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Jmehra1
12-08-2008, 04:25 AM
Is Pop playing Bonner so much to strengthen his trade value a little down the road? It seems like this team doesnt need a jump shooting big man, as much as they need a workhorse down low to help out timmy.

ChumpDumper
12-08-2008, 04:27 AM
I'm pretty sure he's playing him because he's not sucking. A jump shooting big is awesome for this team. I just hope the other big men stop sucking too.

HarlemHeat37
12-08-2008, 04:42 AM
if Bonnner keeps playing like this, I don't want him to go anywhere..

a workhorse down low is good and all..but if Bonner keeps shooting like this(which he can), he brings out other team's big men out of the paint to guard him..also, he's been much more aggressive on the boards and defensively..

raspsa
12-08-2008, 05:09 AM
Another big body in the post is great but the post is where Duncan operates best and what is really needed is for Bonner to draw out his defender so he can't double Timmy.

angelbelow
12-08-2008, 05:21 AM
as long as he stays aggressive his trade value could increase since it expires in 2010.

its great that hes playing this well but im not convinced he can sustain it. i hope he either proves me wrong or another team bites on a bonner trade and we come out with a steal.

raspsa
12-08-2008, 05:33 AM
If you think about it, all succcessful players must have had a breakout season and maybe, just maybe, this is Bonner's year to shine.. we should all be rooting for him to succeed.:toast

RuffnReadyOzStyle
12-08-2008, 05:35 AM
It actually looks like the lightswitch has gone on for Bonner. He has lost is fear, is playing hard at both ends, and really fitting the team well.

I'm pretty sure Mahinmi will get first shot to be the workhorse down low that we need, maybe starting in January.

I'll also say that KT has picked up his game lately, which is a welcome improvement - he's htting the boards an his jumper, and rotating better on D... now it would be nice if Fab could find his game again.

024
12-08-2008, 05:53 AM
bonner has been playing well but i think he still lacks the mental toughness to compete in the playoffs. spurs should hold off until around the all star break just in case bonner decides to have hedo turkoglu moment, going from mediocre to great. he's definitely earned a third/fourth chance to prove himself but i'm still doubtful he will emerge in the spurs' playoff rotation. bonner hasn't been playing well enough to demonstrate that he's clutch.

i think he'll be a great addition to a playoff team in the east. if bonner fails to make another leap, i will be happy if the spurs trade him for an expiring contract and a first/second round pick. would give some luxury tax relief next year if the spurs decide to use their MLE.

naico
12-08-2008, 06:38 AM
The Spurs would look stupid, trading Bonner now. The way he's playing he's giving Duncan the opportunity to do his thing down low, avoiding big men double-teams. If he does get double-teamed, Bonner or any other shooter on the spurs is making the defense pay.

TD is havin' a party yall!!

tp2021
12-08-2008, 06:45 AM
I'm curious as to whether Mahinmi will become the starter next to Duncan, or if Bonner will keep it. Or, perhaps Oberto or Thomas can earn it. We shall see.

m33p0
12-08-2008, 07:18 AM
I'm curious as to whether Mahinmi will become the starter next to Duncan, or if Bonner will keep it. Or, perhaps Oberto or Thomas can earn it. We shall see.
i'm just curious to see if he ever does play.

m33p0
12-08-2008, 07:19 AM
let's see if the mood here changes after the Dallas game.














RED ROCKET!!!

tp2021
12-08-2008, 07:23 AM
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Manufan909
12-08-2008, 07:33 AM
NO IDEA............... how that related to the Spurs and Matt suddenly playing better, but it might be because I haven't been able to sleep all night.

tp2021
12-08-2008, 07:39 AM
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NO IDEA............... how that related to the Spurs and Matt suddenly playing better, but it might be because I haven't been able to sleep all night.



RED ROCKET!!!
I wanted to find a shorter vid, that only had the red rocket reference in it, but this was the best I could do.

