Game Blog: Spurs vs. Knicks - 11.11.2008

[benefactor]

Tolliver...BANG!

[angelbelow]

obertos hitting the boards tonight. tahts healthy sign!

[byrdman31]

lol i justs got the finley block

[Brazil]

Tolllllllllllllllllllllliver !

[Manufan909]

FUCK YOU TP!!! You're link's faster than league pass. And Fin is inviting people to his block party.

[byrdman31]

im way behind but i dont care ! toliiiiveeeer!

[DROB4EVER]

anyone got a link to the game

[Russ]

Back off on Vaughn -- he's tryin.

He'll come back like Fin.

[timaios]

Spurs / Knicks

http://fr.justin.tv/imperial07

[angelbelow]

if bowen is going to come off the bench, we should limit him even further... only matching him up with opponents best players.

[Ice009]

LOL the rookie Hill did a superior job starting to what Jacque is doing now.


What the fuck was Pop thinking singning scrubs like Vaughn and giving him a player option in his contract?

[HarlemHeat37]

solid start..we're missing A LOT of easy shots, but the defense is there, and that's all I ask for..shooting is never a guarantee, but defense should be..

hopefully Tim can end this drought and carry us offensively..they've already been doubling him to start, we just need to start making..Ime has missed way too many open jumpers so far..hopefully Mason can get hot, since he's a streak shooter..

[boutons_]

Spurs shooting 30%, don't need to worry about defense with offense so horrible.

[Manufan909]

Now everyone should know the NBA doesn't want the Spurs winning, giving their points to the other teams.:lmao

[Brazil]

I like this game so far : low score, limited FG%...

[Josepatches]

anyone got a link to the game

MP

[Biggems]

D'Antoni to Pop

"You're Old Mother Hubbard and only Vaughn's in the cupboard"



I swear he sucks. I wish he would just stop shooting. Maybe he is trying to build a new house for Habitat for Humanity with all those bricks.


Finley, needs to be benched. He seems to always shoot better once he gets benched. He is playing so much better tonight.

I am loving me some Tolliver. He is unselfish, a solid passer, is shooting ok, and isn't afraid to crash the glass. I love how he looks to set up Timmy for easy looks when the two are on the floor together.

[benefactor]

Vaughn back on the bench...thank God.

[lurker23]

25-23, Knicks up by 2.

If Tolliver can show that he can hit the 3 pointer consistently, Bonner will almost definitely be shipped by the trade deadline.

Pop doesn't need to give Hill and Vaughn equal minutes. If Mason isn't going to play any PG, then it needs to be 32 minutes for Hill, 16 minutes for Vaughn.

[angelbelow]

Spurs / Knicks

http://fr.justin.tv/imperial07

THANKS!!!!

[HarlemHeat37]

if Pop is going to rest Duncan every time we're close at this point, these guys need to step up the offense..

I love when Fab is aggressive..he has too much offensive talent not to..

[mVp]

Obertooo

[tp2021]

Haha Oberto just froze his defender! Go Fab.

[benefactor]

I really like this lineup...

[tp2021]

Hill's arms are invaluable.

[SAtown]

Pop doesn't need to give Hill and Vaughn equal minutes. If Mason isn't going to play any PG, then it needs to be 32 minutes for Hill, 16 minutes for Vaughn.

Coach Bud said in the pregame that Mason will eventually get some minutes at PG, although he didn't specify how the minutes would be distributed

[byrdman31]

were looking better.... well agaisnt ny... but still good look

[Spur-Addict]

Spurs / Knicks

http://fr.justin.tv/imperial07

Access code?

[benefactor]

Thanks for the bailout Nate...:tu

[SAtown]

were looking better.... well agaisnt ny... but still good look

To be fair, this isn't last year's Knicks

[benefactor]

Lol Elliott...."Hills arms are longer than a bad month."

[milkyway21]

:lol D' antoni gonna be pissed if they lose to (a depleted) Spurs again

remember the 1st round, Pop and the Spurs cost him his last job :lmao

[#2!]

Hill Block Chandler!!!!!

[HarlemHeat37]

Roger looks bad..what a stupid pass..

[duncan228]

I like what Hill is showing us.

[angelbelow]

i like hill crashing the boards.

[benefactor]

Hill is a BEAST!

[Biggems]

Ok these young guys are gonna make a ton of mistakes, so we will have to live with that.....but they are also going to bring energy, effort, and intensity.......I am loving this.

[HarlemHeat37]

looking good against the Knicks is actually a good thing..we've looked bad offensively..but their offense is a very good offense, and we've been able to play good defense so far..

