Rasho's floater

[Solid D]

Scene: 4th quarter @ SBC Center, Spurs v. Rockets
Spurs leading by 7 with 3:57 remaining
Rasho standing wide open on the low block
Manu sees and feeds Rasho

If given this situation...
*Amare would throw it down while still going up
*KG would double clutch slam it with a post dunk, then give that Sigourney Weaver/Alien scowl.
*Shaq would do tricep-presses with the rim
*Matt Bullard would step back and hit a three

and what does Rasho do?

He lofts a 1.5 meter floater that bounces high off the rim and finally chooses to stay in the cylinder and softly nestles into the net.

Rasho was solid on defense again with 3 blocks and he went 4-4 from the floor, but.....

Throw it down, Rasho, throw it down!

[timvp]

OMG, that was the weakest attempt I have ever seen.

[PM5K]

Two points is two points baby, he can shoot granny free throws for all I care....

[SequSpur]

BB,

Boozer would've slammed it home....

[T Park]

hmm

the dunk by amare counts as more points than Rasho's hook???


Okiedokie.

[PM5K]

I think Amare would have done some pushups as well, I think you get extra points for that or something.....

[T Park]

3 blocks and he went 4-4 from the floor

all in limited minutes due to a couple of total Bullshit calls.


The above is a solid night for any center outside Shaq, Z, and Miller

its a good night.

BUT, gotta find somethin.

[Solid D]

:)

[san antonio spurs]

Scene: 4th quarter @ SBC Center, Spurs v. Rockets
Spurs leading by 7 with 3:57 remaining
Rasho standing wide open on the low block
Manu sees and feeds Rasho

If given this situation...
*Amare would throw it down while still going up
*KG would double clutch slam it with a post dunk, then give that Sigourney Weaver/Alien scowl.
*Shaq would do tricep-presses with the rim
*Matt Bullard would step back and hit a three

and what does Rasho do?

He lofts a 1.5 meter floater that bounces high off the rim and finally chooses to stay in the cylinder and softly nestles into the net.

Rasho was solid on defense again with 3 blocks and he went 4-4 from the floor, but.....

Throw it down, Rasho, throw it down!
I'm surprised you wrote this
dude got a decent game, 4-4 FG, excellent defense(3 blks),in limited minutes...
let weird phenomon like sequ do it,aight?
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[TDMVPDPOY]

i think his tryin to say that rashos floater is high percentage of not makin it, wherelse if u dunk it and not miss it is another question, hence i would like to see rasho throw it down hard and hang on the rim by his elbow and come down do a few pushups, get back up do the VC expression "its over".

[Solid D]

I like Rasho and I defend him regularly in here. Sometimes it's just T-Park and me and some of our Balkan Buddies...however I've always been frustrated by his lack of aggressiveness on offense.

I call it like I see it. It's the truth.

[Solid D]

One more thing...I wasn't at the game but I would have loved to have seen the reaction on the Spurs bench when he took the floater.

If Tony gets $100 from Timmy for his dunk tonight, then Rasho should pay Timmy 20,000 Tolars for that floater. :hat

[Slo spurs fan]

I like Rasho and I defend him regularly in here. Sometimes it's just T-Park and me and some of our Balkan Buddies...however I've always been frustrated by his lack of aggressiveness on offense.

I call it like I see it. It's the truth.


:wtf :flipoff :cuss Slovenia is NOT on Balkan!!!!!!! :nope

[boutons]

"Slovenia is NOT on Balkan"

Bill Gates' dumbed-down Encarta even has Slovenia in the Balkans:

"Balkan Peninsula,
peninsula in southeastern Europe, bounded on the east by the Black and Aegean seas, on the south by the Mediterranean Sea, and on the west by the Adriatic and Ionian seas. It comprises the countries of

Slovenia,
Croatia,
Bosnia and Herzegovina,
the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia,
Serbia and Montenegro (formerly the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia),
Albania,
Greece,
Romania,
Bulgaria,
and European Turkey.

