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timvp
11-16-2008, 02:10 AM
Although the calendar says November, this win was much more remarkable than a typical November NBA game. With the talented Houston Rockets in town, the San Antonio Spurs were given little chance to be victorious on Friday night. But thanks to a late burst, the Spurs snuck away with a 77-75 win.

Down by as many as 14 points in the fourth quarter, the Spurs just kept plugging away. While their defense was good all night, San Antonio took it up another notch with about four minutes to go in the game. Down ten points at that point, the Spurs held the Rockets scoreless the rest of the way. The exclamation point on their defensive effort came when Tim Duncan blocked a runner by Aaron Brooks with under two seconds to play.

Although the Rockets feature an extremely talented roster, it’s obvious that their team hasn’t meshed yet. There was little cohesion to their play, especially offensively. They will probably turn it around at some point this season, but right now they are getting by on individual ability alone.

For the Spurs, this was a significant win. After losing a number of close games, the Spurs were able to get one to go their way. Most importantly, the Spurs played very good defense for the third game in a row and proved that it’s possible to win due mainly to defensive effort. That should be good for the team’s confidence as they try to stay afloat with Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker sidelined.

Tim Duncan
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40 minutes, 22 points, five rebounds, two assists
8-for-15 from the field, 6-for-8 at the line

Although Tim Duncan’s stat line looks similar to his production against the Milwaukee Bucks, I thought he played much better. He had his hands full with Yao Ming on both ends of the court but he did well against him. Duncan’s rebounding numbers were again low but he boxed out well and was very good in the half court defensive sets. His rotations were quick and he was physical on his post defense. On offense, Duncan had a good showing even though the Rockets constantly threw different looks at him and sent a lot of help. Overall, it was an unspectacular yet solid performance.
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Roger Mason, Jr.
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38 minutes, nine points, nine rebounds, two assists
3-for-8 from the field, 2-for-6 on three-pointers

Roger Mason, Jr. continues to struggle shooting the basketball but he found ways to help on Friday night. His rebounding was very good – with his nine rebounds leading the team. He also had a key assist on a Matt Bonner three-pointer during the game winning 12-0 run. Defensively, this might have been Mason’s best game of the season. He did a very good job of defending Tracy McGrady and even held his own in the post against Ron Artest. Mason’s shooting (28.9% in his last four games) is a bit of a concern but his shot selection has been good and as long as he can contribute in other ways, he’ll continue to get a healthy amount of playing time.
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Ime Udoka
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ten minutes, three turnovers
0-for-2 from the field

Since being given the starting small forward job, Ime Udoka has fallen on his face. Over the last three games, he’s been horrible. His game against the Rockets took Udoka’s level of play to a whole new low. Three turnovers, two missed shots and literally nothing else in ten minutes isn’t exactly what Pop had in mind when he gave Udoka his new role. I’m not sure if Udoka is playing scared or if he is intimidated because he supplanted Bruce Bowen, but he needs to snap out of it. At the very least, pulling down a couple rebounds could help.
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George Hill
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36 minutes, 17 points, six rebounds, five assists
8-for-13 from the field, 1-for-2 on three-pointers

Spurs fans have to be excited from what they saw out of George Hill against the Rockets. The rookie point guard was extremely impressive in virtually every facet of the game. Defensively, he was very energetic, caused a lot of havoc and rebounded well. On offense, he was much more aggressive and was amazing finishing around the basket. Hill also played at a good pace and didn’t force the issue – as evident by his turnover-less outing. For a small school product who is converting from shooting guard, it’s tough to expect much more out of him. Going forward, the main key for Hill is that he avoids passive offensive play as much as possible. When he doesn’t attack, it becomes almost impossible for the Spurs to score on a consistent basis.
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Fabricio Oberto
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14 minutes, four points, three rebounds
2-for-4 from the field

Fabricio Oberto had a non-descript showing against the Rockets. On the plus side, he hit a couple of outside jumpers when left unguarded and played good positional defense. But Pop eventually looked elsewhere, largely due to the fact that the Rockets were ignoring Oberto on the offensive end. His two jumpers were a start but for Oberto to keep other teams honest, he’s going to have to look for his own offense more and more.
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Michael Finley
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24 minutes, five points, two rebounds, two assists
2-for-6 from the field, 1-for-2 on three-pointers

