I want everyone's input..

[mfanatic]

Aright guys/girls, I'm an Econ major and to make things short, I was following news in Africa, obviously they are starving, (as a country), diseases, starvation, etc. Now, obviously your average "joe" can not send millions down to Africa to help support them, because they've got to support themselves.

Now, I'm very curious to see, most, if not all the NBA/NFL superstars happen to be black, not a racist comment, it's just the truth. Now, these guys on average make 10-15 million dollars a year, say that again, 15 million dollars a year. Now, couldn't the likes of Kobe, James, Owens, Shaq, and all of the other superstars that are making millions, why don't they donate approximately 1 million each? IM SURE THEY ALL HAVE OVER 100 million in their bank accounts, so why not donate back to where they came from? I know if I were in their situations, I'd donate as much as I could to the country where I came from.

I'm actually writing a paper on this topic, so any input would be great. Thanks-

[Bob Lanier]

How many NBA players are African? Four? Five? And most of them, like most other international players, are fairly respectable in terms of investing in their homelands.

Also, Africa isn't a country.

[balli]

Pfffffffff...

Stupidest thing Ive ever heard. America is drowning. How come the rich, white executives who write those black player's checks, don't just donate a million dollars each to the people here who can't afford medical care or are facing foreclosure?

You're main thesis is that black people don't give back enough to a continent we destroyed and stole their ancestors from hundreds of years ago? :rolleyes. Unless you're attending Jerry Falwell's "university", good luck with that.

[mfanatic]

How many NBA players are African? Four? Five?

I'm speaking behalf of "black" people themselves.
So that's about 65% of the NBA
60% of the NFL
50% of the NBL

[Bob Lanier]

Speaking as a black African, I really wish you wouldn't. The descendants of American slaves (and their slaveowners) have almost nothing in common with us.

[balli]

This is so fucking ignorant. It's beyond offensive that somebody could be this arrogant and dumb.

[Kori Ellis]

so why not donate back to where they came from?

Most of them didn't come from Africa. Maybe their descendants did, but that's a big leap.

Anyway, the average NBA salary is under $6M a year, over half that goes to taxes. There aren't many players at all with $100 million in their bank accounts.

[Indazone]

OMG this is like the dumbest post ever. Black athletes should donate 100 million to Africa? Do you know what that much money would do for Africa? Nothing. That's like a drop in the bucket. Why don't you ask guys like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates to donate to Africa....whoops they already are! George Bush has already donated Billions of dollars to Africa.

[duncan228]

From what I understand, most of the 'superstar' players all have their own charities that they either run or contribute their money/time/name to. They are giving back, in whatever way they feel strongest about.

Using Duncan as an example, it's children that have lost parents at young ages, cancer detection and treatment for people that need assistance, and a 'character' program for school kids. His Foundation works in San Antonio, St. Croix, and North Carolina (where Wake Forest is). Those are the places he 'comes' from, and that's where he gives back. I think that's fairly representitive of the league.

[Armando]

OMG this is like the dumbest post ever. Black athletes should donate 100 million to Africa? Do you know what that much money would do for Africa? Nothing. That's like a drop in the bucket. Why don't you ask guys like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates to donate to Africa....whoops they already are! George Bush has already donated Billions of dollars to Africa.



He/She actually said for them to donate 1 million not 100 miliion. Anywho I agree with you why do we always put it on athletes to donate money. Where is Warren Buffet,the Bush family with all thier oil money? All these big corporations have a responsibilty to be good citizens and so far have failed.

[cobbler]

He/She actually said for them to donate 1 million not 100 miliion. Anywho I agree with you why do we always put it on athletes to donate money. Where is Warren Buffet,the Bush family with all thier oil money? All these big corporations have a responsibilty to be good citizens and so far have failed.

Buffett has pledged to gradually give 85% of his Berkshire stock to five foundations. A dominant five-sixths of the shares will go to the world's largest philanthropic organization, the $30 billion Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, whose principals are close friends of Buffett's (a connection that began in 1991, when a mutual friend introduced Buffett and Bill Gates).

The Gateses credit Buffett, says Bill, with having "inspired" their thinking about giving money back to society. Their foundation's activities, internationally famous, are focused on world health -- fighting such diseases as malaria, HIV/AIDS, and tuberculosis -- and on improving U.S. libraries and high schools.

