Game Blog: Spurs @ Magic - 12/18/08

[Dex]

Gonna try my luck at this.


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San Antonio Spurs @ Orlando Magic
12-18-08
7:00PM Central Time
TNT

After a disappointing hiccup in a fourth quarter which saw the New Orleans Hornets finish on a 23-8 run, the Spurs don't have much time to dwell on their last loss. Less than 20 hours after the final buzzer sounded in the Big Easy, San Antonio is set to play against a surging Orlando Magic team which sits atop the Southeast Division at 19-6.

Dwight Howard has made every indication that his knee will be ready to play, and Hedo Turkoglu has been an assassin on the court recently. The Spurs will need to get their collective psyches together quick if they hope for a bounce-back victory in Florida.

Game Previews (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112382)

[urunobili]

come on Dex start a winning streak like benefactor's and enigma's! :tu

[dougp]

I was going to start this one - lol. But in the process of selecting refresh, there it was!

[gingerwave]

Time to recover from last night. Let go Spurs.:flag:

[SpursDynasty]

I'm glad we're playing an easy team tonight. After losing last night, this easy W tonight will get us back on track. There isn't anyone on the Magic of All-Star quality. Just take care of business, put the ball in the hoop. Easy W.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

How long until game time?

[duncan228]

Howard's playing.

Gameday: Spurs vs. Magic (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)
By Joe Alexander

The Spurs will try to bounce back in the second game of a back-to-back when they take on the Magic tonight in Orlando. (6 p.m. San Antonio time)

The Spurs had won six straight before running out of offense in the fourth quarter and falling to the Hornets 90-83 on Wednesday night in New Orleans.

This is the first meeting of the season between the Spurs and Magic. They play again Jan. 11 at the AT&T Center.

Last season the Spurs beat the Magic 128-110 at the AT&T Center. Tony Parker led the Spurs with 32 points and nine assists and Manu Ginobili came off the bench and scored 27 points. Dwight Howard had 34 for the Magic.

The Spurs also beat the Magic 107-97 in Orlando. Manu Ginobili led the Spurs with 28 points off the bench and Michael Finley had 24. Dwight Howard had 24 points and 21 rebounds.

Here's the latest on Dwight Howard:

Kyle Hightower, Orlando Sentinel
Magic center Dwight Howard is expected to suit up tonight against the Spurs. Howard has missed the past two games with a sore left knee.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_nothingbutnet/2008/12/howard-will-pla.html

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hey 228! BTW, if I don't see you again before the festive season, Merry Christmas! You are a bright spot around here and I really appreciate your contribution. :)

Game starting in 1/2 an hour?

I'm glad Howard is playing - my fantasy team misses his blocks and boards and points and shooting %. :lol

[duncan228]

Hey 228! BTW, if I don't see you again before the festive season, Merry Christmas! You are a bright spot around here and I really appreciate your contribution. :)

Game starting in 1/2 an hour?

Thanks Ruff. Happy Holidays to you too. :toast

Game starts in just over 2 hours, 8:00 EST.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Thanks. See you in two hours then.

[tomtom]

3's will be raining tonight

[xtremesteven33]

3's will be raining tonight


hopefully from the spurs

[Borosai]

I don't know much, but I know either the Spurs or the Magic will win this game.

Bonner will bounce back with a double-double (maybe).

[dougp]

I don't know much, but I know either the Spurs or the Magic will win this game.

Bonner will bounce back with a double-double (maybe).

John Madden, is that you? :wow

[Borosai]

John Madden, is that you? :wow

Shhh... keep it on the low down.

[Chieflion]

Great test for the Spurs since Dwight Howard is back. The Magic have one of the strongest starting frontcourt in the league with Lewis, Dwight and Turk.They have dead eye shooters all over the floor too. Jameer Nelson has been playing excellent lately. This is not the Orlando Magic of a year ago or two years ago.

[crc21209]

The bitch thing about playing the Magic is that they have not ONE, but TWO long 3 type guys in Hedo & Rashard Lewis which sucks ass for us defending them kinda. But I can see the Spurs pulling this out, I hope lol.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Spurs will bounce back tonight - they will be very pissed off about yesterday.

They will certainly go inside more often - this team can't win consistently unless it drives the ball.

I'm still happy with 21-1 about us winning the championship. Anyone else want that bet, go here:

http://www.acttab.com.au/interbet/racing?type=sport

Hell, I'm tempted to have a little side-bet on NO at 17-1...

