Obama has received more threats than any other president-elect, authorities say.

[ducks]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081116/ap_on_re_us/obama_racial_4;_ylt=Am34Xv1qYAhzNaBtccNDYzlh24cA

[Tully365]

Disgusting, and sad.

[ducks]

what do you expect he played the race card first

[Centaur of the Sun]

what do you expect he played the race card first

So that gives the green light for people to threaten his life?

No offense, but you're an abosolute idiot.

It would appear to me that your only redeeming trait is your Spurs fanhood, other than that however, you're a complete waste of carbon.

[Bartleby]

So that gives the green light for people to threaten his life?

No offense, but you're an abosolute idiot.

It would appear to me that your only redeeming trait is your Spurs fanhood, other than that however, you're a complete waste of carbon.

and bandwidth

[ducks]

So that gives the green light for people to threaten his life?

No offense, but you're an abosolute idiot.

It would appear to me that your only redeeming trait is your Spurs fanhood, other than that however, you're a complete waste of carbon.

did I say it was right?
playing the card will get you death threats

[Jelly]

what do you expect he played the race card first

actually, no he didn't. And you're a disgusting human being if you can read that article and feel anything but saddened and repulsed.

[Creepn]

And this is why I generalize all white people being racist.

[Anti.Hero]

E90bs9agdBs

[Jelly]

And this is why I generalize all white people being racist.

this makes you as bad as ducks.
I mean, honestly. What a stupid- and frankly, racist - thing to say. If we are all racists, how did Obama get elected? Why did so many of us (whites) dedicate so much time, money and energy over the past two years campaigning for Obama. I wish you would have told me and my whites friends we were all racist way back then before we invested so much of our hearts and souls trying to get Obama to the White House.

[ducks]

And this is why I generalize all white people being racist.

who says I am black or white
my typing is in black:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Bartleby]

But your background is white

[samikeyp]

How many were not by Yonivore, Anti-Hero and Ducks?

[ploto]

Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change.

"If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported," he said.

He wants all the Christians deported??

[ducks]

I think he wanted the Obama's pastor who preaches to hate whites deported and the people who believe that

[ducks]

obama went to a church for 20 years and listens to a pastor who preaches to hate whites and wants to know people want to know why he has racism threats

[samikeyp]

So if you don't like someone that a person knows, even if that person no longer associates with that person, you threaten him?

[ducks]

I do not
do you?

[samikeyp]

I do not
do you?

No but you seem to think its ok otherwise why post it?

[ducks]

I thought people might be intersted in this since people here voted for obama

[samikeyp]

um..ok.

[possessed]

He wants all the Christians deported??

Sounds like a plan.

[florige]

this makes you as bad as ducks.
I mean, honestly. What a stupid- and frankly, racist - thing to say. If we are all racists, how did Obama get elected? Why did so many of us (whites) dedicate so much time, money and energy over the past two years campaigning for Obama. I wish you would have told me and my whites friends we were all racist way back then before we invested so much of our hearts and souls trying to get Obama to the White House.



Dude, why do you even waste your breath debating idiots like this? Only a complete moron would believe something that retarded. Especially of what just happened a week ago.

[Cry Havoc]

what do you expect he played the race card first

I don't say this lightly, but you're a fucking retard.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol @ people being surprised by ducks' idiocy

[Spurminator]

Yeah if Obama hadn't played the race card, racists might not have even KNOWN he was black... Serves him right.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yeah if Obama hadn't played the race card, racists might not have even KNOWN he was black... Serves him right.

:lol

[Creepn]

this makes you as bad as ducks.
If we are all racists, how did Obama get elected? Why did so many of us (whites) dedicate so much time, money and energy over the past two years campaigning for Obama. I wish you would have told me and my whites friends we were all racist way back then before we invested so much of our hearts and souls trying to get Obama to the White House.

Maybe because.......you didnt want another republican in the House?

[kwhitegocubs]

If you are hell bent on believing all white people are racist, no proof (no matter how thorough) will discourage you.

ducks - I'm new here, but you are disturbingly narrow-minded and callous

[Warlord23]

ducks doesn't have a mind, narrow or otherwise. All his thoughts come straight out of his ass.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Yeah if Obama hadn't played the race card, racists might not have even KNOWN he was black... Serves him right.

maybe they woulda only seen the white half.