[Armando]

Buffett has pledged to gradually give 85% of his Berkshire stock to five foundations. A dominant five-sixths of the shares will go to the world's largest philanthropic organization, the $30 billion Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, whose principals are close friends of Buffett's (a connection that began in 1991, when a mutual friend introduced Buffett and Bill Gates).

The Gateses credit Buffett, says Bill, with having "inspired" their thinking about giving money back to society. Their foundation's activities, internationally famous, are focused on world health -- fighting such diseases as malaria, HIV/AIDS, and tuberculosis -- and on improving U.S. libraries and high schools.


Thanks was not aware of that

[resistanze]

Africa is a country?

[Armando]

Africa is a country?


Sarah Palin is that you?

[resistanze]

Aright guys/girls, I'm an Econ major and to make things short, I was following news in Africa, obviously they are starving, (as a country), diseases, starvation, etc. Now, obviously your average "joe" can not send millions down to Africa to help support them, because they've got to support themselves.

Now, I'm very curious to see, most, if not all the NBA/NFL superstars happen to be black, not a racist comment, it's just the truth. Now, these guys on average make 10-15 million dollars a year, say that again, 15 million dollars a year. Now, couldn't the likes of Kobe, James, Owens, Shaq, and all of the other superstars that are making millions, why don't they donate approximately 1 million each? IM SURE THEY ALL HAVE OVER 100 million in their bank accounts, so why not donate back to where they came from? I know if I were in their situations, I'd donate as much as I could to the country where I came from.

I'm actually writing a paper on this topic, so any input would be great. Thanks-
You better switch topics.

[JoeTait75]

Aright guys/girls, I'm an Econ major and to make things short, I was following news in Africa, obviously they are starving, (as a country), diseases, starvation, etc. Now, obviously your average "joe" can not send millions down to Africa to help support them, because they've got to support themselves.

Now, I'm very curious to see, most, if not all the NBA/NFL superstars happen to be black, not a racist comment, it's just the truth. Now, these guys on average make 10-15 million dollars a year, say that again, 15 million dollars a year. Now, couldn't the likes of Kobe, James, Owens, Shaq, and all of the other superstars that are making millions, why don't they donate approximately 1 million each? IM SURE THEY ALL HAVE OVER 100 million in their bank accounts, so why not donate back to where they came from? I know if I were in their situations, I'd donate as much as I could to the country where I came from.

I'm actually writing a paper on this topic, so any input would be great. Thanks-

Speaking of LeBron, I don't know if he donates money to African causes, but I do know that he frequently turns on his personal cash spigot on behalf of various charities and organizations in the Akron area- where he comes from.

A lot of these guys give a lot of their time and money to a lot of causes. Hard to get on their cases for not giving more to Africa, especially since in a lot of cases, there's no way of knowing that money finds its way into the hands of the people who need it.

[jack sommerset]

The Average Black Athlete does not make 10-15 million a year. Are you on crack? Get on a boat and go to Africa if you care so much.

[Armando]

Speaking of LeBron, I don't know if he donates money to African causes, but I do know that he frequently turns on his personal cash spigot on behalf of various charities and organizations in the Akron area- where he comes from.

A lot of these guys give a lot of their time and money to a lot of causes. Hard to get on their cases for not giving more to Africa, especially since in a lot of cases, there's no way of knowing that money finds its way into the hands of the people who need it.


Doubtful the money goes to people that need it.

[Reck]

Are you in Junior High School there buddy? Because you dont seen to know much about..anything.

[Kobayagi]

I'm an Econ major


Is lies!!

[tlongII]

I know if I were in their situations, I'd donate as much as I could to the country where I came from.


Almost all of them came from the USA! I don't think you meant for your statement to sound racist, but it does.

[MrChug]

...I'm an Econ major...-

"I believe the children are our future..." -Whitney Houston

"Crack is whack!" -Whitney Houston

[Fermixalot]

wow....just wow.

The OP is so racist they don't even know it. But where is the mention of Mutombo? He has done so much for charity, I don't know the specifics but I know he donated a lot of money to building hospitals in his native land.

The main point being echoed obviously is that athletes do give back, but to the places they actually come from. LeBron gives to Akron, Tim gives to St. Croix/SA/NC and Deke gives to Africa.

And plus, the rich executives who sign the checks do need to do more and can do more than the athletes, that should be the real focus. Buffet and Gates are a god start. I may not like Microsoft, but you can't find too many faults with what Gates is doing with his foundation. To quote Chris Rock "I'm not talking 'bout rich, I'm talking 'bout wealthy. Shaq is rich, the guy who signs his check is wealthy. If Bill Gates woke up with Oprah's money he'd throw himself out a window."

