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RandomGuy
11-18-2008, 01:09 PM
http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2008/11/17/tanker-piratesx.jpg
Supertanker MV Sirius Star seized by pirates.

Owner of Saudi tanker working for crew's release

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – Owners of a Saudi oil supertanker hijacked by Somali pirates grappled with how to respond Tuesday, as navies patrolling the region said they would not intervene to stop or free the captured vessel.

With few other options, shipowners in past piracy cases have ended up paying ransoms for their ships, cargos and crew.

NATO said it would not divert any of its three warships from the Gulf of Aden and the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet also said it did not expect to send ships to try to intercept the MV Sirius Star. The tanker was seized over the weekend about 450 nautical miles off the Kenyan coast, the latest in a surge of pirate attacks this year.

Never before have Somali pirates seized such a giant ship so far out to sea. The Sirius Star, with a full load of 2 million barrels of oil and 25 crewmembers, was being brought Tuesday by its captors to one of the main pirate dens on the Somali coast, the port of Eyl.

Somalis on shore were stunned by the gigantic vessel — as long as an aircraft carrier at 1,080 feet — as it passed just off the coast on route to Eyl.

"As usual, I woke up at 3 a.m. and headed for the sea to fish, but I saw a very, very large ship anchored less than three miles off the shore," said Abdinur Haji, a fisherman near Harardhere, a pirate stronghold where the ship apparently anchored overnight, some 265 miles by land from Eyl.

"I have been fishing here for three decades, but I have never seen a ship as big as this one," he he told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. "There are dozens of spectators on shore trying to catch a glimpse of the large ship, which they can see with their naked eyes."

He said two small boats floated out to the ship and 18 men — presumably other pirates — climbed aboard with ropes woven into a ladder.

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal on Tuesday called the hijacking "an outrageous act" and said, "piracy, like terrorism, is a disease which is against everybody, and everybody must address it together." Speaking during a visit to Athens, he did not elaborate on what steps, if any, the kingdom would take to better protect its vital oil tankers.

It is not known if the Sirius Star had a security team on board.

Executives from Dubai-based company that owns and operates the vessel, Vela International Marine Ltd., a subsidiary of Saudi oil company Aramco, were meeting Tuesday and were expected to make a statement later in the day.

An earlier statement from the company said the 25 crew on board the fully loaded tanker were unharmed and that crisis teams had been set up to try to win their release and the return of the vessel.

It made no mention of a ransom or contacts with the bandits, but such companies have little choice but to pay out huge ransoms, usually totaling around $1 million, to ensure the safety of the crew and the vessel's return.

The Sirius Star's cargo is worth about $100 million at current prices, but the pirates have no way to unload it from the tanker.

In Vienna, Ehsan Ul-Haq, chief analyst at JBC Energy, said the seizure was not affecting oil prices, since traders are focused instead on "the overall economy."

The latest in a surge of pirate hijackings highlighted the vulnerability of even very large ships and the inability of naval forces to intervene once bandits are on board.

The U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet said Tuesday it was monitoring the situation but didn't expect to send warships to surround the vessel as it has done with a Ukrainian ship loaded with tanks and other weaponry the was seized off the Somali coast on Sept. 25 and remains in pirate hands.

"I don't anticipate any U.S. ships on station," said Lt. Nathan Christensen, a spokesman for the 5th Fleet, speaking from its headquarters in Bahrain.

He would not elaborate on how the Navy was watching the hijacked tanker.

The U.S. Navy said the hijacking took place Saturday. The statement posted on Vela's Web site said the ship was hijacked Sunday. The discrepancy could not immediately be explained.

Attacks by Somali pirates have surged this year as bandits have become bolder, better armed and capable of operating hundreds of miles from shore.

A coalition of warships from eight nations, as well as from NATO and the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet, is patrolling a critical zone in the Gulf of Aden leading to and from the Suez Canal. That's where most of the more than 80 attacks this year have occurred.

The Saudi tanker, however, was seized far to the south of the patrolled zone, according the U.S. Navy.