[The Franchise]

He wants all the Christians deported??

Get it done. America would be much more peaceful.

[ducks]

why did the dem go register new black voters so he would get elected
they knew the new black voters would vote for obama because he was black

the young new black voters got obama to be the president
and people who just wanted change even if it would be bad

[Jelly]

Dude, why do you even waste your breath debating idiots like this? Only a complete moron would believe something that retarded. Especially of what just happened a week ago.

I don't know. I'm obviously some kind of masochist, because some of these threads get me so pissed off I have to back away from my computer.
..... and I'm not a dude. Not that it matters.

[Creepn]

If you are hell bent on believing all white people are racist, no proof (no matter how thorough) will discourage you.


Nah Im not hell bent on it, its just a little nagging thing I have in the back of my mind thats all. I mean like I've said before, I've hung out with white people that I didnt think they had a racist bone in their body until I busted in on them.

You know, its kind of like a girl whos been cheated on by 10 guys and shes gonna eventually think that all guys are dogs.

[Jelly]

Maybe because.......you didnt want another republican in the House?

but outside of that, I'm probably a racist? fuck you.

[Creepn]

but outside of that, I'm probably a racist? fuck you.

All I can say is if your not, COOL! Many smiley faces! :p: :toast;) All that good shit.

But if you are, wouldnt be suprised.

[johnsmith]

Nah Im not hell bent on it, its just a little nagging thing I have in the back of my mind thats all. I mean like I've said before, I've hung out with white people that I didnt think they had a racist bone in their body until I busted in on them.

You know, its kind of like a girl whos been cheated on by 10 guys and shes gonna eventually think that all guys are dogs.

Fuck you! Go back to your native land!:lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And this is why I generalize all white people being racist.

Way to be an ignorant dumbass.


Anyone who cares about this country should be hoping and praying Obama is not assassinated. That even would be one of the darkest in American history, and likely set off race wars in several parts of the U.S., whether or not the assassination was racially motivated or not

[Tully365]

And this is why I generalize all white people being racist.


Way to be an ignorant dumbass.


Anyone who cares about this country should be hoping and praying Obama is not assassinated. That even would be one of the darkest in American history, and likely set off race wars in several parts of the U.S., whether or not the assassination was racially motivated or not

This doesn't happen very frequently, but I gotta side with Aggie on this one...

[Creepn]

Besides the "ignorant dumbass" comment, I agree with Aggie on that too.

[v2freak]

So that gives the green light for people to threaten his life?

No offense, but you're an abosolute idiot.

It would appear to me that your only redeeming trait is your Spurs fanhood, other than that however, you're a complete waste of carbon.

He said nothing about it being right...

Considering how much he won by, I'm amazed that the transgressions of a few are leading people to make mass generalizations.

And again I'm intrigued by the fact that half black = black.

[Heath Ledger]

Ya it must really suck to be the first bi-racial president....

[Creepn]

And again I'm intrigued by the fact that half black = black.

People of color are black. Thats all there is to it. I'm half black and every single white guy says I'm a black guy.

[kwhitegocubs]

He said he was intrigued by the notion. You are simply saying it is true, therefore it is true, rather than explaining why it is true.

I think it is crazy. You go to Europe - Swedish people and Italians look different, speak a different language, have vastly different cultures, etc... Yet in America it is just assumed that white people=white.

But when it comes to notions of race and mixed-race, Europeans are generally flabbergasted by our focue on the notion of labelling someone based on skin color.

The problem is compartmentalization - people are individuals, and it seems that all sides continually re-inforce the notion of their allegiance to a racial, religious, or ethnic group in a way that forces them apart from their shared humanity with others.

[Tully365]

People of color are black. Thats all there is to it. I'm half black and every single white guy says I'm a black guy.

The fact that lots of people are wrong about something does not turn it into a fact. In the 1490s, most Europeans thought Cuba and the Dominican Republic were islands off of a landmass that was connected to Asia.

