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clambake
12-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Sources: 5 Blackwater guards charged in shooting
By MATT APUZZO and LARA JAKES JORDAN – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Five Blackwater Worldwide security guards have been indicted and a sixth is in plea negotiations with prosecutors for a 2007 shooting in Baghdad.
Seventeen Iraqis were killed, and the shooting became an anti-American rallying cry for Iraqi insurgents.
People close to the case tell The Associated Press that a grand jury indicted five guards late Thursday. The indictment is sealed but prosecutors could make it public as early as Monday. All spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is sealed.
The exact charges were unclear, but prosecutors have been considering manslaughter and assault charges against the guards for weeks.
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Yonivore
12-05-2008, 09:00 PM
Sources: 5 Blackwater guards charged in shooting
By MATT APUZZO and LARA JAKES JORDAN – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Five Blackwater Worldwide security guards have been indicted and a sixth is in plea negotiations with prosecutors for a 2007 shooting in Baghdad.
Seventeen Iraqis were killed, and the shooting became an anti-American rallying cry for Iraqi insurgents.
What doesn't become an anti-American rallying cry for Iraqi insurgents?
People close to the case tell The Associated Press that a grand jury indicted five guards late Thursday. The indictment is sealed but prosecutors could make it public as early as Monday. All spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is sealed.
The exact charges were unclear, but prosecutors have been considering manslaughter and assault charges against the guards for weeks.
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Your thread title is misleading. They didn't indict a company, they've apparently indicted 5 individuals that are accused of a crime. I wonder when the last time was that al Qaeda indicted or tried one of their own for any of the crimes they've committed against U.S. or Iraqi citizens...
Another example of America's absolute moral authority in this war. We actually investigate and prosecute crimes committed by our people.
boutons_
12-05-2008, 09:21 PM
Come on, good ol' mercernary boys will be boys.
What's a few dead Iraqi civilians?
cool hand
12-05-2008, 09:59 PM
time to pay the piper, nazi fucks.
Yonivore
12-05-2008, 10:04 PM
time to pay the piper, nazi fucks.
I wonder, have you ever uttered that phrase in relationship to anything unfortunate happening to a terrorist?
Just curious.
Nbadan
12-05-2008, 11:41 PM
Another example of America's absolute moral authority in this war. We actually investigate and prosecute crimes committed by our people.
Yeah! Hell, at least we try em' ....
:lol
Nbadan
12-05-2008, 11:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a company like blackwater taking those terrorists ships for ransom in the Persian Gulf...time are leaner....See, what a lovely world Dubya has created..
clambake
12-06-2008, 01:53 PM
yoni thinks we should start killing innocent people now.
Bigzax
12-06-2008, 03:02 PM
i'm all for justice! if they were guilty, then good.
Nbadan
12-06-2008, 08:34 PM
i'm all for justice! if they were guilty, then good.
Yeah, try em!
.... :rolleyes
(Just always find them innocent, or they'll be problems)
Smackie Chan
12-06-2008, 08:59 PM
Good to see Yonnivore came out of his GOP cave he was hiding in after the Election.
You can't just shoot anyone you want to just because you think they did something. Even in the German war people had to be accounted for their crimes.
I wonder when the last time was that al Qaeda indicted or tried one of their own for any of the crimes they've committed against U.S. or Iraqi citizens...
Apples and oranges. They don't have to abide by any laws they don't even belong to the Geneva convention. Backwater is a cooperation that pays taxes and is under the laws of this country. It's like trying to take some native in Africa to court for killing a Mockingbird it just isn't going to happen.
on another note this very well may be better since we shouldn't have to worry about following the rules when we send a bunker buster missile and kill 50 or more al Qaeda men playing cards in the desert.
The bottom line American used to Atom bomb on the wrong county.
And the GOP wonders why the rest of the U.S..or the world for that matter hates them.
It's their stupid fucked up Hannity-Limbaugh logic.
Why do you choose to jump out of your little shithole now Yonni?
Killing INNOCENT civilians is wrong no matter which way you look at it...
chode_regulator
12-06-2008, 11:17 PM
time to pay the piper, nazi fucks.
have you ever placed your life in an iraqis hands? every trusted them to not kill you? ever trusted taht they provided good enough securitye that they werent going to get you killed in your lz?
im sick of all you faggot ass fuckers who have never even thought about fighting a war saying shit. you have no idea what its like over there other than what the media reports. and whetehr or not you are republican or decocart, you feel that makes you an expert. i considermyself netiher and base my opinions on teh iraq war based on my experiences over there.
you have no idea what is means to place someons life in your ahnds and have no idea what it means to have to make a life altering decision based on a split second decision. i feared for my life ona daily basis over there and on mulitple occasiions had to make a choice whether or not to fire. thank god i never had to and i would not wish that choice on anyone.
