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2centsworth
12-13-2008, 05:39 PM
Who are the best fighters ever on the show?

I think the best will be decided on the 27th.

dbreiden83080
12-13-2008, 06:21 PM
Well Forrrest is for sure the most accomplished of the group, he is a legit great fighter, probably the only guy off the show you can say that about at this point.. So i guess i'd go not really in order..

Forrest Griffin
Keith Jardine
Rashad Evans
Matt Hammill
Mike Bisping
Diego Sanchez
Josh Koshcheck
Kenny Florian
Joe Stevenson
Nathan Diaz
Chris Lytle (Comeback show but man i love that guy)

Anti.Hero
12-13-2008, 07:01 PM
KenFlooooooooooooooo

dallaskd
12-17-2008, 09:30 PM
DBs list is pretty good. I would throw Mike Swick on there, even Leben. And of course the silverback! SETH PETRUZELLI!!!!!!!!!!!!

angelbelow
12-30-2008, 12:20 AM
i disagree with matt hamil.

PhoenixSpursFan
12-30-2008, 01:30 AM
Frank Mir!!!!!!!!!:downspin:

robbie380
12-30-2008, 09:35 AM
Frank Mir!!!!!!!!!:downspin:

mma guru fail


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113145

I am the MMa Guru ask me anything you want to know!:king

dbreiden83080
12-31-2008, 05:33 PM
i disagree with matt hamil.

Whaaaaa???

Rip-Hamilton32
12-31-2008, 05:46 PM
nate quarry is one of em he was knocking everyone out until he ran into rich

BlackSwordsMan
12-31-2008, 06:27 PM
i disagree with matt hamil.

:downspin:

dallaskd
12-31-2008, 07:05 PM
nate quarry is one of em he was knocking everyone out until he ran into rich

He fought Rich a long time before he was on TUF 4 so it doesnt really count.

dallaskd
12-31-2008, 07:07 PM
mma guru fail


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113145

Are you doing coaches or something?

Evan
12-31-2008, 08:34 PM
really in order..

Forrest Griffin
Keith Jardine
Rashad Evans
Matt Hammill
Mike Bisping
Diego Sanchez
Josh Koshcheck
Kenny Florian
Joe Stevenson
Nathan Diaz
Chris Lytle (Comeback show but man i love that guy)

Good list really...

Although KOS needs to be higher and so does KenFlo...

And no matter how it happened...Serra needs to be on there...
he beat GSP.

dbreiden83080
01-01-2009, 12:28 PM
Good list really...

Although KOS needs to be higher and so does KenFlo...

And no matter how it happened...Serra needs to be on there...
he beat GSP.

Well i said not really in any order, i don't really know who i'd put where. And yeah i kind of agree about Serra but Lytle has done way more since leaving TUF then Serra. He beat GSP got hurt, lost to GSP, got hurt again. The guy never fights.. But like you said, he did beat him.. But Lytle is a warrior..

Evan
01-01-2009, 02:24 PM
Well i said not really in any order, i don't really know who i'd put where. And yeah i kind of agree about Serra but Lytle has done way more since leaving TUF then Serra. He beat GSP got hurt, lost to GSP, got hurt again. The guy never fights.. But like you said, he did beat him.. But Lytle is a warrior..

My bad...I read that wrong.


Yeah dude I love Lytle...its a tough top 10. People sit in their diapers and cry about how bad TUF is for the sport but look at the amazing talent its producing.

While Diego is certainly a top 10...I would also say he is the most disappointing out of the group.

dallaskd
01-02-2009, 12:05 AM
Good list really...

Although KOS needs to be higher and so does KenFlo...

And no matter how it happened...Serra needs to be on there...
he beat GSP.

Swick...

Rip-Hamilton32
01-02-2009, 01:45 AM
He fought Rich a long time before he was on TUF 4 so it doesnt really count.

uh he was was on tough 1 but he broke his leg training

dallaskd
01-02-2009, 02:37 AM
uh he was was on tough 1 but he broke his leg training

was he really? at MW with Kenny, Diego, and Leben? wow i don't even remember that lol

dallaskd
01-02-2009, 02:40 AM
Quarry still has not beat anybody to have a notable resume. Back when he was at the top, the UFC's middleweights were so bad. With all due respect to Evan Tanner and The Crow...come on

dallaskd
01-02-2009, 02:51 AM
Let's do coaches (in order)

1. BJ Penn
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Randy Couture
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Chuck Liddell
6. Matt Hughes
7. Rich Franklin
8. Forrest Griffin
9. Tito Ortiz
10. Frank Mir
11. Jens Pulver
12. Matt Serra
13. Ken Shamrock

angelbelow
01-02-2009, 04:03 AM
Whaaaaa???

dont get me wrong, im impressed that he is deaf but is still able to train, and hes a lovable guy. but i just dont think hes top 10 in terms of talent.

i would like to throw quick swick in before hammil.

dbreiden83080
01-02-2009, 03:09 PM
but i just dont think hes top 10 in terms of talent.

i would like to throw quick swick in before hammil.

