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mfanatic
12-07-2008, 05:08 PM
Making trades, let's steal Kapona from them, wow what a team would we be!

Discuss..

xtremesteven33
12-07-2008, 05:09 PM
kapono??

exstatic
12-07-2008, 05:09 PM
Kapono sucks. There's a reason they're dumping...er, shopping him.

Allanon
12-07-2008, 05:14 PM
Kapono would make this team too much of a jump shooting team. Right now, they shoot too many jumpshots for my liking.

The Raptors Jamario Moon, gets to the hole a bit more and costs less. Joey Graham would be great too.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Raptors would be trading partners with the Spurs. Both teams are trying to find some more size.

DPG21920
12-07-2008, 05:36 PM
I know TimVP hates him, but I think Bargnani would help us. There is no way they are letting him go and giving up on him now with how much they have invested in him, but...Moon would be nice, but I do not see why they would give him up.

Texas_Ranger
12-07-2008, 05:46 PM
I hate Bargnani too!..But Moon would be a good player to have on our team.

thekingrobert
12-07-2008, 06:01 PM
Moon, Bargnani, Kapano, whomever we have no assest

DPG21920
12-07-2008, 06:03 PM
We have absolutely no need for Kapono. I would not trade Finley for him.

Darkwaters
12-07-2008, 06:17 PM
No to Kapono.
No to Bargnani.
Yes to Moon.

Can you say long 3?

Dr. Gonzo
12-07-2008, 06:22 PM
Vaughn and Bonner + picks for Bosh

Make it happen.

MaNuMaNiAc
12-07-2008, 06:52 PM
I know TimVP hates him, but I think Bargnani would help us. There is no way they are letting him go and giving up on him now with how much they have invested in him, but...Moon would be nice, but I do not see why they would give him up.

:lol what's this have to do with anything?

Manufan909
12-07-2008, 06:56 PM
Timvp is all-knowing, duh.

I heard he once accidently put up his game thoughts an hour before tip-off.:wow

angelbelow
12-07-2008, 07:01 PM
moon would be nice but he needs to learn how to play real defense. thats right, all moon does it gamble and if you talk to raptor fans, they'll tell you that theyve never seen moon take charge.

byrdman31
12-07-2008, 07:22 PM
i think were doing alright, were just getting the chemistry flowing.. this is a championship team

DPG21920
12-07-2008, 07:23 PM
:lol what's this have to do with anything?

It is a thing between him and I. He hates Bustnani, I think he has potential to be a solid player and we go back and forth about it.

T Park
12-07-2008, 07:40 PM
Suckani sucks ass . The only ones worth trading for are Moon and O'Neal

Darkwaters
12-07-2008, 07:54 PM
moon would be nice but he needs to learn how to play real defense. thats right, all moon does it gamble and if you talk to raptor fans, they'll tell you that theyve never seen moon take charge.

Yea, our current long small forward is totally better.

lefty
12-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Booooosh

Oh wait...at least, I can dream

peskypesky
12-07-2008, 08:09 PM
No to Kapono.
No to Moon.

Maybe to Bargnani and O'Neal. We need a big man.

But what would we give them that they could want?

ShoogarBear
12-07-2008, 08:13 PM
Timvp is all-knowing, duh.

I heard he once accidently put up his game thoughts an hour before tip-off.:wow

:rollin

superbigtime
12-07-2008, 08:16 PM
Now that Rasho has gone there is nothing attainable the Raps have that I would like the Spurs to get. Kapono? Nono.

peskypesky
12-07-2008, 09:00 PM
Now that Rasho has gone there is nothing attainable the Raps have that I would like the Spurs to get. Kapono? Nono.

You don't think Jermaine would help when facing Phoenix, LA and Boston?

ploto
12-07-2008, 09:07 PM
You don't think Jermaine would help when facing Phoenix, LA and Boston?

Spurs are not trading for $22M Jermaine.

Mr.Bottomtooth
12-07-2008, 09:24 PM
The only Raptor that we have a remote possibility of getting is Moon. But I doubt the Spurs feel like tinkering with the 2/3 lineup. I'm sure all what they're looking for right now is a big.

ata
12-08-2008, 02:52 AM
No to Kapono - overpaid, if nothing else
No to Bustnani - he plays 5-6 games per season as an all-star, 10-15 games solid and sucks the rest
Yes to Moon - but, do we really need his type of player
No to O'Neal - I doubt he is able to stay healthy

angelbelow
12-08-2008, 03:21 AM
Yea, our current long small forward is totally better.

thats why i said that i WOULD take him.

HarlemHeat37
12-08-2008, 04:06 AM
some misconceptions here..I lived in Canada for a few years, so I still follow the Raptors and watch most of their games..

Bargnani has been a solid player this year..he still has consistency issues, but he's now a solid defender and is an improving rebounder..not worth a #1 pick, but a solid player that is showing a lot of signs..