Desert Plains
12-07-2008, 04:25 AM
have you ever placed your life in an iraqis hands? every trusted them to not kill you? ever trusted taht they provided good enough securitye that they werent going to get you killed in your lz?
im sick of all you faggot ass fuckers who have never even thought about fighting a war saying shit. you have no idea what its like over there other than what the media reports. and whetehr or not you are republican or decocart, you feel that makes you an expert. i considermyself netiher and base my opinions on teh iraq war based on my experiences over there.
you have no idea what is means to place someons life in your ahnds and have no idea what it means to have to make a life altering decision based on a split second decision. i feared for my life ona daily basis over there and on mulitple occasiions had to make a choice whether or not to fire. thank god i never had to and i would not wish that choice on anyone.
I had to quote you before you sobered up and used spell check!
im sick of all you faggot ass fuckers who have never even thought about fighting a war saying shit.
What war? Americans are occupying another country that doesn't even want us there anymore get your facts straight.
cool hand
12-07-2008, 09:00 PM
have you ever placed your life in an iraqis hands? every trusted them to not kill you? ever trusted taht they provided good enough securitye that they werent going to get you killed in your lz?
im sick of all you faggot ass fuckers who have never even thought about fighting a war saying shit. you have no idea what its like over there other than what the media reports. and whetehr or not you are republican or decocart, you feel that makes you an expert. i considermyself netiher and base my opinions on teh iraq war based on my experiences over there.
you have no idea what is means to place someons life in your ahnds and have no idea what it means to have to make a life altering decision based on a split second decision. i feared for my life ona daily basis over there and on mulitple occasiions had to make a choice whether or not to fire. thank god i never had to and i would not wish that choice on anyone.
you are a dumbass
I was in
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During
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On one of these
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have you ever placed your life in an iraqis hands? every trusted them to not kill you? ever trusted taht they provided good enough securitye that they werent going to get you killed in your lz?
im sick of all you faggot ass fuckers who have never even thought about fighting a war saying shit. you have no idea what its like over there other than what the media reports. and whetehr or not you are republican or decocart, you feel that makes you an expert. i considermyself netiher and base my opinions on teh iraq war based on my experiences over there.
you have no idea what is means to place someons life in your ahnds and have no idea what it means to have to make a life altering decision based on a split second decision. i feared for my life ona daily basis over there and on mulitple occasiions had to make a choice whether or not to fire. thank god i never had to and i would not wish that choice on anyone.
We invaded a country that wanted nothing to do with us.
And if you reply with an ignorant 9/11 or terrorism claim, you won't see my replying back to your dumbass self.
chode_regulator
12-07-2008, 09:45 PM
:rolleyes
spell check is for douche bags
sook i sure as hell dont recall seeing them complaining when saddam got taken down.
i dont necesarily agree with the war but i dont pretend to be able to sit back adn jduge others actions without being there.
chode_regulator
12-07-2008, 09:48 PM
cool hand though you are the one i quoted directly i dont necesarily mean just you. im refering to the majority of posters in this forum.
desert plains please check this posts for speling an d punctuation. in fact i will mesage you on every post i make, and send you my password, so you can go in and edit after i post.
:rolleyes
spell check is for douche bags
sook i sure as hell dont recall seeing them complaining when saddam got taken down.
i dont necesarily agree with the war but i dont pretend to be able to sit back adn jduge others actions without being there.
How deep is your understanding of the problem my friend?
No sunni and the majority of the Shiites favored the takedown of Saddam, the fact of the matter is Saddam would have never allowed such a bloody civil war to take place. Close to a million iraqis have died due to this bloody conflict started by us...who the hell are you to decide what the Iraqi people want and don't want? You think they actually want a tank in their back yard?
The saddest part of it is that most of the casualties are just those caught in the crossfire victimized by the bombers cowardly enough to target schools and mosques.
I guarantee you that the world, and the Iraqi people would have prefferred Sadaam to stay in power. He was a dictator, and a brutal one at that too, but he knew how to take care of his country.
We are not the World Police nor should we act like it, its no surprise that our founding fathers emphasized Neutrality so much.