[jochhejaam]

I don't say this lightly, but you're a fucking retard.

What part of "he played the race card first" didn't you understand?

[Jelly]

He said he was intrigued by the notion. You are simply saying it is true, therefore it is true, rather than explaining why it is true.

I think it is crazy. You go to Europe - Swedish people and Italians look different, speak a different language, have vastly different cultures, etc... Yet in America it is just assumed that white people=white.

But when it comes to notions of race and mixed-race, Europeans are generally flabbergasted by our focue on the notion of labelling someone based on skin color.

The problem is compartmentalization - people are individuals, and it seems that all sides continually re-inforce the notion of their allegiance to a racial, religious, or ethnic group in a way that forces them apart from their shared humanity with others.

You are looking at Europe through some very rose-colored glasses and is probably based on Europe back when individual countries like Sweden were completely homogenized. (nothing impressive about a society saying they don't have racial problems when they only have one race) There are major racial and ethnic tensions throughout Europe, frequent riots, and people of color suffer widespread discrimination and harassment. Look it up. (And yes, this has even become a problem in Sweden.)

[Spur-Addict]

People of color are black. Thats all there is to it. I'm half black and every single white guy says I'm a black guy.

Do you often listen to what every white man tells you? :lol

The tediousness of racial identification, that is non existent in realistic aspects. What kills me is that we go through great lengths to specify most things in this world, put an exact tag on it, but when it comes to man, well a broad brush is sufficient. Get real, seriously.

[Heath Ledger]

The only time Obama is "Black" is when the lights go out, we're all black when the lights go out. Aside from that he is bi-racial or mulatto. I find it hilarious that in general bi-racial people get a lot of flack from the black community yet they are quick to claim Obama as one of their own. So in effect he is the first bi-racial or mulatto elected president. Here is a video for your enjoyment.

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Fuck white people!

[Cry Havoc]

He said he was intrigued by the notion. You are simply saying it is true, therefore it is true, rather than explaining why it is true.

I think it is crazy. You go to Europe - Swedish people and Italians look different, speak a different language, have vastly different cultures, etc... Yet in America it is just assumed that white people=white.

But when it comes to notions of race and mixed-race, Europeans are generally flabbergasted by our focue on the notion of labelling someone based on skin color.

The problem is compartmentalization - people are individuals, and it seems that all sides continually re-inforce the notion of their allegiance to a racial, religious, or ethnic group in a way that forces them apart from their shared humanity with others.

I'm not entirely sure I agree with this. There have been numerous events in Europe that have shown Europeans to have LARGE racist contingents just like in America. The most notable reference I can think of:

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1798795,00.html

It's true that I first thought of the futbol world, where beer and the fan-based competitiveness may fuel such acts, but the fact remains that it is still there, and prevalent.

[v2freak]

lol, I'm glad I sparked some thought-provoking posts on Obama's ethnicity. I am just tired of all of this "first Black president" business; I don't think it has any place in the news. Why should it matter? Even if there were a few retards who voted or didn't vote for him because of his [perceived] skin color, it doesn't mean that his ethnicity should be counted along with his credentials.

Anyway, shame about the death threats. That's messed up.

[Spurminator]

I am just tired of all of this "first Black president" business; I don't think it has any place in the news. Why should it matter?


http://blog.lib.umn.edu/atschrag/classes/images/Duluth-lynching-postcard.jpg

[v2freak]

Care to give more of an explanation than a picture please?

[samikeyp]

why did the dem go register new black voters so he would get elected
they knew the new black voters would vote for obama because he was black

the young new black voters got obama to be the president
and people who just wanted change even if it would be bad

The Dems have been working on getting black voters registered since '64.

[ducks]

The Dems have been working on getting black voters registered since '64.

much easier to actually get it done with a black candiate huh

[samikeyp]

So help me out here...I am a white guy how voted for Obama...am I racist or half-black?

:lol

[Spurminator]

Care to give more of an explanation than a picture please?


Not really.

[samikeyp]

much easier to actually get it done with a black candiate huh

No doubt but you insinuated that it was only done this time around and solely because of Obama.