The northern boundary is geographically defined as the Sava River; the lower Danube River from the point, at Belgrade in Serbia, where the Sava joins it; and a line drawn arbitrarily from the upper Sava to the Adriatic near Rijeka, Croatia. This boundary is easily recognizable on a map and, with a few exceptions, encompasses the countries generally defined as Balkan states, but it has no physiographical justification. It is historically justifiable because the region so defined (together with Romania and excluding Montenegro, Dalmatia, and the Ionian Islands) constituted most of the European territory of the Ottoman Empire from the late 15th to the 19th century."

[Dario]

First of all slovenia is part of balkan, most of us are ashame of it, but thats the fact, and second: i wanna see that floater! :)

[ShoogarBear]

I went nuts in chat after that floater:

DUNK THE F^%#($% BALL!!!

And the Slovenians need to get back to us when they've reached an agreement on the Balkans.

[TwoHandJam]

I like Rasho and I defend him regularly in here. Sometimes it's just T-Park and me and some of our Balkan Buddies...however I've always been frustrated by his lack of aggressiveness on offense.

I call it like I see it. It's the truth.
Amen.

If that shot had rimmed out I would have destroyed some inanimate object in my home. Why on earth would you not dunk the ball when you're 7 feet tall and 2 feet from the rim?

[GrandeDavid]

I didn't watch the game but I liked your post, Solid D. That seems high risk and silly not to just lean in and flush it. What's up with the high bouncing floater shit?

[smeagol]

This is the reason why people view Rasho as soft. Dunk the fvcking ball!

[boutons]

Sean Elliott is just a (pleasant) homer.
He called Rasho's floater and other FGs a "great soft shooting touch" :)

[CosmicCowboy]

If Tony gets $100 from Timmy for his dunk tonight, then Rasho should pay Timmy 20,000 Tolars for that floater.

Timmy didn't have to pay Tony for the dunk last night...after the Spurs broke out into a safe lead Timmy took and made a 3 pointer so their bet was a push...I was laughing my ass off about that when it happened...

[Useruser666]

Rasho had a great game. He should have taken that up strong. There is no excuse for that, PERIOD! That same play could have cost the Spurs a win. I don't know why he doesn't go strong to the hole.

[TDMVPDPOY]

whose more softer? rasho or yao?

[T Park]

lol.

Classic, now people are ripping Rasho's MAKES.



Only this team, only Rasho, only these spectacular fans.


This a new one I gotta admit, ripping a player for a made shot.

[kskonn]

I would have to say Yao. Rasho is only soft on offense, usually stands pretty tough on defense. Yao is like a better rik smits.

[Slomo]

:wtf :flipoff :cuss Slovenia is NOT on Balkan!!!!!!! :nope Geographically speaking Slovenia does lie (at least its largest part) on the Balkan peninsula, which in fact makes it part of the Balkans. There is no need to be ashamed of that fact since how can you be ashamed of geography?

Of course in our parts of the world the word Balkan is synonymous with cursing, betrayal and despicable behavior, but it has nothing to do with its location and all to do with its people, so if you do not want to be part of that Balkan just behave accordingly and do not be offended by a mere geographical term.

[Slomo]

Rasho had a great game. He should have taken that up strong. There is no excuse for that, PERIOD! That same play could have cost the Spurs a win. I don't know why he doesn't go strong to the hole. Could have.... Should have....

Man U666 this one is pretty weak. We're used to better takes from you.


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[T Park]

^^^^

No, were used to his Rasho bashing.


BUT HES NOT BASHING RASHO!!!!


Whatever. Amazing how Rasho is the only one I see him critisized.

If Rasho plays normal minutes last night VS Yao, Yao gets about 10 or 12 points instead of 19.

[Solid D]

Geographically speaking Slovenia does lie (at least its largest part) on the Balkan peninsula, which in fact makes it part of the Balkans. There is no need to be ashamed of that fact since how can you be ashamed of geography?

