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HarlemHeat37
11-18-2008, 12:50 AM
our inbounding..what the hell is going on here? 5 second violations, turnovers..every inbound coming down to the last second of the 5..it's getting ridiculous..it shouldn't be such a problem for us..

lefty
11-18-2008, 12:51 AM
our inbounding..what the hell is going on here? 5 second violations, turnovers..every inbound coming down to the last second of the 5..it's getting ridiculous..it shouldn't be such a problem for us..

Answer: Vaughn and Findog

timvp
11-18-2008, 12:52 AM
our inbounding..what the hell is going on here? 5 second violations, turnovers..every inbound coming down to the last second of the 5..it's getting ridiculous..it shouldn't be such a problem for us..New Rule ... Michael Finley isn't allowed to inbounds the ball. That'd solve all the problems.

SequSpur
11-18-2008, 12:52 AM
Poor coaching.

alchemist
11-18-2008, 12:52 AM
you have to give credit to the Clippers for creating that pressure, Camby was huge on those plays........

Anti.Hero
11-18-2008, 12:52 AM
Finley is going to have 0 confidence inbounding now.

m33p0
11-18-2008, 12:53 AM
Poor coaching.
:td Pop made the gutsy move to call for a 3 pt play to win the game.

lefty
11-18-2008, 12:53 AM
Finley is going to have 0 confidence inbounding now.

Nickanderson syndrome

HarlemHeat37
11-18-2008, 12:54 AM
I'm not just talking about tonight..we had the same problems vs. Sacramento..

we shouldn't be turning the ball over on an inbound with 50 seconds left and a tie game though..ridiculous..

Obstructed_View
11-18-2008, 01:25 AM
It's SO much easier to inbound the ball when you have Manu and Parker out there running around. I'm just sayin'...

T Park
11-18-2008, 01:26 AM
I'd say let Mason or Duncan inbound the ball instead of Finley, and you'd solve about 90% of the above problems.

timvp
11-18-2008, 01:26 AM
Finley's inbounding problems started earlier in the season when he missed both Mason and Duncan wide open for game winners and instead threw it to Parker who had to shoot an off balanced three.

Yet Pop just keeps letting him inbound . . .

baseline bum
11-18-2008, 01:28 AM
Finley's inbounding problems started earlier in the season when he missed both Mason and Duncan wide open for game winners and instead threw it to Parker who had to shoot an off balanced three.

Yet Pop just keeps letting him inbound . . .

Doesn't make any sense since Finley is usually a good option coming off a screen in a catch and shoot situation at the end of a game.

xtremesteven33
11-18-2008, 01:28 AM
Duncan is the best inbound passer on the team.....WHY DOESNT HE DO IT???!!!

Finley seems like he constantly chokes or has some of the slowest reactions on the team...i hate to question Pop but, man he must have some kind of explanation for letting him inbound the last offensive possesion after he threw away the 2nd to last one....

T Park
11-18-2008, 01:38 AM
Doesn't make any sense since Finley is usually a good option coming off a screen in a catch and shoot situation at the end of a game.

Which IMO, they don't run that play enough.

That play should be run about 8 times a game, minimum.

thekingrobert
11-18-2008, 01:49 AM
i see many inbounding drills in practice upcoming

xellos88330
11-18-2008, 01:51 AM
It isn't all Finleys fault. There were 2, 5 second violations in 4 seconds. The others were just bad screening on the inbounds plays. After the screens were bad, nobody would move to get open.

duncan228
11-18-2008, 01:55 AM
Duncan is the best inbound passer on the team.....WHY DOESNT HE DO IT???!!!

I've always thought Duncan was better than most at inbounding. (Unless my bias is showing again). Why wasn't he doing it?

z0sa
11-18-2008, 01:57 AM
I've always thought Duncan was better than most at inbounding. (Unless my bias is showing again). Why wasn't he doing it?

His size alone is a big reason i wish he would ...

But then there'd be nobody on the court for Finley to force a pass to.

duncan228
11-18-2008, 02:01 AM
So it's pretty much what O_V said. When Parker and Manu are back, Duncan will inbound. Works for me.

honestfool84
11-18-2008, 02:17 AM
i think the players weren't getting open..

but that's just me.

MI21
11-18-2008, 02:28 AM
Duncan is a fantastic inbounder, I like taking notice of those sort of little things. Duncan is an incredible outlet passer and as always, it's done in the most fundamental fashion, two hands above the head. Robert Horry is probably the best inbound passer the Spurs have had and one of the best post feeders I've ever seen.