I don't agree with that. In fact he is one of the most physically imposing fighters to come off that show. Amazing wrestler and he has huge power in his hands. Did you see his fight at UFC 92?? He doesn't have many fights but unfortunately for his 2 big ones, Bisping and Franklin, he got robbed blind by the judges in one and was not ready to fight such a great fighter in the other.. But if we have Bisping in there, Hammill needs to be. He beat Bisping, and he has i feel still huge upside..

Ballin Boy
01-04-2009, 10:21 PM
My order
1. rashad evans
2.forrest griffin
3. Kenny florian
4.Michael Bisping
5.Joe Stevensen
6.diego Sanchez
7. Josh Koscheck
8. Keith Jardine
9. Chris leben
10.matt hamill

Evan
01-04-2009, 10:25 PM
Swick...

Good Lord how could I forget Swick....

tough thread 2centsworth...my head is smoking......

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 09:42 AM
No Joe Lauzon on this list?

stretch
01-05-2009, 10:18 AM
Shaq would dominate them all.

Rockhound
01-05-2009, 10:27 AM
The only thing Shaq dominates is the in & out burger.

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 10:45 AM
The only thing Shaq dominates is the in & out burger.

lol

desflood
01-05-2009, 11:16 AM
Let's do coaches (in order)

1. BJ Penn
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Randy Couture
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Chuck Liddell
6. Matt Hughes
7. Rich Franklin
8. Forrest Griffin
9. Tito Ortiz
10. Frank Mir
11. Jens Pulver
12. Matt Serra
13. Ken Shamrock

Are you judging coaches by their fighting skills, or by their coaching skills? If we went by coaching, we'd have to switch some around. Assuming we judged by which team the seasonal winners were on, we'd have to put Liddell above Couture and Jens Pulver over Penn.

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 11:20 AM
Sham was the worst coach by far.

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 11:29 AM
Sham was the worst coach by far.

Yeah he was really only there to get in Tito's face, he didn't care about anything else..

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 11:31 AM
Yeah he was really only there to get in Tito's face, he didn't care about anything else..

Yeah he was totally there for himself. That being said I think Mir was the same way but he actually trained and rolled with his guys and seemed to SOMEwhat care. I really liked Page as a coach, he was hilarious and cared.

Evan
01-05-2009, 12:42 PM
Sham was the worst coach by far.

Tito brought in a wrestling, cardio and striking coach

Shamrock brought in that meathead weightlifter as a assistant coach...wtf?

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 12:50 PM
Tito brought in a wrestling, cardio and striking coach

Shamrock brought in that meathead weightlifter as a assistant coach...wtf?

It was funny that was actually the show that got me back into MMA. I stopped watching really when Tito left but one day just flipping through the channels i came across the premeire of TUF 3 and was amazed to see Tito back and there with Ken. But Ken was just there for himself. For a guy with a great coaching background from his Lions Den days, he just brought nothing to the table for those guys. He didn't even show up on certain days, without an explanation. His guys were training in the backyard, kicking trees.. :lol

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 01:02 PM
It was funny that was actually the show that got me back into MMA. I stopped watching really when Tito left but one day just flipping through the channels i came across the premeire of TUF 3 and was amazed to see Tito back and there with Ken. But Ken was just there for himself. For a guy with a great coaching background from his Lions Den days, he just brought nothing to the table for those guys. He didn't even show up on certain days, without an explanation. His guys were training in the backyard, kicking trees.. :lol

Yeah I forgot about that, I felt bad for those guys.

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 01:14 PM
Yeah I forgot about that, I felt bad for those guys.