SpurSupremacist
12-08-2008, 08:34 AM
I would rather them trade Manu, if they can get equal value or close to it. Bonner's shooting ability and hustle has been underappreciated his entire career. I have no doubt if they were to trade Bonner, they would not be getting equal value in return, because he is so underrated. Obviously not an all-star or close to it, but he is a damn fine NBA player. How many 6'10" 240lb big men do you see splitting a double team with the dribble? I can't think of any off of the top of my head, and yet I saw Bonner do that already this season. How many NBA players will play as hard as they can every night? Maybe a handful, he is one of them. DO NOT TRADE BONNER.

mrspurs
12-08-2008, 09:04 AM
if Bonnner keeps playing like this, I don't want him to go anywhere..

a workhorse down low is good and all..but if Bonner keeps shooting like this(which he can), he brings out other team's big men out of the paint to guard him..also, he's been much more aggressive on the boards and defensively..

Yeah no joke if they trade Matt,(the only big worth a crud right now) then San Antonio is gonna have alot of people getting sick. Thats what happens when Fab and Kurt hit the floor. And do I trust the FO with their moves on picking up bigs? Oh heck no I dont. Lets see how Ian turns out before they move on Matt. It would be a horror show if they traded Matt for someone like Kurt. And thats about all your gonna get for Matt. Names like Wilcox etc. dont impress me only because I know how Pop is with Bigs. He'd be on the bench sitting next to Fab,Kurt and Ian. While we have no choice but to go small.

mrspurs
12-08-2008, 09:06 AM
bonner has been playing well but i think he still lacks the mental toughness to compete in the playoffs. spurs should hold off until around the all star break just in case bonner decides to have hedo turkoglu moment, going from mediocre to great. he's definitely earned a third/fourth chance to prove himself but i'm still doubtful he will emerge in the spurs' playoff rotation. bonner hasn't been playing well enough to demonstrate that he's clutch.

i think he'll be a great addition to a playoff team in the east. if bonner fails to make another leap, i will be happy if the spurs trade him for an expiring contract and a first/second round pick. would give some luxury tax relief next year if the spurs decide to use their MLE.

Theres a big key. How will Matt play well when he's on the bench during the PO's? Lets see how he does for a month before we think that far.

Rogue
12-08-2008, 09:07 AM
No other spur than TD and Manu is untradable, I mean even Parker can be traded if any team offer us a bait that is attractive enough. There's no doubt that each team wants a big guy who's even as good as Dirk yet just takes 3m instead of 15m from his team, but the question is jsut the salary. We can hardly trade him for a guy as well as him who also just earns 3m as salary. Unless we can get Scola in return, NO WAY should we trade Bonner. Bonner is much better at long-range shooting than scola but still not as good as him over all, morey isn't gonna agree on such a trade that brings Scola back to san antonio.

DaBears
12-08-2008, 09:38 AM
Bonner is a good fit for the spurs. And one of the more tradeable pecies that they have, they have to make sure they get a good return on that trade if it were to ever happen.

Keepin' it real
12-08-2008, 11:32 AM
if Bonnner keeps playing like this, I don't want him to go anywhere..

I've seen a few quotes like this. The mentality appears to be: Trade players who suck; keep those who don't. But what NBA general manager in his right mind wants to trade for bad players? These GMs are not stupid. They're not fooled by a mediocre (at best) player enjoying a decent stretch of games.

If Bonner proves his improved play is not a fluke by remaining a solid contributor for the rest of the season and into next season, then the Spurs might be able to make a decent trade. Until then, unless the Vikings GM who authorized the Herschel Walker trade is now an NBA GM, we won't get anything for Bonner. So, enjoy his good play while it lasts. And let's hope it doesn't end anytime soon.

:flag:

Dex
12-08-2008, 11:42 AM
If Bonner can keep playing like a professional basketball player, then he brings a great asset to the table. Bonner on a good day is exactly what the Spurs needed when Horry left.

Unfortunately, Bonner on a bad day is a waste of floor space. If he goes back into the doghouse, he's useless to us and pretty much everybody else.

Thus is the catch 22 of the trade game.

Big P
12-08-2008, 11:58 AM
I would rather them trade Manu, if they can get equal value or close to it. Bonner's shooting ability and hustle has been underappreciated his entire career. I have no doubt if they were to trade Bonner, they would not be getting equal value in return, because he is so underrated. Obviously not an all-star or close to it, but he is a damn fine NBA player. How many 6'10" 240lb big men do you see splitting a double team with the dribble? I can't think of any off of the top of my head, and yet I saw Bonner do that already this season. How many NBA players will play as hard as they can every night? Maybe a handful, he is one of them. DO NOT TRADE BONNER.

