RUMOR: Hold the fucking phone! Spurs dealing with Kings?!?!?!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This is off of fanball, so take it FWIW...

ESPNradio is reporting : PEJA/SKINNER for ROSE/B.BARRY/Picks



:blah

[baseline bum]

You gotta be kidding me. Stojakovic for nothing? No way.

[ChumpDumper]

Can't be done. Skinner can't be packaged. Would have to be seperate trades.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Someone please tell me this can't work, I am about to jump through the damn roof.

[Kori Ellis]

No way.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Chump,

Can't players be turned around and traded within 24 hours?

[ShoogarBear]

Shit. I don't know if I want the dynamics changed this much.

This only works if Peja is willing to come off the bench.

[timvp]

Jimcs50 at it again.

[baseline bum]

I know they just traded Webber for nothing, but come on... you can't seriously believe this when Webber was traded to keep Peja happy.

[ChumpDumper]

Can't players be turned around and traded within 24 hours?Don't think that rule has been in effect for years. A player can be traded again at any time, but not in a package for I believe 90 days.

[baseline bum]

BTW, what is fanball?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Okay, I quit... I just looked up salaries and they're 150K off.

[ShoogarBear]

I thought the rule applied if you were traded for in a 1-for-1, but if you came in a package you can be traded in another package.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

baseline - fantasy sports news/message boards.

[Tek_XX]

Nobody wants what we got, all of this is rumor.

[timvp]

Someone else in the world had to have been listeing to ESPN radio. Anyone else hear this?

I'd believe Sequ joins the Spurs before this trade goes thru though.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I've got ESPN Radio on right now, they're discussing the CWeb trade.

[timvp]

Fanball Thread (http://forums.fanball.com/forum.bb?prg=board~action=topic~cid=8~fid=16~tid=1 0041~20050224011022)

[spur219]

This can't be true at all.

[baseline bum]

This should be locked. No disrespect to you AHF, but a post on another board isn't a credible source.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

None taken base, it's just a rumor but what the hell, inside of 24 hours this will all be resolved one way or another.

[SequSpur]

This should be locked. No disrespect to you AHF, but a post on another board isn't a credible source.


Locks and deletes are controlling measures by other forums. Most of us here are smart enough to make our own decisions about what is legit info rather than having someone dictate it to us.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

BTW, for some of you asking why the Webber deal was done, or why this is a possibility after that...

Just got off the phone with a buddy in Seattle. Apparently the Kings owners were trying to get a new arena deal done but the finances fell through on it. So the word on the left coast is that the Maloof Bros. have set forth to make the necessary preperations to move the team to another city via sale.

[maxpower]

Locks and deletes are controlling measures by other forums. Most of us here are smart enough to make our own decisions about what is legit info rather than having someone dictate it to us.
delusional forum

[ChumpDumper]

:hat

[T Park]

that city would more than likely be St Louis.

Or Anaheim.


Dont know where else they could go.

[SequSpur]

The Kings aren't going anywhere.

[TheWriter]

Or Vegas.... maybe San Diego.... maybe Kanasa...

[T Park]

Vegas would be shot down, Stern isn't keen on a team there.

San Diego doesn't have the facilities.


St Louis has a 17 thousand seat arena, and nothin goin on in the winter.


The Saavis Center would easily be upgraded for the Maloofs, or Bill Lawrie if he chooses to buy the Kings.

[PM5K]

Well it will all be over tomorrow, I personally enjoy it even though the Spurs usually do nothing....

[TheWriter]

Didn't Kansas just build anew 18,000 or 19,000 seat arena?

How about we give New Orleans two NBA teams... their fans are AAAwesome!

[Kori Ellis]

Well it will all be over tomorrow, I personally enjoy it even though the Spurs usually do nothing....

I think the same way. It's fun to speculate even though usually nothing happens.

[T Park]

This will go down about the Same time the

Rasho for Erick Dampier trade goes down.


And the Mercer for Sura trade.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The Maloof boys are big in Vegas. You can bet your ass they'd love to move the team there.

[T Park]

They would, and they have talked to Stern about it.


But supposedly Stern has a bug up his ass about no teams in Vegas.


Sure put a team in the Phillapeans before Vegas that makes sense Stern.


I think its silly. Theres minor league teams in Vegas and they work just fine.

[Duff McCartney]

After the Motown Meltdown..there's no way I think a team gets moved to Sin City, after that fiasco the NBA is trying to clean up it's image. The last thing it wants is a team in a city where gambling and prostitution run rampant.

