View Full Version : Bobcats about to make a trade
Allanon
11-20-2008, 05:03 PM
Bobcats just waived Andre Brown and Linton Johnson III.
There were some rumors about the Spurs and Bobcats. With this move, the Cats look to be making a move on one of their star players as they're taking back more players than they're sending out.
JV+Bonner+Fabricio for Gerald Wallace and scrubs?
Heheh, probably not, but it certainly does look like the Bobcats are about to pull the trigger today.
Trainwreck2100
11-20-2008, 05:05 PM
doubtful with his contract, maybe he'll go to the Lakers for Luke Walton, that asian guy and a fruit pie?
xtremesteven33
11-20-2008, 05:05 PM
IF that were to happen....i dont know what id do....
Spur-Addict
11-20-2008, 05:08 PM
Eh, seeing is believing....
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 05:12 PM
Word is they are already filling one of the open roster spots with another minimum-salary free agent.
They had been talking to the Nets, but they are said to be looking for a post scorer.
BacktoBasics
11-20-2008, 05:28 PM
Nets? Carter? Doubtful?
I know they'd like Boone but that wouldn't require a lot of moving of players.
I Love Me Some Me
11-20-2008, 05:30 PM
Any deal the Spurs make with their group of scrubs would have to include Splitter's rights.
Big P
11-20-2008, 05:34 PM
There were some rumors about the Spurs and Bobcats.
Link?
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm
The Nets continue to be in trade discussions with Charlotte, which is desperate for frontcourt help, but they don't have the expendable post player Larry Brown wants. The Bobcats are willing to part with Gerald Wallace for a player of consequence, but are more actively pushing Matt Carroll or Adam Morrison, mindful that the Nets are shooter-crazy these days. Newark Star-Ledger
Sounds like the Bobcats have a taker, and that in the deal they're getting back more players than they're sending out. According to a couple of well-informed sources the Bobcats have been aggressively working the phone lines as they watch their attendance drop in direct proportion to their winning percentage. It sounds like we could see a huge move made by the Bobcats in the next few hours. HoopsWorld / November 19
The Charlotte Bobcats plan to sign former Cleveland Cavaliers center Dwayne Jones to fill one of the roster spots they opened Wednesday, the Observer has learned. Jones could be in practice as soon as Thursday, after the Bobcats cut forward Andre Brown and Linton Johnson Wednesday. Neither had a guaranteed contract and neither was active for the Bobcats’ last four games. While those moves would leave the Bobcats one short of the maximum 15 players under contract, general manager Rod Higgins and coach Larry Brown said nothing was imminent on the trade front. “We weren’t playing these guys,’’ Larry Brown said of the forwards waived Wednesday. “Sure, we’re looking to see if there’s anything we can do, but I don’t know that (anything else will happen). I feel bad (about the cuts) because these are good guys, but we moved on.’’ Charlotte Observer
nothing to do with the spurs unless they are going to give up mahinmi + bonner/thomas/oberto. i doubt it though. spurs frontcourt is bad enough as it is, giving up bigs to bring in a small forward will be a step backwards.
Bender
11-20-2008, 05:41 PM
I read yesterday somewhere that the bobcats were going for mcdyess
xtremesteven33
11-20-2008, 05:47 PM
Brown and Pop are like best friends so.....nah its not gonna happen....
Gerald Wallace would destroy the 2010 option.
crc21209
11-20-2008, 05:53 PM
Shit at this point Im all for Gerald Wallace. Its not like any of our damn bigs can rebound right now besides Tim, might as well pick up someone who can rebound, play d, block shots, AND score.
Shit at this point Im all for Gerald Wallace. Its not like any of our damn bigs can rebound right now besides Tim, might as well pick up someone who can rebound, play d, block shots, AND score.
He's a good fit, but it's a salary cap nightmare. It's also an overreaction. Once healthy, the Spurs will be fine.
timvp
11-20-2008, 05:56 PM
This is just Larry Brown being Larry Brown. He gets tired of players even faster than he gets tired of teams. Brown isn't comfortable unless he's making moves. Waiving two scrubs to sign two other scrubs is likely what's going on here.
