Mitch Needs to call a NBA GM tonight & trade Odom

[Kobe™]

I'm sick of this on-going Odom experiment, that obviously isn't going to work.
It's not because of the 16-2 record, it's just he can't even produce when he's facing scrubs out there.


Starting pg>>Backup PF.


Get his ass outta here.
I had sympathy for him going into the season, but now he's just taking AB's minutes.

Lets get some trades for this punk; I know a lot of teams who could use a 6'10 P-F, w/ expiring contract right now.
/end rant

*Waits*


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[Kobe™]

LO averaging 3.8 in the last 6,with a horrible 30% shooting,only 5 boards,2 assists
14 Million dollars my a*s.

[Bob Lanier]

Odom for Boozer would benefit both teams.

Hell, the Lakers could even through in one of their white guys to sweeten the deal.

[Bob Lanier]

Odom for Marbury?

Odom for Shaq, again?

Odom for McGrady would be a very interesting trade. The Rockets could dump that piece of shit and get the power forward they've needed next to Yao, along with perhaps a shooter or two, and the Lakers get a backup for Kobe who won't completely blow leads.

[Bob Lanier]

Odom for Michael Redd?

Scott Skiles could use another versatile 4-man to sit behind Malik Allen.

[Allanon]

Odom didn't play well on this road trip but prior to that he was having a great season.

Too hasty, Lakers will get back home, practice some more and Odom will be balling again.

[Kobe™]

I swear one more boneheaded play from Lamar and I will croak.

[A Bomb]

I swear one more boneheaded play from Lamar and I will croak.


HOw about we trade Kobe for missing 5 weak jumpers in a row? He also missed that last jumper against Indiana that would of putus up by 3. LO's been great so far, he's not the problem.

[Kobe™]

LO averaging 3.8 in the last 6,with a horrible 30% shooting,only 5 boards,2 assists
14 Million dollars my a*s.

[Def Rowe]

HOw about we trade Kobe for missing 5 weak jumpers in a row? He also missed that last jumper against Indiana that would of putus up by 3. LO's been great so far, he's not the problem.

Yes, we should trade Kobe. :downspin:

[Obstructed_View]

Odom for Marc Gasol and OJ Mayo.

[A Bomb]

Odom for Marc Gasol and OJ Mayo.


nah dude salaries don't match they need to throw in Gay.:lol

[balli]

Odom for Boozer would benefit both teams.

Hell, the Lakers could even through in one of their white guys to sweeten the deal.

I don't know how Boozer fits into LA's plans, but I'd do anything to get him out of Utah.

[Tmac&Luther]

and get the power forward they've needed next to Yao.

:lol

Scolandry is averaging 20 points and 12 rebounds per game............no fucking thank you.

If we were to trade McGrady it would be for something other than the PF position which is the deepest on the team.

P.S.

It's extremely annoying listening to Laker fans bitch about how crappy one of their bench players is..........you're 16-2....STFU. :toast

[DrHouse]

Odom/Farmar for Hinrich/Gooden. Here's why.

I don't think Farmar is the future PG of the Lakers. His game is more suited for an uptempo offense, not the slower more methodical triangle. Right now it's not an issue because he plays with the bench mob but if you insert him into the starting 5 he struggles. His defense is also very poor for someone with his phyiscal talents, he's almost as bad as Fisher.

The reasons for getting rid of Odom's pathetic ass are obvious. Inconsistent, mentally weak, not a good fit, and most importantly he takes Bynum out of the game in the 4th when we need him most.

Hinrich is the perfect tri PG. Shoots pretty well, good defender, makes heady plays out there. He would thrive playing next to Kobe in a shooter's offense. I think he'd do well with an Ariza type role, doesn't start the game but ends up closing and playing more mintues than Fisher. Gooden is a solid backup PF. Plays hard, shoots OK, just a decent guy to have on your team.

CHI does this because Rose is the future. Hinrich has no role on the team and is paid too much. LO fills a void they've had for a long time. He'd do well with Rose and add a lot of length to their front court. Farmar is a good backup PG.

[A Bomb]

Odom/Farmar for Hinrich/Gooden. Here's why.