And I really hope this is a troll post. I don't even want to think about how you got into college with this level of ignorance.

[mfanatic]

The Average Black Athlete does not make 10-15 million a year. Are you on crack? Get on a boat and go to Africa if you care so much.

I would if I were making 15 million a year.

[MrChug]

I would if I were making 15 million a year.

Not even witty. If you're going to try to have a comeback, think a little more. Maybe you're not capable of that as evidenced by your posts so far.A bit of advice:


Don't post on this board anymore.

[Reck]

Not even witty. If you're going to try to have a comeback, think a little more. Maybe you're not capable of that as evidenced by your posts so far.A bit of advice:


Don't post on this board anymore.

You cant tell a guy not to post if you're not the owner of the board. But I'm with you on that this fellow doesn't seen to know what he's talking about.

This is the net, its a board. No need to try to wow us saying he's an economic major. 1 no one cares. 2 He doesn't have the knowledge or skill to be one anyway.

I dont think he even is in college. lol

[YellowFever]

Nevermind that your question was one of the dumbest ever posted here (which is saying alot) but 1 billion...10 billion even 100 billion wouldn't do shit to help your "country" africa.

they gotta start helping themselves, which means setting up education infrastructures, setting up decent farms, etc..etc...
...which alot of athletes and rich people are already helping with (or at least trying).

throwing money into that hell hole is just about the dumbest thing you can do right now. you might as well throw bundles of cash into a bonfire.

[Kobulingam]

To original poster:

Humans are selfish. End of story. I have a relative who fell ass backwords into wealth (not smart nor a hard worker) and still thinks "this is my money, I earned it, why should I help anyone." This is referring to his younger sister, who's down in life (unemployed) and could use a little help. Humans don't realize that many things in life are hugely dependent on luck (talents, how tall you are, how rich your parents were, where you were born, if you got injured or not, random events in life, getting a job interview, whether you graduated with a business degree in 1990s boom years or 2008 ouch!, etc. etc.). Humans who've had a lot of success/wealth on average think "this is all mine, I ain't giving any of it away, I earned it all, why doesn't that Ph.D. in Chemistry who's unemployed just get a job instead of wasting my tax dollars by being on welfare!!!"

Success in everything is probably over 75% luck. When most humans figure that out, then they'll start caring about other people (realizing than maybe the fucking poor kid who grew up in some shitty as place in Africa to shitty as parents, and got a life threatening disease from a mosquito was just UNLUCKY and not because he's lazier or dumber than you are).

[Kobulingam]

Nevermind that your question was one of the dumbest ever posted here (which is saying alot) but 1 billion...10 billion even 100 billion wouldn't do shit to help your "country" africa.

they gotta start helping themselves, which means setting up education infrastructures, setting up decent farms, etc..etc...
...which alot of athletes and rich people are already helping with 9or at least trying).

throwing money into that hell hole is just about the dumbest thing you can do right now. you might as well throw bundles of cash into a bonfire.

Help themselves? Who are you talking about?
Do you know the history of how colonizing powers basically raped Africa? Don't blame Africa's problems on Africans. Say you were just born to some poor-ass African family in some poor-ass place in Africa, would Africa's shittyness be your fault?

[Kobulingam]

Some of the replies to the original poster is much more stupid than the post itself. How is he a racist just because he feels the need to help people in his motherland? Was Oprah a racist for building a school in Africa?

I dont' understand why Oprah built that ONE very very very very very very expensive and luxurious school in Africa, instead of easily building a 100 schools of similar size. She basically built 1 school that's going to make a lucky few get education in luxury.

I think it's because building 100 regular schools would be too much "beneath her." She prefers her name plastered across a school that looked super hype. She could have giving education to wayyyyyy more students with the same amount of money instead of just making a lucky few kids extremely comfortable.

[YellowFever]

Help themselves? Who are you talking about?
Do you know the history of how colonizing powers basically raped Africa? Don't blame Africa's problems on Africans. Say you were just born to some poor-ass African family in some poor-ass place in Africa, would Africa's shittyness be your fault?

tell that to the bleeding hearts.
at least africans didn't kill themsleves on this large a scale when european colonies "raped" them.

Rhodesia was a decent country and i remember visitng it in my youth.
were the africans treated as "2nd class" citizens in their own country?
sure.
did they commit genocide on themselves.
no.

we can talk about this till the cows come home and we won't change each other's mind but fact is africa (i still don't even know which countries we're talking about here...lol) was used and abused by european powers but they gotta grab their bootstraps and catch up to the world rather than celebrating their freedom by killing themselves.