"NATO's mandate is not related to interception of hijacked ships outside the patrol area," said alliance spokesman James Appathurai. "I'm not aware that there's any intention by NATO to try and intercept this ship."

Maritime security experts said they have tracked a southward spread in piracy over the last several weeks into a vast area of the Indian Ocean, noting with alarm that the area would be almost impossible to patrol.

"We are very concerned that a (ship) of this size has been hijacked. We have safety concerns, security concerns, environmental concerns," said Noel Choong, the head of the International Maritime Bureau's regional piracy center in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

"Of course, as long as there is no firm deterrent, pirates will continue to attack. The risk is low and returns are extremely high. You will see more and more of such attacks," he told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, British Armed Forces Minister Bob Ainsworth said the British navy had handed over eight suspected Somali pirates to Kenyan authorities Tuesday morning. Sailors onboard the HMS Cumberland arrested the suspects, who will be tried in Kenya on Nov. 11, after they had attacked a Danish merchant vessel using a captured Yemeni ship.

Ainsworth, speaking in Nairobi, Kenya, said it showed that the presence of warships could help deter attacks.

"But we're under no illusion about the scale of the challenge presented by piracy," he said. Referring to the Sirius Star capture, he said, "taking such a large vessels so far out to sea represents a steep change in the capabilities of the pirates."

The Sirius Star's crew includes citizens of Croatia, Britain, the Philippines, Poland and Saudi Arabia. A British Foreign Office spokesman said there were at least two British nationals on board.

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This represents an escalation of piracy in this area, as the supertanker was far outside the normal space of pirate operations off the Somali coast.

angel_luv
11-18-2008, 03:12 PM
I would like to meet a reformed pirate. I bet he would have some awesome stories to tell.

angel_luv
11-18-2008, 03:16 PM
And now this song is stuck in my head...




Long John: When I was just a lad looking for my true vocation
My father said "Now son, this choice deserves deliberation
Though you could be a doctor or perhaps a financier
My boy why not consider a more challenging career"

Pirates: Hey ho ho
You'll cruise to foreign shores
And you'll keep your mind and body sound
By working out of doors

Long John: True friendship and adventure are what we can't live without
All: And when you're a professional pirate
Bad Polly: That's what the job's about
Long John: "Upstage, lads, this is my ONLY number!"
Now take Sir Francis Drake, the Spanish all despise him
But to the British he's a hero and they idolize him
It's how you look at buccaneers that makes them bad or good
And I see us as members of a noble brotherhood
Pirates: Hey ho ho
We're honorable men
And before we lose our tempers we will always count to ten
Long John: On occasion there may be someone you have to execute
All: But when your a professional pirate
Morgan: You don't have to wear a suit..... what?
Mad Monty: I could have been a surgeon
I like taking things apart
Bad Polly: I could have been a lawyer
But I just had too much heart
Morgan: I could have been in politics
Cause I've always been a big spender
Pirate: And me...I could have been a contender
Long John: Some say that pirates steal and should be feared and hated
I say we're victims of bad press it's all exaggerated
We'd never stab you in the back, we'd never lie or cheat
We're just about the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet

Long John's speech...

All: Hey ho ho
It's one for all for one
And we'll share and share alike with you and love you like a son
We're gentlemen of fotune and that's what we're proud to be
And when your a professional pirate
Long John: You'll be honest brave and free
The soul of decency
You'll be loyal and fair and on the square
And most importantly
All: When you're a professional pirate
You're always in the best of company

spurs_fan_in_exile
11-18-2008, 03:22 PM
It's like Road Warrior, but on water. Costner to the rescue!

RandomGuy
11-18-2008, 04:13 PM
It's like Road Warrior, but on water. Costner to the rescue!

Oh.
no.
you.
didn't.

:lol

Ar.

RandomGuy
11-18-2008, 04:15 PM
Isn't there a rule in the ST bylaws or something that bad references to the movie "waterworld" is a bannable offense?

I am almost positive I read that somewhere. Kori?

