Nbadan
02-20-2005, 03:52 PM
Feb. 20, 2005, 10:30AM
Report: U.S. in secret talks with Iraq insurgents
Reuters News Service
WASHINGTON- U.S. diplomats and intelligence officers are conducting secret talks with Iraq's Sunni insurgents on ways to end fighting there, Time magazine reported today, citing Pentagon and other sources.
The Bush administration has said it would not negotiate with Iraqi fighters and there is no authorized dialogue but the U.S. is having "back-channel" communications with certain insurgents, unidentified Washington and Iraqi sources told the magazine.
The magazine cited a secret meeting between two members of the U.S. military and an Iraqi negotiator, a middle-aged former member of Saddam Hussein's regime and the senior representative of what he called the nationalist insurgency.
A U.S. officer tried to get names of other insurgent leaders while the Iraqi complained the new Shi'ite-dominated government was being controlled by Iran, according to an account of the meeting provided by the Iraqi negotiator.
"We are ready to work with you," the Iraqi negotiator said, according to Time.
much more: Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/rssstory.mpl/front/3048691)
Well, so much for not negotiating with terra-ists, huh? First we negotiate with the now 'peaceful' Taliban, and now we have these back-channel manuevering with the Sunni.
Let's see.....trying to keep the facts straight.....we invaded Iraq, ousted Saddam Hussein who is a Sunni, installed a US Provisional Government with L. Paul Bremer which didn't work because the insurgency was growing exponentially. Next, we installed an Iraqi puppet government with Ayad Allawi who is a CIA employee.
Next, we have a national election. The Shi'Ites win big, as was expected (Shi'Ites are the majority in Iraq; about 60%). Where does this leave the US?
In trouble, that's where.
And.....as if that wasn't bad enough, there's another disenfranchised group of people in Northern Iraq, the Kurds. They have a natural alliance with their brothers in Turkey, the Turkish Kurds. Now, as Lady Luck would have it, the Kurds in N. Iraq are sitting on the biggest, most lucrative $ pile of oil in the region.
They want to secede. And their brothers to the North agree. The Turkish government now has big sweat rings under their arms. And they are pissed. They are hugely pissed at... the US government.
Who else? Who else would jump in there with a big stick and stir the pot? And manage to piss off every last human being within 5,000 miles.
Now, back to the bribes. We have burned through close to $300 billion on this little adventure. How much of that was bribery money? Probably a good chunk of it. And what did it accomplish? Did we really buy anybody? Any loyalty there to see? Or is Iraq a seething Dante's Inferno?
This is what happens when you put amateur chicken-hawks in charge of wars. All you get is crap, a drained treasury, and a spent force.
Report: U.S. in secret talks with Iraq insurgents
Reuters News Service
WASHINGTON- U.S. diplomats and intelligence officers are conducting secret talks with Iraq's Sunni insurgents on ways to end fighting there, Time magazine reported today, citing Pentagon and other sources.
The Bush administration has said it would not negotiate with Iraqi fighters and there is no authorized dialogue but the U.S. is having "back-channel" communications with certain insurgents, unidentified Washington and Iraqi sources told the magazine.
The magazine cited a secret meeting between two members of the U.S. military and an Iraqi negotiator, a middle-aged former member of Saddam Hussein's regime and the senior representative of what he called the nationalist insurgency.
A U.S. officer tried to get names of other insurgent leaders while the Iraqi complained the new Shi'ite-dominated government was being controlled by Iran, according to an account of the meeting provided by the Iraqi negotiator.
"We are ready to work with you," the Iraqi negotiator said, according to Time.
much more: Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/rssstory.mpl/front/3048691)
Well, so much for not negotiating with terra-ists, huh? First we negotiate with the now 'peaceful' Taliban, and now we have these back-channel manuevering with the Sunni.
Let's see.....trying to keep the facts straight.....we invaded Iraq, ousted Saddam Hussein who is a Sunni, installed a US Provisional Government with L. Paul Bremer which didn't work because the insurgency was growing exponentially. Next, we installed an Iraqi puppet government with Ayad Allawi who is a CIA employee.
Next, we have a national election. The Shi'Ites win big, as was expected (Shi'Ites are the majority in Iraq; about 60%). Where does this leave the US?
In trouble, that's where.
And.....as if that wasn't bad enough, there's another disenfranchised group of people in Northern Iraq, the Kurds. They have a natural alliance with their brothers in Turkey, the Turkish Kurds. Now, as Lady Luck would have it, the Kurds in N. Iraq are sitting on the biggest, most lucrative $ pile of oil in the region.
They want to secede. And their brothers to the North agree. The Turkish government now has big sweat rings under their arms. And they are pissed. They are hugely pissed at... the US government.
Who else? Who else would jump in there with a big stick and stir the pot? And manage to piss off every last human being within 5,000 miles.
Now, back to the bribes. We have burned through close to $300 billion on this little adventure. How much of that was bribery money? Probably a good chunk of it. And what did it accomplish? Did we really buy anybody? Any loyalty there to see? Or is Iraq a seething Dante's Inferno?
This is what happens when you put amateur chicken-hawks in charge of wars. All you get is crap, a drained treasury, and a spent force.