What are we in Vegas? I'm searching but keep getting crappy sites that only display today's games.

[Charles Sappa]

Goooooooooood night everybody.....

Don´t Worry spurs win by 10. Easy Victory....

Go Spurs Go

Believe Believe just Believe

[duncan228]

Always fun to hear Barkley yell Ginobili.

[Reck]

Time for some vindication Spurs. Make things right for last night's debacle.

[phyzik]

That look on Chucks face when the shoes where flying at him was priceless. :lmao:lmao

They had some cool stories too if anyone didnt hear them here's one Chuck said...

he went to say hi to Kareem for the first time ever, Kareem was reading a book in the corner. chuck walks up and says "Hi, Mr. Jabaar, I just wanted to come by and say hello." Kareem just looked up at him then without saying a word went back to reading his book. :lol

[Rohirrim]

Wow Matt Bonner getting camera time on TNT pre-show.

[Spur-Addict]

Time to go to work.

[urunobili]

Wow Matt Bonner getting camera time on TNT pre-show.

just in case they didn't welcome you b4... Welcome to the board :toast

[dougp]

ROFLMAO - did anyone see DHow caressing the ball like he was trying to make love to it when they showed the lineups?

[Spurs Brazil]

TD bank

[Spurs Brazil]

Finley miss WIDE open

Mason forced that shot

[Rohirrim]

Duncan has the paint in LOCKDOWN.

[Spurs1234]

spurs look crisp again on the offensive side:bang

[Rohirrim]

Bonner 3.

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner 333333333333

[Borosai]

Yeah, Bonner's fine (meaning he was begging for the ball, and didn't think twice about shooting it).

[Spur-Addict]

LMAO@Bonner knocking over Lewis

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I hate the way Tim is pausing. He has been playing so well on offence this season because he's catching and immediately shooting or attacking. When he pauses, he screws up. ATTACK Tim!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Of course Bonner's fine. He's a pro, not a China doll, and he's finally found his feet on this team. Enjoy his prosperity, he will eventually go through a shooting slump.

[exstatic]

An Ime sighting in the 1st Q?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

WTF???

First Bonner throws a 10ft high pass then Manu gives it away?

Bloody hell.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Not a good start. They look confused, like the 4th Q yesterday.

[boutons_]

Majik shooting 28% and have the lead.

Spurs look completely disinterested

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

What is with Tony? He's not attacking the rim at all.

[timaios]

Awful !

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Jesus, and then our best play is Ime off a curl from 20ft!? Pulease.

[kace]

What is with Tony? He's not attacking the rim at all.

and he can't buy a basket :cuss

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Bloody terrible... they look totally discombobulated.

[crc21209]

Ok Pop enough with the Ime experiment geez. We look like complete crap especially Tony Parker, get him out! lol

[boutons_]

Spurs now shooting 28% and are behind.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

and he can't buy a basket :cuss

...because for him it all starts at the rim. He makes a layup or two, and suddenly defenders have to lay off him, which opens up his jumper.

I'm wondering if he's injured because, except for a couple of short periods, he looked pretty bad yesterday too (and he usually steps it up for Paul).

[Reck]

Magic are wack. They are only leading because the Spurs are sucking more right now.

They'll get their shit together by half time.

[hoopdreams11]

we need PJ to draw up some offensive sets

[td4mvp21]

Small ball the rest of the game it looks like.

[Josepatches_]

He's not injured.Howard is in the paint.That's all.

First layup was the first block

[Josepatches_]

Hill has to play more time.He deserves it

[Spurs Brazil]

Great play Hill

Magic up 19-13 after one

[sonic21]

13 points wow

[Reck]

LOL 13 points.

[024]

george hill!

[Borosai]

This game looks like yesterday's game.

[Capt Bringdown]

Something's wrong with this team.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

WTF is wrong with the Spurs? A complete inability to score in the 4th last night. Now another complete inability to score in the 1st. Have they all gone on vacation?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Gotta love George, he's unshakeable.

The rest of the team is biting though... Manu can't buy it, Tony looks a step slow, and Timmy is hesitant. The signs are concerning, but thankfully there's 3 Qs left.

[Chieflion]

Let Hill run plays. You know you wanna see it.

[xtremesteven33]

Udoka has no business on the floor right now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

He's not injured.Howard is in the paint.That's all.

First layup was the first block

Can't agree. Tony isn't getting past anyone. He's always going to face a centre down low, but when he's fully fit he still finds a way to finish.