Of course in our parts of the world the word Balkan is synonymous with cursing, betrayal and despicable behavior, but it has nothing to do with its location and all to do with its people, so if you do not want to be part of that Balkan just behave accordingly and do not be offended by a mere geographical term.

So when Pop goes "Serbian" on the players at halftime, is that similar to going "Balkan" on them?

BTW, I still love Rasho, even though he didn't take it strong to the cup. He played excellent D. :hat

[Useruser666]

Could have.... Should have....

Man U666 this one is pretty weak. We're used to better takes from you.


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What is wrong with that take? I said he played good, but he needs to finish those types of plays with authority. That barely went in and it could be the type of play that haunts the Spurs in the playoffs. There is no reason why he couldn't have stuffed it.

I'm not calling him soft for not showing flash or power, I'm saying that not taking it strong to the hole in that situation is the same thing as not boxing out for a board. It is a mental mistake.

T Park, you must be dizzy from riding the T Cup ride, because I did complement Rasho's performance. It was the first thing I said.

Unrelated: T Mass sucked terribly! The fans were about to rush the court and drag him off!

[spurster]

Let Rasho be Rasho!

:)

[Slomo]

So when Pop goes "Serbian" on the players at halftime, is that similar to going "Balkan" on them?

BTW, I still love Rasho, even though he didn't take it strong to the cup. He played excellent D. :hat
Let me explain something to you Solid.
You know how you say: big, bigger, biggest?
Well it's the same here: Angry, Balkan, Serbian :lol

Actually what's the correct way od saying it? Balkanese? Balkanian? Balky?

[bigzak25]

balky?

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rasho's weak shit needs to dissappear in the playoffs. he might as well start now. glad the shot went in. otherwise overall solid effort.

[T Park]

Yeah, stop making shots Rasho, its not "manly"


T Cup ride User??? Gotta break out the Sequ smack.


Hilarious.....

[kskonn]

I was at the game and if i recall someone(maybe Mitumbo) cam over to block the shot and rasho was going at the basket at an odd angle. I think that might have been why he through up the floater. With the angle he was at he did not have a lot of Momentum to go through someone if needed.

[Slomo]

What is wrong with that take? I said he played good, but he needs to finish those types of plays with authority. That barely went in and it could be the type of play that haunts the Spurs in the playoffs. There is no reason why he couldn't have stuffed it. Much better! In your other post you were refering to the Suns game which was not even close so your speculations were weak. Now you refer to the play-offs where things could be much closer. I still think that it's a bit of a stretch to blame any loss on a single play but at least now I understand your point.

[boutons]

Miller's flat-footed, soft put-in to tie (viciously swatted away by Amare) vs Suns @ARCO is a good example where softness cost Kings a chance to win in OT.

[wildbill2u]

Seems to be some difference of opinion about the reason for the shot taken. At least one poster says M'tumbe was coming for the block. Most say there was a wide open lane to dunk. Can both be right? I think so.

so in a fraction of a second, Rasho made a decision to float one high, and some folks don't like that. OK, but apparently he made 75% right decisions last night on the other three shots. I note that there were some other players who shot a worse percentage such as Devin and Bowen. What about their shot selection?

Can't we ever cut these guys, OUR TEAM, some slack and enjoy a win without trying to find some little thing to hit them with? I don't know of anyone who ever played a perfect game.

[SlovenianGuy]

Some stats from last game.

If you only look at performance of Ming and Rasho when they were on the floor together, you get some interesting numbers.

Yao Ming: 5 points (2/4 FG), 1 rebound, 0 blocks
Rasho: 8 points (4/4 FG), 3 rebounds, 3 blocks

[ShoogarBear]

Of course in our parts of the world the word Balkan is synonymous with cursing, betrayal and despicable behavior

Kind of like people from Louisiana, huh?

That's pretty funny. I bet very few (if anyone) in the US realized that.

