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dallaskd
11-09-2008, 02:17 PM
I do not follow politics at all, so what exactly does Barack Obama mean by all his slogans?

"change" - what change is happening?

"hope" - of what? for what?

"yes we can" - can do what?

These phrases i think took a lot of people's votes, but I have no idea what he means by them. Help?

dallaskd
11-09-2008, 02:18 PM
"Change" somewhat scares me, because everyone is chanting and screaming it but no one knows what it is.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2008, 02:20 PM
You should continue not following politics.

dallaskd
11-09-2008, 02:22 PM
I really don't want to i just want to know what's changing up there.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2008, 02:26 PM
Go to Obama's website.

Read his proposals.

Decide for yourself if that seems different from what you have seen the last eight years.

Johnny_Blaze_47
11-09-2008, 02:31 PM
Of course, the best time to start doing all your electoral and political research is five days after a national election.

dallaskd
11-09-2008, 02:34 PM
hmm i like his deal on the affordable health care, but the tax situation is unjust. If I am successful, why should i be penalized for it?

ChumpDumper
11-09-2008, 02:34 PM
Well then you should vote for McCain.

dallaskd
11-09-2008, 02:35 PM
Of course, the best time to start doing all your electoral and political research is five days after a national election.

I can't vote and do not plan on living in the U.S. after school, so it was not a big deal and now I'm interested to see what will happen.

clambake
11-09-2008, 02:35 PM
so, you don't want to pay taxes?

clambake
11-09-2008, 02:36 PM
I can't vote and do not plan on living in the U.S. after school, so it was not a big deal and now I'm interested to see what will happen.

you're here now to sponge off us?

dallaskd
11-09-2008, 02:37 PM
so, you don't want to pay taxes?

Why should I have to pay more for being successful and working hard for my money. While the lazy fat asses with JUCO degrees get a check from the government every month.

balli
11-09-2008, 02:38 PM
hmm i like his deal on the affordable health care, but the tax situation is unjust. If I am successful, why should i be penalized for it?

Because for the past 8 years, you've been getting hooked up at unproportional rates. Currently, the US is running a trillion dollar budget deficit: Meaning basically that our national savings account is one trillion in the red. And thirdly, your position in society is afforded to you not only by your hard work and success, but by the fabric of America's infrastructure and working peoples, who have not had the same success as you, but contribute heavily, to the society that allows you to be successful. That's why.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2008, 02:38 PM
All you need to know is that the end times are now upon us, so just repent and with any luck you'll just disappear like those folks in the Kirk Cameron movies.

shelshor
11-09-2008, 03:41 PM
All you need to know is that the end times are now upon us, so just repent and with any luck you'll just disappear like those folks in the Kirk Cameron movies.

DAMN--I was hoping to meet up with Mimi Rogers after The Rapture

timvp
11-09-2008, 04:16 PM
The slogans were just rallying cries to get voters excited. They don't actually mean much of anything . . .

MannyIsGod
11-09-2008, 04:22 PM
:lmao @ Spurstalk's own Joe The Plumber.

implacable44
11-09-2008, 04:46 PM
Because for the past 8 years, you've been getting hooked up at unproportional rates. Currently, the US is running a trillion dollar budget deficit: Meaning basically that our national savings account is one trillion in the red. And thirdly, your position in society is afforded to you not only by your hard work and success, but by the fabric of America's infrastructure and working peoples, who have not had the same success as you, but contribute heavily, to the society that allows you to be successful. That's why.

I fail to see your logic as to why wealth redistribution is fair...or more specifically why those making 250k plus or is it 150k ..? 100? ..whatever it ends up being ...have to pay more in taxes ? we both know the 95% comment was pure bs.....

MannyIsGod
11-09-2008, 05:09 PM
I fail to see your logic as to why wealth redistribution is fair...or more specifically why those making 250k plus or is it 150k ..? 100? ..whatever it ends up being ...have to pay more in taxes ? we both know the 95% comment was pure bs.....

Are you insinuating the GOP is going to end the graduated income tax? Because as far as I know they never tried or planned to do so.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2008, 05:26 PM
He's just ranting.

Republicans had their chance.