MaryAnnKilledGinger
11-18-2008, 04:20 PM
They've stolen oil from Saudi Arabia? I predict that soon what's left of these guys won't be enough to identify from anything other than DNA smears.

RandomGuy
11-18-2008, 04:45 PM
They've stolen oil from Saudi Arabia? I predict that soon what's left of these guys won't be enough to identify from anything other than DNA smears.

Note to self:

Do not piss off people with hundreds of billions of dollars sitting around looking for something to do...

These idiots might as well have stolen a shipment of coke from Kaiser Sose.

boutons_
11-18-2008, 06:14 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7735144.stm

Talk about asymmetrical warfare. The good guys have $Bs of hardware, but the pirates are still winning, with no defeat in sight.

Anti.Hero
11-18-2008, 08:19 PM
This is pretty awesome. It's like a pirate revolution.

They finally got pissed enough from being lumped into the same category as illegal downloaders :lol



Roger Middleton, a Horn of Africa specialist at the Chatham House think-tank, said that the capture was a crucial escalation. “Now that they have shown they are able to seize an enormous ship like this, it is beyond a military solution. You won’t fix this without a political solution.”

LOL.

Anti.Hero
11-18-2008, 08:25 PM
Governments have gotten so weak in this new politically correct weaksauce world that they let homeless native pirates boss them around.

What a joke.

fatsack
11-19-2008, 09:04 AM
They should send some Arab Ninjas on the boat.
Arab Ninjas > Somali pirates.

RandomGuy
11-19-2008, 09:50 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7735144.stm

Talk about asymmetrical warfare. The good guys have $Bs of hardware, but the pirates are still winning, with no defeat in sight.

That is because the world's navies have not really taken this seriously until now.

After years of being a problem, there are just now a total of 3 or 4 ships (if I remember correctly) to monitor an area of hundreds of thousands of square miles.

I would imagine with the high-profile seizing of a cargo ship with Russian arms and Saudi oil supertanker, you will see a *bit* more attention paid to the problem.

Given that it is also causing cargo companies to go around the horn of africa rather than through the Suez canal, I would imagine you will have the Indian, Chinese, Russian, Egyptian, US, Saudi, and several European nations' navies sending a few ships over there.

Good thing for the US is that we just happen to have some guys who have literally been fighting pirates for hundreds of years sitting around...

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/graphics/marineseal.jpg

RandomGuy
11-19-2008, 09:56 AM
Governments have gotten so weak in this new politically correct weaksauce world that they let homeless native pirates boss them around.

What a joke.

:nope

This is simply a case of inertia. Most crews of cargo ships these days tend to be from relatively poor countries, so the problem of small cargo ships crewed by indonesians has simply not been on anybody's radar until relatively recently.

This is a problem that has been escalating for some time, and will likely continue to do so. This is less a case of weak governments so much as unaware and uninvolved governments.

Thanks for playing though, and here is your copy of "Let's look at everything though a lame-ass ideological prism and come to uselessly false conclusions" home-game.

boutons_
11-19-2008, 01:12 PM
India 'sinks Somali pirate ship'


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7736885.stm

spurs_fan_in_exile
11-19-2008, 01:26 PM
India 'sinks Somali pirate ship'


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7736885.stm

D-4

Hit!

RandomGuy
11-19-2008, 01:27 PM
India 'sinks Somali pirate ship'


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7736885.stm

I saw that bit. They actually got one of the big "mother ships" that act as floating bases for the speed boats.

GO INDIA!! WHOOT!!

http://www.ofts.com/bill/graphics/flag_india.gif

anakha
11-20-2008, 01:10 AM
D-4

Hit!

Beat to the punch.

Damn time zone difference. :lol

T Park
11-20-2008, 01:42 AM
I can just hear Apu saying from Springfield

"Take that you pirate bastards!"

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Some very funny shtick in this thread! :tu :lol

BTW, anyone read Snow Crash by the greatest geek author of our time, Neal Stephenson? He nailed it!