Although we do know that you guys historically fight a hell of a lot. :)

http://www.pixelpress.org/bosnia/context/balkans-political.GIF

[Slo spurs fan]

Rasho was 4-4 and you still complain !?!?!?
Devin was 1-7 and I don't find any threads about that!
Fuck even Duncan can't dunk always.

[Useruser666]

I was at the game and if i recall someone(maybe Mitumbo) cam over to block the shot and rasho was going at the basket at an odd angle. I think that might have been why he through up the floater. With the angle he was at he did not have a lot of Momentum to go through someone if needed.

I was at the game too and from my angle no one was near him. He threw the floater up while the defender was coming from the side. It's not as though he was taking the floater like Parker does over a bigger player. When the crowd saw the pass going to him, and he being so wide open, everyone kinda "gasped". Like 5 people around me yelled, "DUNK THE BALL RASHO!!!"

Like I said, he had a good game. He played good defense on Yao. Especially good compared to T Mass who played terribly. I'm not asking for Rasho to showboat, I just don't want him to "Slowboat"!

The NBA.com box score is different from the stats displayed on the SBC jumbotron. Rasho had 5 boards listed the while NBA.com lists only 3.

Brown didn't play all that well. He did drive a lot and draw fouls. He also had 5 assists. He was 0-3 fro the arc and 3-5 from the line.

[Slomo]

Kind of like people from Louisiana, huh?

That's pretty funny. I bet very few (if anyone) in the US realized that.

Although we do know that you guys historically fight a hell of a lot. :)

http://www.pixelpress.org/bosnia/context/balkans-political.GIF That looks like a recent map and even it is wrong since Yugoslavia does not exist anymore. It just shows you how difficult it is to keep track.

The problem with the Balkans is that so many invaders, religions and armies have passed over it on their ways from europe to the middle east (and back) wreaking havoc and creating really deep seeded hatred among the local nations.
So when you mention that we fight a lot that's the least of our problems. A bigger problem is that many empires and military unions from outside the region chose to fight each other in the Balkans, adding to the already explosive mixture.

Slovenia has had the dubious privilege of have been occupied by more "civilised" invaders and by a lesser number of those. Because of a much less varied ethnic population our history is less burdened by ancient tribal rivalry. That is why many Slovenians feel we are not really part of the Balkan states.

Anyway it's a subject for really big history books and even if you read them all, chances are they would create more questions than answers.

[Slo spurs fan]

That looks like a recent map and even it is wrong since Yugoslavia does not exist anymore. It just shows you how difficult it is to keep track.

The problem with the Balkans is that so many invaders, religions and armies have passed over it on their ways from europe to the middle east (and back) wreaking havoc and creating really deep seeded hatred among the local nations.
So when you mention that we fight a lot that's the least of our problems. A bigger problem is that many empires and military unions from outside the region chose to fight each other in the Balkans, adding to the already explosive mixture.

Slovenia has had the dubious privilege of have been occupied by more "civilised" invaders and by a lesser number of those. Because of a much less varied ethnic population our history is less burdened by ancient tribal rivalry. That is why many Slovenians feel we are not really part of the Balkan states.

Anyway it's a subject for really big history books and even if you read them all, chances are they would create more questions than answers.


Can't say or explain better!

[Karl Mundt]

:wtf :flipoff :cuss Slovenia is NOT on Balkan!!!!!!! :nope

Fucking Slovakians :rolleyes

[ShoogarBear]

I think the map has "Yugoslavia" on it just for historical reference. The legend in the corner clearly states that it is the "former Yugoslavia".

I don't know if you guys know this, but we actually have a word in English:

balkanize: To divide (a region or territory) into small, often hostile units.

[Jimcs50]

BB,

Boozer would've slammed it home....

That is why we are trading for him today.

[Slomo]

I think the map has "Yugoslavia" on it just for historical reference. The legend in the corner clearly states that it is the "former Yugoslavia".

