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Clandestino
02-20-2005, 10:37 AM
Residents Angry Over Rape Suspect's Return

1 hour, 3 minutes ago U.S. National - AP


By CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press Writer

DENVER - As a serial rape suspect returned to Denver in handcuffs, about 250 people gathered outside a store owned by one of the victims and expressed anger that the man had been allowed to go free after allegedly confessing to another crime.



Brent J. Brents is a suspect in five sexual assaults on women and girls earlier this month in Denver — crimes committed after police said he confessed to an earlier attack but was released.


He was arrested late Friday in western Colorado while driving a car believed to have been taken from a woman whom he allegedly brutally beat. He was returned to Denver Saturday and held in lieu of $25 million bail.


At the rally Saturday outside a pet shop owned by one of the victims, residents shouted and shook noisemakers when a friend of the victim asked how many were angry and baffled that Brents had been freed after previous allegations against him.


"Acts of violence against women and children cannot be tolerated," the owner's fiance told the crowd.


Brents, 35, was accused late last year of inappropriately touching a former girlfriend's 8-year-old son but never arrested, despite allegedly telling officers the boy was telling the truth. Aurora Police Chief Ricky Bennett has said Brents was allowed to leave because additional investigation was needed.


Brents had been released from prison months earlier after being sent to a state hospital for about three years and then to prison for 14 years for raping a young boy and a girl.


He was linked by DNA evidence to the string of rapes in Denver, police said, and is also a suspect in an October sexual assault.


He was arrested Friday after allegedly beating a woman and stealing her car and cell phone. The victim of Friday's attack was in serious but stable condition at a Denver hospital, police said.


Police tracked calls made from the stolen phone and arrested Brents about 150 miles west of Denver. He was with a woman whom police described as a victim, but they did not immediately disclose whether she had been kidnapped.


The string of rapes in Denver began Feb. 11 with the rape of the 44-year-old pet shop owner and another woman blocks away. Brents is also a suspect in the sexual assaults on two 11-year-old sisters and their 67-year-old grandmother, according to an arrest warrant.


Police encouraged other possible victims to come forward.


"We have significant reason to believe that there are many, many additional victims," said Dave Fisher, the police department's chief of investigations.


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3rdCoast
02-20-2005, 12:17 PM
put me in charge, i will be quick to pull the trigger and i bet anything crimes go down once i start ordering 1000 a day to go the chair. They get convicted of rape,murder then they are dead. simple as that, no waiting 5-15 years then kill them, im talking about they get convicted then they go strait to the chair. i dont play games.

MannyIsGod
02-20-2005, 12:26 PM
This is exactly why it's impossible to discuss this shit in here.

People try to use a case where the man should obviously have not been let go as fuel for the death penalty. Give me a fucking break, are the only 2 options let him go or give him the chair?

3rdCoast
02-20-2005, 12:35 PM
no, we should keep him in jail and waste our money on a guy who has been a menace to society and feed him and take care of him because he is so fucking great. america is too soft, i wish we would be a lot more strict. fucking kill him, hes useless to society.

desflood
02-20-2005, 12:39 PM
Now Manny, calm down! Who said anything about only two options?

desflood
02-20-2005, 12:50 PM
Let's be rational. Of course the death penalty will always be the topic of big moral debate. And tx obviously pushed your button exactly the way he wanted to. I think his point under all the talk was, this is an excellent case of system f*ck-up. Admitted child molester/rapist, multiple offender, DNA evidence... and he's out on the street. To rape another child, no doubt. They can put him back into prison - where he will either get out on parole in some years to offend again, or if he gets life he'll spend the rest of his days watching cable tv in the dayroom and getting a degree in the prison library at taxpayers' expense. Or, we can inject him, and ensure that neither happens. Can you honestly think of a better punishment for this man?

Clandestino
02-20-2005, 01:35 PM
or shit, he'll rape a prisoner who is in for tax evasion or some crime like that... evading your taxes doesn't call for being raped as punishment...

MannyIsGod
02-20-2005, 01:45 PM
Yes, because tax evaders are put in the same institutions as rapists.

I guess you've seen this movie:

"We're not going to white collar resort prison, we're going to federal pound you in the ass pirson."

desflood
02-20-2005, 02:44 PM
Just ask Martha Stewart. She has a microwave in her cell, for God's sake. Can you even call it a cell if it's better furnished than some people's homes?

Clandestino
02-20-2005, 02:57 PM
Yes, because tax evaders are put in the same institutions as rapists.

I guess you've seen this movie:

"We're not going to white collar resort prison, we're going to federal pound you in the ass pirson."

a buddy of mine works at the minimum security federal prison in three rivers, tx... and they have criminals there for all sorts of crimes..rapists and murderers... and white collar ones as well...

Clandestino
02-20-2005, 02:57 PM
Just ask Martha Stewart. She has a microwave in her cell, for God's sake. Can you even call it a cell if it's better furnished than some people's homes?

not everyone gets the red carpet prison treatment...

MannyIsGod
02-20-2005, 03:05 PM
a buddy of mine works at the minimum security federal prison in three rivers, tx... and they have criminals there for all sorts of crimes..rapists and murderers... and white collar ones as well...

Ok, find out if they are kept in the same cells as white collar criminals.

MannyIsGod
02-20-2005, 03:05 PM
not everyone gets the red carpet prison treatment...

nobody should, but that's a whole different topic.

desflood
02-20-2005, 03:16 PM
So Manny, what do you think we should do with this guy?

3rdCoast
02-20-2005, 03:26 PM
Yea, never mind killing him, lets spend cash and let him live a life in jail where he watches tv and eats on my dollar. I love working just so that a dude who could have potentially killed or raped someone in my family or me, gets to live in a place with food, water, and tv.


you have got to open your eyes, im not sayin its right to play God and take peoples lives, but its a fact..Kill or Be Killed. I am tired of these new age hippies trying to argue for someone who would just as much want to kill them as they would me.

FUCKING GIVE THEM THE CHAIR!

Clandestino
02-20-2005, 06:17 PM
Ok, find out if they are kept in the same cells as white collar criminals.

as long as they are in the same area, there is danger to the lesser criminals... i got to tour the place before it opened... very, very nice facilities..and they have only gotten better... nice bball gym, softball fields, flag football fields, library, barber...their own little fucking city... fucking ridiculous..

bigzak25
02-21-2005, 10:41 AM
You know, minimum security prison is no picnic. I had a client in there once. He said the trick is: kick someone's ass the first day, or become somebody's bitch. Then everything will be alright.

Samurai Jane
02-21-2005, 11:09 AM
Both my parents were residents of minimum security and it's like a resort. Most of the folks that end up there are living the life of luxury compared to what they had on the outside. IMO, the biggest punishment is not getting to see your family, and making 13 cents an hour.

MannyIsGod
02-21-2005, 11:30 AM
So Manny, what do you think we should do with this guy?

Well, putting him on trial would be the first thing.

FromWayDowntown
02-21-2005, 01:26 PM
I don't read that this guy has done anything that would get him a death sentence. I can't think of a single state that allows the death sentence absent a conclusion that the defendant killed someone in the act of committing another crime. Assuming the allegations to be true -- and it would seem to me that they are -- this guy is despicable, but he hasn't killed anyone and thus, cannot be sentenced to death.

WTF difference does the death penalty discussion make here?