Either he has a niggling injury, or his head is elsewhere...

[duncan228]

Hill has to play more time.He deserves it

Are you the same Josepatches as the other poster with that name?

[Spurs1234]

hill always looks solid, makes things happen....man, it would be great if someone could take it to the hole with some authority.

[Dex]

Let's forget that first quarter just happened.

Get it together, Spurs.

[Spurs Brazil]

Thomas can't make a shot

[Reck]

Spurs will get blow the fuck out of Orlando.

[Spurs1234]

this is hard to watch, well, the spurs i think are better than last year, but not good enough to prevent these scoring funks from occurring.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

For fucksake, they've fallen in love with the jumper again. GET TO THE RACK!

Hill, Ginobili and Mason can all drive, why aren't they???

[Spurs Brazil]

Mason Jr J!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

Mason Jr again!!

[Reck]

That Lee fuck kicked the ball.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Dammit Mason, you let him have that. His play has really declined with his minutes - he might be one of those guys who need to be a focus to really produce (like he did for the first 10 games).

Fuck, we look really bad.

[Budkin]

Damn Spurs startin out like trash... not good.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Nearly gave away the OKC game, gave away the NO game, same again today. WTF is going on?

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[Reck]

Spurs cant go the whole game like this. They'll make their run sooner or later.

Is iether that or Magic will make history tonight winning by 100 points.

[td4mvp21]

Blah :pctoss

[z0sa]

Mason Jr keep shooting. Hes the one who needed 15 shots last night ...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This is painful to watch. Are these guys pro basketballers? I could do a better job right now.

[Reck]

Bonner definately blows.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

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And the problem - NOTHING IN THE PAINT!

Fuck the jumpshot, we have to force it inside and play inside-out, or we will lose for certain.

Why the fuck are we relying on jumpshooting?

[atxrocker]

at least last nights game was fun to watch..

[024]

so sad to see duncan not getting any help at all inside.

[Reck]

Freethrows

There is a reason why they are call that.

[Josepatches_]

And the problem - NOTHING IN THE PAINT!

Fuck the jumpshot, we have to force it inside and play inside-out, or we will lose for certain.

Why the fuck are we relying on jumpshooting?

Yesterday and tonight we had 2 big great defensive players inside.That's the reason

[boutons_]

Spurs suck

[hoopdreams11]

Tony looks like he is going through the motions

[Quiet Strength]

Duncan is playing like bonner did last night

[kace]

WOW. Tony sucks. Manu sucks. Tim is owned by Howard. looks bad now.

[dirk4mvp]

Evans 333333333333333333333333333333333333333

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Horrible.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

No driving. No crisp passing. No movement. No offense.

Late help. Poor rotations. Wide open shooters. No defence.

Really glad I stayed home to watch this dross... :pctoss

[Reck]

This is funny.

Spurs are definately not winning this game. No way in hell are they gonna catch up to 17+ points.

Spurs should miss the playoffs this year.

[024]

no driving + no second bigman in the inside equals no interior presence other than duncan.

[Duncan2177]

Tim is playing like shit, WTF is up with Tim?

[Spur-Addict]

It's early yet, they look half awake though.

[holcs50]

man i hate the damn lineup with bowen and finley in at the same time....with mason and george now we should never have that many old guys out there at once. stupid

and yea i agree this looks like one of those games they play half awake. no energy at all-at least last night they had energy-their shots just weren't falling. Tonight they just look like they dont give a fuck

[tony09manu]

It's like this every year...offensive droughts. WHY? Other teams don't have this problem consistently...

[Rohirrim]

What a waste of jet fuel.

[crc21209]

Well thats what happens when you play your ass of last night and lose then get in at 3 a.m to play again today tired as shit. Fuck this shit. Add on Orlando hasnt played in about 2 days.

[Dex]

When it comes down to it, these guys are paid to put a fucking ball in a fucking hole.

And it's not the defense that's stopping that right now.

Spurs need to start earning their gottamn paychecks.

[mVp]

Tim is playing like shit, WTF is up with Tim?

They're all playing like shit...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Yesterday and tonight we had 2 big great defensive players inside.That's the reason

:rolleyes No shit, Captain Obvious.

That's no reason not to attack the paint. You're trying to tell me that just because the other team has a good defensive centre we have to rely on the jumpshot? GTFOH!