:lol @ trash for Gerald Wallace.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 05:58 PM
Especially since we know they want a low post scorer and already tried to make a play for Kaman.
xtremesteven33
11-20-2008, 06:02 PM
This is just Larry Brown being Larry Brown. He gets tired of players even faster than he gets tired of teams. Brown isn't comfortable unless he's making moves. Waiving two scrubs to sign two other scrubs is likely what's going on here.
:lol @ trash for Gerald Wallace.
Wasnt it rumored that Wallace has been on the trading block since the beginning of the season.
by the way, in no way am i implying the spurs have a shot at this guy....sad to say.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 06:07 PM
He's a good fit, but it's a salary cap nightmare. It's also an overreaction. Once healthy, the Spurs will be fine.
That is pretty much it.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:10 PM
That is pretty much it.
I do not get why people say it is a salary cap nightmare. Who do you think we will be able to realistically get in 2010? If the Spurs got a Wallace type player I would be thrilled since he fill one of our biggest needs, he is only 26 and he makes a reasonable amount of money for a player with his abilities at 9.5 mil. He will only be 30 when his contract is up.
Especially because it helps us win now.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:13 PM
Plus his contract expires when Tim is off the books as well and that frees up a lot of money to sign a max player when Tim is gone.
A line-up of Tony, Manu, Gerald, Tim and Ian seems pretty good for the next 4 years.
Not saying it is realistic, but I just do not agree that the cap situation rules it out.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 06:13 PM
Plus his contract expires when Tim is off the books as well and that frees up a lot of money to sign a max player when Tim is gone.
A line-up of Tony, Manu, Gerald, Tim and Ian seems pretty good for the next 4 years.
Not saying it is realistic, but I just do not agree that the cap situation rules it out.
Point taken.
xtremesteven33
11-20-2008, 06:16 PM
As much as i would love Wallace on the Spurs im not willing to give up certain players to get him.
Mahinmi
Oberto
or
Hill
I know some people are yelling why not Oberto, but this guy is such a smart player and makes key plays to win crucial games. Hes like a perfect compliment to Duncan/Manu in many situations that i think very few players could fill.
ALL HYPOTHETICAL THOUGH...
crc21209
11-20-2008, 06:16 PM
I agree. He's that long athletic 3 we could use right about now. A guy who can create his own shot, hit the outside shot, block shots, play overall d. Its not like Bosh or Lebron or anyone is coming here.
Our lineup would be
PG: Parker, Hill
SG: Manu, Mason
SF: Wallace, Bowen, Udoka
PF: Duncan, Thomas, Tolliver
C: Oberto, Mahinmi
Now saying we get rid of Bonner and Vaughn, maybe Udoka or Oberto?
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 06:18 PM
:lol
Who are you guys willing to give up for Wallace?
Ahearn?
tp2021
11-20-2008, 06:18 PM
If post scoring is what they're after, I can't see them wanting any of our bigs except Ian and Timmy. I say no to that.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 06:19 PM
:lol
Who are you guys willing to give up for Wallace?
Ahearn?
+Bonner+Vaughn!
Do it, RC!
FIX IT!
I do not get why people say it is a salary cap nightmare. Who do you think we will be able to realistically get in 2010? If the Spurs got a Wallace type player I would be thrilled since he fill one of our biggest needs, he is only 26 and he makes a reasonable amount of money for a player with his abilities at 9.5 mil. He will only be 30 when his contract is up.
Especially because it helps us win now.
Chris Bosh. Joe Johnson.
9.5 million isn't cheap, and he's injury prone. Limited offensively.
Don't get me wrong, if you can get him for scraps, a la Pau Gasol, then you do it. But still.
FWIW: I think this has about 1/1,000,000 chance of happening.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 06:22 PM
I think the more realistic question is whether the Spurs waive Ahearn and pick up Brown or Johnson.
Did Ahearn just play his 3rd game, or only his second?
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:23 PM
Chris Bosh. Joe Johnson.
9.5 million isn't cheap, and he's injury prone. Limited offensively.
Don't get me wrong, if you can get him for scraps, a la Pau Gasol, then you do it. But still.
9.5 mil is very good for a solid, young, and athletic 3. Considering that Dampier makes 13 mil, that seems reasonable.
I highly doubt the Spurs can get Bosh or Joe. Unless it is bye bye Manu. Wallace trade allows us to keep Manu.
But I agree, this has almost 0 chance of happening. i was just disagreeing with the logic why.