[Manufan909]

Sean's a homer, but damn did I miss his color commentary. And Hill got a solid block, fuckers.

[tp2021]

The officials are calling a pretty good game right now. Props.

[tp2021]

Damn it Fin

[jayc23]

God Finley Retire

[Manufan909]

Tim to the zebra for 3!!!

[lurker23]

Coach Bud said in the pregame that Mason will eventually get some minutes at PG, although he didn't specify how the minutes would be distributed

Thanks, I hope this is the case. Even with TP out, I think Vaughn should average 12 minutes per game at best.

[angelbelow]

OMG finely

[#2!]

Stuff By Hill Again

[benefactor]

Hill with the block!

[tp2021]

Damn it Ime.

[byrdman31]

lol at the pass to the ref.. haha

[jayc23]

why can the spurs not shoot a damn jump shot

[Spurs Brazil]

Ime 0-7FG

[HarlemHeat37]

our shooting is disgusting so far..our offense is solid with the plays right now, but nothing is going in..

[tp2021]

Hit your freebies, Tim.

[loveforthegame]

Udoka 0-7, Mason 0-3, and Vaughn 0-4.

[Ice009]

I like the energy the young guys are bringing.

I really do. They're making mistakes, but that's something you have to go with.

Good board Tim. Great hustle.

[Manufan909]

Tim 3 pt pay.

[SAtown]

Another miss by Udoka

[byrdman31]

link im watching doesnt show the score.... any help

[tp2021]

Timmy with the banker! I love that shot out of him.

[byrdman31]

nevermind got it

[boutons_]

ZR eating Tim's lunch

[Spurs Brazil]

TD bank

[Spur-Addict]

Simmer down Udoka

[SAtown]

link im watching doesnt show the score.... any help

Knicks 33 - 30 Spurs

[Manufan909]

Tim on the right.

[benefactor]

Tim still having some timing problems with his blocked shots.

[HarlemHeat37]

if we can just make a shot, we'd be up double-digits right now..everything we're getting is wide open..

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan's defense has been solid other than that last play..

[byrdman31]

tolliver for udoka now???

[#2!]

In tonight's episode of Manger Babies the part of our Lord and savior will be played by Tim Duncan

[boutons_]

22 shots missed, only 4 ORB

[lurker23]

Knicks 33, Spurs 30, 4:44 left in the first half.

Spurs hanging tight despite shooting very poorly. In past years, I would always consider this a good sign. Typically the Spurs would pick it up in the second half and get the win.

Hopefully someone can start hitting 3 pointers at some point. They can't be gun-shy, though- gotta keep shooting.

[Brazil]

The FTs are horrible for the spurs 2-7

[benefactor]

We need more than streaky shooting out of Ime. Gotta be consistent.

[bdictjames]

Im just glad NY is shooting 44 percent.

[Brazil]

Duncan's defense has been solid other than that last play..

+1

[benefactor]

Hill still showing a little uncertainty. This stretch without Parker should work a lot of that out.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'd love to see Bruce get going right now..

[HarlemHeat37]

Tim needs to make a move EVERY TIME..

[bdictjames]

Duncan has one block, sweet.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Who started tonight?

[benefactor]

Push = travel?

[byrdman31]

need some of the old school bruuuuuuuuuce side threes

[tp2021]

Bruce with the and-1!

[SAtown]

This link should work

http://www.justin.tv/stealthshot

[Brazil]

It's weird to say that but we need Oberto

[mVp]

Bruce and 1!!

[benefactor]

Bowen and 1! HA!

[bdictjames]

Wait, is the game boring?

[Spurs Brazil]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce and one1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ducks]

:flag:

[Manufan909]

Bowen with the Manu play.

[lurker23]

Who started tonight?

Hill, Mason, Udoka, Duncan, Oberto.

[Manufan909]

Wait, is the game boring?

Not if you like true Spurs bball.

[byrdman31]

that has to get him some confidence ..

[#2!]

Nice and 1 for Bruce. thats a perfect example of what this spurs team needs to do offensively. Make sure Tim gets the ball and then the rest of the guys should take the shots that are created by Tim having the ball in his hands

[johnnyblues]

I'd like to see more of Farmer in the 2nd half...

[angelbelow]

the score is so low..

[VaSpursFan]

although we may lose a few, i'm a fan of the youth movement. g.hill has been steady at the point for his first start and limited time in the system.

[angelbelow]

tthanks for the link.

[Brazil]

the score is so low..

yeah it's so good for us

[benefactor]

I'd like to see more of Farmer in the 2nd half...
Agreed...I think Farmer would actually be very effective in a game like this.

