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duncan228
11-27-2008, 03:35 AM
Analysis: Spurs find another late draft pick gem in Hill (http://www.nba.com/2008/news/features/art_garcia/11/27/garcia.spurshill/index.html)
By Art Garcia, NBA.com

SAN ANTONIO -- The night belonged to a rookie point guard picked in the first round. Just not the one you're thinking of when the Bulls hit the floor.

George Hill stole the spotlight and the Spurs walked out with a 98-88 win by pulling away in from Chicago in the second half. Many of the 17,000-plus inside the AT&T Center were curious to see Derrick Rose, the top pick in the draft whose career is off to eye-opening start.

But the Silver & Black faithful have also quickly grown to love their first-year quarterback and Hill added to his budding legend Wednesday night. Picked 25 spots behind Rose, the find out of IUPUI (it's in Indianapolis) outplayed his heralded University of Memphis counterpart.

"That's me," Hill said after a 19-point, 11-rebound surge off the bench. "That's what I'm here for. I think that's why they chose me to be here. I compete. I don't give up on things and I try to defend to the best of my ability no matter who is in front of me."

San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich couldn't have scripted those words any better or found a better fit for his team that deep into the draft. The Spurs were the only team that had Hill on their radar in the first round, but this franchise knew what it was doing ... again. San Antonio hit on Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker when everyone else passed.

Hill has been a mountain so far.

"George has had a good season for a rookie that is learning his position," Popovich said. "And coming in and having the pressure on learning that position, I think he's done fantastic. He does a lot of things that go unnoticed, but it helps the team win. He plays an all-around game."

Rose had been, too, but this was a night when he and the Bulls (7-9) ran out of gas. It was the finale of the six-game western swing of Chicago's Circus Trip. The Spurs have an annual Rodeo Trip that's billed as one of self-discovery.

Going more than three weeks without a home game, as the rodeo takes root every February in their arena, doesn't break the Spurs. They usually come out a tighter unit prepared to take on the NBA world as the season winds down.

The Bulls' less-celebrated jaunt, thanks to Ringling Brothers & Barnum and Bailey, doesn't have that same noble purpose. It's more of an exercise in survival for Chicago, which last played in the friendly confines of the United Center on Nov. 15 and won't be back until Dec. 2. The seven-game trek actually ends Sunday at Philadelphia. The Bulls went 2-4 against six Western Conference playoff contenders. Rose definitely had his moments -- he scored 25 three times -- though this outing won't be on his personal highlight DVD when his rookie season wraps.

Ironically, Rose has quickly developed a rep for his killer instinct after halftime, but Hill outscored his fellow first-rounder 12-2 over the final two periods. The resurgent Spurs (8-6) made up a nine-point deficit early in the third with their returning supersub Ginobili, in only his second game back, and Hill leading the way.

"We had a nice lead and they made a couple of adjustments," Chicago first-year coach Vinny Del Negro said. "The boys got a little fatigued out there and they got us back on our heels."

Del Negro warned not to extract too much out of the roadie, at least compared to San Antonio's rodeo version. While the Spurs use their trip to refocus on what they do and bunker down for the stretch run, the Bulls are coming at it from a vastly different perspective.

For one, Chicago's trip comes too early in the season. The Bulls and their new coaching staff are still trying to get a feel for each other. While being away helps the bonding process, the lack of practice time slows the learning curve.

Not that Rose is lacking with it comes to basketball smarts. Del Negro admitted before the game he was happy his floor general didn't have to face Parker or Utah' s Deron Williams on the odyssey through the West.

But did Hill show up on Chicago's scouting report? Coming off three consecutive 20-point games, he should have been.

"George Hill and Kurt Thomas killed us with that pick-and-roll they ran," Bulls forward Drew Gooden lamented. "The game is like a chess match, especially when you go against a coach like Gregg Popovich. He always makes adjustments."

Hill sliced through the lane and finished at the rim repeatedly, ala Ginobili. The Bulls' frustration boiled over when Andres Nocioni hacked an attacking Hill across the shoulder to earn a flagrant foul early in the fourth. Obviously in pain at the time, Hill laughed it off later.

"I need to be like Ford," he quipped. "Built tough."

polandprzem
11-27-2008, 03:38 AM
Yup Hill lacks of dynamic power

YODA
11-27-2008, 09:52 AM
"George Hill and Kurt Thomas killed us with that pick-and-roll they ran," Bulls forward Drew Gooden lamented. "The game is like a chess match, especially when you go against a coach like Gregg Popovich. He always makes adjustments."


Maybe only a few caught this, but this is the key to Pops success. To many coaches wont make changes till its to late, while Pop will adjust right away. I still dont know how he picks his rotation, but thats also why Im not the coach.

This statement also shows the respect he gets from other NBA players.

Brazil
11-27-2008, 10:01 AM
Pop is doing a really amazing job ! He deserves his own thread to give prop to him for the good job.

