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Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:05 PM
Draftexpress explain how level of Euroleague is much higher than idiots here keep say

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/

In fact, Childress is not even scoring 20, or even 10 points per game in the Euroleague—he’s at 9.8 points in 27 minutes per game, which is the lowest scoring output he’s produced since his freshman year at Stanford. His field goal percentage is also at a career low thus far (since college at least), and he’s shooting an incredibly poor percentage from the free throw line (53%) and 3-point range (14%) as well.

Needless to say, high-level European basketball requires quite a bit of adjusting to, even for an incredibly smart and versatile talent like Childress.

Need more evidence? Childress is so far turning the ball over on 1/4th of his possessions, far more than he’s ever averaged in his career (last season 16%, the year before 14%). Clearly he’s having a hard time with the incredibly crowded paint that European basketball is known for, and possibly his role on the team or the expectations, and he’s getting very few calls from stingy refs to help him with that transition.

The biggest problem Childress has faced is with his shooting stroke, which has looked very poor thus far. His mechanics have always been about as awkward as you’ll find (think of a cross between Shawn Marion and Kevin Martin), but in the NBA he made shots at an outstanding rate both from the field (57% FG in 07-08—outrageous for a swingman) and beyond the arc (a respectable 37% on limited attempts in 07-08).

Even in college he made 1.5 3-pointers per game as both a sophomore and junior, but that just hasn’t been the case at all in Greece, though, which is surprising considering that the European 3-point line is substantially closer than in the NBA. NBA players faced the same exact problem in International play competing with Team USA, so it’s a bit disappointing that the first great export the NBA sends the Euroleague ends up getting tagged with the dreaded “American athlete who can’t shoot” label.

Borat
11-30-2008, 08:06 PM
Stop with your bullshit lie! You are bitchfuck!

MaNu4Tres
11-30-2008, 08:12 PM
I really believe there is less space on offense in the Euroleague due to the close 3-point line. To explain it's easier to rotate defensively and the holes to penetrate are not as big because of that simple reason. With that I believe thats the main component that hurts a slasher like Childress, not necessarily the competition. The best players are in the NBA period. Although there are a few exceptions.

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:16 PM
I really believe there is less space on offense in the Euroleague due to the close 3-point line. To explain it's easier to rotate defensively and the holes to penetrate are not as big because of that simple reason. With that I believe thats the main component that hurts a slasher like Childress, not necessarily the competition. The best players are in the NBA period. Although there are a few exceptions.

Funny how you use such excuse for Childress but Spanoulis is also slasher and he is 10 times better in Europe than CHildress is but idiots here say he cannot play in NBA :rolleyes

Manu is also slasher how come he have no problem in Europe then?

This is just one more excuse NBA fans make up because now same player they predict will be "Michael Jordan of Greece" is playing worse in Euroleague than he ever do in NBA even in rookie year of NBA.

NBA fans will spend whole life trying to imagine new excuses to show "NBA = 10 billions times better than Euroleague" :rolleyes

Is getting pathetic now. Childress is having hard time and he even has admit he had no idea level in Europe was so high and it is much better than he ever imagine. But NBA fans still talk same lies.

ShoogarBear
11-30-2008, 08:16 PM
I believe the lower angle shooting at the 9.5 foot rims is also playing a role.

mystargtr34
11-30-2008, 08:17 PM
Loren Woods - 21.6 PPG (3rd)
Stephane Lasme - 17.8 PPG (11th)
Boniface N'Dong - 15.6 PPG (20th)
Rawle Marshall - 14.6 PPG (22nd)

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:18 PM
Loren Woods - 21.6 PPG (3rd)
Stephane Lasme - 17.8 PPG (11th)
Boniface N'Dong - 15.6 PPG (20th)
Rawle Marshall - 14.6 PPG (22nd)

You are biggest idiot on board.

This is same as say Durant is best player in NBA

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:18 PM
I believe the lower angle shooting at the 9.5 foot rims is also playing a role.

If you can prove FIBA rim is 9.5 feet please do so and if not fuck off and die.

mystargtr34
11-30-2008, 08:19 PM
You are biggest idiot on board.