I don't think Farmar is the future PG of the Lakers. His game is more suited for an uptempo offense, not the slower more methodical triangle. Right now it's not an issue because he plays with the bench mob but if you insert him into the starting 5 he struggles. His defense is also very poor for someone with his phyiscal talents, he's almost as bad as Fisher.

The reasons for getting rid of Odom's pathetic ass are obvious. Inconsistent, mentally weak, not a good fit, and most importantly he takes Bynum out of the game in the 4th when we need him most.

Hinrich is the perfect tri PG. Shoots pretty well, good defender, makes heady plays out there. He would thrive playing next to Kobe in a shooter's offense. I think he'd do well with an Ariza type role, doesn't start the game but ends up closing and playing more mintues than Fisher. Gooden is a solid backup PF. Plays hard, shoots OK, just a decent guy to have on your team.

CHI does this because Rose is the future. Hinrich has no role on the team and is paid too much. LO fills a void they've had for a long time. He'd do well with Rose and add a lot of length to their front court. Farmar is a good backup PG.

Heinrich isn't that good anymore, and he's a cap killer, gooden doesn't improve our defense much. Plus those 2 needs more shots than Lo or Farmar needs and thats one thing that can't happen.

[Allanon]

Odom/Farmar for Hinrich/Gooden.

CHI does this because Rose is the future. Hinrich has no role on the team and is paid too much. LO fills a void they've had for a long time. He'd do well with Rose and add a lot of length to their front court. Farmar is a good backup PG.

Come now Dr House, Odom and Farmar have been great prior to this road trip. Don't give up on them yet. Farmar doesn't seem to be the future PG, but he's still young and pretty good as a point guard. Farmar's only problem is his defense and that can be corrected.

Hinrich is not the future, he's not exciting and he can't dunk.

Drew Gooden has even less heart, even less skill and even less drive than Odom.

Both of them are downgrades from Farmar/Odom.

And no Boozer either. I've watched a good number of Utah games and Boozer is very frustrating. Boozer has good stats but he's a non-impact player.

Odom doesn't have good stats but he has alot of impact, sometimes bad but mostly good.

[Bob Lanier]

Hinrich is no better and no worse than he's ever been (when he's actually playing, as opposed to being injured). He's a fabulous defender, a clutch shot maker, and is willing to defer. He'd be perfect in the triangle, whether he's "exciting" and dunks or not.

Gooden's stupid and probably worse defensively than Odom, but he's a better rebounder and doesn't play like a wing.

That would be a very good deal for L.A., though I don't know why Chicago would make it. Although it would create some rotation issues with what to do with Fisher's backup's minutes until Hinrich returned to aciton.

[baseline bum]

Wait, so Odom's not a top 25 player?

[Bob Lanier]

What does L.A. get out of it? Bass is a rich man's Luke Walton and Stackhouse is a loser, a cancer, and nothing but a chucker at this point in his career.

[A Bomb]

Odom for Stack and Bass. Cuban probably wouldnt do this deal but he should. Both teams would get what they need.

From everyone of your posts, it's obvious you are not a Lakers fan, so why don't you just come out of your closet.

[DrHouse]

Hinrich is no better and no worse than he's ever been (when he's actually playing, as opposed to being injured). He's a fabulous defender, a clutch shot maker, and is willing to defer. He'd be perfect in the triangle, whether he's "exciting" and dunks or not.

Gooden's stupid and probably worse defensively than Odom, but he's a better rebounder and doesn't play like a wing.

That would be a very good deal for L.A., though I don't know why Chicago would make it. Although it would create some rotation issues with what to do with Fisher's backup's minutes until Hinrich returned to aciton.

Are you kidding me? CHI makes out like bandits. Odom is a giant expiring, they get rid of Hinrich who they desperately want to dump, and they get a quality backup PG in Farmar that can run their uptempo game. They win out big time IMHO.

[DrHouse]

Come now Dr House, Odom and Farmar have been great prior to this road trip. Don't give up on them yet. Farmar doesn't seem to be the future PG, but he's still young and pretty good as a point guard. Farmar's only problem is his defense and that can be corrected.

