be a starter.

Mcdyess would be a shoe in with the spurs but right now he probably views them as a sinking ship

uh because he wants a ring? after bynum gasol and odom theres no big guy that can come and and be consistant. mcdyess would fill that role perfectly

[BruceLeeBowen]

Mydess would fit nicely into the lakersss

[Pistonfan1]

Nope, the only one blowing the Pistons is Yo Mamma.

I've been a Sheed fan so that's made me like the Pistons. Besides that fact, Vinnie's a cool dude.

And on top of that, your Pistons don't worry me, and there's no rivalry since you haven't been able to get to the Finals. I'd much rather see the Pistons in the Finals than the Celtics.

So Fuck Off Piston fan.


So you were a fan of Sheed during the massacre of 2004 that ENDED the Shaq era in Los Angeles? I highly doubt you were this generous to Piston fans that summer considering what took effect.




You'd rather see the Pistons in the finals because:

a. You want revenge from 2004

b. You think the Pistons would be easier than the Celtics

c. You think the Pistons stand the best chance at beating LA


The obvious answer is b.



In terms of me fucking off, you first Laker fan. This bullshit act you are pulling is so fucking obvious. I've meet motherfuckers like yourself who have tried to pull off that act of being all badass with Piston fans in 2004. They were more intimated of the Pacers and felt the Pistons wouldn't be a series to be worried about. So they start becoming all nice and generous to us. Then after game 1 and especially games 3,4,5 of the finals, they are cussing up a storm yelling "fuck the Pistons" and showed their true colors of being haters. The fact that the Pistons werent that nice little team that would be a 5-6 game series win for the Lakers set those fans off for a shocker.

[KidCongo]

Should come to C-town.