trade suns/bobcats

[sonic21]

I read in another forum about this trade, they said there will be an official announcement in few hours.

Bell, Diaw, Singletary

for

Richardson, Dudley

Tucker will be activated.

[BillsCarnage]

Boo-yeah!
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2008/12/10/20081210sunstradeonline.html

I like it..
Diaw has been a waste since signing the contract..
Bell, i like, but he had 3 career years here, but this year is more reflective of who he really is as a player.
Plus his so called "great defense" always got lit up because he was undersized matching up against the better/taller 2guards.

Richardson should give the Suns an injection of scoring and can defend the taller guards.

[sonic21]

Boo-yeah!
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2008/12/10/20081210sunstradeonline.html

I like it..
Diaw has been a waste since signing the contract..
Bell, i like, but he had 3 career years here, but this year is more reflective of who he really is as a player.
Plus his so called "great defense" always got lit up because he was undersized matching up against the better/taller 2guards.

Richardson should give the Suns an injection of scoring and can defend the taller guards.

i guess it's already official.
thanks for the link.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Damn it.

[hater]

so much for Porter trying to play defense :lol

[I. Hustle]

:lol There go the Suns.

[IronMexican]

Good trade for Phoenix.

[monosylab1k]

So they'd rather have Boris Fucking Diaw than Josh Howard? My how J-Ho has fallen.

[sribb43]

"He's athletic and gives us a really potent offensive player," Suns General Manager Steve Kerr said. "He's also an excellent defensive players and he's in his prime. He's a very high-character guy and well-regarded around the league for his professionalism."

Kerr has lost his mind

[monosylab1k]

great trade by Phoenix, IMO. But you're dealing with MJ and the Bobcats, so anything less than a fleecing would be damn near impossible.

[sribb43]

Suns just acquired a Mavs killer

[N4th4n]

I think we are going to lose tonight!

[hater]

yup I see suns better vs. mavs and other teams. not spurs, who's gonna guard manu??

[monosylab1k]

Nash, Richardson, Hill, Amare, Shaq

that's a really stout starting 5. too bad they've got dog shit for a bench.

[sribb43]

Nash, Richardson, Hill, Amare, Shaq

that's a really stout starting 5. too bad they've got dog shit for a bench.

they should have just kept D'Antoni...he would kill with that lineup. Stupid ass Kerr

[Shank]

Suns bench is still shit and now they're worse off defensively. I don't get how this helps either team. Shuffling deck chairs.

[hater]

they will probably play 7 deep until Shaq loses a leg midcourt

[N4th4n]

If we could some how get a back up big we would be set.

[sribb43]

They should have acquired Felton in the deal, they desperately need a backup PG

[ClingingMars]

Singletary? dammit.

-Mars

[MaNu4Tres]

Tucker will impress you

[monosylab1k]

They should have acquired Felton in the deal, they desperately need a backup PG

Getting rid of Sean Singletary for nothing actually helped their backup PG situation considerably.

[IronMexican]

Phoenix wasn't going to win with what they had, so why not?

[Shank]

Singletary is a bag.

[ClingingMars]

Singletary is a bag.

not sure what you mean by this, he's a load of a potential (and a personal friend of mine)

-Mars

[sribb43]

Getting rid of Sean Singletary for nothing actually helped their backup PG situation considerably.

I guess Dragic earned the backup PG spot with his performance against the mavs last thursday :lol

[monosylab1k]

not sure what you mean by this, he's a load of a potential (and a personal friend of mine)

-Mars

Have you seen him play at all this year? They'd have been better off running 4 on 5 whenever Nash was on the bench.

[Shank]

not sure what you mean by this, he's a load of a potential (and a personal friend of mine)

-Mars

That's good he's your friend and all, but he hasn't exactly done much of note in his time in the NBA.

[sribb43]

Singletary is d-league material

[TheMadHatter]

MJ is easily the worst GM in the NBA today.