Jamario Moon is a terrible player..he's not a good defender in any way other than getting occasional steals and blocks..he only shoots well from the corners, he doesn't use his athleticism to his advantage at all, meaning he RARELY drives to the basket..he doesn't help us..

the only player on the Raptors roster that would fit on our team and help us win now would be Joey Graham..the Raptors are showcasing him right now and he's much improved from last year..the problem would be finding somebody to send them, as we don't really have anybody that fits their current needs, which is a consistent wing player..we aren't going to trade Manu or Mason, so there isn't another option..

WildcardManu
12-08-2008, 05:00 AM
Duncan/O'neal frontcourt would be killer if JO would stay healthy for at least a full season

mrspurs
12-08-2008, 09:14 AM
If they wont part ways with Bosh or Oneal. Then they have noone of interest. I personally dont want another Euro player headed off to play in some championship game after our season has ended. It doesnt help the Spurs one bit. And the world knows Im right. If anything, it hurts our ball club. And we're living proof of it.

K-State Spur
12-08-2008, 11:01 AM
Yea, our current long small forward is totally better.

The need for a long 3 is vastly overstated on this board.

When the main competition was Dallas/PHX, we needed hybrid 3/4 that could used in a small ball line-up/match up with Dirk/Amare/etc.

With the Lakers/Hornets/Jazz being bigger threats, the need is more legitimate beef along the front line.

On the wings, we're looking at Manu & Mason (or Finley or Bowen) being on the floor at the end of games as is. Yeah, all things being equal you'd rather have a 6'9 guy at the SF than a 6'6 guy - but for the Spurs purposes, it really doesn't matter that much.

There's only a handful of big wings in the league that can really make you pay for not having a guy like Ariza to match-up with them - and even then Bowen can usually hold his own against most of them.

Jahivah
12-08-2008, 04:22 PM
do they have any good bigs worth looking at? Jermaine Oneal is done and I know that BOsh is off the table but is there anyone else?

manufor3
12-08-2008, 04:43 PM
kapono, make it happen

angelbelow
12-08-2008, 05:38 PM
before people jump on kapono know what kind of contract he has. i cant say with 100% certainty but i think its 4 more years MLE status. when the raptors first gave him that contract i remember struggling to comprehend how overpaid he was.

ploto
12-08-2008, 06:32 PM
Kapono has 2 more years after the current season

HarlemHeat37
12-08-2008, 07:51 PM
Kapono is useless on our team..we don't need more shooters..he can't create for himself effectively and he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA..

Darkwaters
12-08-2008, 11:22 PM
The need for a long 3 is vastly overstated on this board.

When the main competition was Dallas/PHX, we needed hybrid 3/4 that could used in a small ball line-up/match up with Dirk/Amare/etc.

With the Lakers/Hornets/Jazz being bigger threats, the need is more legitimate beef along the front line.

On the wings, we're looking at Manu & Mason (or Finley or Bowen) being on the floor at the end of games as is. Yeah, all things being equal you'd rather have a 6'9 guy at the SF than a 6'6 guy - but for the Spurs purposes, it really doesn't matter that much.

There's only a handful of big wings in the league that can really make you pay for not having a guy like Ariza to match-up with them - and even then Bowen can usually hold his own against most of them.

I never said I thought that a long SF was our biggest need. I just said that he was the one guy I wouldn't mind having. Hes on a cheap contract and fills a role that we've long been looking to fill. I realize that a long 3 was more important when Dirk and Amare were the big problems. But Odom is still to be considered at least a slight issue.

I do agree, though, that another big is our main need.

lefty
12-08-2008, 11:49 PM
Kapono is useless on our team..we don't need more shooters..he can't create for himself effectively and he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA..

I agree.

But Sam Mitchell thought otherwise

tav1
12-08-2008, 11:55 PM
The Spurs are playing well enough that I doubt any of these trades would help them. Bargnani is playing better this year, so maybe a Thomas for Bargnani trade would help, but I doubt it. I'm not sure what the motivation would be for either side, unless the Spurs thought Andrea could play SF.

I say pass on the Raptors.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Spurs go in an aim small, miss small trade for Vaughn, leaving the rest of the roster in tact. For example, Marcin Gortat intrigues me. He's buried on Orlando's bench, but if swapped for Vaughn he could play for the Toros in a trial run. I've only seen a little of Gortat, but he looked liked a rugged rebounder and natural shot blocker when I watched. I'm not sure why he doesn't get more burn. Gotta be a reason.

K-State Spur
12-09-2008, 12:03 AM
I never said I thought that a long SF was our biggest need. I just said that he was the one guy I wouldn't mind having. Hes on a cheap contract and fills a role that we've long been looking to fill. I realize that a long 3 was more important when Dirk and Amare were the big problems. But Odom is still to be considered at least a slight issue.

I do agree, though, that another big is our main need.

I hear you. It wasn't so much a direct response to you as it was to a consistent belief on this board. It's like we've been obsessed with the long 3 for so long - we've never stopped to ask ourselves, "why?"

exstatic
12-09-2008, 12:16 AM
Duncan/O'neal frontcourt would be killer if JO would stay healthy for at least a full season

The only way to get 60 games Jermaine is to trade either Duncan or Manu AND Tony. Otherwise, his bloated contract would probably require the rest of the roster to be shipped out. No shit.