Anti.Hero
12-07-2008, 11:22 PM
have you ever placed your life in an iraqis hands? every trusted them to not kill you? ever trusted taht they provided good enough securitye that they werent going to get you killed in your lz?
im sick of all you faggot ass fuckers who have never even thought about fighting a war saying shit. you have no idea what its like over there other than what the media reports. and whetehr or not you are republican or decocart, you feel that makes you an expert. i considermyself netiher and base my opinions on teh iraq war based on my experiences over there.
you have no idea what is means to place someons life in your ahnds and have no idea what it means to have to make a life altering decision based on a split second decision. i feared for my life ona daily basis over there and on mulitple occasiions had to make a choice whether or not to fire. thank god i never had to and i would not wish that choice on anyone.
+1, a bunch of pussies on this board who are loving the comfortable soft American carefree life.
The world is all rainbows and lollipops.
clambake
12-08-2008, 01:31 PM
it takes real bravado to mow down women and children with automatic weapons.
Last Comic Standing
12-08-2008, 01:38 PM
+1, a bunch of pussies on this board who are loving the comfortable soft American carefree life.
The world is all rainbows and lollipops.
Right on dude! :tu
Who should we go after next? Lets go kick some Iran ass and then I want to move in on to Korea, after all, don't they have a dictator also?
Let's show these pussy's around here who's is the real bad ass!!
clambake
12-08-2008, 06:36 PM
there were 6. one has already pleaded guilty to manslaughter and voluntary manslaughter. he cut a deal to testify against the others.
the reason they turned themselves in in utah is because they hope to get a change of venue to salt lake city. only one of them is from utah and that probably won't fly. prosecutors are planning to try them as a group.
chode_regulator
12-08-2008, 07:41 PM
We are not the World Police nor should we act like it, its no surprise that our founding fathers emphasized Neutrality so much.
ehhh....maynbe you should take some US history. and i dont mean teh kind just taught in middle school where we learn about the constitution and george washington. america has been policing the world for pretty much its whole existence. we have been in a conflict of one type or another for the overwhelming majority of the existence of the US.
and ohj yeah, cool hand without knowing you, i dont know your exact experiences you had over there. but i was pretty mcuh under the impression taht that war was fought completely different with a completely different objective. also i dont believe yall were forced to collaborate with iraqis on missions. maybe you have, again i am admitting my ignorance on that subject. but teh way i see it, comparing the gulf war to this one is like apples to oranges.
and desert plains, in taht case lets go back and change all the history books and monuments. bc vietnam sure as hel lwasnt a "war" neither was korea. but ask anyone who was there and im sure theyll disagree.
either way im going to stpo posting in this thread and this forum probably as well. it seems all anyone here does, myself included, is run around in circles wtihought actually wanting to listen to what the other side says. haha not that im sure anyone cares. :rollin
DarkReign
12-08-2008, 07:47 PM
you are a dumbass
I was in
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On one of these
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Whoops....
Aggie Hoopsfan
12-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Come on, good ol' mercernary boys will be boys.
What's a few dead Iraqi civilians?
If only you had this much hate for the guys who perpetrated 9/11...
Aggie Hoopsfan
12-08-2008, 08:39 PM
And the GOP wonders why the rest of the U.S..or the world for that matter hates them.
It's their stupid fucked up Hannity-Limbaugh logic.
Why do you choose to jump out of your little shithole now Yonni?
Killing INNOCENT civilians is wrong no matter which way you look at it...
Funny, the rest of the world didn't get pissed at the terrorists on 9/11....
Aggie Hoopsfan
12-08-2008, 08:39 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a company like blackwater taking those terrorists ships for ransom in the Persian Gulf...time are leaner....See, what a lovely world Dubya has created..
:lmao
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I was made for lovin
12-10-2008, 02:15 AM
Bush is Dead.
SnakeBoy
12-10-2008, 03:10 AM
We are not the World Police nor should we act like it, its no surprise that our founding fathers emphasized Neutrality so much.
In the 1930's Hitler placed an american in charge of the American Bund Party (Nazi party). This guy had aspirations of becoming the american fuhrer and began attracting lot's of media attention. This pissed off Hitler because he wanted the party to remain obscure and friendly to help ensure america would stay out of the way when he began his campaign of world domination, which we did.
Do yourself a favor and go rent the PBS series The War. (http://www.pbs.org/thewar/) It might change your perspective on whether or not the US should continue to be the world police or go back to an isolationist policy.
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