[jalbre6]

Vegas will get an NBA team before any other major league 'chise sets up shop. What they will do is suspend betting on whatever team moves there... the mayor of LV has said as much. I'm almost surprised that the MLB Devil Rays haven't relocated there yet.

Fastest growing population, money, and hoops fans to boot. Someone, if not the Kings, will be there within 5 years.

[Kori Ellis]

I think an NBA team in Vegas would be a disaster (I'm not saying it wouldn't happen). Imagine all the broke players on that team .. spending all their money on gambling and ho's.

:lmao

[TheWriter]

If a major pro sport wanted to be there, they would. There's a reason they're not knocking on Vegas' door to be welcomed in.

[SpursWoman]

I think an NBA team in Vegas would be a disaster (I'm not saying it wouldn't happen). Imagine all the broke players on that team .. spending all their money on gambling and ho's.

:lmao


:lol


True that....although, I'd definitely be up for a road trip GTG. :smokin

[jalbre6]

It's far more likely that a team will relocate there rather than Vegas be granted an expansion franchise. The Kings are at the top of the list.

[tsb2000]

From what I've heard, the Maloofs were ready to pay for the reloc themselves, including a new arena, if the league would let them move the Kings to LV. Stern has repeatedly said no way. It used to be that ITT-Sheraton owned Caesar's Palace along with Madison Square Garden. They also owned the Knicks and the (NHL) Rangers. People couldn't bet on either at CP. Then again, Nevada law did change to allow wagers on UNLV and Nevada-Reno sports, so I guess maybe gambling on a Vegas NBA team might be allowed. They would definitely make $$$, for sure.

[PM5K]

I would never play cards with Pop, he can bluff and has the poker face from hell, for all we know Pop is trading away half the team as we speak, or not....

[TheWriter]

It's far more likely that a team will relocate there rather than Vegas be granted an expansion franchise. The Kings are at the top of the list.

Then why hasn't it happen already?

Las Vegas has been the fastest growing sprawlzille for awhile now. Had a lot of money for awhile too.

Yet a NBA (Memphis,New Orleans), MLB (Expos), NHL (whoever) nor a NFL (Rams, Jags, Panthers) team has never seriously talked about moving their.

Hmm... wonder why?

Kansas, St Louis, San Diego, San Fran, and probably Disney World... I mean Anahiem will all get a pro sport before Vegas.

[jalbre6]

Writer- that's becuase nobody has taken the plunge. Someone will relo there, and then plenty will follow suit. The deal is that noone has sacked up and done so yet.

[TheWriter]

Writer- that's becuase nobody has taken the plunge. Someone will relo there, and then plenty will follow suit. The deal is that noone has sacked up and done so yet.

Because it's a stupid move. First of all.

No commish would allow it.

If there was something to gain ina relocation or new fran. a sport team would have "acked up" a long time a ago. Because no pro sport is dumb enough to turn down sure money.

[timvp]

There will be a pro team in Las Vegas within five years. Guaranteed. There is too much money to be made.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Writer do you have any knowledge of anything outside of SA?

The Maloof brothers (owners of the Kings) own the Palms Hotel, probably one of the hottest hotel/club properties in all of Vegas.

They have ties to Vegas like no other ownership group before them, and are willing to get it done.

[jalbre6]

If Bob Irsay will load up Mayflower moving vans and move in the dark of night to Indianapolis, someone will do the same for Vegas. Book it.

[TheWriter]

Writer do you have any knowledge of anything outside of SA?

The Maloof brothers (owners of the Kings) own the Palms Hotel, probably one of the hottest hotel/club properties in all of Vegas.

They have ties to Vegas like no other ownership group before them, and are willing to get it done.

Nah really. I had no idea George Maloof (one of the four brothers) owned the Palm... you can't watch any damn entertainment show without them mentioning the Palm and the Ghost bar and the real world room. I know a lot more about what happens outside this city then you think and that you know for yourself.

And again.

The Maloofs have wanted to move the team there for a long time, it's no secret. It's also no secret that NBA commish David Stern has repeatedly said what most women say to you. No. And as you have become familiar with, no means no.

[jalbre6]

I think an NBA team in Vegas would be a disaster (I'm not saying it wouldn't happen). Imagine all the broke players on that team .. spending all their money on gambling and ho's.

Kori, aren't you from LA? Remember the old rumors about the Clippers moving there?