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 06:24 PM
I think the more realistic question is whether the Spurs waive Ahearn and pick up Brown or Johnson.ftw
9.5 mil is very good for a solid, young, and athletic 3. Considering that Dampier makes 13 mil, that seems reasonable.
I highly doubt the Spurs can get Bosh or Joe. Unless it is bye bye Manu. Wallace trade allows us to keep Manu.
What?!? As things stand now, the Spurs are in a cap position to resign Manu and land a top shelf free agent in 2010. That's the whole point.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:26 PM
What?!? As things stand now, the Spurs are in a cap position to resign Manu and land a top shelf free agent in 2010. That's the whole point.
No they are not. If Manu gets an extension that is equal to or greater than what he makes now, then that cap space for a major player (bosh...) is gone.
No they are not. If Manu gets an extension that is equal to or greater than what he makes now, then that cap space for a major player (bosh...) is gone.
shamsports.com
Do the math.
And Manu is not going to get paid more 2 years from now.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 06:28 PM
And Manu is not going to get paid more 2 years from now.
I don't know...if we don't, surely someone else would...
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:29 PM
If Manu just gets an extension for what he makes now (10 M) that would put the Spurs at 44M for only 5 players. So you are saying the Spurs will have two guys on their team at that point that make 20M plus (Bosh or Joe) and Duncan? Along with Tony who makes 13.6 M and Manu at 10M? That would put right at the salary cap line (as of this year) with only 6 players.
Do the math
angelbelow
11-20-2008, 06:29 PM
sounds like hes going to the nets. although i dont see why the nets would wnat to jeopardize their 2010 plan.
and for those saying his contract sucks.. it doesnt. even if it is long. its not like were going to wheel in lebron or wade or bosh. i dont know who were targetting 2010 anyway (other than resigning our own players.)
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:29 PM
And Manu is not going to get paid more 2 years from now.
How on earth can you say that? He does not deserve a raise? The 10M he makes now is a steal.
I don't know...if we don't, surely someone else would...
I think Manu might get an 8, 9 million dollar contract that summer, but not more. He'll be too old. Frankly, I think he'd take less to stay in San Antonio so long as they are contending. He likes to win.
How on earth can you say that? He does not deserve a raise? The 10M he makes now is a steal.
Age.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:31 PM
I think Manu might get an 8, 9 million dollar contract that summer, but not more. He'll be too old. Frankly, I think he'd take less to stay in San Antonio so long as they are contending. He likes to win.
So essentially he would be getting the same contract as before. Then that definitely rules out a major player like Bosh or Joe who will be getting Max money.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:32 PM
I think Manu might get an 8, 9 million dollar contract that summer, but not more. He'll be too old. Frankly, I think he'd take less to stay in San Antonio so long as they are contending. He likes to win.
Age.
Same contract as now essentially.
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 06:35 PM
How on earth can you say that? He does not deserve a raise? The 10M he makes now is a steal.Yeah, he's really kicking ass right now. There's no telling what his value is going to be in a couple of summers.
It's pretty obvious Manu is the potentially expendable star for the 2010 plan. It just depends whether anyone more desirable signs up for the cap space his free agency will provide.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 06:37 PM
Yeah, he's really kicking ass right now. There's no telling what his value is going to be in a couple of summers.
It's pretty obvious Manu is the potentially expendable star for the 2010 plan. It just depends whether anyone more desirable signs up for the cap space his free agency will provide.
That is not the point. The point is either that you re-sign Manu or you let him go and sign someone else. There is no other option, unless the Spurs can talk him into excepting 5 Million or something like that.
You honestly think that Manu will not command money on the FA market. Spurs are not going to resign Manu and then Bosh or Joe Johnson or Wade or Lebron or Dirk or .............................................
If Manu just gets an extension for what he makes now (10 M) that would put the Spurs at 44M for only 5 players. So you are saying the Spurs will have two guys on their team at that point that make 20M plus (Bosh or Joe) and Duncan? Along with Tony who makes 13.6 M and Manu at 10M? That would put right at the salary cap line (as of this year) with only 6 players.
Do the math
I'm not saying the Spurs can land two big fish, I'm saying that theoretically they can land one. I threw out the names Bosh and Johnson as examples only. I wasn't suggesting they two players of that quality.
The other thing is that might be able sign a guy for less than the max in exchange for the opportunity to play with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. If Hill and Mahinmi are as good as they could be by then, it will be an attractive pitch.