There is really no excuse whatsoever when you think about it. Ken already made his place in history, but for these guys it was their big shot and he didn't even help them.. People can hate on Tito but he went all out on the show for his guys..

stretch
01-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Shaq > all MMA fighters combined

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Shaq > all MMA fighters combined

Well he's certainly fatter.. :sleep

stretch
01-05-2009, 02:18 PM
Well he's certainly stronger and most definitely a better fighter.

desflood
01-05-2009, 02:21 PM
I forgot stretch was on my ignore until I had to take him off to see what he said :lol

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 02:23 PM
Shaq's fatter, uglier and more arrogant than all MMA fighters combined

:toast

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 02:27 PM
I forgot stretch was on my ignore until I had to take him off to see what he said :lol

He's got a Beavis and Butt-head Avvy.. Principal McVicker..


:lol:lol:lol
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/BB-PrincipalMcVicker.jpg

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 02:29 PM
He's got a Beavis and Butt-head Avvy.. Principal McVicker..


:lol:lol:lol
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/BB-PrincipalMcVicker.jpg

is that who that is?

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 02:32 PM
I think its funny that stretch likes to make fun of MMA but if a MMA fighter was in front of him he would shit his pants.

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 02:34 PM
I think its funny that stretch likes to make fun of MMA but if a MMA fighter was in front of him he would shit his pants.

Lets get Brock and his Penis Tatoo in front of him. See if he makes fun of it.. :lol

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 02:38 PM
Lets get Brock and his Penis Tatoo in front of him. See if he makes fun of it.. :lol

LMAO or have him make fun of the way GSP talks.

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 02:40 PM
LMAO or have him make fun of the way GSP talks.

I don't think he will be "Impressed with his performance"

djohn14
01-05-2009, 03:04 PM
Cain Velasquez versus Shaq...Right now!

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 03:13 PM
Cain Velasquez versus Shaq...Right now!

Cain shit, Matt Serra could take Shaq..

ATRAIN
01-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Cain Velasquez versus Shaq...Right now!


Cain shit, Matt Serra could take Shaq..

Sera yes Cain.......HELLL NO. LMAO

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 03:40 PM
Sera yes Cain.......HELLL NO. LMAO

Serra's catchphrase to Shaq

"What a Dick"

:lol

stretch
01-05-2009, 05:21 PM
Shaq's attempted punch on Brad Miller is proof alone that he is better than any MMA fighter. Even though he missed, if he landed it, he most assuredly would have knocked Miller's head clear off his shoulders. I've never seen an MMA fighter do anything remotely close to that.

LEONARD
01-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Stretch...this thread is about TUF alum's, not the fact that Shaq would get beatup by BJ Penn in a street fight. Please stick to the topic...

Thanks

dirk4mvp
01-05-2009, 05:33 PM
Mike Tyson in his prime could probably beat any of these guys.

stretch
01-05-2009, 05:34 PM
I am sticking to the topic. I believe Shaq is better than any ultimate fighter, thus rendering this list you guys are making, obsolete.

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 06:01 PM
I am sticking to the topic. I believe Shaq is better than any ultimate fighter, thus rendering this list you guys are making, obsolete.

Let us know when you are done trolling ASS-Clown..


Mike Tyson in his prime could probably beat any of these guys.

In a cage with MMA rules, not a chance in hell..

LEONARD
01-05-2009, 06:28 PM
I am sticking to the topic. I believe Shaq is better than any ultimate fighter, thus rendering this list you guys are making, obsolete.

Shaq was not on the "The Ultimate Fighter" show on SpikeTV, therefore you're off topic...

Start your own topic...

djohn14
01-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Mike Tyson in his prime could probably beat any of these guys.

Not Cain Velasquez Bitch!

angelbelow
01-05-2009, 08:29 PM
I don't agree with that. In fact he is one of the most physically imposing fighters to come off that show. Amazing wrestler and he has huge power in his hands. Did you see his fight at UFC 92?? He doesn't have many fights but unfortunately for his 2 big ones, Bisping and Franklin, he got robbed blind by the judges in one and was not ready to fight such a great fighter in the other.. But if we have Bisping in there, Hammill needs to be. He beat Bisping, and he has i feel still huge upside..

i complete agree with upside. but i did in fact watch ufc 92 and i wasnt impressed by his win. after he rocked his opponent he looked clueless on how to finish, fortunately he did indeed find a way but he didnt look like a fluent fighter to me. hes not there yet, but he will be.

besides, all im saying is swick should be on that list and if i were to take out one guy it would be hammil.

angelbelow
01-05-2009, 08:32 PM
Shaq's attempted punch on Brad Miller is proof alone that he is better than any MMA fighter. Even though he missed, if he landed it, he most assuredly would have knocked Miller's head clear off his shoulders. I've never seen an MMA fighter do anything remotely close to that.

do you realize that miller BARELY saw that punch coming? shaq attacked while millers back was towards him. even if it landed it would have been hailed as a sucker punch. pretty idiotic comparison.

dbreiden83080
01-05-2009, 09:20 PM
Even though he missed, if he landed it, he most assuredly would have knocked Miller's head clear off his shoulders. I've never seen an MMA fighter do anything remotely close to that.