This is same as say Durant is best player in NBA

Loren Woods - 9.8 RPG (1st)

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:20 PM
Loren Woods - 9.8 RPG (1st)

Loren Woods team = NEVER win game in Euroleague this year

and you = biggest moron on this forum

sonic21
11-30-2008, 08:20 PM
I really believe there is less space on offense in the Euroleague due to the close 3-point line. To explain it's easier to rotate defensively and the holes to penetrate are not as big because of that simple reason. With that I believe thats the main component that hurts a slasher like Childress, not necessarily the competition. The best players are in the NBA period. Although there are a few exceptions.

there's no defensive 3 seconds; too many people in the paint.

MaNu4Tres
11-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Funny how you use such excuse for Childress but Spanoulis is also slasher and he is 10 times better in Europe than CHildress is but idiots here say he cannot play in NBA :rolleyes

Manu is also slasher how come he have no problem in Europe then?

This is just one more excuse NBA fans make up because now same player they predict will be "Michael Jordan of Greece" is playing worse in Euroleague than he ever do in NBA even in rookie year of NBA.

NBA fans will spend whole life trying to imagine new excuses to show "NBA = 10 billions times better than Euroleague" :rolleyes

Is getting pathetic now. Childress is having hard time and he even has admit he had no idea level in Europe was so high and it is much better than he ever imagine. But NBA fans still talk same lies.

the top 100 NBA players are far more talented and better than the top 100 players in the Euroleague PERIOD. END OF STORY

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:22 PM
there's no defensive 3 seconds; too many people in the paint.

How come Manu have no problem with it when he was there?

Only argument NBA fans can make is American players with good numbers on worst teams in all Euroleague even brag about Loren Woods numbers on team that has not even won 1 game even in the year.

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:23 PM
the top 100 NBA players are far more talented and better than the top 100 players in the Euroleague PERIOD. END OF STORY

You are idiot. You are really big idiot and bad at math.

MaNu4Tres
11-30-2008, 08:26 PM
How come Manu have no problem with it when he was there?

Only argument NBA fans can make is American players with good numbers on worst teams in all Euroleague even brag about Loren Woods numbers on team that has not even won 1 game even in the year.


Manu is one of the top 20 players in the world. Thats why he didnt have a problem with it dumbshit. Josh Childress was an average player here in the NBA nothing more. Josh Childress has an 7th grade like slow setshot release on his jumper that is easy to contest unless he is wide open. Most of his game here came in transition and penetrating. With penetrating being his biggest asset, no 3 second rule, less spacing will lead to an average like performance in the euroleague.

Kobayagi
11-30-2008, 08:29 PM
What are you doing up, KBP? Isn't it 3:30 am in Greece right now?

:D

mystargtr34
11-30-2008, 08:30 PM
Points
Carlos Arroyo - 15.75 PPG (8th)
Daniel Ewing - 14.2 PPG (16th)

Rebounds
Stephane Lasme - 8.8 RPG (3rd)

Assists
Omar Cook - 5.6 APG (1st)
Carlos Arroyo - 5 APG (4th)
Aaron Miles - 4.6 APG (5th)

mystargtr34
11-30-2008, 08:31 PM
What are you doing up, KBP? Isn't it 3:30 am in Greece right now?

:D

IndaZone livesin Houston

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:31 PM
Manu is one of the top 20 players in the world. Thats why he didnt have a problem with it dumbshit. Josh Childress was an average player here in the NBA nothing more. Josh Childress has an 7th grade like slow setshot release on his jumper that is easy to contest unless he is wide open. Most of his game here came in transition and penetrating. With penetrating being his biggest asset, no 3 second rule, less spacing will lead to an average like performance in the euroleague.

Are you stupid? You actual argue since it is harder to score in Europe this = "NBA is clearly better".

You need serious reading of the books.

Kobayagi
11-30-2008, 08:32 PM
IndaZone livesin Houston

I know, that's why I'm asking. :downspin:

CubanMustGo
11-30-2008, 08:33 PM
You need serious reading of the books.
You need serious reaming of the Comcast.