Hinrich is not the future, he's not exciting and he can't dunk.

Drew Gooden has even less heart, even less skill and even less drive than Odom.

Both of them are downgrades from Farmar/Odom.

And no Boozer either. I've watched a good number of Utah games and Boozer is very frustrating. Boozer has good stats but he's a non-impact player.

Odom doesn't have good stats but he has alot of impact, sometimes bad but mostly good.

Wait your knock on Hinrich is that he can't dunk??? OK now I know not to take any of your posts seriously anymore.

LO is what he is, an inconsistent and mentally weak player who makes bone-headed plays all the time. He can't be relied upon in the clutch IMHO and does not deserve to take away minutes from Bynum. If he cannot be happy with his role as a bench player then he needs to be traded. No more appeasing Odom, either accept that you aren't good enough to start on this team or get the fuck out of here.

[Obstructed_View]

Wait, so Odom's not a top 25 player?

He has to be because he would be the best player on 20 other teams.

[mystargtr34]

Odom for Boozer would benefit both teams.

Hell, the Lakers could even through in one of their white guys to sweeten the deal.

:lol the Lakers might be able to get Deron for Walton and Vlad.

[Indazone]

14 million and he sucks? Sorry guys, he's gonna be a Laker for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggg time.

[ShoogarBear]

Odom for Marc Gasol and OJ Mayo.

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2007/04/18/jerry_west_2.jpg

[Kobe™]

Lamar Odom is an anagram for Doom Alarm



rofl!

[Allanon]

Wait your knock on Hinrich is that he can't dunk???

You under-rate the power of a dunk. Dunks get the team motivated and fires up the crowd. Especially when it's from a munchkin like Farmar.



OK now I know not to take any of your posts seriously anymore.

Fine by me, act like a little bitch when somebody disagrees with you.



LO is what he is, an inconsistent and mentally weak player who makes bone-headed plays all the time. He can't be relied upon in the clutch IMHO and does not deserve to take away minutes from Bynum. If he cannot be happy with his role as a bench player then he needs to be traded. No more appeasing Odom, either accept that you aren't good enough to start on this team or get the fuck out of here.

I don't agree. If he can't be relied upon, why is he playing 4th quarter minutes? Phil relies upon him because he usually delivers. And as far as I know, Odom's ok with his role leading the bench.

And as I said, Odom's been GREAT prior to this road trip. He ain't going to get traded and doesn't deserve to get traded for 2 bad games and 1 mediocre game.

As for taking away minutes from Bynum, it's because of Phil, not Odom. Phil, for whatever reason, doesn't want to play Bynum in crunch-time. He's the coach and I assume he knows what he's doing.

[pauls931]

We'll trade Steve Kerr for him.

[Spur-Addict]

Wait, so Odom's not a top 25 player?

:lol


Wait your knock on Hinrich is that he can't dunk???

Oh you didn't know? Farmar can dunk, therefore Hinrich>Farmar. Nevermind Kaptain Kirk's defense and ability to stretch the court and run the show.


http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/images/2007/04/18/jerry_west_2.jpg

:vomit:

[DrHouse]

I wish the Laker's had the Spurs personnel sometimes. These guys know their god damn role, don't whine about minutes, and give you consistent effort every night. That's what it takes to win championships.

For all the talent this Laker team has, I'm still not sold that they are ready to win it all. It might take another year of losing for them to finally understand the dedication, sacrifice, and consistent effort that it takes to win a title.

Allanon, nothing personal. Odom is what he is in my eyes, an inconsistent player who does not give maximal effort every night. Kobe may have an off shooting night, but he goes out there and competes 100% every game and that's why people respect. Odom does not share that love because his own coach is questioning his effort 18 games into the season. Do you know how pathetic that is, to have your own coach questioning your effort 18 games in when you're on a championship team? I would be flat out embarrassed.

[Anti.Hero]

I'm going to be sick if Lakers get a quality player by trading Odom.


Enough Lakers.

