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The Reckoning
11-25-2008, 09:30 PM
By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER, Associated Press Writer Christopher Toothaker, Associated Press Writer –

LA GUAIRA, Venezuela – Russian warships sailed into port in Venezuela on Tuesday in a show of strength as Moscow seeks to counter U.S. influence in Latin America. Russia's first such deployment in the Caribbean since the Cold War is timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Venezuela, the first ever by a Russian president.

Russian sailors dressed in black-and-white uniforms lined up along the bow of the destroyer Admiral Chabanenko as it docked in La Guaira, near Caracas, and Venezuelan troops greeted them with cannons in a 21-gun salute. Two support vessels also docked, and the nuclear-powered cruiser Peter the Great, Russia's largest navy ship, anchored offshore.

Chavez, basking in the support of a powerful ally and traditional U.S. rival, wants Russian help to build a nuclear reactor, invest in oil and natural gas projects and bolster his leftist opposition to U.S. influence in the region.
He also wants weapons — Venezuela has bought more than $4 billion in Russian arms, including Sukhoi fighter jets, helicopters and 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles, and more deals for Russian tanks or other weaponry may be discussed after Medvedev arrives Wednesday.

Russia's ambitions in Latin America, however, may be checked by global events. Both Venezuela and Russia are feeling the pinch of slumping oil prices, and their ability to be major benefactors for like-minded leaders is in doubt given the pressures of the world's financial crisis.
The deployment of the naval squadron is widely seen as a demonstration of Kremlin anger over the U.S. decision to send warships to deliver aid to Georgia after its battles with Russia, and over U.S. plans for a European missile-defense system.

But U.S. officials mocked the show of force.
"Are they accompanied by tugboats this time?" U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack joked to reporters in Washington. He noted that Russia's navy is but a shadow of its Soviet-era fleet.
"I don't think there's any question about ... who the region looks to in terms of political, economic, diplomatic and as well as military power," McCormack said. "If the Venezuelans and the Russians want to have, you know, a military exercise, that's fine. But we'll obviously be watching it very closely."

When Russia sent two strategic bombers to Venezuela in September, some drew comparisons to the Soviet Union's deployments to Cuba during the Cold War.

But both countries have shown signs of trying to engage President-elect Barack Obama, and Chavez told reporters that it's ludicrous to invoke the Cold War to describe these naval exercises.

"It's not a provocation. It's an exchange between two free countries," Chavez said Monday night.

The ship maneuvers inside Venezuela's economic zone in the eastern Caribbean will begin Dec. 1, enabling sailors to practice reconnaissance, anti-drug patrols, anti-terrorism and search and rescue operations. Rear Adm. Luis Morales said the training, including anti-aircraft exercises with Venezuela's newly bought Sukhoi fighter jets, will not involve live ammunition.

The maneuvers "should be viewed largely as a propaganda exercise," said analyst Anna Gilmour at Jane's Intelligence Review.

"Pragmatic Russian policy suggests that it will content itself with a brief high-profile visit, rather than a longer-term deployment that could cause severe tensions with the U.S., at a time when Russia may be looking to re-engage with the new administration," she said.

Medvedev's tour to Peru, Brazil, Venezuela and Cuba was planned before the financial crisis, and Russia must now downsize its ambitions in Latin America because its pockets are no longer so deep, said Fyodor Lukyanov, the editor of Russia in Global Affairs Magazine.

"Russia will have to put off big projects like the construction of a gas pipeline across South America," Lukyanov said. The proposed natural gas pipeline is Chavez's brainchild, a controversial and ambitious plan for which he has explored Russian investment.


But Russia still has an economic interest in selling more weapons and boosting business in Latin America, and Venezuela can help "open the doors," noted Venezuelan political scientist Ricardo Sucre Heredia.
"It's a win-win relationship for the two countries," Sucre said. "Russia gains in terms of its international power and its presence, and Venezuela gains in terms of having an ally."

____ Associated Press writers Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow, Desmond Butler in Washington and Ian James in Caracas contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081126/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_russia_13

Cant_Be_Faded
11-25-2008, 10:54 PM
LOL. Let them exercise. Russia's military and Navy is a paper tiger and that explosion last month demonstrated this to be true. Basically Russia is wasting millions of dollars to show off their fictional power when their net worth has dipped to mid90'sesque lows. This might have actually meant something if not for the global financial crisis. But even then, it would not have meant much. The crisis is also ameliorating any potential geopolitical setbacks that the Georgia/Russia issue led to.
Russia's even more hollowed out than ever before.
By the time they rebound, noone will remember or care about the day they spent millions of dollars to participate in a mutual naval jacking off with Venezuela.

Anti.Hero
11-25-2008, 10:57 PM
China, Venz, Russia...they have all been gangbanging each other lately.

Cant_Be_Faded
11-25-2008, 11:03 PM
Venezuela intrigues me. I think if Obama is half of what he has made himself out to be in the election, we have a chance to see what Hugo is really made out of.

One demagogue vs another. Should make for interesting developments.

Anti.Hero
11-25-2008, 11:08 PM
Hugo has already referred to Obama as "that black man" multiple times.

Obama won't do shit.

Cant_Be_Faded
11-25-2008, 11:23 PM
So? I refer to him as the black man too.
All I was trying to say is that Hugo Chavez's foreign and sometimes domestic policy has been based on his antagonistic relationship with a polar opposite like Bush. Now he doesn't have that. We will see what he's made of with the absence of that figure.
If he continues to call him 'the black man' and be the same old Hugo, then yeah, he's just a typical nutless yet socialist demagogue. But we will see.

MannyIsGod
11-25-2008, 11:58 PM
:lol @ the state department cracks. Russian naval strength is laughable. We would easily destroy them in any naval confrontation.