[JamStone]

Now the Suns have really no depth in the front court.

On the bright side for Amare, he gets to play in the final 5 minutes of blowout games to get his stats.

[ClingingMars]

That's good he's your friend and all, but he hasn't exactly done much of note in his time in the NBA.

which has been less than a year? :lol

give a guy a break. come on. he's a rookie. he WILL be a good scorer in the NBA if a team gives him a chance.

Just remember, he came from the same place that produced Roger "Money" Mason Jr.

-Mars

[N4th4n]

We will see how quickly Robin Lopez can learn the NBA game now. Dudley can play some 4, but I still want a back up 4/5 with NBA experiance.

[JackArse]

which has been less than a year? :lol

give a guy a break. come on. he's a rookie. he WILL be a good scorer in the NBA if a team gives him a chance.

Just remember, he came from the same place that produced Roger "Money" Mason Jr.

-Mars

yeah, he'll be a good scorer, what they needed him to be was a facilitator. i don't like him leaving for what his potential was.. but he usually just went and dribbled around alot.

[crc21209]

Well I guess the Suns wanna go back to Suns version 2005. Cuz this is definetly not going to help them on defense at all, and they have no bench either. They'll go about 6-7 deep every night. Sorry Suns, you'll get scoring, but not be able to stop anyone else at the same time. Loss.

[JamStone]

The Bobcats are going to average 65 ppg this season from here on out.

[T Park]

This trade just killed the Phoenix Suns.

Their perimiter defense was already shakey to begin with.

Now you trade your best one, for a one dimensional ball hog shooting guard.

Getting back Jared Dudley was solid, but come on.


IMO, this trade just killed the Suns chances of contending, and they just became easier for the Spurs to match up against.

[byrdman31]

:lol:lol Thanks suns

[Shank]

How's that Suns-Lakers game going to look tonight?

[N4th4n]

Everyone who thinks this is going to effect our perimiter D has obviously not watch Raja Bell play this season.

[sook]

Suns just got an amazing SG..what they've always lacked.

Phoenix will be kickass now

[sonic21]

how many bigs will the suns have tonight?
no shaq, no diaw

[Shank]

Suns just got an amazing SG..what they've always lacked.

I'd reserve calling Richardson "amazing".

[ClingingMars]

get amare/shaq in foul trouble and it's bye bye suns

-Mars

[kcplayboi_26]

Everyone who thinks this is going to effect our perimiter D has obviously not watch Raja Bell play this season.



hahaha yea exactly, i knw ive seen everygame....LETS GOOOOOOOOO good trade. Shake it up a lil

[kcplayboi_26]

We never really had a SG as homie said above me, besides JJ was creating when he was here off the dribble for hiself

[crc21209]

Another thing I've noticed is J-Rich that KILLED the Mavs was J-Rich of almost 2 yrs ago, I've seen some Bobcats games and hes not as great/money/clutch as he was in that series anymore.

[Warlord23]

This is only good if the Suns draw the Mavs in the playoffs ... which is unlikely since both will probably be low seeds or one of them might miss the postseason altogether

[lurker]

Steve Kerr, king of the panic trades that makes no sense. Your turn, Dallas.

[endrity]

I hate this trade from the Mavs perspective. The Suns will be better, their D was bad already, and their perimeter offense was also really bad. With Nash along him, JRich will be very good.
I was hoping that if we traded Howard, we could get Richardson. So this is really a bad trade even as a lost opportunity for the Mavs.
I don't like today, I think both the Suns and Hornets got better in the long run.

[Anti.Hero]

I like this as a Spurs fan.

[Darthkiller]

Steve Kerr, king of the panic trades that makes no sense. Your turn, Dallas.

really? Even if they trade diaw for a big of chips, it would still be a good trade.

[endrity]

Another thing I've noticed is J-Rich that KILLED the Mavs was J-Rich of almost 2 yrs ago, I've seen some Bobcats games and hes not as great/money/clutch as he was in that series anymore.