[nacho estrada]

The first league to sell out would likely be the big money N.B.A.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

LOL, okay Buddy. Call me when you get that freeway done down on the soutside. Express route to Mexico City, was it?

You don't seem to realize something. David Stern is a business man. He cares about money first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and when he gets to six he refers to one.

There hasn't been a leadership group in place like the Maloofs with the political, economic, and community clout to shoulder a franchise move to Vegas. That's no longer a problem.

I should have figured you were a Real World watching retard, it sounds about right.

Run along now, time to go beat off to your Dusty/Dizz tag team tea bag poster hanging over your bed.

[TheWriter]

LOL, okay Buddy. Call me when you get that freeway done down on the soutside. Express route to Mexico City, was it?

You don't seem to realize something. David Stern is a business man. He cares about money first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and when he gets to six he refers to one.

There hasn't been a leadership group in place like the Maloofs with the political, economic, and community clout to shoulder a franchise move to Vegas. That's no longer a problem.

I should have figured you were a Real World watching retard, it sounds about right.

Yeah, original comeback. A freeway. Damn, by now I'd figure you'd come back with a much better diss or anything that would be remotely original or something.

It's sad really.

And yeah, Stern is a business man. A smart one. And he knows it wouldn't work in Vegas.

And numnuts... this isn't new, the Maloofs have wanted to move to Las Vegas before. Did they suddenly grow this super power over night?

Dude, what's next? A diss about me building a skyscraper up your Mom's pooper?

[jalbre6]

Aggie's got his shit together. Stern is smart enough to realize that being the firse pro franchise in Vegas, trumping MLB, NHL, and NFL, is worth millions, maybe even the b-word. That's why either NO or Sacto will relo there in the next five years. If the Maloof want it bad enough it will happen. Otherwise some other team will set up camp there and will reap the benefits.

[TheWriter]

Aggie's got his shit together. Stern is smart enough to realize that being the firse pro franchise in Vegas, trumping MLB, NHL, and NFL, is worth millions, maybe even the b-word. That's why either NO or Sacto will relo there in the next five years. If the Maloof want it bad enough it will happen. Otherwise some other team will set up camp there and will reap the benefits.

If he's going to cash in so big, why hasn't he put a team there?

Because the bad outweighs the good.

[jalbre6]

Writer,

I get where you're coming from. Some major sports team in the next five years will move to Vegas. They will make a shitload of money, and then others stuck in bad leases and whatnot will follow suit. It just makes sense tat the NBA, the most forward thinking of all US major leagues, would bat leadoff.

[TheWriter]

Do you know how you sound?

You have it seem like you have this power to tell the future, but you have yet to this point used it to get the lotto numbers and make big big bank.

Why haven't you done it already?

[jalbre6]

If he's going to cash in so big, why hasn't he put a team there?

I can blame society, the duly-elected government, and numerous others. The time hasn't been right yet. Soon, it will be.

[TheWriter]

I can blame society, the duly-elected government, and numerous others. The time hasn't been right yet. Soon, it will be.

But the time was right for Memphis? New 'freakin we avg. less than 10 people a game" Orleans?

Hell, even Charlotte got a new NBA team.

That's three shots for Vegas...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I call you a 'tard because you are one, and I rag on you about your little spursreport freeway dream because it may quite possibly be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of you trying to rag on someone about getting some.

Show me where the Maloofs have tried to move the team to Vegas before. They may have talked about it before to get a sweeter deal for something up in Sacramento, but that's about it.

The financing for a new Sacto arena just got shot down, this Webber trade is more handwriting on the wall - they don't want to be saddled with a broken down CWeb trying to move the team.

Again, Stern is a businessman. Before when moves were discussed, Vegas was just a gambling mecca. It's now the fastest growing metropolitan area in America, and there is a shitload of money there.

With shows like NBC's "Vegas" on tv, the negative gambling stigma of Vegas has largely dissipated. You could even throw in the Real World Vegas, the young folks seem to dig that MTV shit especially hard. That public relations nightmare is no longer a concern.

Think about the suites alone - they could put the nicest suites ever made in a pro arena in that place, charge whatever they want, and the casinos would snatch them right up to have for their big clients. I mean they could charge a million dollars a suite and put 50 of them in that thing, and they'd all be gone like that. Talk about revenue stream for the league!

Christ, a franchise in Vegas would probably net over a billion dollars a year. Stern may have concerns, but you go and put 9 zeros on his desk, and well, money talks. Bullshit (like yours) walks.