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:33 PM
Points
Carlos Arroyo - 15.75 PPG (8th)
Daniel Ewing - 14.2 PPG (16th)

Rebounds
Stephane Lasme - 8.8 RPG (3rd)

Assists
Omar Cook - 5.6 APG (1st)
Carlos Arroyo - 5 APG (4th)
Aaron Miles - 4.6 APG (5th)

You are such moron. Do you not wonder why they are on losing teams? They were not even good enough to get contract in good club. Even Arroyo tried get in better club than Maccabi and was laughed at by teams like CSKA and PAO.

If NBA players are so superior how come only Childress was even able to get contract from good club?

From now on all players on T-Wolves or Thunder is better than any Spurs player if they have better stat. This base on your logic. Yes Durant is better than Manu and Jefferson is better than Duncan because this is how retarded you are.

Drew Nicholas lead Euroleague in scoring and now on PAO he average like 5 points a game you idiot. I bet you also believe averaging 20 points on worst teams in NBA is same as getting 20 points on team like Celtics. You may have never actual see basketball game in your life.

sonic21
11-30-2008, 08:37 PM
indazone?
what?

MaNu4Tres
11-30-2008, 08:42 PM
NBA> Eurofaggotleague

sonic21
11-30-2008, 08:46 PM
NBA> Eurofaggotleague

so Manu was a faggot?

:stirpot:

MaNu4Tres
11-30-2008, 08:47 PM
so Manu was a faggot?

:stirpot:


Manu is a warrior and a champion how dare you.


All the scared faggots of the NBA run to hide in Europe.period end of story.

tlongII
11-30-2008, 08:52 PM
If you can prove FIBA rim is 9.5 feet please do so and if not fuck off and die.

:lmao

Kill_Bill_Pana
11-30-2008, 08:55 PM
Manu is a warrior and a champion how dare you.


All the scared faggots of the NBA run to hide in Europe.period end of story.

Manu already say when his contract is up he will 50/50 stay in NBA or return to Euroleague. So you are saying he is scared faggot then. You are no fan of Spurs.

angelbelow
11-30-2008, 09:15 PM
I Dont Believe You!

Kobayagi
12-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Sani Becirovic was the Euroleague MVP in november. :cheer


Wasn't he drafted by some nba team years ago? The Nuggets maybe?



It's not fair, the MVP should've been one of the Greeks. :( :depressed



IS LIES!!!

TDMVPDPOY
12-01-2008, 12:22 PM
kbp ur an idiot.

using childress as means test for the talent of the nba? childress is a fkn scrub player when he was with the hawks and now in euro being overpaid....at best he was only worth about MLE-6M range...his skillset was still fkn raw, nothing special.

Iakchos Kadmos
12-01-2008, 01:25 PM
Stop with your bullshit lie! You are bitchfuck!
I am not liking you.

Kill_Bill_Pana
12-01-2008, 02:11 PM
Sani Becirovic was the Euroleague MVP in november. :cheer


Wasn't he drafted by some nba team years ago? The Nuggets maybe?



It's not fair, the MVP should've been one of the Greeks. :( :depressed



IS LIES!!!


Sani is very very good player he is on same team as Brandon Jennings and also some other former NBA players and he is by far their best player this year. At age 19 he outplay Manu in the Euroleague finals series. But of course on defense Sani is one of worst players in Europe. He can help certain NBA teams that needs offense at his position but in other team that need defense at his position he would be very bad.

It is defense issues why he has never play in NBA. He was leading scorer on Panathinaikos in Euroleague when team win championship in 2007 so PAO fans know what he is capable of, but when Spanouli come to PAO Sani was bench of course in favor of Spanoulis by coach because Spanoulis is great in BOTH offense and defense.

Kill_Bill_Pana
12-01-2008, 02:12 PM
kbp ur an idiot.

using childress as means test for the talent of the nba? childress is a fkn scrub player when he was with the hawks and now in euro being overpaid....at best he was only worth about MLE-6M range...his skillset was still fkn raw, nothing special.

LIAR

He is above average NBA player EVERY year of his career. Now you are try to change this with lies he was "scrub" in NBA.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_childress/career_stats.html