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 06:41 PM
That is not the point. The point is either that you re-sign Manu or you let him go and sign someone else. There is no other option, unless the Spurs can talk him into excepting 5 Million or something like that.Well, I can't argue with that because that's what I said. I guess something with Manu and another player could have been worked out with a significantly raised salary cap, but that really can't be counted upon anymore.
You honestly think that Manu will not command money on the FA market.A lot of it will depend on how many NBA games he misses the next two seasons.
I should also say that if Ginobili wants more than 8 or 9 million at 33 the Spurs should probably let him walk. He doesn't play enough minutes per game to command much more during his years of decline.
angelbelow
11-20-2008, 06:48 PM
the manu thats been with us since 03 deserves to make more, the manu from here on out is a different story. manu is my favorite player but i dont see him getting a 10+ mil extension from the spurs, thats just the business part.
duncan228
11-20-2008, 06:49 PM
Ian Thomsen's piece from SI.com today.
Bracing for the 2010 sweepstakes
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110187
Findog
11-20-2008, 06:56 PM
As much as i would love Wallace on the Spurs im not willing to give up certain players to get him.
Mahinmi
Oberto
or
Hill
.
Can somebody explain to me the fascination with Mahinmi? I know he probably makes nothing and Wallace is owed something like $40 million over the next 4 years, but even then, I'd rather pay Wallace that much money than have Mahinmi for cheap. He's a project, Wallace is almost an All-Star caliber player.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 07:00 PM
ftw
So CD what are your thoughts?
xtremesteven33
11-20-2008, 07:02 PM
Can somebody explain to me the fascination with Mahinmi? I know he probably makes nothing and Wallace is owed something like $40 million over the next 4 years, but even then, I'd rather pay Wallace that much money than have Mahinmi for cheap. He's a project, Wallace is almost an All-Star caliber player.
The Spurs see alot of promise in this young guy from what i hear. He posses alot of raw talent and defensive abilities to assist Duncan in these areas.
Spurs have shown that they dont need "allstar" caliber players to play along side the Big 3 to win championships. They just need good solid players to do thier role and excel in it.
Mahinmi seems like a player we need right now and would hate to let go just to see him flourish somewhere else..
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 07:05 PM
So CD what are your thoughts?As far as the Spurs are concerned, they probably consider themselves short three rotation players right now so I think they want to see what they actually have as a team before entering any serious trade talks. The only thing I think will happen in the next couple of months will be a new face or two in spot #15.
tp2021
11-20-2008, 07:06 PM
Any chance of picking up one of the waived players and dropping Ahearn?
Findog
11-20-2008, 07:06 PM
The Spurs see alot of promise in this young guy from what i hear. He posses alot of raw talent and defensive abilities to assist Duncan in these areas.
Spurs have shown that they dont need "allstar" caliber players to play along side the Big 3 to win championships. They just need good solid players to do thier role and excel in it.
Mahinmi seems like a player we need right now and would hate to let go just to see him flourish somewhere else..
Duncan is what, 32? I would say the Spurs title window only runs about another 2 years after this one. Wallace is a guy who I think could contribute to your team way more than Mahinmi could. I've been reading about him on this forum for what seems like almost 2 years now, so I understand that the Spurs have made a long-term investment in him, time-wise at least. But if I were Buford, I wouldn't hesitate to move him in order to acquire G-Force.
timvp
11-20-2008, 07:07 PM
I'd trade Oberto, Mahinmi and whatever salary filler for Wallace in a second. Then I'd make Wallace play with a helmet so he doesn't have his 73rd concussion.
Findog
11-20-2008, 07:08 PM
I'd trade Oberto, Mahinmi and whatever salary filler for Wallace in a second. Then I'd make Wallace play with a helmet so he doesn't have his 73rd concussion.
If you were Donnie, would you trade Josh Howard for Wallace? Josh has got to be the softest and most inconsequential player ever to average 20 and 8.
DPG21920
11-20-2008, 07:12 PM
I'd trade Oberto, Mahinmi and whatever salary filler for Wallace in a second. Then I'd make Wallace play with a helmet so he doesn't have his 73rd concussion.
lolz
Any chance of picking up one of the waived players and dropping Ahearn?
Ahearn is probably done by tomorrow anyway.