[TheWriter]

And in terms of the NFL, it's pretty much viewed as the next team to relocate is going to LA followed closing by SA. Relocation or new fran.

[jalbre6]

Do you know how you sound?
You have it seem like you have this power to tell the future, but you have yet to this point used it to get the lotto numbers and make big big bank.

Why haven't you done it already?

I'm sorry if I offended you with my forward thinking. I really don;t mean to upset you. The deal is that money goes first and everything else is secondary. Stern, Selig, Bettman, and Tagliabue are all realists. Sooner or later one of them are going to realize that they are missing a market that would benefit them. Once one of them folds, the others will follow.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Memphis was hot because of the Nashville/country music boom.

New Orleans (Jazz) and Charlotte both had histories in the sport on their side. Yeah, like Stern is going to pass up a black owner (don't shoot the messenger) in a city that was bent over like Charlotte was by an asshole owner.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

:lol


followed closing by SA.

Keep living that highway dream. If an NBA franchise goes to LV, there will be an NFL team there long before there is one in SA.\

San Antonio's best shot at an NFL franchise just went bye bye when McCombs agreed to sell the Vikings.

[T Park]

in terms of the NFL, it's pretty much viewed as the next team to relocate is going to LA followed closing by SA

puhlease.

San Antonio isnt even on the goddamn radar for the NFL.

Its LA, then Vegas numbnuts.


Isn't it time to give Crusty his bunions a rub.

[jalbre6]

San Antonio's best shot at an NFL franchise just went bye bye when McCombs agreed to sell the Vikings.

SA will get a franchise in about ten years, once Austin is considered part of the same market. The NFL knows how football crazy Texas is. Look at how the Texans were given a 'chise when LA was without a team.

[TheWriter]

I call you a 'tard because you are one, and I rag on you about your little spursreport freeway dream because it may quite possibly be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, outside of you trying to rag on someone about getting some.

My dreams? Or my idea's. Hey buddy, at least I have ideas. At least I am creative. That's a lot more then can be said for you, but I guess that's now much seeing your handle has Aggie in it.


Show me where the Maloofs have tried to move the team to Vegas before. They may have talked about it before to get a sweeter deal for something up in Sacramento, but that's about it.

It's well known.


The financing for a new Sacto arena just got shot down, this Webber trade is more handwriting on the wall - they don't want to be saddled with a broken down CWeb trying to move the team.

They'll most likely sell the team because they can't relocate to Vegas.


Again, Stern is a businessman. Before when moves were discussed, Vegas was just a gambling mecca. It's now the fastest growing metropolitan area in America, and there is a shitload of money there.

Vegas was the fastest growing sprawlzilla metro in the US long before Memphis got their team. Before New Orleans got their team. Before Charlotte got thier team. Good one though.


With shows like NBC's "Vegas" on tv, the negative gambling stigma of Vegas has largely dissipated.

And you rag on me for mentioning the Real World. And I guess CSI Miami has help Miami... aw, never mind.


You could even throw in the Real World Vegas, the young folks seem to dig that MTV shit especially hard. That public relations nightmare is no longer a concern.

Wait, I mention RW and you spoon feed me crap about it... ok, whatever bro.

And speaking of a Las Vegas image...

Las Vegas... What happens here, stays here. Or whatever their tourist slogan is. Nice huh...


Christ, a franchise in Vegas would probably net over a billion dollars a year. Stern may have concerns, but you go and put 9 zeros on his desk, and well, money talks. Bullshit (like yours) walks.

So I'm guessing that's why Las Vegas already has the NFL... MLB... NHL... ?? Wait... the XFL...?

[TheWriter]

Memphis was hot because of the Nashville/country music boom.

New Orleans (Jazz) and Charlotte both had histories in the sport on their side. Yeah, like Stern is going to pass up a black owner (don't shoot the messenger) in a city that was bent over like Charlotte was by an asshole owner.

Damn... are you living in the 1980's?

Black owner over money... shoot yeah.

Nashville/country music boom... shoot yeah! 1988.

Dude, a little country boom in another city wasn't the reason Stern put a team there.

And last time I checked, the country boom in Nashville was late 80's, early 90's. You know, when Nashville based channels like CMT and TNN came on air.

Dumbass. I mean, Aggie.

[TheWriter]

puhlease.

San Antonio isnt even on the goddamn radar for the NFL.

Its LA, then Vegas numbnuts.


Isn't it time to give Crusty his bunions a rub.

Why dont you go ask the poters at www.skyscraperpage.com

People from all over the US, whenever asked about this seem to have LA then SA.