There are ways to get the centre out of position - cutters, movement in general. Run the cutters through, get the guy out of position, drive it down his throat. That's what we usually do, and we thrive on it. our success is largely based around Manu and TP finishing around the rim against anyone and everyone. Not right now though.

[bbarry]

manu is looking like trash. I haven't really seen him do anything manu-like since the first or second game since his return.

[Spurs1234]

spurs are still missing another piece, not sure what the heck it is, but they are missing something...should still be a pretty solid team though.

[Duncan2177]

And the problem - NOTHING IN THE PAINT!

Fuck the jumpshot, we have to force it inside and play inside-out, or we will lose for certain.

Why the fuck are we relying on jumpshooting?

Because Poop told his team to shoot jumpshots and he told Tim to just shoot the ball because Tim is fragile.

[Reck]

These idiot Spurs are now hesitating to shoot the 3. Nothing is working so you might as well jack up 3s. Losers

[td4mvp21]

This SUCKS

[duncan228]

I don't get how a couple of off games in December mean they should miss the Playoffs. The Spurs are known to play their best ball after the RRT. Why should this year be any different? Now is the time to go through the kinks, have off nights, give into exhaustion on back-to-backs.

This team has always pulled it together when it matters. I have no doubt that they'll be a different team in the Spring. Believe.

[td4mvp21]

28th in points in the paint. That's awful dude.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Pts in paint 16-6 to Magic.

Why? Timmy isn't a great defensive centre?

We are just playing like shit is all.

[Capt Bringdown]

I'm starting to wonder if there's not locker room problems.

[Rohirrim]

I don't get how a couple of off games in December mean they should miss the Playoffs. The Spurs are known to play their best ball after the RRT. Why should this year be any different? Now is the time to go through the kinks, have off nights, give into exhaustion on back-to-backs.

This team has always pulled it together when it matters. I have no doubt that they'll be a different team in the Spring. Believe.


The problem....we saw these same scoring droughts throughout last season and guess what....they were STILL there in the playoffs.


The Spurs only have 80 games to constantly work on getting to the Lakers/Celtics level. If they aren't improving and ADDRESSING these problems now they will NOT BE READY.

:depressed

ONE season to integrate Mason and Hill SMOOTHLY into INTENSE play. That is not easy and they cannot afford to slack off any game.

[Reck]

I don't get how a couple of off games in December mean they should miss the Playoffs. The Spurs are known to play their best ball after the RRT. Why should this year be any different? Now is the time to go through the kinks, have off nights, give into exhaustion on back-to-backs.

This team has always pulled it together when it matters. I have no doubt that they'll be a different team in the Spring. Believe.

Are you watching this game or what?

We are losing by like 30 points to Orlando.

[Budkin]

Can't watch this garbage... looks like a whole game like the 4th quarter of last night. Next...

[holcs50]

this is fuckin funny-im way over getting upset about this game. They didn't come to play , period. If it was me id put Hill in and mason and just let em go to work on offense. Hill only played 13 mins. last night-he needs more time , wtf.

[Capt Bringdown]

Bench Manu until he can get his act together. He's playing like an ass.

[Kriz-Maxima]

Are you watching this game or what?

We are losing by like 30 points to Orlando.

Orlando is a good team and its only 20 points coming off a back to back.

No need to overreact.

[sonic21]

pathetic Tony and Manu are sucking so bad

[InK]

Bonner is shooting 100% !!!


This is going to be painful to watch.

[Chieflion]

Are you watching this game or what?

We are losing by like 30 points to Orlando.

Get back to reality, Orlando has become much better since the year before. To add on, they were battling injuries to their backcourt for the past few games.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

There's no cutter movement and no crisp passing. They are all trying to force it. Get back to the fundamentals and play some motion offence.

On D, put in some effort for fucksake. Most of Orlando's lead is from open 3pt shooters, which is an absolute no-no in our system.

I hope Pop gives these guys a blast at half time because they deserve it.

[sonic21]

less than 30 points at halftime?

[tony09manu]

It worries me because this is about as bad as i've ever seen them play and I've been optimistic this entire season that we'd pull through...not going to watch them if they play like this.

I am pretty much losing any and all hope, but it's still there.

[Josepatches_]

Pts in paint 16-6 to Magic.

Why? Timmy isn't a great defensive centre?

We are just playing like shit is all.

Timmy with Parker,Manu,Hill and Finley???