It's kind of tough because you would like to have Duncan as the inbounder, but it robs the Spurs of there tallest target should the need arise to lob the ball to beat the clock.

angelbelow
11-18-2008, 02:52 AM
i have another concern, i know pop is a hardass, but i dont necessarily agree with him when he benches hill after every mistake for long stretches. the next time hes out there hes not going to want to make mistakes but more importantly hes not gonna want to make a play to avoid mistakes. this could be a possible reason why no one else on the team wants to shoot the damn ball.

i know its hard to balance winning and play efficiently against wanting to give hill some experience but i think most people agree that hill has a better skill set then vaughn and has a higher chance of contributing more despite the fact that vaughn in a veteran.

at the end of the day im not pop and i dont have personal relationships with any spurs players so i'll trust pop on this one. afterall we won so its a concern but its nothing to go crazy about.

z0sa
11-18-2008, 02:53 AM
i think the players weren't getting open..

but that's just me.

The one Finley forced to Tim, Finley had Bonner with position about 3-4 feet from his (Finley's) man. It's not a great option cause of the proximity of both defenders, but it'd have been a wiser choice than the (short toss) lob to Tim with Camby all over him.

SenorSpur
11-18-2008, 03:01 AM
This isn't Finley's first inbound screwup. But he does tend to turn into Josh Howard when doing so. Pop should change that up

m33p0
11-18-2008, 03:15 AM
i have another concern, i know pop is a hardass, but i dont necessarily agree with him when he benches hill after every mistake for long stretches. the next time hes out there hes not going to want to make mistakes but more importantly hes not gonna want to make a play to avoid mistakes. this could be a possible reason why no one else on the team wants to shoot the damn ball.

i know its hard to balance winning and play efficiently against wanting to give hill some experience but i think most people agree that hill has a better skill set then vaughn and has a higher chance of contributing more despite the fact that vaughn in a veteran.

at the end of the day im not pop and i dont have personal relationships with any spurs players so i'll trust pop on this one. afterall we won so its a concern but its nothing to go crazy about.
pop just wanted georgie to see what NOT to do in crunch time and what better way to do that than inserting mentor vaughn for the final 5 minutes of a close ballgame.

angelbelow
11-18-2008, 03:21 AM
pop just wanted georgie to see what NOT to do in crunch time and what better way to do that than inserting mentor vaughn for the final 5 minutes of a close ballgame.

thats what he did last night, maybe this night is a good night to give it a go.

mrspurs
11-18-2008, 07:27 AM
our inbounding..what the hell is going on here? 5 second violations, turnovers..every inbound coming down to the last second of the 5..it's getting ridiculous..it shouldn't be such a problem for us..

Wouldnt make much of it. It happened some last season. We watch the Spurs alot so we see their mistakes but, they're no different then the other clubs. Call a timeout, set up a play, and then cant get the ball in or, turn it over. Little things that can make the difference in close games. Maybe because we're paying so much attention these days, is why some may just now be seeing it.

bobbybob0
11-18-2008, 08:36 AM
Duncan is a fantastic inbounder, I like taking notice of those sort of little things. Duncan is an incredible outlet passer and as always, it's done in the most fundamental fashion, two hands above the head. Robert Horry is probably the best inbound passer the Spurs have had and one of the best post feeders I've ever seen.

It's kind of tough because you would like to have Duncan as the inbounder, but it robs the Spurs of there tallest target should the need arise to lob the ball to beat the clock.

I second that.

Horry was very good at inbounding because of his size and court-vision.

I'm sure Duncan could be as good as Horry was but that would leave Oberto/KT as the only post options and it would be to easy to defend this setup for end-of-game plays.

With Duncan in the paint on an inbound play the defense is held accountable and cannot sag off on the perimeter to bother the spurs shooters - and because TD is so good at directing the offense from the post it leaves another option for an open 3.

Obstructed_View
11-18-2008, 06:07 PM
So it's pretty much what O_V said. When Parker and Manu are back, Duncan will inbound. Works for me.

But with Manu and Parker in the game, they are so quick and elusive that it almost doesn't matter who's inbounding the ball because one or both of them will find a way to get open.

spurs_fan_in_exile
11-18-2008, 06:09 PM
Finley's gaffs stood out dramatically, but execution down the stretch was shaky on every play. I think the biggest culprit here was the fact that it was the third game in four days for an older team already depleted by injuries. Tired legs, tired brains.

arodz
11-18-2008, 06:11 PM
our inbounding..what the hell is going on here?


Are you new to the Spurs? That's been a problem since DRob retired.

SenorSpur
11-18-2008, 06:21 PM
The best solution is DON'T ALLOW FINLEY TO INBOUND THE BALL ANYMORE - EVER!

Why Pop continue to tempt fate, is beyond me?

tmtcsc
11-18-2008, 11:48 PM
Finley's inbounding problems started earlier in the season when he missed both Mason and Duncan wide open for game winners and instead threw it to Parker who had to shoot an off balanced three.

Yet Pop just keeps letting him inbound . . .

Good point, and right you are. Finley needs to be on the receiving end.