[Anti.Hero]

I wish the Laker's had the Spurs personnel sometimes. These guys know their god damn role, don't whine about minutes, and give you consistent effort every night. That's what it takes to win championships.

Seriously man, we don't have any of that shit (bitching about minutes, talking back to coaches, crying to media) here!

[Kobe™]

Seriously this Laker team is easily the best on paper.
Mentality wise, that's another thing.

[Bob Lanier]

Easily?

Better than the Celtics? The Cavs? The Pistons? The Spurs? The Suns? The Mavs? The Rockets?

I don't think so.

They are a well-balanced and complete team, but other than Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson they are still not consistently dominant. Fisher, Farmar, Radmanovic, and Vujacic are crapshoots, Ariza's much (and very recently) improved, Odom's a flake, Gasol's easily intimidated, and Bynum is a work in progress.

[DrHouse]

Easily?

Better than the Celtics? The Cavs? The Pistons? The Spurs? The Suns? The Mavs? The Rockets?

I don't think so.

They are a well-balanced and complete team, but other than Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson they are still not consistently dominant. Fisher, Farmar, Radmanovic, and Vujacic are crapshoots, Ariza's much (and very recently) improved, Odom's a flake, Gasol's easily intimidated, and Bynum is a work in progress.

And despite all of that they are 16-2, and should be 17-1 had it not been for Phil Jackson and his idiotic 4th quarter rotations that he introduced in the 3 game road trip (i.e. putting Bynum on the bench during the last 7 minutes of each game). I don't think i ever envisioned myself complaining about a 16-2 start.

The problem with evaluating the Lakers right now is that Phil Jackson is still evaluating this team. He's throwing different guys into the fire each night to see who responds and who he can trust. If this means he loses a few games then so be it. He doesn't really care. His approach to the regular season is very different from most NBA coaches.

[Kobe™]

Easily?

Better than the Celtics? The Cavs? The Pistons? The Spurs? The Suns? The Mavs? The Rockets?

I don't think so.

They are a well-balanced and complete team, but other than Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson they are still not consistently dominant. Fisher, Farmar, Radmanovic, and Vujacic are crapshoots, Ariza's much (and very recently) improved, Odom's a flake, Gasol's easily intimidated, and Bynum is a work in progress.

Before I get into discussion about this nonsense; look at the effiency rating, THREE of our players in the top 30.
http://i33.tinypic.com/24xl3b9.png
Now to your quote.
The Suns?
Rofl they have no depth what so ever, your comparing the suns roster to L.A.? wow
Celtics? Losing Posey hurt a lot, Lakers roster are much more talented; although Boston has a killer instinct L.A. has yet to embed in there minds.
Pistons? No. Lakers starting lineup is so filled, they have to put Lamar Odom arguably a top 10 PF when he's playing to his potential on the bench.

Rockets? Yeah, two starters who haven't even past the 1st rd + a headache of a player whose already giving the fans fits with his horrible shot selection.

Cavs?
Let's see, if Lamar would actually get his head on the game, our 4th best player would be their 2nd best player.
Any more?
Like I said Lakers have the best team on paper - anyone with a sane mind can see that; that doesn't mean they're the best NBA team right now, talent can get you so far.

[balli]

The Lakers are the only team that can bring in solid contributing backups at every position.

Utah Jazz

PG: Knight, Price
SG:Korver
SF: AK, Harpring
PF: Millsap
C: Koufos- who is better than Mihm anyways

[Bob Lanier]

What cold weather's that?

[Def Rowe]

Yeah, that Bob clown is completely out of touch. Must be the cold weather. The Lakers are the only team that can bring in solid contributing backups at every position. Fully healthy, no one beats the Lakers in a 7 game series.

I don't know about that. The way the Lakers are playing now... They couldn't beat the Celts or the Cavs. Their defense has gone from very good to a fuckin joke in the last 2 weeks. We've just morphed into the 06/07 PHX Suns.

[Kobe™]

Rename thread to Trade Point guard?

Nah ODOM needs ta GO!

[SmellyFeet]

Nice game tonight odumb. Now fucken hard is it to hold a fucken rebound?
you dumb piece of shit, you should be selling oranges on street corners, not playing in the nba, you ugly fuck.