It sounds like Timmy against the world in the paint

[kace]

pathetic Tony and Manu are sucking so bad

manu tries and does his careless usual bs. tony isn't even trying

[EvaLongoria]

I'm starting to wonder if there's not locker room problems.

I think thats the reason. They have some personal problems we dont know about. I suspect some jealous, or some personalities colliding.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

See that blocked TP layup? He has no explosion whatsoever.

[Rohirrim]

I hope Splitter is tearing it up tonight at the clubs.

[Reck]

Get back to reality, Orlando has become much better since the year before. To add on, they were battling injuries to their backcourt for the past few games.

No better then the Spurs.

Spurs shouldn't be losing this game to this scrub team. So they got abit better..Spurs should win 98% of the games they play against this team. Now they get blow out.:toast

[SuperManu!!!]

Can parker pass the ball?

[duncan228]

I'm watching, and I agree they're playing like shit. But better now than Spring.

And they addressed the offensive draughts somewhat, Mason has firepower, so does Hill. The chemistry will be there, the RRT always solidifies it.

They're going to lose, they're going to have shit nights. But I believe they will come together at the right time. Venting is good, calling them out is good. Giving up on your team isn't my style. I'm a fan even when they play like this.

[holcs50]

LMFAO-wow 29 points at half-its like old times, yay

[z0sa]

Our shots are not falling.

[sonic21]

Can parker pass the ball?

can manu make a pass?

[sonic21]

29 points at halftime just wow

[kace]

See that blocked TP layup? He has no explosion whatsoever.

he missed some layups he never misses last games. weird.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

TP is sick, injured or having a spat with Eva. That was pathetic - 2 open court layups he would usually gobble up and he gets blocked on both.

And what's with all this shitty pnr for 20ft jumpers? How about some MOTION? Have you seen any today? I haven't.

[magui86770]

Wow...big three only 5 for 27..Parker 1 for 10...ugly.

[justinandimcool]

I'm done getting upset over games this time of year. If they're saving their energy for May and June, then I will too.

[Darthkiller]

tp 1-10, td 2-7... killing my fantasy team

[kace]

Wow...big three only 5 for 27..Parker 1 for 10...ugly.

5 for 24 i think. still ugly

[Reck]

I'm watching, and I agree they're playing like shit. But better now than Spring.

And they addressed the offensive draughts somewhat, Mason has firepower, so does Hill. The chemistry will be there, the RRT always solidifes it.

They're going to lose, they're going to have shit nights. But I believe they will come together at the right time. Venting is good, calling them out is good. Giving up on your team isn't my style. I'm a fan even when they play like this.

I'm with you for the most part but its always easiest to lose faith then to keep it.

Even more so when they are playing this bad. I dont remember them playing this bad..ever.

[crc21209]

I think thats the reason. They have some personal problems we dont know about. I suspect some jealous, or some personalities colliding.


lol get real. They were on a 6 game winning streak and finally lose last night and are losing on a 2nd night of a back 2 back and u think their are chemistry problems. Riiight. Anyway, EVERYONE looks flat as hell. Tony, Manu, Tim, even Mason on that last jumper. Theyre tired as fuck. This shit is gonna happen, of course. It happens to every team. Its December everyone, chill the fuck out lol. We all know this teams kicks it up in February, March, April.

[Ice009]

Well I just got home and what did I say yesterday about TP stinking it up.

Everyone jumped on me in that thread I started. LOL How is TP doing tonight? Is his defense porous again? Like Ruff said if he is not sick or injured this is absolutely pathetic from TP.

Manu looks like crap too.

How is the defense doing tonight?

How is Michael Finley playing tonight? Is he getting a ton of minutes again?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think even Steve Nash could lock Parker down tonight.

[EvaLongoria]

They are having personal problems in the locker room. I suspect some jealous. Or maybe some players have heard they will be traded very soon, so the fire is off.

[Budkin]

They need to just sit the big 3 for the rest of the game... they obviously are not up for playing tonight.

[peskypesky]

Barkley cracks me up!

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs are not an elite team this year. I knew there was problems when they had trouble putting away the worst team in the league. It's not really all that surprising to see them getting killed by the quality ball clubs. Spurs are going to bs 5-8 vs .500 teams after tonight.

[greens]

That's like the worst game in a while for the Big Three.