[YellowFever]

I dont' understand why Oprah built that ONE very very very very very very expensive and luxurious school in Africa, instead of easily building a 100 schools of similar size. She basically built 1 school that's going to make a lucky few get education in luxury.

I think it's because building 100 regular schools would be too much "beneath her." She prefers her name plastered across a school that looked super hype. She could have giving education to wayyyyyy more students with the same amount of money instead of just making a lucky few kids extremely comfortable.

she built one very very very very very very very big school because it would make the most news back home. your second paragraph made too much sense for a knee jerk liberal such as oprah.

[Reck]

I dont' understand why Oprah built that ONE very very very very very very expensive and luxurious school in Africa, instead of easily building a 100 schools of similar size. She basically built 1 school that's going to make a lucky few get education in luxury.

I think it's because building 100 regular schools would be too much "beneath her." She prefers her name plastered across a school that looked super hype. She could have giving education to wayyyyyy more students with the same amount of money instead of just making a lucky few kids extremely comfortable.

True that, brother.

Oprah genuinely cares, but she cares more for people to know that it was her that did it.

[diego]

I already forgot most of my University education, but if i remember correctly, the problem isnt raising money for charity (be it domestic, foreign, health, poverty, education, etc), the problem is spending it correctly. "charity and aid" is a billion dollar industry and many times the main beneficiary is NOT the target cause for which people donated their money.

Its the same problem governments and corporations face all the time- you have a handful of people controlling other people's money and the risk of spending it either irresponsibly, or directly for personal gain, is extremely high. integrity and intelligence rarely prevail.

[timvp]

Technically speaking, everyone is from Africa. Trace back your ancestry far enough and you'll reach Africa whether you are black, white, hispanic, Argentine or Johnny Blaze.

Given that, everyone should donating to that "country".

[Obstructed_View]

Shouldn't the white devils who were created by Yakub in Africa be sending money back there as well?

[TDMVPDPOY]

dude you gotto distinguish from black americans to african-americans....theres a difference....

even though there forefathers and roots are from africa, but wtf has africa done for them today? nothing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Nevermind that your question was one of the dumbest ever posted here (which is saying alot) but 1 billion...10 billion even 100 billion wouldn't do shit to help your "country" africa.

they gotta start helping themselves, which means setting up education infrastructures, setting up decent farms, etc..etc...
...which alot of athletes and rich people are already helping with (or at least trying).

throwing money into that hell hole is just about the dumbest thing you can do right now. you might as well throw bundles of cash into a bonfire.

dude they aint setting up shit cause they are either lowly educated or currupted through govt down to the operation workers....where the trickle of money coming down the chain doesnt improve anything.....

hence...wars and shit over own greed, but hey who cares right? as long american and communists brothers can sell arms to these tools and come in to steal there natural resources....

[Obstructed_View]

hence...wars and shit over own greed, but hey who cares right? as long american and communists brothers can sell arms to these tools and come in to steal there natural resources....

So what are you doing about it? I thought not.

[Darrin]

Aright guys/girls, I'm an Econ major and to make things short, I was following news in Africa, obviously they are starving, (as a country), diseases, starvation, etc. Now, obviously your average "joe" can not send millions down to Africa to help support them, because they've got to support themselves.

Now, I'm very curious to see, most, if not all the NBA/NFL superstars happen to be black, not a racist comment, it's just the truth. Now, these guys on average make 10-15 million dollars a year, say that again, 15 million dollars a year. Now, couldn't the likes of Kobe, James, Owens, Shaq, and all of the other superstars that are making millions, why don't they donate approximately 1 million each? IM SURE THEY ALL HAVE OVER 100 million in their bank accounts, so why not donate back to where they came from? I know if I were in their situations, I'd donate as much as I could to the country where I came from.

I'm actually writing a paper on this topic, so any input would be great. Thanks-


Some have and if we count individual causes Dikembe Mutombo and Hakeem Olajuwon have given back to the continent. So econ major, how about an African tax? I mean, we took anyone who looked strong and built the best country in the world. Could we give more of it back? An extra cent on the 1.00?

[sribb43]

Did I really just read what I thought I read

[Kobulingam]

tell that to the bleeding hearts.
at least africans didn't kill themsleves on this large a scale when european colonies "raped" them.