MannyIsGod
11-09-2008, 05:30 PM
I just want them to know how stupid their spread the wealth shit is. I mean is 37% taxes the point where we really begin to spread the wealth? Is 36% not really spreading the wealth? I mean are they completely against progressive income taxes and or ANY taxes for that matter?

baseline bum
11-09-2008, 06:03 PM
I just want them to know how stupid their spread the wealth shit is. I mean is 37% taxes the point where we really begin to spread the wealth? Is 36% not really spreading the wealth? I mean are they completely against progressive income taxes and or ANY taxes for that matter?

You haven't seen a lot of conservitards arguing for the Fair Tax (:lol) here in Texas?

MannyIsGod
11-09-2008, 08:38 PM
I don't care what one or 2 isolated conservatives argue for. Its not part of the GOP's platform to pursue a non progressive income tax for the United States. I mean fuck, thats so god damn socialist.

Nbadan
11-10-2008, 12:36 AM
A consumption tax is the stupidest idea I've seen so far, which is why guys like Steve Forbes support it...

Brutalis
11-10-2008, 01:41 AM
I'm curious to see if blacks get another mule and a few acres of land. On a more serious note, I do wonder what his 'pardon' thing is all about.


The slogans were just rallying cries to get voters excited. They don't actually mean much of anything . . .

Yeah just too bad America bit on it. Oops, I mean the northeast.

byrontx
11-10-2008, 08:45 AM
Maybe you are a "Maverick."

Mr. Peabody
11-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Yeah just too bad America bit on it. Oops, I mean the northeast.

And by "northeast" I mean the Southeast, Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, Southwest, Rocky Mountains, Northwest, Pacific Coast, . . . .

MannyIsGod
11-10-2008, 09:43 AM
I'm curious to see if blacks get another mule and a few acres of land. On a more serious note, I do wonder what his 'pardon' thing is all about.



Yeah just too bad America bit on it. Oops, I mean the northeast.


I'm just curious to see if they teach kids in Arkansas how to read maps.

DarkReign
11-10-2008, 09:57 AM
And by "northeast" I mean the Southeast, Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, Southwest, Rocky Mountains, Northwest, Pacific Coast, . . . .

I was going to say as well....

The only large states in the South are Texas, Georgia and Florida. Arkansas/Mississippi/Lousiana/etc are all small states with low populations.

Just because there are more red states on your map doesnt mean a majority of the country voted that way. Red states are traditionally very low population places. N.Dakota, S.Dakota, Nebraska, the entire South (save Texas), etc.

A grand total of less than 100 EVs (minus Texas) for like 15 states.

For comparison, little-ass Conneticut has more EVs than Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, The Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho and Utah.

Yeah, that little spec in the NorthEast is more important to the election than a majority of the states you can easily recognize on the map.

MannyIsGod
11-10-2008, 10:00 AM
53%

DarkReign
11-10-2008, 11:00 AM
53%


Yeah, that too.

RandomGuy
11-10-2008, 11:23 AM
"Change" somewhat scares me, because everyone is chanting and screaming it but no one knows what it is.

I, for one, would love the Justice Department to change from the partisan extension of the Republican party back to being the most impartial part of the government.

I would like the change from their policy of hiring for non-political positions based on loyalty to the Republican party. (did I mention that this is illegal?)

I would like the change from firing prosecutors who don't "go after" Democrats hard enough or have the temerity to indict Republicans. (did I mention that this is illegal too?)

I would like the change where the Head of the Justice department is more worried about organized crime and justice than whether a statue in the atrium is showing a nipple.

There is some of my "change" wishes. I can provide links to the above bits, if needed.

Wild Cobra
11-10-2008, 02:13 PM
"Change" somewhat scares me, because everyone is chanting and screaming it but no one knows what it is.

Shows just how stupid his followers are. His Obambies (Obama zombies.)

ChumpDumper
11-10-2008, 02:29 PM
So why are you whining about the changes you say will happen under Obama?

Tully365
11-10-2008, 02:34 PM
hmm i like his deal on the affordable health care, but the tax situation is unjust. If I am successful, why should i be penalized for it?

If.

I don't think you'll have to worry about being penalized. You're probably safe.

Tully365
11-10-2008, 02:40 PM
I'm just curious to see if they teach kids in Arkansas how to read maps.

:lol c'mon Manny-- you know that this issue has already been addressed, and that mapmania is spreading all over the place!

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Nbadan
11-11-2008, 01:52 AM
If.

I don't think you'll have to worry about being penalized. You're probably safe.

That's some funny shit....If I get off my ass and ever become successful - I wanna keep that shit!

:lol