I understand that you, much like Yonivore and others, are hoping to see Obama with a bullet in his head but while I do believe that people voted for (and against) Obama because of his race, there are people out there, black and white, who voted for him because they thought he was the best choice.

[Creepn]

Get real here, you all are trying to substitute reality with knowledge.

If Barack Obama, BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA, was walking down the street as a regular joe and asked anybody, white, black, mexican, whoever, what his ethnicity was, NONE of them will say that he is a white guy. Over 90% would say he is a black man.

Black people in America is a mixed bunch for people of color, not just African Americans that gets thrown into that category so Barack Obama inlcuding myself are black folks.

Also if you wanna get legal about it, you determine your ethnicity by who your father is anyway.

[v2freak]

Maybe, but he isn't just a regular joe. Labeling yourself one race has political and social implications.

[Creepn]

Maybe, but he isn't just a regular joe. Labeling yourself one race has political and social implications.

Yeah now that hes not a regular joe, the majority of non-blacks are now like "Uh duuuuh I dont understand duuuh why black people claim him duuuuuuh".

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I am just tired of all of this "first Black president" business; I don't think it has any place in the news. Why should it matter?

The answer to this question is so extensive and complex, most people would rather just give you a clue and hope you figure out the rest (I.E. Spurminator)

First of all, I understand where you are coming from. In an ideal world, race shouldn't matter.

Reality however, is not ideal, and racial discrimination is very real. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the black minority of America feels better represented by a black man, someone that is more likely to have lived their discrimination first hand, than by a white man. It doesn't really matter if it turns out to be true, the fact of the matter is it happens. Its not about whether or not it SHOULD matter (it shouldn't), but that it does.

Plus, anyone that knows anything understood that if there ever was a black president, the issue of race is something that would be unavoidable, as indeed it was in this campaign.

Now, just knowing about the history of the US should be enough to make you understand how momentous an occasion we're living here. To have a black president elected just 50 some odd years removed from Brown v. Board of education?? That is light speed social evolution man! Its something to be extremely proud of. Hell, I'm not American and I'm proud of your achievement as a fellow human being.

[Tully365]

As a news story or a sociological study, the election of Obama is interesting for many reasons. I'll give you one: the USA was behind the curve in terms of making slavery illegal-- countries like England and France made slavery illegal before the US did, and there are many examples of Europeans actually making fun of the American revolution and the jeffersonian concept of "freedom," calling it absurd and clueless for a country with legal slavery to be shouting loudly for freedom and the pursuit of happiness for all people, but then not counting people of color as actual people. So for this same country to elect a racially mixed leader at an earlier point in time than any of those European countries (especially those that were so influential to Jefferson's philosophies) is a very unique and surprising development in world history.

[Tully365]

Hell, I'm not American and I'm proud of your achievement as a fellow human being.

This sums up another aspect of it. It has been a while since the entire earth has looked to the US as an undeniable leader and innovator... for a racially divided world, the election of a racially mixed person to the position of President of the United States is the most original thing that has happened since the original moon landing. Even avowed enemies have to shake their heads in wonder and admit that this election has dismissed many long-held criticisms of this country.

[Creepn]

The answer to this question is so extensive and complex, most people would rather just give you a clue and hope you figure out the rest (I.E. Spurminator)

First of all, I understand where you are coming from. In an ideal world, race shouldn't matter.

Reality however, is not ideal, and racial discrimination is very real. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the black minority of America feels better represented by a black man, someone that is more likely to have lived their discrimination first hand, than by a white man. It doesn't really matter if it turns out to be true, the fact of the matter is it happens. Its not about whether or not it SHOULD matter (it shouldn't), but that it does.

Plus, anyone that knows anything understood that if there ever was a black president, the issue of race is something that would be unavoidable, as indeed it was in this campaign.

Now, just knowing about the history of the US should be enough to make you understand how momentous an occasion we're living here. To have a black president elected just 50 some odd years removed from Brown v. Board of education?? That is light speed social evolution man! Its something to be extremely proud of. Hell, I'm not American and I'm proud of your achievement as a fellow human being.