Michael Finley actually played well despite his pedestrian statistics. He was active defensively and made smart decisions offensively. Though Finley didn’t score as well as he had the last few games, his overall game was good enough to warrant playing time. The good news regarding Finley is he looks comfortable off the bench. Against the Rockets, he hit a shot less than five seconds after entering the game. If he can keep playing hard and keep heating up quickly, Finley has a chance to be an effective player until at least Ginobili returns.
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Matt Bonner
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20 minutes, 11 points, two rebounds
4-for-6 from the field, 3-for-4 on three-pointers

Talk about coming out of nowhere. Matt Bonner, who had been left for dead after a poor start to the season, played very, very well against the Rockets. In fact, it may have been one of his very best games as a Spur. The aspect that stood out the most regarding Bonner was his demeanor. His typical happy-go-lucky attitude was replaced by a stoic, businesslike approach. It translated to the court as Bonner played much smarter than usual. His defense was almost flawless and he did a good job of boxing out for most of the game. Bonner was especially impressive defensively when switched onto a smaller player – an area he usually struggles. Offensively, he took shots with confidence and didn’t deviate from the game plan. On the whole, if Bonner can play like this on a nightly basis, he’s going to be playing a lot more minutes. Let’s hope it wasn’t a fluke.
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Bruce Bowen
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14 minutes, three rebounds

Bruce Bowen wasn’t needed much against Houston. With Mason doing a good job on McGrady, Pop was free to put more offense on the court. However, when Bowen was in there, he again played good defense. While the adjustment coming from the starting lineup couldn’t have been easy, Bowen has handled it perfectly. There have been no complaints and he has come in and defended much better than he was to start the season. If Udoka can locate his head, playing Bowen off the bench could not only help the team, but also extend Bowen’s career.
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Kurt Thomas
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10 minutes, three points, four rebounds
1-for-7 from the field, 1-for-2 at the line


While his stats look bad, Kurt Thomas didn’t play too horribly. He didn’t play well but two of his six misses were desperation shots at the buzzer and his overall energy was higher than we’ve seen in most of his other outings this season. Thomas was also physical defensively and did a good job on the boards. His production is still a far cry from how he played last season but at least he looks capable of playing a Kevin Willis or Tony Massenburg type role.
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Jacque Vaughn
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Seven minutes, four points, two assists
1-for-4 from the field, 2-for-2 at the line

Jacque Vaughn wasn’t very good. He made a few nice moves but the end result was a miss. Although, Vaughn did help out in terms of upping the aggressiveness level and playing pretty good defense.
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Anthony Tolliver
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four minutes, two points, one rebound
1-for-2 from the field, 0-for-1 at the line

Anthony Tolliver had a steal and breakaway dunk but was soon after benched for the rest of the game. I don’t suspect it was anything he necessarily did wrong, I just think that Pop gave Bonner a shot since he’s more physical, a better rebounder and a more proven shooter. Tolliver has a number of impressive qualities but his rebounding and shot-making abilities have yet to be established on the NBA level. Against a team like the Rockets, who have rugged interior players and a good defensive scheme, Tolliver still has work to do to prove he can hang.
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Gregg Popovich
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For the most part, I thought Pop coached a good game. Sticking with Hill was definitely the right move and hopefully we see more of that in upcoming contests. Pulling Bonner out of his hat turned out to be a great move. Pop also has to be very happy that the team has responded to his pleas regarding better defensive effort. The only real negative was that Duncan had to again play 40 minutes – although this win was probably worth the extended playing time. Also, I think Pop needs to consider using Mason as the backup point guard instead of Vaughn.
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Offense

With current group of healthy players, it’s amazing how much of the effectiveness of the offense is dependent on the guards being aggressive. When the Spurs don’t have Hill or Mason attacking, the offense instantly stagnates – as we saw for long stretches in the second half. The guards being aggressive opens up shots for the three-point shooters and gives Duncan room to operate. Overall, the offense was decent enough. The Spurs ended up shooting 44.8% from the field, 43.8% from three-point land and 71.4% at the free throw stripe. They'll usually need to score more than 77 points to win, however, so hopefully things get smoother and smoother as the team learns to play without their star guards.

Defense

The defense was very good for the third consecutive game. The Rockets shot only 40% from the field and only got to the free throw line 11 times. Rebounding was once again a problem as Houston got ten offensive rebounds but the Spurs did a better job in that category as the game went along. In the first five games of the season, the Spurs gave up 105 points per game. In the last three, that number has been lowered to 79 points per game. If San Antonio can continue to play this brand of defense, they’ll be able to win games no matter which names are on the back of the jerseys.