Check out their half time stats:

Tony: 18:30 min, 1-10 FG, -12, 1 Reb, 1 Assist, 1 TO, 2 pts
Tim: 15:51 min, 2-7 FG, -18, 4 Reb, 2 Assists, 5 pts
Manu: 14:59 min, 2-7 FG, -10, 5 Reb, 0 Assists, 2 TO, 5pts


They ALL look exhausted. No energy at all.

[peskypesky]

Spurs are pooped out from last night...they ain't winning tonight

[clooneyschick04]

I'm watching, and I agree they're playing like shit. But better now than Spring.

And they addressed the offensive draughts somewhat, Mason has firepower, so does Hill. The chemistry will be there, the RRT always solidifies it.

They're going to lose, they're going to have shit nights. But I believe they will come together at the right time. Venting is good, calling them out is good. Giving up on your team isn't my style. I'm a fan even when they play like this.

:tu

I'm right there with you! :)

[timaios]

That loss against the Hornets has fucked their mind !

[benefactor]

Pretty horrible half. TP/TD/Manu all three look like crap. Manu is forcing too much and Parker looks like he ran a 10K before tipoff. Hopefully Pop gives them hell in the locker room and we find some rhythm in the second half.

[holcs50]

I'm done getting upset over games this time of year. If they're saving their energy for May and June, then I will too.

Totally agree-smartest post ive seen in awhile :toast

[kace]

Well I just got home and what did I say yesterday about TP stinking it up.

Everyone jumped on me in that thread I started. LOL How is Tp doing tonight?

How is the defense doing tonight?

How is Michael Finley playing tonight? Is he getting a ton of minutes again?

if you keep bashing tony every single game he has, you'll be right sometimes, no doubt about it. enjoy it tonight.

[sonic21]

Well I just got home and what did I say yesterday about TP stinking it up.

Everyone jumped on me in that thread I started. LOL How is Tp doing tonight?

How is the defense doing tonight?

How is Michael Finley playing tonight? Is he getting a ton of minutes again?

and like yesterday : everybody sucks, not just tony

[crc21209]

They are having personal problems in the locker room. I suspect some jealous. Or maybe some players have heard they will be traded very soon, so the fire is off.

lol. You got some serious personal problems thinking the Spurs have personal problems. They never have, never will.

[Rohirrim]

Signing Finley is good, name a better 3rd string SG. He won't get starter minutes anymore. This won't keep the team stagnant.

[crc21209]

Personal problems dont cause the whole damn team to brick up jump shot after jump shot.

[loveforthegame]

Only Hill and Mason look good so far.

Everyone else is missing open shots, forcing shots, turning it over, getting caught on screens, or mixing up defensive assignments.

They look rushed and confused out there.

[peskypesky]

I'm watching, and I agree they're playing like shit. But better now than Spring.

And they addressed the offensive draughts somewhat, Mason has firepower, so does Hill. The chemistry will be there, the RRT always solidifies it.

They're going to lose, they're going to have shit nights. But I believe they will come together at the right time. Venting is good, calling them out is good. Giving up on your team isn't my style. I'm a fan even when they play like this.

:toast

you're right...even though i don't think they can win tonight, maybe they will...and further, this is regular season...shouldn't get TOO worked up about a regular season loss... right?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm watching, and I agree they're playing like shit. But better now than Spring.

And they addressed the offensive draughts somewhat, Mason has firepower, so does Hill. The chemistry will be there, the RRT always solidifies it.

They're going to lose, they're going to have shit nights. But I believe they will come together at the right time. Venting is good, calling them out is good. Giving up on your team isn't my style. I'm a fan even when they play like this.

Who is giving up? ;)

I'm trying to work out what's wrong, because 5 games ago they were clicking on all fronts.

Looks to me like:
(1) TP is sick or injured
(2) Manu is forcing things
(3) Timmy is getting swamped because of 1 and 2
(4) a number of role players (Mason, Finley particularly) have lost their rhythm in their reduced roles
(5) the whole team is tired from a road b2b.

[Rohirrim]

Who cares about regular season blah blah blah.


But should you care that the Spurs keep doing the same thing that doesn't work? They are nothing but a shooting team.

[Russ]

Observation -- Hedo is a double digit scorer.

When Hedo's team is ahead by double digits, or behind by double digits, he's a scorer.

[Josepatches_]

We were better in the last minutes with Tim in the bench.That's Amazing.
Only down by 15!

now hope Pop sits TP too.He deserves it more than Tim.

Duncan has an excuse.He's fighting with Howard away in a back to back game

[ploto]

How are the Spurs 28th in the NBA this season in Points in the Paint?