[Jeremy]

I would trade Diaw for him in an instant.

[Kobe™]

Bump .

[Kobe™]

Bump .

[024]

if i were lamar odom i would want a trade too. with the development of ariza at SF and gasol moviing to PF, odom is not going to get a lot of playing time. this is a contract year for him and he's averaging career lows in a lot of categories including minutes played. if i were him, i would be kind of pissed because lakers aren't showing off his talent for future contracts. it's clear he no longer fits with the system and should be moved to another team where he starts. he's just rotting away on the lakers.

[SmellyFeet]

From the laker forum, someone summarizes odumb's game moves:



1. The Odometer pass - Typically far down the court - many times two handed and always far beyond the reach of the intended Laker.

2. The Ode to Long Striding - Typically a drive the center of the Lane with no lateral movement and the Super Long Odom strides that give the defender plenty of time to set up in the Lane and draw a charging foul.

3. The O What the Hell was that - Usually a crazy attempt at something like a pass in heavy traffic where you are left astonished that someone would even try it.

4. The O lets give it back - Always happens after a nice defensive stand and somehow someway results in our hero giving the ball back to the opponent right after a tough defensive stand

5. The O NO - This is always a 15-20 Ft Jumper shot early in the shot clock with no attempt whatsoever to play inside out. A clanging jumper that always results in a long rebound and a quick fastbreak bucket for the other team

6. Finally the O'Dumb- These don't happen every night but when he pulls these off they definitely take the cake. For the O'Dumb Oscar this year I nominate the pass to Sasha while he was standing in front of the bench in his warmups.

[angelbelow]

give him a break, hes just high.

[Spur-Addict]

Odom/Farmar for Hinrich/Gooden. Here's why.

I don't think Farmar is the future PG of the Lakers. His game is more suited for an uptempo offense, not the slower more methodical triangle. Right now it's not an issue because he plays with the bench mob but if you insert him into the starting 5 he struggles. His defense is also very poor for someone with his phyiscal talents, he's almost as bad as Fisher.

The reasons for getting rid of Odom's pathetic ass are obvious. Inconsistent, mentally weak, not a good fit, and most importantly he takes Bynum out of the game in the 4th when we need him most.

Hinrich is the perfect tri PG. Shoots pretty well, good defender, makes heady plays out there. He would thrive playing next to Kobe in a shooter's offense. I think he'd do well with an Ariza type role, doesn't start the game but ends up closing and playing more mintues than Fisher. Gooden is a solid backup PF. Plays hard, shoots OK, just a decent guy to have on your team.

CHI does this because Rose is the future. Hinrich has no role on the team and is paid too much. LO fills a void they've had for a long time. He'd do well with Rose and add a lot of length to their front court. Farmar is a good backup PG.


Are you kidding me? CHI makes out like bandits. Odom is a giant expiring, they get rid of Hinrich who they desperately want to dump, and they get a quality backup PG in Farmar that can run their uptempo game. They win out big time IMHO.


What we are forgetting here is Luol Deng. Deng is already their high paid swing man whom i'd rather have over Odom any day of the week.

Odom can't add interior defense or much of a consistent will to score inside so he can't help there. Nor can he help on the perimeter because he'd take Deng's minutes.

Imagine how soft a Noah, Odom frontcourt would be. Or a Odom Thomas frontcourt.

Aside from that, they have Nocioni as well. He isn't getting minutes as it is so they'd be jammed at the three. Plus Nocioni does alot of the same things Odom does except he's tougher. Sure odom is more athletic, but come on, i'd take Noc over Odom despite his obvious talent especially seeing as how you have Deng.

The Bulls need a two guard and a legit big, neither of those are Lamar Odom. If Ben Gordon is serving as the two, they need a big post scoring presence more so then a two as of now. You can't punch the ball into Odom eleven times a game, so this makes no sense for me.

Oh yeah, and Farmar? :lol

I'd much rather sit on a disgruntled Hinrich who wants to play hard and showcase himself to potential suitors. :lol

If I were the Bulls i'd be looking into Kaman.