Drive to Survive

After a day off, the Spurs now have a two-game road trip that has them playing the Sacramento Kings and the Los Angeles Clippers in a back-to-back. Both of these games are winnable if the defense of late shows up, but the team can't expect any easy victories at this point. To keep the momentum from the Rockets victory, the Spurs need to at least split this road trip.

Believe.

Cant_Be_Faded
11-16-2008, 02:13 AM
Ticket Tickkkahhhh

Notice timvp's final sentence, saying we need to at least split the upcoming cupcake schedule to keep the momentum up......lawl....even timvp realizes we suck
contrarrrrriaaaannn

maybe if he removed that fatcheeked bastard from his avatar and put in an old school duncan avatar we'd get back on track.....

Borosai
11-16-2008, 02:42 AM
Championship!

MannyIsGod
11-16-2008, 03:46 AM
I don't know what Kurt Thomas you watched, but the one I saw was fucking HORRIBLE and did nothing redeeming at all.

timvp
11-16-2008, 03:47 AM
I don't know what Kurt Thomas you watched, but the one I saw was fucking HORRIBLE and did nothing redeeming at all.Compared to his earlier work this season, he looked like David Robinson out there . . .

The Truth #6
11-16-2008, 03:56 AM
For the first time as a Spur, KT has finally shown that he has a jump shot. For that alone, I would call it progress.

Manu-of-steel
11-16-2008, 04:03 AM
thanx timvp for the recap. hope hill continue to shine with the spurs. and mason, thought twas not a good shooting night for him, really did a good job in other department, like assissting and rebounding, and defense.

lefty
11-16-2008, 04:46 AM
Bruce Bowen played only 14 minutes in a very defensive game, and against a team that has different offensive weapons.

It's a good sign, as our D has stepped up big time.

Brazil
11-16-2008, 07:08 AM
great read as usual. The very good news is G. Hill he seems to have the potential to be a very good player in the league.

mrspurs
11-16-2008, 08:38 AM
What surprised me was the team didnt quit. Thats been a trend around here since the last all star break. I figured once the Spurs were down by double digits they would quit. But they didnt and look what happened.

myhc
11-16-2008, 09:50 AM
Thanks timvp for the recap! I always look forward to your game summaries. :flag:

Obstructed_View
11-16-2008, 12:00 PM
What surprised me was the team didnt quit. Thats been a trend around here since the last all star break. I figured once the Spurs were down by double digits they would quit. But they didnt and look what happened.

Second time I've seen you say that. I'm not sure what you think you know about last year, but the Spurs haven't quit once this season. They've made late runs in virtually every game so far, even in the games where they were down 20 in the fourth quarter. Their defense fell on its face against Milwaukee and they still came back at the end and almost pulled it out.

I swear, sometimes I think you don't even bother to watch the games.

Obstructed_View
11-16-2008, 12:03 PM
And I think I'd rather see Vaughn in there missing layups than Mason at the point. The Spurs' offense works better when someone penetrates with the ball, and Mason hasn't exactly done that. Again, I'd rather Pop just tell JV that he's only allowed to take a shot if he's within five feet of the rim or if he's wide open with less than five, no, four, three seconds on the shot clock.

Whisky Dog
11-16-2008, 12:22 PM
Blake is coming to the PG rescue

Obstructed_View
11-16-2008, 12:27 PM
Blake is coming to the PG rescue

Yeah, either I hadn't seen that before I posted or it hadn't sunk in yet. Vaughn plays good defense though and doesn't have to score, or even take shots to contribute. There's only one ball and the Spurs play a slow pace; I don't know that I want shots going to guys who can't play.

Manufan909
11-17-2008, 12:15 AM
Fuck, why didn't hill step up tonight like he did in this game? Did he succeed in other areas?

timvp
11-17-2008, 12:16 AM
Fuck, why didn't hill step up tonight like he did in this game? Did he succeed in other areas?Hill is going to be inconsistent. As long as he pulls out a good game every second or third outing, I'll be happy. Rookie point guard at a new position with limited scoring threats around him? That's about as tough as it gets.

Manufan909
11-17-2008, 12:18 AM
True. So was his D up to par, or at least serviceable?

timvp
11-17-2008, 12:20 AM
True. So was his D up to par, or at least serviceable?

Nothing spectacular but he harassed Beno pretty well. Forced him into some turnovers and missed shots.