Rhodesia was a decent country and i remember visitng it in my youth.
were the africans treated as "2nd class" citizens in their own country?
sure.
did they commit genocide on themselves.
no.

we can talk about this till the cows come home and we won't change each other's mind but fact is africa (i still don't even know which countries we're talking about here...lol) was used and abused by european powers but they gotta grab their bootstraps and catch up to the world rather than celebrating their freedom by killing themselves.

Not "was" but still are. Western powers still exert UNFAIR trade practices with respect to Africa. They take the "few" natural resources they have and let them kill each other for the little that remainds (oh, and supply every side of the wars with ample weapons too).

It's not Africa's fault that most of their country has SHIT SHIT SHIT land. The only difference between Africans and Arab countires is that Arab countries fluked out with a bunch of fossil fuels and became rich, while Africans got some shitty ass land, with some pockets of good natural resources, which end up being raped by rich powers (diamonds, gold, even uranium). I mean, the least western powers could do is pay the African nations fair prices for the trade we do with them. Ohh how about relieve some of their debt too? They're clearly unable to pay down their debt now, so why hold it over their heads and use it exert economic power over them.

Look at companies like NESTLE. They go down to Somalia and Ethiopoia and force the coffee farmers there to "take it or leave it" and pay them shit for their coffee beans. They can do this because a few big companies control most of the coffee market, and the trade agreements between EU/USA and AFRICA aren't punishing these companies for raping Africa.

[Kobulingam]

True that, brother.

Oprah genuinely cares, but she cares more for people to know that it was her that did it.


I don't think she cares as much as we all think. She likes to squeeze every little bit of publicity out of every little thing she does. Her donating a million to some charity and getting 2 million dollars worth of publicity from it is nothing (considering that original million is nothing compared to what she has).

Her African project clearly had OTHER MOTIVES behind it. She picked a relatively rich African country and built a $40 million dollar 52 acre school with the name "OPRAH WINFREY ____something___ ACADEMY." A 52 acre luxurious school that can only educate 150 girls. The school is RIDICULOUS. It has beauty salons, indoor and outdoor theatres, yoga rooms, etc. $40 millino dollars?

She also made sure she got several million dollars worth of publicity from this school. She made everyone know it. Had camera crews take a tour of all the feautres of this school, etc.

Had she built 100 schools for $40 million, imagine how much less impressive a publicity tour of a school would be? Technically they'd only have to give a tour of one of the schools, and it woudln't have been as impressive.

Oprah doesn't get it. What she has done is what Africa does not need. Africa does not need a FEW citizens getting extremely lucky, it needs more equality. Oprah is making 150 girls in shitty ass africa extremely lucky.... I wish I could punch her in the face.....

[z0sa]

Technically speaking..... FAIL!!! On all levels!!!

It's a totally different animal but I thought first man was discovered in egypt ... isn't that in Africa? Maybe it was in the middle east.

[Indazone]

The OP is now officially too pwn'd and too embarrassed to even respond in this thread anymore lol.

[Obstructed_View]

It's a totally different animal but I thought first man was discovered in egypt ... isn't that in Africa?

Yes.

[YellowFever]

dude they aint setting up shit cause they are either lowly educated or currupted through govt down to the operation workers....where the trickle of money coming down the chain doesnt improve anything.....

hence...wars and shit over own greed, but hey who cares right? as long american and communists brothers can sell arms to these tools and come in to steal there natural resources....

Duh...
isn't that what i basically said?
Or do i need to spell it out to you word for word?

It's stupid to throw money into that situation until THEY change.
It has nothing to do with us as americans buying LCd TV's or Cars with $5,000 woofers in the car.

I'd gladly donate money to some of those countries if I know they got their shit together and won't waste my money on AK-47's.

And what kind of natural resources are you talking about?
stop giving me the generic canned answers that college professor spout to their students and give me some real answers.

[YellowFever]

Not "was" but still are. Western powers still exert UNFAIR trade practices with respect to Africa. They take the "few" natural resources they have and let them kill each other for the little that remainds (oh, and supply every side of the wars with ample weapons too).


The only reason why they get "raped" is because they don't do shit to get themselves organized.

And you should know as well as everyone else that most countries in the world will not hesitate to fuck in the ass any other country if it means making their own country better off.

It's up to them to organize and put up a common front to deal with other countries but they don't.

[SPURS21]

To the OP:

Regardless of your topic you may want to go easy on the commas when you write that paper of yours.