I like the KT I saw yesterday, if he keeps stepping up it's all good for the spurs.

exstatic
11-27-2008, 10:16 AM
Pop is doing a really amazing job ! He deserves his own thread to give prop to him for the good job.

I like the KT I saw yesterday, if he keeps stepping up it's all good for the spurs.

He just needed some shots to fall. His rebounding had already been there. He was grabbing 3.3 in 14+ minutes, which bumped up to 3.8 after last night. :)

T Park
11-27-2008, 10:56 AM
Kurt Thomas just needed a training camp.

What you've been seeing the past couple weeks is his training camp.

hell now hes in his preseason.

Kurt Thomas will be the end of game center for the Spurs because he will always be that good of a defender, rebounder, and his jumper will always be that solid.

z0sa
11-27-2008, 12:58 PM
Kurt Thomas just needed a training camp.

What you've been seeing the past couple weeks is his training camp.

hell now hes in his preseason.

Kurt Thomas will be the end of game center for the Spurs because he will always be that good of a defender, rebounder, and his jumper will always be that solid.

Agree. KT's rebounding numbers just last season were pretty staggering, and that jumper of his will never be gone.

tomtom
11-27-2008, 01:58 PM
For anyone that watched the whole game, who was guarding Rose? Was it Hill or did pop throw Bowen on him?

florige
11-27-2008, 02:04 PM
I actually can't believe how well Hill and Mason are fitting into our system.

Whisky Dog
11-27-2008, 02:16 PM
For anyone that watched the whole game, who was guarding Rose? Was it Hill or did pop throw Bowen on him?

Bowen started the game on him and was on him during most times both were on the court.

Hill did guard him at times as well.

HarlemHeat37
11-27-2008, 02:38 PM
Hill completely shut down Ben Gordon when we switched him..that was his main assignment, and he dominated him..

Steve-O-Matic
11-27-2008, 02:43 PM
Impossible. SequSpur already declared Hill a total bust and a "complete waste of time" after one summer league game, so these guys obviously don't know what they're talking about, nor do the Spurs know what they're doing.

Clutch20
11-27-2008, 02:58 PM
"I need to be like Ford," he quipped. "Built tough."
Handles himself in front of the mic as well as he does on the court, this one's rookie status belies his composure.:hat

montgod
11-27-2008, 02:58 PM
"George Hill and Kurt Thomas killed us with that pick-and-roll they ran," Bulls forward Drew Gooden lamented. "The game is like a chess match, especially when you go against a coach like Gregg Popovich. He always makes adjustments."


Maybe only a few caught this, but this is the key to Pops success. To many coaches wont make changes till its to late, while Pop will adjust right away. I still dont know how he picks his rotation, but thats also why Im not the coach.

This statement also shows the respect he gets from other NBA players.

Oops, the "Hair" Del Negro ain't gonna like this comment. Watch Tyrus Thomas start next game...:lol

wisnub
11-27-2008, 03:00 PM
I cannot believe what I just saw within couple of games...Finally this is the news we all've been waiting for. Just like Star Wars,we got a new hope. I still cannot believe Hill slashed like Manu and shutdown play,and rebound as well..one or two steal was nice. I'm happy I was wrong to judge him...Mason also improving, we need his 3 points shots to be consistent. If Mahinmi also improving, after return of TP..this team might go all the way. I hope this streak will continue just like celtics and at the end anything is possible.

Still cant believe but It a really nice surprise...please continue all the way,dont stop

Anti.Hero
11-27-2008, 03:48 PM
Handles himself in front of the mic as well as he does on the court, this one's rookie status belies his composure.:hat

Except he mumbles horribly.

Duncan was horrible when he first got here, it's all good.

WildcardManu
11-27-2008, 05:05 PM
Except he mumbles horribly.

Duncan was horrible when he first got here, it's all good.

hehe, cool dexter avatar, goes with ur username

SpurSupremacist
11-27-2008, 06:16 PM
"George Hill and Kurt Thomas killed us with that pick-and-roll they ran," Bulls forward Drew Gooden lamented. "The game is like a chess match, especially when you go against a coach like Gregg Popovich. He always makes adjustments."


Maybe only a few caught this, but this is the key to Pops success. To many coaches wont make changes till its to late, while Pop will adjust right away. I still dont know how he picks his rotation, but thats also why Im not the coach.

This statement also shows the respect he gets from other NBA players.

For instance, that decision to put Michael Finley at Power Forward in the Mavs series.

tp2021
11-27-2008, 10:48 PM
I need to be like Ford. Built tough.Ha! The first thing I thought of was TJ Ford. :)

Darkwaters
11-27-2008, 11:05 PM
Ha! The first thing I thought of was TJ Ford. :)

Me too.

manufor3
11-27-2008, 11:53 PM
hill for mvp!