Wow your not even American and yet you have a better understanding about this more than most Americans I know. Good Post. :tu

[florige]

I don't know. I'm obviously some kind of masochist, because some of these threads get me so pissed off I have to back away from my computer.
..... and I'm not a dude. Not that it matters.


I actually thought about that after I sent it.... Sorry.

[jman3000]

nm

[smeagol]

I've been saying ducks is an idiot for the longest time.

Nice to see others catching up with the program . . .

[smeagol]

much easier to actually get it done with a black candiate huh

So ducks, what's your ethnic background? You are clearly not black. Are you white? Latino?

[Jelly]

I actually thought about that after I sent it.... Sorry.

no worries :)

[Jelly]

The answer to this question is so extensive and complex, most people would rather just give you a clue and hope you figure out the rest (I.E. Spurminator)

First of all, I understand where you are coming from. In an ideal world, race shouldn't matter.

Reality however, is not ideal, and racial discrimination is very real. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the black minority of America feels better represented by a black man, someone that is more likely to have lived their discrimination first hand, than by a white man. It doesn't really matter if it turns out to be true, the fact of the matter is it happens. Its not about whether or not it SHOULD matter (it shouldn't), but that it does.

.

Manumaniac, you get more and more logical as the years go by. You are becoming the voice of reason at Spurstalk :king

[v2freak]

The answer to this question is so extensive and complex, most people would rather just give you a clue and hope you figure out the rest (I.E. Spurminator)

First of all, I understand where you are coming from. In an ideal world, race shouldn't matter.

Reality however, is not ideal, and racial discrimination is very real. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the black minority of America feels better represented by a black man, someone that is more likely to have lived their discrimination first hand, than by a white man. It doesn't really matter if it turns out to be true, the fact of the matter is it happens. Its not about whether or not it SHOULD matter (it shouldn't), but that it does.

Plus, anyone that knows anything understood that if there ever was a black president, the issue of race is something that would be unavoidable, as indeed it was in this campaign.

Now, just knowing about the history of the US should be enough to make you understand how momentous an occasion we're living here. To have a black president elected just 50 some odd years removed from Brown v. Board of education?? That is light speed social evolution man! Its something to be extremely proud of. Hell, I'm not American and I'm proud of your achievement as a fellow human being.

Thank you. I understand the situation a bit better now.


However, I am not quite as impressed as you are. The fact remains that many either voted or did not vote for him simply because of his race. This is nothing short of retarded.

[ClingingMars]

he did play the race card, but politicians don't deserve death threats. especially our President Elect. that's simply going to get you in jail. it's stupid and pointless. if you disagree with him like me, fine, but he's our President, so we gotta deal with what we got. There will be no "He's not my President" bullshit from me, ala GWB.

-Mars

[Creepn]

When exactly did Obama play the race card?

[clambake]

When exactly did Obama play the race card?

i'm gonna go republican here and say "when he announced his intention to run".

[Spur-Addict]

Get real here, you all are trying to substitute reality with knowledge.

If Barack Obama, BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA, was walking down the street as a regular joe and asked anybody, white, black, mexican, whoever, what his ethnicity was, NONE of them will say that he is a white guy. Over 90% would say he is a black man.

Black people in America is a mixed bunch for people of color, not just African Americans that gets thrown into that category so Barack Obama inlcuding myself are black folks.

Also if you wanna get legal about it, you determine your ethnicity by who your father is anyway.

Reality with knowledge? Or do you mean to replace what supposedly is with what should be? Even the Spanish do a better job with racial identification, so it's not like the world doesn't see this, and even if it didn't it still wouldn't be right.

Are you in agreement with this form of identification? DO you think it's just to be thrown into a mass category, while others have their specifications? There is no fairness there.

I don't care what the common Joe has to say about this, because the common Joe isn't mixed. The common Joe most often could care less. This isn't an issue that is going to just go away either, the population of mixed people is only going to increase.

So, the law is right no matter what? Even if what you say is law, doesn't mean it is correct. If the law says you should be a slave, would you agree with this law? If the law impedes in anyway upon your freedoms would you still agree with it?

It sounds like you are going along to get along.