He was putting good numbers last year, but in Charlotte it's hard to do much more. I think Richardson is still pretty much the same player, and I will be scared next time he lines up against the Mavs.

[kcplayboi_26]

really? Even if they trade diaw for a big of chips, it would still be a good trade.

lol

[lurker]

really? Even if they trade diaw for a big of chips, it would still be a good trade.
It's not trading Diaw that I think was the wrong decision. He's useless against almost everyone. It's the inclusion of Bell that confuses me.

[Spur-Addict]

Phoenix wasn't going to win with what they had, so why not?

Exactly.


This trade just killed the Phoenix Suns.

Their perimiter defense was already shakey to begin with.

Now you trade your best one, for a one dimensional ball hog shooting guard.

Getting back Jared Dudley was solid, but come on.
IMO, this trade just killed the Suns chances of contending, and they just became easier for the Spurs to match up against.

They needed someone who can create their own shot on the perimeter. Dudley helps that bench out, that's a good role for him on a good team. He also helps with defensive issues. See quote below as well.


Suns just got GOOD SG..what they've always lacked.

Phoenix will be better off now

Fixed


Another thing I've noticed is J-Rich that KILLED the Mavs was J-Rich of almost 2 yrs ago, I've seen some Bobcats games and hes not as great/money/clutch as he was in that series anymore.

It's hard to be clutch on a shit team, the roster was and is not very good. He still has his athleticism and shooting ability. It's hard to say this is a bad trade especially seeing as how Diaw isn't doing well in Porter's system.

[sribb43]

So what are the suns gonna do in the frontcourt when Shaq sits out b2b....they need to resign Bo Outlaw and Paul Shirely, that way they can revamp their bench to resemble the 05 team

[kcplayboi_26]

come on need u haters to sway the poll ur way lol http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8924702/Richardson-dealt-to-Suns-for-Diaw,-Bell

[z0sa]

come on need u haters to sway the poll ur way lol http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8924702/Richardson-dealt-to-Suns-for-Diaw,-Bell

It's 60/40 right now ...

[024]

diaw was supposed to a player that can outmatch players at any position due to his athleticism and length. instead, he's just kind of useless at every position. ejecting diaw for richardson is good since richardson is still young. bell was a good role player so the suns still gave up something of value.

[kcplayboi_26]

It's 60/40 right now ...

damn u guys swayed it that much already???


POsted on ESPN lol :


hazard_7o4
hazard_7o4 (12/10/2008 at 6:33 PM)
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WHAT ARE THE BOBCAT'S THINKING....Believe it or not i have been going to see them play when they first got Richardson.But i guess not anymore. It just doesn't make any sense. they traded our top scorer for two guys, who combine can't even score as good as him. Will i guess we will make history on this one. "BREAKING NEWS:CHARLOTTE BOBCATS MAKE HISTORY. SCORES LESS THAN 40 POINTS IN A GAME."

[dirk4mvp]

diaw was supposed to a player that can outmatch players at any position due to his athleticism and length. instead, he's just kind of useless at every position. ejecting diaw for richardson is good since richardson is still young. bell was a good role player so the suns still gave up something of value.


Bell was their only perimeter defender. They're pretty think there now.

[Ghazi]

It's either a complete wash or a very slight upgrade for the Suns. they'll still be 7th, 8th, or 9th in the west in my opinion.

[pauls931]

Not sure what to make of this. I hate seeing Bell go, he has attitude, but I guess Barnes makes up for it... Diaw had so much potential, but just played soft. However I bet diaw with pop reaming him would have been a good player on the spurs.

[Armando]

I just learned of this now. Wow I know JRich is no Bruce Bowen and losing Raja will hurt but the other team has to guard JRich as well. At the very least he is an upgrade over Bell at the 2 guard and will alleviate alot of pressure of Nash. He is going to get alot of open looks when teams double team Shaq and Amare. But we will soon see how it looks.