[peskypesky]

it does seem weird that suddenly, the ENTIRE team can't shoot

[Ice009]

Spurs are pooped out from last night...they ain't winning tonight

So how exactly are the Spurs going to win a game if they are tired or "pooped" as you said? The Schedule is going to get a lot tougher with lots of road games and back to back games coming up in the next month or two. Every team plays a back to back. That's not good enough.

Are the Spurs just going to toss in the towel and lose all those games? That is NO EXCUSE whatsoever. If it's because of old age that is on Pop and the front office for not bringing more youth in. You can't use that as an excuse either.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Gotta love Chuck! Sad thing is he is right, most fans don't know sheeeit...

CWebb isn't bad on TV. I think I like him more than Magic...

[crc21209]

:toast

you're right...even though i don't think they can win tonight, maybe they will...and further, this is regular season...shouldn't get TOO worked up about a regular season loss... right?


I'm with ya'll, Us as fans didnt have to play last night get in at 3 a.m the next day and play a game at night as well. Every single guy on this team is not 20 years old. So of course being tired is going to be apart of the game. But dont blame just TD, just Fin, just Manu, just TP. THE WHOLE TEAM is sucking it up tonight. But for every bad game the Spurs have, they come back with 10 GREAT games as a whole, and us as a fan base of the Spurs have come to be really spoiled. We're not the damn Charlotte Bobcats or Oklahoma City Thunder. We are a damn championship caliber team and we all know it isnt a sprint, it is a marathon. We will be there in the end, we always are, and deep down no matter how pissed we all get about a game in December, we know where they'll be in the end where it counts, AT THE TOP. Believe. :flag: :lobt2:

[peskypesky]

How are the Spurs 28th in the NBA this season in Points in the Paint?

cause manu and tony have been injured...and tim is the only post player who can score in the paint....bonner scores from outside

[Trainwreck2100]

Hopefully decided to play good now that they got their shitty half of the night out of the way

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

it does seem weird that suddenly, the ENTIRE team can't shoot

For open shots (like last night), sure, but a lot of it tonight is that they are taking poor shots. There is very little off the ball movement or passing, so they are playing a very one-out game. That is the sign of a tired team, as is the fact that they haven't closed out on the 3pt shooters.

[ploto]

I'm trying to work out what's wrong, because 5 games ago they were clicking on all fronts.

They were playing bad teams. I tried to tell people who got so excited about the victory over Dallas that that is no longer a valid measure against which to compare your team. The Spurs beat Golden State, Minnesota and Oklahoma City! Yippee.

[peskypesky]

But for every bad game the Spurs have, they come back with 10 GREAT games as a whole, and us as a fan base of the Spurs have come to be really spoiled. We're not the damn Charlotte Bobcats or Oklahoma City Thunder.

And we can beat those teams!! Barely. :(

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Observation -- Hedo is a double digit scorer.

When Hedo's team is ahead by double digits, or behind by double digits, he's a scorer.

:lmao:rollin:lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

For open shots (like last night), sure, but a lot of it tonight is that they are taking poor shots. There is very little off the ball movement or passing, so they are playing a very one-out game. That is the sign of a tired team, as is the fact that they haven't closed out on the 3pt shooters.

....and Orlando playing great defense.

[spurastic]

Go Spurs Go!!!!

[crc21209]

They were playing bad teams. I tried to tell people who got so excited about the victory over Dallas that that is no longer a valid measure against which to compare your team. The Spurs beat Golden State, Minnesota and Oklahoma City! Yippee.


So what do u know Mr. Pacer man? lol. You also forgot to mention that this team beat the shit out of a Denver team IN Denver that is playing some damn good basketball.

[Reck]

Meh I'm skipping the second half. Gonna go play some rock band 2.

[Rohirrim]

Meh I'm skipping the second half. Gonna go play some rock band 2.


And then come back after the loss to bitch about how horrible Bonner was in the 2nd half. :lol

[spursfan09]

DAmn wtf!? only 29 pts?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd start Hill/Money/Bruce/Matt/Tim in the second half, and ask he and Money to create.

Give TP a short burst mid-quarter and see if he has anything to offer. Rotate Manu in to rest money. Live or die.

[Allanon]

Gotta love Chuck! Sad thing is he is right, most fans don't know sheeeit...

CWebb isn't bad on TV. I think I like him more than Magic...

CWebb is easily a much better TV personality than Magic.