[Creepn]

Reality with knowledge? Or do you mean to replace what supposedly is with what should be? Even the Spanish do a better job with racial identification, so it's not like the world doesn't see this, and even if it didn't it still wouldn't be right.

We can say what it is supposed to be all day but will that change reality at the moment? Like for example we can say players of a certian basketball team have great stats and pull in great numbers. With stats like that, they should win the next freakin championship. But is that championship really a reality? Not really because there are many other factors that could hinder a championship run.

And we sure do got a lot of factors here in America.



Are you in agreement with this form of identification? DO you think it's just to be thrown into a mass category, while others have their specifications? There is no fairness there.

Honestly, Im ok with the identification because I've been treated as a person that is in the mass category. Its been ingrained into me since childhood. Thats basic human survival instinct too. You stick with your group.

Even if bi-racial people did have their own specifications, they still will be thrown into the mass category and possibly treated as such. Some people think Barbosa from the Suns is black but hes not! He's freakin Brazilian.



I don't care what the common Joe has to say about this, because the common Joe isn't mixed. The common Joe most often could care less. This isn't an issue that is going to just go away either, the population of mixed people is only going to increase.

Yeah no doubt it will increase. I agree with you there. Until then maybe thats when things will change.



So, the law is right no matter what? Even if what you say is law, doesn't mean it is correct. If the law says you should be a slave, would you agree with this law? If the law impedes in anyway upon your freedoms would you still agree with it?

Your comparison is kind of extreme because I won't go to jail for putting down different ethniticies on applications. I do that all the time. It's not really impeding on my freedoms.

I understand what you are saying though but this whole race thing is more of a social thing than a law thing. I mean shit, back in those slave days Im sure white people thought owning a slave was not entirely a good thing but society at the time deemed it acceptable.



It sounds like you are going along to get along.

Yup, and so is everybody else.

[kwhitegocubs]

But, Creepn, it seems to me that you believe that identifying reality is the same thing as justification. Giving into the system as it stands is what SLOWS the positive progress of history. If no one is willing to buck "reality" and attempt a stand based on ideology/knowledge/philosophy, then all the idealists will simply become realists (and in many cases, cynics) and be in perfect place to quash all the future generations of idealists into becoming like themselves, etc....

Going along to get along is saying, "I'm not sure the world will ever get better, so why even try". A self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Creepn]

But, Creepn, it seems to me that you believe that identifying reality is the same thing as justification. Giving into the system as it stands is what SLOWS the positive progress of history. If no one is willing to buck "reality" and attempt a stand based on ideology/knowledge/philosophy, then all the idealists will simply become realists (and in many cases, cynics) and be in perfect place to quash all the future generations of idealists into becoming like themselves, etc....

Going along to get along is saying, "I'm not sure the world will ever get better, so why even try". A self-fulfilling prophecy.

That's pretty inspiring but I wouldnt even know where to start. What would be the official name for bi-racial people? Certianly not mutt or half-breed or half-afros as another certian poster put it.

"Bi-Racial"? No. Thats like saying "My name is Name.".

[kwhitegocubs]

My point is that there shouldn't be an official OR un-official name. The idea is to progress towards a society free of labels and necessary allegiance to cliques and such. At least, that is my idea.

[Creepn]

HA! Thats cute.

[kwhitegocubs]

See, you already completely missed the gist of my earlier comment. You've given in. I guess it is easier to give in than go against the current, but not more admirable.

[Creepn]

Well, whats stopping you?

[cherylsteele]

Yeah if Obama hadn't played the race card, racists might not have even KNOWN he was black... Serves him right.
He's black?!? A black president?!?

Signed,
The citizens of Rock Ridge

[RandomGuy]

Way to be an ignorant dumbass.


Anyone who cares about this country should be hoping and praying Obama is not assassinated. That even would be one of the darkest in American history, and likely set off race wars in several parts of the U.S., whether or not the assassination was racially motivated or not

I had almost forgotten the assassination threats on Obama when he took office.

[SpursforSix]

I had almost forgotten the assassination threats on Obama when he took office.

The problem is those were just from right wing nuts. Trumps got to worry about the New World Order Globalist Illuminati going after him.