[Armando]

By the way I can't believe that MJ agreed to trade his leading scorer for Bell and Diaw.

[jack sommerset]

Hmmm. Suns got better deal but they had to give up Bell and Diaw, they are pretty good. The Suns really have no bench now.

[Armando]

I wonder how soon before Marion gets traded?

[DrHouse]

Suns need to reunite with Pringles. Bring Marion back too.

I want to see some high flying offense with absolutely no defense and a short 8 man rotation.

[Armando]

Suns need to reunite with Pringles. Bring Marion back too.

I want to see some high flying offense with absolutely no defense and a short 8 man rotation.

Hey I tell you what if Pringles were still here he would kill with this starting 5.

[manufor3]

Good trade for Phoenix.

[pauls931]

Didn't know nash and bell were such good friends. This game is probably going to be ugly tonight. You know it's bad when Walton makes a good play.

[Armando]

Didn't know nash and bell were such good friends. This game is probably going to be ugly tonight. You know it's bad when Walton makes a good play.



Yeah I figure this game is a throwaway game. They won't be able to keep pace with Lakers missing 3 players. Hopefully I am wrong

[sribb43]

The Bobcats are a terrible organization. They traded their top 10 pick in the 2007 draft to GS for J-Rich, only to trade him for Bell and Diaw. That is just awful management

[lurker]

Didn't know nash and bell were such good friends. This game is probably going to be ugly tonight. You know it's bad when Walton makes a good play.
Yeah, they've been close since they played in Dallas together.


If the Lakers don't win by more than 20, they should be embarrassed of themselves.

[Armando]

It definitely wasn't as fun," Diaw told The Arizona Republic. "It wasn't as exciting for the fans. It's not as fun for everybody [on the team]. I'll always remember Phoenix with Mike [D'Antoni]. We went from a winning team that was the most exciting team in the league to a half-winning team that wasn't exciting at all." - Boris Diaw

[z0sa]

It definitely wasn't as fun," Diaw told The Arizona Republic. "It wasn't as exciting for the fans. It's not as fun for everybody [on the team]. I'll always remember Phoenix with Mike [D'Antoni]. We went from a winning team that was the most exciting team in the league to a half-winning team that wasn't exciting at all." - Boris Diaw

Someone sounds pissed about Porter's totally opposite winning philosophies.

[peskypesky]

By the way I can't believe that MJ agreed to trade his leading scorer for Bell and Diaw.

You can't?

[peskypesky]

4pt game!! Suns might just beat the Fakers.

[Armando]

IDk know how the Suns are still in this game

[Armando]

Someone sounds pissed about Porter's totally opposite winning philosophies.

You know they need to give Porter a fair shake.

[Armando]

You can't?



Then again Kwame Brown

[mojorizen7]

Singletary is d-league material

Not true. At times he ran Porters offense as well as Nash(partly because Nash looks ordinary running it)....but his skills are still weak. He showed good poise & the balls to take (and make)big shots with guys like Stoudemire on the floor.
He's not starting material yet , but he's no scrub either.

[kcplayboi_26]

well see, the team wasnt getting anywhere with them lets see what happens with. pretty much last push for couple years with shaq retiring, nash decline, amare probally gone in 2010, hill retiring. dont have time to wait for diaw to live to his full potiential, and if u guys watched raja this year and his D than u would understand. Panic move by Kerr knowning this thing will be done in a couple years in my opinion................btw i like singletary as well, he will eventually be a legit backup point guard

[kcplayboi_26]

H2DHNLPtW7Q

[Bob Lanier]

That pretty much sums up Jason Richardson.

The good news is that he's a considerably better free throw shooter than Shaq.

[pauls931]

Maybe kerr will panic and accidentally trade himself.

[Indazone]

Tucker will impress you

I am ready to see what Tucker can do. Tucker and Carl Landry led the Big Ten in scoring in their senior year. Tucker can flat out light it up. I think he's been glued to the bench without reason other than being a rookie.