Man accused of plotting to kill Bush

[Nbadan]

Associated Press
Feb. 22, 2005 08:55 AM


ALEXANDRIA, Va. - A former Virginia high school valedictorian who had been detained in Saudi Arabia as a suspected terrorist was charged Tuesday with conspiring to assassinate President Bush and with supporting the al-Qaida terrorist network.

Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, 23, a U.S. citizen, made an initial appearance Tuesday in U.S. District Court but did not enter a plea. He claimed that he was tortured while detained in Saudi Arabia since June of 2003 and offered through his lawyer to show the judge his scars.

The federal indictment said that in 2002 and 2003 Abu Ali and an unidentified co-conspirator discussed plans for Abu Ali to assassinate Bush. They discussed two scenarios, the indictment said, one in which Abu Ali "would get close enough to the president to shoot him on the street" and, alternatively, "an operation in which Abu Ali would detonate a car bomb."

Abu Ali was picked up in Saudi Arabia while studying at a university there. His family contends that U.S. officials were behind the detention and wanted him held in Saudi Arabia so he could be tortured for information.
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AZ Central (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0222BushPlot22-O... )

Watch Abu Ali get picked-up and tortured in Saudi Arabia.

Watch Abu Ali make a big fuss about being tortured.

Watch the U.S. charge Abu Ali with trying to assassinate W.

Watch Abu Ali drop his accussations of torture

Watch the U.S. drop their charges against Abu Ali....

[Clandestino]

they should've killed him in saudi!

[Useruser666]

Associated Press
Feb. 22, 2005 08:55 AM



AZ Central (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0222BushPlot22-O... )

Watch Abu Ali get picked-up and tortured in Saudi Arabia.

Watch Abu Ali make a big fuss about being tortured.

Watch the U.S. charge Abu Ali with trying to assassinate W.

Watch Abu Ali drop his accussations of torture

Watch the U.S. drop their charges against Abu Ali....

Say that five times fast! :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If it saves one life, who gives a shit if trash like that gets tortured?

[2centsworth]

Associated Press
Feb. 22, 2005 08:55 AM



AZ Central (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0222BushPlot22-O... )

Watch Abu Ali get picked-up and tortured in Saudi Arabia.

Watch Abu Ali make a big fuss about being tortured.

Watch the U.S. charge Abu Ali with trying to assassinate W.

Watch Abu Ali drop his accussations of torture

Watch the U.S. drop their charges against Abu Ali....

Perfect example of how some on the left side with the enemy.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hell I think Dan could be Abu Ali.

[exstatic]

If it saves one life, who gives a shit if trash like that gets tortured?
They had him for 20 months. If he was plotting what they are saying, he would have told them. They're letting him go, which means he didn't. So essentially, they had an American citizen for 20 months, they tortured him, and he couldn't tell them anything. Nice. This so called plot is simply an after the fact rationalization for the torture, kinda like that Free the Iraqis from a Dictator shit in Iraq when there turned out to be no WMDs.

[2centsworth]

Perfect example of how some on the left side with the enemy.



They had him for 20 months. If he was plotting what they are saying, he would have told them. They're letting him go, which means he didn't. So essentially, they had an American citizen for 20 months, they tortured him, and he couldn't tell them anything. Nice. This so called plot is simply an after the fact rationalization for the torture, kinda like that Free the Iraqis from a Dictator shit in Iraq when there turned out to be no WMDs.

Case in Point ^

[exstatic]

^ Hopeless case, and the perfect, lobotomized Bush supporter..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well you're dealing with people who willingly strap dynamite to themselves and blow other people up, fly planes into buildings, etc.

Some will break, some won't.

[2centsworth]

^ Hopeless case, and the perfect, lobotomized Bush supporter..


Nah, I just don't defend someone accused of trying to assassinate our president by persecuting our government. If the guy is innocent then there should be more proof than just trying to shit on the government.

[2centsworth]

Here's the indictment if it means anything to you.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/AliIndictment.pdf

[exstatic]

Some will break, some won't.

20 months in a Saudi torture chamber? You'll break. I don't care who you are. If they let him go, he didn't do anything.

[exstatic]

If the guy is innocent then there should be more proof than just trying to shit on the government.

You have a basic lack of knowledge of our criminal justice system. One does not need to prove one's innnocence. Take a civics class, for God's sake.

[2centsworth]

You have a basic lack of knowledge of our criminal justice system. One does not need to prove one's innnocence. Take a civics class, for God's sake.

You're almost logical. However, you're the one to first introduce evidence of his innocence. I was just responding. Keep trying, you're getting better.



Btw, this forum isn't a court of law.

[exstatic]

So, all you're worried about is this forum? I'm worried about real issues in the real world. This forum is only a place to discuss them.

[IcemanCometh]

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[Clandestino]

You have a basic lack of knowledge of our criminal justice system. One does not need to prove one's innnocence. Take a civics class, for God's sake.

wasn't it the saudi government who arrested him and held him prisoner? our criminal justice system had nothing to do with this...

also, have you read the indictment? sounds like a terrorist to me...

[2centsworth]

wasn't it the saudi government who arrested him and held him prisoner? our criminal justice system had nothing to do with this...

also, have you read the indictment? sounds like a terrorist to me...


he's not worried about discussing that on this forum, he's interested in the real world. Huh?