:lol:lol Oh MY GOD, are you for real?? :rolleyes :drunk:drunk

stretch
01-06-2009, 11:31 AM
Shaq was not on the "The Ultimate Fighter" show on SpikeTV, therefore you're off topic...

Start your own topic...

lol, crybaby

are you going to go trying to search for my identity now, like you did with mono? :lmao :lmao :lmao

stretch
01-06-2009, 11:32 AM
do you realize that miller BARELY saw that punch coming? shaq attacked while millers back was towards him. even if it landed it would have been hailed as a sucker punch. pretty idiotic comparison.

Shaq > UFC

stretch
01-06-2009, 11:32 AM
:lol:lol Oh MY GOD, are you for real?? :rolleyes :drunk:drunk

yes.

LEONARD
01-06-2009, 01:13 PM
lol, crybaby

are you going to go trying to search for my identity now, like you did with mono? :lmao :lmao :lmao

:rollin

Wow...

stretch
01-06-2009, 01:20 PM
:rollin

Wow...

lol, mma

LEONARD
01-06-2009, 01:23 PM
:lol:lol Oh MY GOD, are you for real?? :rolleyes :drunk:drunk

It's a bit man...

dbreiden83080
01-06-2009, 01:26 PM
It's a bit man...

Aren't those supposed to be funny??

LEONARD
01-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Aren't those supposed to be funny??

Typically...just ignore him and he'll go back to the NBA forum...

stretch
01-06-2009, 01:49 PM
Aren't those supposed to be funny??

Well, its definitely not as funny as the way you guys love watching sweaty men rub each other up in preparation for the hot beef injection they plan on giving one another after the fight.

2centsworth
01-06-2009, 05:51 PM
my list:

rashad
forrest
Flo
keith jardine (i know it's high, but he's done more IMO)
Bisping
Koschek
Sanchez
Stevenson
Diaz
?

dbreiden83080
01-06-2009, 07:35 PM
my list:

rashad
forrest
Flo
keith jardine (i know it's high, but he's done more IMO)
Bisping
Koschek
Sanchez
Stevenson
Diaz
?

IT's scary how much i hate Bisping.. :flipoff

Evan
01-06-2009, 08:15 PM
IT's scary how much i hate Bisping.. :flipoff

Love him or hate him...rank him :p:

djohn14
01-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Love him or hate him...rank him :p:

Gotcha there!!! Slightly off topic, maybe not though.

EVAN (and any others who are interested)...I heard that Dana said that Ishii might even be featured on the next season of TUF, but then again...I also have heard the next season is America versus Britain..so I dont know.

Evan
01-06-2009, 09:54 PM
Gotcha there!!! Slightly off topic, maybe not though.

EVAN (and any others who are interested)...I heard that Dana said that Ishii might even be featured on the next season of TUF, but then again...I also have heard the next season is America versus Britain..so I dont know.

I am very interested!

I have never heard so much confusion about TUF as I have about the next season....crazy!

djohn14
01-06-2009, 10:06 PM
I am very interested!

I have never heard so much confusion about TUF as I have about the next season....crazy!

It should be very a great season!!!! I must admit...Im pumped already.

dallaskd
01-07-2009, 12:23 AM
Are you judging coaches by their fighting skills, or by their coaching skills? If we went by coaching, we'd have to switch some around. Assuming we judged by which team the seasonal winners were on, we'd have to put Liddell above Couture and Jens Pulver over Penn.

Fighting Skill.

dallaskd
01-07-2009, 12:28 AM
I really think Mike Swick is the most underrated guy to come of the show. He is 8-1 in the UFC with wins over The Crow, Riggs, Burkman, Marcus Davis, Goulet... Okami was just to strong for him, but he had him in trouble at the end of the second round and actually revesed him at the end of the 3rd and did some GnP. He will be a force a 170.