Wow....thats a first for me....Trade Manu, but DO NOT TRADE BONNER?? :wow

xellos88330
12-08-2008, 12:38 PM
I actually think that Mahinmi would play behind Bonner. Seems to make more sense that way because, from what I have seen, Mahinmi's offensive abilities could possibly be underated. Hard to tell though considering he hasn't had much playing time. (He did have like 12 points in 6 minutes against the Bucks one year though.)

td4mvp21
12-08-2008, 12:53 PM
I don't think we should trade him. I don't know if I want him starting either though. He definitely gives us some versatility. Having him, Fab, KT, and Ian will give Pop a lot of different options.

SenorSpur
12-08-2008, 01:03 PM
I would rather them trade Manu, if they can get equal value or close to it. Bonner's shooting ability and hustle has been underappreciated his entire career. I have no doubt if they were to trade Bonner, they would not be getting equal value in return, because he is so underrated. Obviously not an all-star or close to it, but he is a damn fine NBA player. How many 6'10" 240lb big men do you see splitting a double team with the dribble? I can't think of any off of the top of my head, and yet I saw Bonner do that already this season. How many NBA players will play as hard as they can every night? Maybe a handful, he is one of them. DO NOT TRADE BONNER.

That statement sullies any other points you could possibly make. Why would you want Manu traded now?

Tully365
12-08-2008, 01:08 PM
At this point, he's more valuable than Nesterovic would've been and makes less than half Rasho's salary... so it turns out that that trade was a wise one. It seems Bonner's main problems in the past few years have been confidence and aggression on the court, and it looks like he is addressing both of those issues more successfully this year than in years past. I like what he's doing, but would still like to see the Spurs add another big body before mid-season. Right now, my favorite would be Courtney Sims of the Iowa Energy.

I. Hustle
12-08-2008, 01:17 PM
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rascal
12-08-2008, 02:17 PM
bonner has been playing well but i think he still lacks the mental toughness to compete in the playoffs. spurs should hold off until around the all star break just in case bonner decides to have hedo turkoglu moment, going from mediocre to great. he's definitely earned a third/fourth chance to prove himself but i'm still doubtful he will emerge in the spurs' playoff rotation. bonner hasn't been playing well enough to demonstrate that he's clutch.

i think he'll be a great addition to a playoff team in the east. if bonner fails to make another leap, i will be happy if the spurs trade him for an expiring contract and a first/second round pick. would give some luxury tax relief next year if the spurs decide to use their MLE.

Forget about bonner ever going from being a mediocre player to being great.

Trade him as soon as possible if possible to land a solid low post contributor.

honestfool84
12-08-2008, 03:38 PM
Here is a list of possible trade partners for the Spurs and Bonner.
Chi - Tyrus Thomas
GS - Brandon Wright
Mem - Hakim Warrick
Mil - Charlie Villanueva
NJ - Bonner and Vaughn for Najera and Ryan Anderson
Por - Diago or Outlaw
Sac - Sheldon Williams

While none of these players come close to the outside range of Bonner, they do provide and upgrade athletically and defensively.

what about shaq? or amare?

024
12-08-2008, 04:22 PM
actually now that i think about it, waiting until the all star break may be too long. re evaluate him at the end of december and trade bonner if he doesn't show more signs of improvement. buy low sell high.

Anti.Hero
12-08-2008, 07:13 PM
Scalabrine ain't got shit on ma'boy Bonner.

SpurSupremacist
12-08-2008, 10:45 PM
That statement sullies any other points you could possibly make. Why would you want Manu traded now?

Simple. Because in a couple of years from now, he will be worth next to nothing. He relies too much on quickness. He is turnover prone. Overdribbles and tries to be "the man" too often. That said, I love Manu's game and what he has done for the Spurs, but if we can get something like Aldridge and Martell Webster for him, I would LOVE that deal for the Spurs. Oden is a pipe dream, but he's really struggled. I'm wondering if they would take an established veteran all-star like Manu for him at this point, they have WAY too much youth. No question, if they accept that proposal, you make that deal. Bigs like Oden don't come around often.

wijayas
12-08-2008, 10:52 PM
Is Pop playing Bonner so much to strengthen his trade value a little down the road? It seems like this team doesnt need a jump shooting big man, as much as they need a workhorse down low to help out timmy.

This is what I think initially. But since Matt is proving his value as a Spurs, we may as well keep him.