[bdictjames]

Not if you like true Spurs bball.
true Spurs ball is boring, I was looking at the stats and both are shooting at their 30s

I love it.

[mVp]

Great D by Timmy

[Bartleby]

Nice D by Tim but it looks like he paid for it.

[tp2021]

Bruce for 3!!!

[benefactor]

Bowen!!!!

[mVp]

Bruceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Bartleby]

Bowen!!!!!

[Manufan909]

Tim steal.

[Brazil]

Brruuuucccceeeeeeee

[tp2021]

Tim with the and-1!

[mVp]

Ih yeahhhh Timmy and oneeeeee

[benefactor]

Timmmeehhh!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

TD and one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Manufan909]

I heard Bruce for 3 AAFTER reading it... fuck.

[bdictjames]

Wawaweewa!!

[byrdman31]

i called it!!!!!!!

[tlongII]

That was a charge! :lol

[benefactor]

Tim working on a triple dub...15/5/4 right now

[Brazil]

Very good game for Tim so far 7-9 4 assits 2 stl 1 blk

[#2!]

My favorite part about Spurs games: getting so excited when i see the score BELOW 40 for both teams w/ about a minute left in the half.

Good defense guys

[byrdman31]

sweeeeeet getting some momentum heading to the half... always good

[mVp]

WTF Vaughn...

[Bartleby]

What the fuck is JV doing shooting way out there?!?!?!

[SAtown]

...and Manu Ginobili.

[HarlemHeat37]

Vaughn needs to be benched..play Mason at the point..JV is a liability..

[Brazil]

JV come on go home

[HarlemHeat37]

Mason is passing up too many shots..

[DROB4EVER]

When is Ian coming back, how long does it take for a twisted ankle to heal?

[tp2021]

Tolliver needs to make his 3's. That's why we signed him.

[urunobili]

NO more Bonner... Mason sucking ass when starting...

[#2!]

Why has pop been keeping TD out of the last couple minutes of halves(first and second) lately?
any thoughts?

[byrdman31]

Damn 3s

[Russ]

When is Ian coming back, how long does it take for a twisted ankle to heal?

Back?

[Josepatches]

38-34 Tim to the bench
41-34 right now
The great Pop!!

[milkyway21]

What the fuck is JV doing shooting way out there?!?!?!

JV shld concentrate on sharing the ball , instead of making his way to the rim

remember, the only time he was DNP was the only time the Spurs won.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Tolliver sucks.

His summer league shooting was definitely a fluke.

[HarlemHeat37]

Pop should definitely put Roger back on the bench..don't mess with what's working..

[Brazil]

Why has pop been keeping TD out of the last couple minutes of halves(first and second) lately?
any thoughts?

Damn Tim has played 17 mn oups I need to bench him...

[Spurs Brazil]

Knicks up 2 at the half

[byrdman31]

JV shld concentrate on sharing the ball , instead of making his way to the rim

remember, the only time he was DNP was the only time the Spurs won.

lol we should keep him just on the dnp maybe hes the lucky charm

[SAtown]

Ny 41 - 38 Sa Halftime

[mVp]

Well, down 2 at the half isn't that bad right?

[alchemist]

you're up by a couple, so instead of stretching the lead you take Timmy out only to have the Knicks run 5 straight and then you bring Tim back in...........gotta love it.

[HarlemHeat37]

good half..we've had A LOT of good looks, can't make them..defense has been good though..

Vaughn shouldn't play anymore after this game..

Roger passing up too many shots..

I'd like to see more Bruce..

give Tim the ball every time..

[MannyIsGod]

Not bad - thats about as well as could be expected. Need something more from Tolliver, Udoka and Mason. If one of those 3 produces in the 2nd half we likely win.

[kobyz]

Duncan look bad defensively

[Brazil]

JV stats : 0-5 / 1 reb / 2 PF and 1 TO nice...

[Josepatches]

17 and 17 = 34 minutes.
TD has to play at least 40min right now.

[byrdman31]

not bad

[SAtown]

JV stats : 0-5 / 1 reb / 2 PF and 1 TO nice...

Very solid. If only we could get that out of him regularly

[milkyway21]

Knicks up 2 at the half
thanks! that's a good sign

[DROB4EVER]

Hill started on fire and then did nothing the last 12 mins. He needs to be aggressive. Mason too, we know your unselfish, start acting like your buddy from washington Gilbert and just shoot everything!

[byrdman31]

yeah just let hill and mason run point next half... those shots just need to fall and well be alright

[Joe Schmoogins]

pretty good half

hopefully mason can step up the scoring in the second

defense seems solid! That's encouraging!