[ClingingMars]

You're main thesis is that black people don't give back enough to a continent we destroyed and stole their ancestors from hundreds of years ago? :rolleyes. Unless you're attending Jerry Falwell's "university", good luck with that.

their ancestors were selling their own people into slavery far before we got there.

also, last time I checked Liberty University IS a university, and degrees there DO count, just as much as a degree from JMU or UVa or UT counts.

-Mars

[MrChug]

You cant tell a guy not to post if you're not the owner of the board. But I'm with you on that this fellow doesn't seen to know what he's talking about.

This is the net, its a board. No need to try to wow us saying he's an economic major. 1 no one cares. 2 He doesn't have the knowledge or skill to be one anyway.

I dont think he even is in college. lol

You're right on everything except the first sentence. I can tell you to go fuck yourself, but unless I'm your hands holding a warm bottle of lube, do you have to do it? No.

I can tell him whatever I want. On that note...mfanatic:


Go fuck yourself too. Maybe you won't post on this board.

[Reck]

I should have said.. And expect him not to post beacuse you said so.

I didn't imply you couldn't say what you wanted to say, just that it isn't really your place to say that.

[MrChug]

I should have said.. And expect him not to post beacuse you said so.

I didn't imply you couldn't say what you wanted to say, just that it isn't really your place to say that.

Then is it my place to say:

shadowflamer go fuck yourself!























I just made it my place.:toast

[mfanatic]

You're right on everything except the first sentence. I can tell you to go fuck yourself, but unless I'm your hands holding a warm bottle of lube, do you have to do it? No.

I can tell him whatever I want. On that note...mfanatic:


Go fuck yourself too. Maybe you won't post on this board.

Oh MrChug, how about you get out of the ghetto in which you probably live in and come visit me with your mother and I'll show you a good fucking.

[Reck]

What mfanatic said.

[Indazone]

I see you down there reading this thread mfanatic. Are you thourougly embarrassed yet? :lol

[mfanatic]

Not necessarily embarrassed, but except for the cursing, I like some of the comments.

[MrChug]

Not necessarily embarrassed, but except for the cursing, I like some of the comments.

I've got one for you fag ("I can't stand the cursing :cry")

Go fuck yourself. It's the only way you'll get some kid.

By the way, I could buy and sell you.

In fact, I bought your mother some time last week for a little while. She was having a sale.

[LnGrrrR]

I smell troll lol.

[mfanatic]

I've got one for you fag ("I can't stand the cursing :cry")

Go fuck yourself. It's the only way you'll get some kid.

By the way, I could buy and sell you.

In fact, I bought your mother some time last week for a little while. She was having a sale.

LMAO, BUY AND SELL ME? Wait up, this is going to be fun. What do you/your parents do? Where do you live? Better yet, whose your associate manager for your black card, you do have a black card, right?

[Bob Lanier]

:lol at an econ major talking shit about a fucking charge card.

[mfanatic]

:lol at an econ major talking shit about a fucking charge card.

You do understand that that "charge card" isn't for everybody right?

[Reggie Miller]

As an Afrikaner, I am both slightly confused by all of the English and potentially offended.

[ElNono]

The players are waiting for the Vatican to sell all the gold they have in the Holy See and use it to help the hungry...

[Reggie Miller]

The players are waiting for the Vatican to sell all the gold they have in the Holy See and use it to help the hungry...

Don't forget the stocks of grain, corn, and dairy products that are purchased and destroyed by the U.S. Guvmint every year to maintain the subsidy and allotment structure.

[balli]

also, last time I checked Liberty University IS a university, and degrees there DO count, just as much as a degree from JMU or UVa or UT counts.

-Mars

Jerry Falwell's university is actually named "Liberty". :lmao:lmao:lmao

I didn't know that when I posted, but man, that just takes the fucking cake doesn't it?

And no, besides in kook-laden, ass-backwards, neocon circles, a degree from there DOES NOT count as much as degree from... well, almost anywhere else including community colleges. Sure it's (Freedom U. (lol) degree) a piece of paper from an accredited institution, but it's also basically a badge that says I'm an irrational, non-thinking, political ideologue, religious fundamentalist, asshole.

-balli

[hater]

I agree they could donate a few tens of thousands each year. That would add up to a nice amount of money. they probably do already...

although many probably spend more in whores and booze

[ElNono]

I agree they could donate a few tens of thousands each year. That would add up to a nice amount of money. they probably do already...

although many probably spend more in whores and booze

Priorities, priorities...