Duncan is what, 32? I would say the Spurs title window only runs about another 2 years after this one. Wallace is a guy who I think could contribute to your team way more than Mahinmi could. I've been reading about him on this forum for what seems like almost 2 years now, so I understand that the Spurs have made a long-term investment in him, time-wise at least. But if I were Buford, I wouldn't hesitate to move him in order to acquire G-Force.
I firmly believe the Spurs can remain competitive through 2012, provided thye make the right move in 2010. Duncan's production remains consistent, and will make a great complimentary player in his mid-30s.
timvp
11-20-2008, 07:14 PM
If you were Donnie, would you trade Josh Howard for Wallace? Josh has got to be the softest and most inconsequential player ever to average 20 and 8.Hmmmm ... that'd be a tough decision.
Howard has lost his way a bit but not long ago he was an All-Star player. Wallace is damn good but he's also damn dumb and he's a walking injury concern.
I'd probably keep Howard and hope that he matures and regains his All-Star form. When he's on, he's almost the perfect complement to Dirk. Wallace is more of a crash test dummy who is suited to be a fourth option ... not a second option like Howard.
Southwest Texas Fan
11-20-2008, 08:49 PM
I firmly believe the Spurs can remain competitive through 2012, provided thye make the right move in 2010. Duncan's production remains consistent, and will make a great complimentary player in his mid-30s.
+1 and let's not forget if Mahinmi and Hill turn out to be studs this team would be competitive for a good while. I see Duncan having 3-4 more dominant years and would be the ideal player to have on your team in his later years.
Obstructed_View
11-20-2008, 08:51 PM
Duncan is what, 32? I would say the Spurs title window only runs about another 2 years after this one.
I hear this a lot, but applying the regular NBA formula to Duncan doesn't make sense. What part of his game relies on footspeed or jumping ability? In other words, what is he going to lose in the next two years that's going to render him unable to put up 18-22 ppg and 9-11 rpg? The Spurs' title window depends on his teammates a hell of a lot more than it does on him. Seriously, Bruce Bowen's game relies a whole lot more on athleticism than Duncan's does, and he's five years older.
Obstructed_View
11-20-2008, 08:52 PM
Back on topic, the Spurs' poor record might actually help them if they wanted to pick up one of the available guys off waivers.
MrChug
11-20-2008, 09:36 PM
Gerald Wallace A Spur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yyyyyyyyyyyyeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
No? Shit.
mrspurs
11-20-2008, 10:18 PM
I do not get why people say it is a salary cap nightmare. Who do you think we will be able to realistically get in 2010? If the Spurs got a Wallace type player I would be thrilled since he fill one of our biggest needs, he is only 26 and he makes a reasonable amount of money for a player with his abilities at 9.5 mil. He will only be 30 when his contract is up.
Especially because it helps us win now.
yup
itzsoweezee
11-20-2008, 10:43 PM
spurs need a big man
DROB4EVER
11-20-2008, 11:28 PM
No way that gets done! I cant see Pops and RC cutting into the 2010 plan for wallace. He is a very good player and can give us a super defender, rebounder and a fourth scorer but at 11 mil per year it would put us out of the running in 2010.
If they took scrubs for him I still would do it cause I say win now, not when Duncan is 34-35.
SenorSpur
11-20-2008, 11:42 PM
No way that gets done! I cant see Pops and RC cutting into the 2010 plan for wallace. He is a very good player and can give us a super defender, rebounder and a fourth scorer but at 11 mil per year it would put us out of the running in 2010.
If they took scrubs for him I still would do it cause I say win now, not when Duncan is 34-35.
I hear you. Fuck a 2010 plan. This team needs help now. Besides, I read somewhere there may be as many as 17 teams with cap space, locked and loaded, all vying the attentions of the prime players expected to be available during that infamous free agent summer. The Spurs can't seem to get FAs to come to their team during bear market periods. Why on earth would they expect being able to land one of those top-tier players in a crowded market?
Two years from doesn't get Duncan more help or solve the immediate short-term issues with this team. If I'm them, I'd worry about improving this team now and trying to wrestle the championship trophy out of Boston.
Make Charlotte an offer and see if they bite. Besides, Larry Brown owes us a solid for the ill-fated Jackie Butler referral.
ChumpDumper
11-20-2008, 11:45 PM
I think Charlotte is looking to get better through trades.