Not just me.

[MannyIsGod]

Would any of those people include NFL owners? I think not.

[TheWriter]

This message is hidden because Aggie Hoopsfan is on your ignore list.

Oh hells yeah! I'm done with the Aggie. I felt my brain cells pop away as I continued to argue with her.

[TheWriter]

Would any of those people include NFL owners? I think not.

I don't know. How about Red McCombs and Tom Benson.

Both who strongly believe the NFL should already be here.

But naw... I guess since only Benson is a NFL owner now, it doesn't matter.

[TheWriter]

Anyways, back to this piped up rumor.

Any more news?

[jalbre6]

Writer,

The perception of Vegas has changed from Sin City to a sprawling Sin-Cty lite metropolis. At least as far as I know. I've never been off the strip in my visits there, but apparently they have a vibrant modern city away from where I get drunk and play blackjack.

[TheWriter]

Writer,

The perception of Vegas has changed from Sin City to a sprawling Sin-Cty lite metropolis. At least as far as I know. I've never been off the strip in my visits there, but apparently they have a vibrant modern city away from where I get drunk and play blackjack.

Virbant modern city away from the strip?

Trust me. The strip is the jewel of that city. And that's not saying much.

I have a cousin who moved from SA to LV as he tried to pursue acting. Why Vegas and not LA? I don't know. Anyway, that failed for him after starring in a few indie movies and getting nowhere. But he found a good job there. Still lives there. Actually pretty far from the strip.

I've been there three times.

Once you get out of the strip/downtown area... it's pure evil sprawl of the worst kind.

[TheWriter]

Las Vegas outside the strip and CBD:

http://www.mongabay.org/images/grandcanyon/0621_sprawl_las_vegas_01.jpg
http://www.mongabay.org/images/grandcanyon/0621_sprawl_las_vegas_03.jpg
http://www.mongabay.org/images/grandcanyon/0621_sprawl_las_vegas_02.jpg
http://www.mongabay.org/images/grandcanyon/0621_golf_course_vegas.jpg

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

don't know. How about Red McCombs and Tom Benson.

Red McCombs opinion is about as relevant as your existence, which isn't saying a whole lot.

[TheWriter]

http://repo.jackmoves.com/albums/album65/cant_see_shit_001.jpg
Aggie!

[Kaster]

Not going to happen in 10 million years.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Writer, just leave me on your ignore list. I'm not going to get into the same stupid juvenile shit with you that permeated spursreport. just go back to your board and talk shit with one of Dusty's 88 aliases, tell everyone how you're going to bring a great international highway to the southside, and get it over with.

[TheWriter]

Please, somebody, tell me if the Aggie is trying to communicate with someone (me) who has him on ignore. Please tell me the Aggie is... lol

What an Aggie.

I did get your message Aggie. And you’re right. I do rule. Have a wonder day Aggie. Tell your Mom not to put the helmet on so tight this time.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Ow, insulting my mom. Yep, you do belong at sarsreport.

[NZHayden]

Heres an outrageous idea. An NBA team in OKLAHOMA CITY!
wouldnt that be off the hook! although you would have to rearrange the western conference a little, wouldnt have a clue how to but yeah, forget LV bring on OKC!
(im not on drugs)

[Duncanoypi]

so where does this thread lead to?....

the only info that we need is if this trade is true or not...

[Spurminator]

Pro teams in Las Vegas are inevitable. Las Vegas is the fastest-growing city in the nation right now.

[T Park]

Get the fuck out writer.

We dont want any more Spursreport flunkies over here.


Your constant mother bashing is stupid inane and childish.


Be gone moron.

[benjirh]

In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This two-month restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap.

This comes straight from http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#71. A very reliable salary cap source.

[TheWriter]

Get the fuck out writer.

We dont want any more Spursreport flunkies over here.


Your constant mother bashing is stupid inane and childish.


Be gone moron.

Who's going to "get the fuck out" or "be gone" first.

Me with my Mother bashing which is "stupid inana and childish” <– Nice grammar and spelling.

Or TPark who is too emotionally unstable and digs holes in the park and lies in them when he gets his feelings hurt on this board.

How many "this is my last post ehre" posts and threads are you going to make before it actually happens TPark?

Come on, enough with the teasing. Your mother was one too. :elephant

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well if history has any precedence, TPark will be posting with all of us cool kids while you're stuck beating off with Dizz about all of Dusty's "inside scoops."