I don't know if you guys know this, but we actually have a word in English:

balkanize: To divide (a region or territory) into small, often hostile units. I did not know about balkanize - funny!

No, you are wrong. The way that the states are drawn there was a state called Yugoslavia composed of Serbia, Montenegro, Vojvodina and Kosovo. Before that together with the other states it used to be former Yugoslavia aka Socialist republic of Yugoslavia. Now (today) there is no state anywhere that bares the name of Yugoslavia - it has been replaced by Serbia & Montenegro. As I said it's not easy to keep up :)

[ShoogarBear]

You're right. I wasn't even paying attention to the map colors.

What we need is an up-to-date map, and then put pictures in each country their NBA players.

[kskonn]

I was at the game too and from my angle no one was near him. He threw the floater up while the defender was coming from the side. It's not as though he was taking the floater like Parker does over a bigger player. When the crowd saw the pass going to him, and he being so wide open, everyone kinda "gasped". Like 5 people around me yelled, "DUNK THE BALL RASHO!!!"

Like I said, he had a good game. He played good defense on Yao. Especially good compared to T Mass who played terribly. I'm not asking for Rasho to showboat, I just don't want him to "Slowboat"!

The NBA.com box score is different from the stats displayed on the SBC jumbotron. Rasho had 5 boards listed the while NBA.com lists only 3.

Brown didn't play all that well. He did drive a lot and draw fouls. He also had 5 assists. He was 0-3 fro the arc and 3-5 from the line.

Yea I could not tell where the defender was coming from, I was on the opposite baseline and about 30 roows from the floor. . My point was that maybe rasho thought the defender was going to get there in time and reacted. Although it may have been a bad reaction, atleast it went in.

[boutons]

Is Slovenia more Christian than the regions to east and south?

or is it also stuck with Christian-Moslem conflict?

[Useruser666]

Yea I could not tell where the defender was coming from, I was on the opposite baseline and about 30 roows from the floor. . My point was that maybe rasho thought the defender was going to get there in time and reacted. Although it may have been a bad reaction, atleast it went in.

I guess he could have thought that. If he goes up strong he has way more chance of drawing a foul at least. Yeah your angle wasn't so good on that play. I was more to the side and saw that you could have put Mutumbo with his arms stretched out in the space between Rasho and the defender.

[Shelly]

Everytime I read the title "Rasho's Floater", I am reminded of that pool scene from Caddyshack.

[ShoogarBear]

The point is that his mentality should have been to try to take it strong.

If he were ordinarily as agressive as EVERYONE (including and especially Pop) says he needs to be, no one would be saying anything about this particular play. Instead it has become emblematic of exactly why he gets criticized.

[kskonn]

The point is that his mentality should have been to try to take it strong.

If he were ordinarily as agressive as EVERYONE (including and especially Pop) says he needs to be, no one would be saying anything about this particular play. Instead it has become emblematic of exactly why he gets criticized.


very true.

[PM5K]

Yeah I hate Rasho, he needs to learn those floaters are only worth one point not two like you get for a dunk....

[Useruser666]

I vote we flush Rasho's floater and move on! :lol

[boutons]

one last point:

I bet any $$ that Rasho has never shot/practiced a floater in his life. The poor guy looks so flummoxed and uncoordinated out there that I bet how he took that shot surprised Rasho as much as anybody. I bet he wanted to shoot a baby-hook but couldn't figure out how to turn his shoulders in line with the shot. That was his "face-the-basket baby hook", not a floater. :)

[ChumpDumper]

Dude puts up the ball quick -- he's scurred of getting blocked because he knows he's slow.

[Slomo]

Is Slovenia more Christian than the regions to east and south?

or is it also stuck with Christian-Moslem conflict?
I do not know the exact figures but the religious map of Slovenia is roughly 75-80% Roman Catholics, 19-24% Protestants, 1% others.

Our Southern neighbour Croatia is a strong Roman Catholic bastion (well over 90%).

More to the south/east things get more complicated.