Tully365
11-20-2008, 11:46 PM
I think the more realistic question is whether the Spurs waive Ahearn and pick up Brown or Johnson.
Andre Brown is a very good rebounder-- currently averaging 13.9 per 48 minutes, which puts him even with Okafor and Diop. The bonus is that he can be had for a minimum contract. He'll be able to give a reasonable 8-10 mpg, which is more than the Spurs are expecting from Ahearn. He'll also add a little bit of bulk to the front line. Nothing against Ahearn, but with Manu and Tony reportedly progressing ahead of schedule, he seems expendable. And the Spurs have been especially weak in rebounding so far this year.
I think Charlotte is looking to get better through trades.
Ha. :lol
Andre Brown is a very good rebounder-- currently averaging 13.9 per 48 minutes, which puts him even with Okafor and Diop. The bonus is that he can be had for a minimum contract. He'll be able to give a reasonable 8-10 mpg, which is more than the Spurs are expecting from Ahearn. He'll also add a little bit of bulk to the front line. Nothing against Ahearn, but with Manu and Tony reportedly progressing ahead of schedule, he seems expendable. And the Spurs have been especially weak in rebounding so far this year.
See: Butler, Jackie. At least when extrapolating stats on that sort of sample.
If the Spurs take on more cap (2010 and beyond) in a trade, I'd rather they aim smaller. Hedge their bets so to speak. Players in the 5 million or less range still leaves them the option of letting Manu walk and throwing a max at someone. Or, they can simply resign Manu and bring a 2nd or 3rd tier guy with the left over space.
Tully365
11-21-2008, 12:05 AM
See: Butler, Jackie. At least when extrapolating stats on that sort of sample.
Brown's rep is the exact opposite of Butler's-- he plays hard all the time, but isn't necessarily the most naturally talented guy around.
Brown's rep is the exact opposite of Butler's-- he's plays hard all the time, but isn't necessarily the most naturally talented guy around.
Nothing against Brown, and I really don't know much about him, I'm just talking about projecting on such a small sample. I'd be fine with Brown getting a 10 day.
ChumpDumper
11-21-2008, 12:19 AM
As soon as Dice goes somewhere else, I'm not against auditioning Brown or even seeing if LJ3 has anything left. There are only two guys over 6'9" worth looking at in the D-League so far this season; if a big man is what the Spurs are looking for, Brown is probably as good as they are.
freemeat
11-21-2008, 12:40 AM
Any trade for Wallace would have to include Bowen's 4 mil.
It's not going to happen, but it would probably be Bowen, Hill and Oberto.
Bowen's a fan favorite, but I wouldn't be surprised if the FO realizes his level of productivity is close to the top of a steep decline...and it's best to "sell high" if at all.
That being said, the Spurs aren't getting Gerald Wallace any time soon (at least not through trade).
BG_Spurs_Fan
11-21-2008, 03:36 AM
I like Wallace but really cannot see how he'd be a good fit - he's not particularly known for his BB IQ and he can't spread the floor, so I see him fitting only as an option for a small ball 4, which I believe he would be great at but certainly not be worth the contract he's got.
Another thing is that we simply cannot offer anything of value to the Cats, whereas other teams would probably have much better offers on the table. Best we could do is something like Oberto + Udoka + Hill , but this combination doesn't work in matching salaries and I can't see the Spurs trading Bowen.
If we could get him for a very cut price I say go for it, we'd probably be able to trade him if we decide to get rid and go for some of the FAs in the summer of 2010. On the other hand I'm not exactly sure how we'd be able to get a max type of player in 2010 and keep Timmy, Tony and Manu.
roycrikside
11-21-2008, 04:36 AM
From my neck of the woods I heard the guy most likely to be dealt for Wallace is Al Harrington of the Dubs.
angelbelow
11-21-2008, 04:42 AM
From my neck of the woods I heard the guy most likely to be dealt for Wallace is Al Harrington of the Dubs.
thats not too horrible for bobcats, harrington is capable of playing the 4 and supposedly worked on his post game.
but if the trade goes down, IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR THE WARRIORS.
Slydragon
11-21-2008, 05:49 AM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/tweeeeee/animated%20gifs/111108-mavericks-sasha-divx.gif
:lol he falls on his ass, I look it up on youtube but they all cut off when he is about to hit the floor.
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