[Brazil]

Duncan look bad defensively

I was actually thinking that he played more defense than the last games.:(

[SpursFan0728]

Much improved on transition D...

just need to nail those open shots on Offense

[SpursFan0728]

I was actually thinking that he played more defense than the last games.:(

yea i agree..

[Brazil]

My favorite stat : Bonner 0 MIN

[Brazil]

Very solid. If only we could get that out of him regularly
:lol

[tp2021]

Games like this should make Spurs fans appreciate Tim.

[Spur-Addict]

My favorite stat : Bonner 0 MIN

:lol

Plz, let someone take him off our hands.

[boutons_]

sickly offense, can't shoot, and ony 6AST/16FG, not team ball

RB +2
STL +3
BLK +2

good hustle stats

30% 3Gs, gonna lose.

[Russ]

My favorite stat : Bonner 0 MIN

Bonner is a luxury the Spurs can no longer afford.

[Joe Schmoogins]

for those watching the game: How does Tolliver's D look!?

He doesn't seem to be crashing the boards as he should

[Brazil]

Games like this should make Spurs fans appreciate Tim.

I agree, solid game so far

[Manufan909]

More aggressiveness from Mason, Tolliver, and Hill and the Spurs got this. And if Ime stops impersonating Fin, they'll win by double digits.

And the Spurs are winning on the boards for a change, yay!!!

[milkyway21]

Originally Posted by milkyway21

JV shld concentrate on sharing the ball , instead of making his way to the rim

remember, the only time he was DNP was the only time the Spurs won.
lol we should keep him just on the dnp maybe he's the lucky charm

:lmao lucky charm indeed.
or I just take it as coincidence?? :lol

[urunobili]

we need to see some Farmer 2nite Pop come on!

[benefactor]

First half thoughts:

I really like the unit that started the game. They brought good energy and matched up well with the Knicks lineup. We have had a TON of good looks that could have added up to a double digit lead. The defensive effort was like night and day compared to how we have been playing. Rotations have been solid and Tim is not quite all the way there but looks much better. We need to be more aggressive going to the rim. I think Mason could be going stronger to the rack. He has been a bit passive and against this team he should be attacking the rim like crazy. With all the open 3's, we might as well give Farmer some burn in the second half. His aggressive scoring style would be good also.

Besides the missed 3's, its been a good effort overall. Most of the mistakes that have been made are a result of players that are not yet accustomed to each other. I look forward to seeing these guys continue to play together and develop the cohesion that will make them a vital part of this team as we get deeper into the season.

[HarlemHeat37]

how the hell does Duncan look bad defensively? he's only had 1 bad play..he's rotated well on every play he was supposed to, he's contesting shots..Randolph is a good player too, Duncan is fine right now..

Pop needs to realize that Tim needs to play big minutes if we want to go anywhere..so we'll see if he plays him as much as he should in the 2nd half..

[Blackjack]

Got to like the effort so far.:tu

Mason and Vaughn's floor game is leaving a lot to be desired, but if the role players could develop Tolliver's lack of concious and shoot the open shots in rhythm? They might just put a good run together.

Props to Sean on the miniature plastic man reference he made about Hill.:toast I'm sure there's a good nickname that could come from that, but it hasn't hit me yet.

Got to love how Timmy shaves the beard, the team ditches the black kicks, and Pop takes Bowen from the starting line up. Whatever it takes to break a bad streak I guess.:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

for those watching the game: How does Tolliver's D look!?

He doesn't seem to be crashing the boards as he should

decent..he's active, but he missed a few rotations and he didn't close out on Lee properly on 1 or 2 plays..

his rebounding is just lack of timing..he's very active going for them, but he didn't time 2 or 3 of them well..

[Brazil]

Pop needs to realize that Tim needs to play big minutes if we want to go anywhere..so we'll see if he plays him as much as he should in the 2nd half..[/quote]

yea but he also needs to keep Tim healthy it's a quite difficult balance to find.

[benefactor]

decent..he's active, but he missed a few rotations and he didn't close out on Lee properly on 1 or 2 plays..

his rebounding is just lack of timing..he's very active going for them, but he didn't time 2 or 3 of them well..
I think some of this is a comfort thing. He seems to have good instincts but needs minutes to get acclimated. He will get plenty of those over the next 10 games.

[byrdman31]

we should come out with a blow out .. that be awesome

[Brazil]

Ime !! reb + layup

[tp2021]

Ime is gettin his rhythm back!

[tomtom]

333333

[Brazil]

Ime again

[pawe]

finally ime

[Spurs Brazil]

Ime 33333333333333333333

[Brazil]

wow

[Ice009]

Like I said Ime. Keep shooting MAN.

REBOUNING from Ime is good.

[byrdman31]

nice ime

[Brazil]

what a start for Ime

[byrdman31]

damn you all im super late on my feed....

[Spurs Brazil]

3rd on TD

[Brazil]

Tim with 3 PF not good

[Manufan909]

damn you all im super late on my feed....

You're not alone.

[pawe]

duhon is a pest

[byrdman31]

WTF duncan never fouls!

[angelbelow]

why take hill out? is he hurt?

[VaSpursFan]

George Hill

[Spurs Brazil]

Hill is back

[Anti.Hero]

Hill Mason. Finally we have found some new guns.

[Spur-Addict]

Damn right G. Hill

[benefactor]

Good rhythm jumper by Hill. Let em fly young man.

[Brazil]

I like Oberto tonight goof effort on reb side and 2-4 he needs to shoot more

[tp2021]

George has good hops.
Fabri and-1!

[lurker23]

why take hill out? is he hurt?

Pop took him out to tell him something important about how to handle the pick and roll on offense. I like it. They did something similar with Ian during the summer league on a consistent basis.

[Spur-Addict]

And 1!

[angelbelow]

Duncan!!!!!!!

[angelbelow]

Pop took him out to tell him something important about how to handle the pick and roll on offense. I like it. They did something similar with Ian during the summer league on a consistent basis.

cool im glad hes not hurt.

[pawe]

fab makes a living off duncan

[mVp]

Hill for 33333!

[tp2021]

Hill for 3!!!!!!
I love this kid!

[benefactor]

Hill for 3!!!!

[byrdman31]

lol im watching it with knicks commentary... they said they better keep vaughn off the paint hes a menace in there. hahaha

[Spurs Brazil]

Oberto and one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hill 3333333333333333333333333

[VaSpursFan]

george hill...bitches!!! i knew the kid was a player

[angelbelow]

3333333333333333

[Anti.Hero]

Tony who?

[DROB4EVER]

Yes, now we are getting some movement on both ends of the floor. Ya know after watching Bonner and Thomas fwale around Oberto looks like a damn good center!

[Brazil]

I like Oberto tonight goof effort on reb side and 2-4 he needs to shoot more

eh eh eh

[benefactor]

I love you man...

[VaSpursFan]

george hill is a fucking beast.

[duncan228]

Hill really impressive.

[Spur-Addict]

Look at G.Hill with the hustle!

[Manufan909]

Hill is a BEAST. He is officially this best rebounder on the team.

[Bartleby]

Hill is making a strong case for JV's early retirement.

[pawe]

george hill is alive!! good steal!

[mVp]

Hill to the lineee

[tomtom]

hill looking sweet!

[Anti.Hero]

SPEEEEED


The Spurs have SPEEEEEED!

[byrdman31]

im liking hill ALOT!!!!! good by jack

[benefactor]

Hill really starting to feel it. He is coming alive.

[Brazil]

really good game for Fab !!!

[tp2021]

Clear out for GH!

[VaSpursFan]

hill just grew up in front of our eyes...his confidence is through the roof!!!

[angelbelow]

damn hill is reallya gressive. i love this.

[Spurs Brazil]

Hill is alive after the last time out

[pawe]

is it just me or does geoge hill really have long arms?

[byrdman31]

Tony who?


:nope good. not great yet

[Russ]

Hill reminds me of ex Trinity Tiger Larry Jeffries.

[Joe Schmoogins]

Hill YEAH!

[angelbelow]

i like ime running the break but i dont like ime to get the ball unless its a offensive rebound.

[Manufan909]

Poor O_V lost the Hill ppg bet. I think I put $333 on it.

[Joe Schmoogins]

decent..he's active, but he missed a few rotations and he didn't close out on Lee properly on 1 or 2 plays..

his rebounding is just lack of timing..he's very active going for them, but he didn't time 2 or 3 of them well..

thanks

[HarlemHeat37]

every time we have a stupid play, the Knicks score on the other end..I like Ime being aggressive, but he doesn't have the ability to run the break..

[tomtom]

ooohoh yeahhhh duncan baby

[benefactor]

Timmy with the grown man move.

[Joe Schmoogins]

we gotta get Timmy going

[Anti.Hero]

Hill is breaking up a lot of these passes lanes with those long ass arms.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tim Duncan!!!

[Joe Schmoogins]

lol nice

[ducks]

Games like this should make Spurs fans appreciate Tim.

it is amazing how much easier it is for duncan and the crew with tp and manu

[Spurs Brazil]

Good D

Spurs up 54-49