[Reck]

And then come back after the loss to bitch about how horrible Bonner was in the 2nd half. :lol

LULZ@you.

I dont care for Bonner, never did, never will.:toast

[Rohirrim]

If the Spurs don't break 60 they should get a 2 game suspension.


Shit, Spurs should be tenured into the playoffs for the remainder of TD's career anyways.

[MoSpur]

He will score 20+ in the second half of tonight's game and the Spurs will win a fairly close game.

That is all.

:flag:

[ploto]

So what do u know Mr. Pacer man? lol. You also forgot to mention that this team beat the shit out of a Denver team IN Denver that is playing some damn good basketball.

Right after they lost to Detroit by double digits. They had one good game in the month of December.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Who won the coaching poll?

[peskypesky]

....and Orlando playing great defense.

they're playing pretty good d...but spurs have just stunk it up tonight with horrible shooting...they've missed a ton of wide-open ones...and they're just playing with no fire

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

They were playing bad teams. I tried to tell people who got so excited about the victory over Dallas that that is no longer a valid measure against which to compare your team. The Spurs beat Golden State, Minnesota and Oklahoma City! Yippee.

I said 5 games ago - Atlanta, Dallas, GS, Denver. Two of those teams are good, one is average, one very poor.

The difference is they were passing crisply, cutting hard and locking down on D on crucial possessions.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Look how static they are - everyone's just standing around.

[Ice009]

Alright send Parker home right now.

[Ice009]

I want Hill out there the rest of the game.

Cya later Tony.

[peskypesky]

Spurs look like a Senior League team tonight. :(

[ILoveOranges]

Did anyone else hear Duncan yell "That's a fucking foul!"?

:wow

[peskypesky]

jesus. NOBODY can buy a shot.

[Rohirrim]

LOL parker doesn't even look to shoot and the teams settles for a Duncan miss 3 feet further away.

[loveforthegame]

Is Parker even interested in playing defense?

Finley was at least looking to pass instead of forcing shots.

[Ice009]

That is FUCKING GUTLESS PLAY.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This game is done. Bring in the garbage players.

[peskypesky]

this is looking awful. horrible. depressing. pathetic.

[peskypesky]

This game is done. Bring in the garbage players.

which ones are they? it's hard to tell tonight.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

LOL parker doesn't even look to shoot and the teams settles for a Duncan miss 3 feet further away.

Yeah, I thought that was funny too... in a sad way... :lol

[tomtom]

ugly game :/

[Ice009]

The was about 3 Spurs closer to that loose ball. Unbelievable.

[Rohirrim]

This Eastwood movie looks good.

[mVp]

Embarrassing... fucking embarrassing....

[Budkin]

This will be the worst game of the regular season hands down. Sucks that it comes against my other favorite team. I wanted a good game and a Spurs win.

[hoopdreams11]

put the reserves in so no one gets hurt

[EvaLongoria]

im gonna play Call of Duty 4. I need to kill some kids, making a massacre. Spurs aren't a team right now. They are just standing up the court, watching the clock running down waiting for the 0:00 buzzer. I smell some drastic serious trades before January.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

which ones are they? it's hard to tell tonight.

Let's see, how about Oberto Udoka and Finley, and everyone else can just sit around. They obviously need the rest. :lol

[peskypesky]

Spurs shooting -27%.

That's awesome.

[Ice009]

Are you using ILP Ruff?

I signed up for a free day pass and so far it seems pretty good.

[Rohirrim]

Yeah, I thought that was funny too... in a sad way... :lol

My thinking:


Alright cool, Pop told them to only look for high percentage shots...


....


wtf???

[DubMcDub]

Spurs may or may not win this, but they come back and this thing ends up being a 5 or so point game at the end either way. They're gonna start hitting some shots.

[Darthkiller]

Did anyone else hear Duncan yell "That's a fucking foul!"?

:wow

yeah i was like wow did he seriously say that

[peskypesky]

This Eastwood movie looks good.

vomit

[Avitus1]

This Eastwood movie looks good.

+1

[peskypesky]

Spurs may or may not win this, but they come back and this thing ends up being a 5 or so point game at the end either way. They're gonna start hitting some shots.

i wish.

[peskypesky]

Now the wrestler movie with Mickey Rourke, that looks cool.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

im gonna play Call of Duty 4. I need to kill some kids, making a massacre. Spurs aren't a team right now. They are just standing up the court, watching the clock running down waiting for the 0:00 buzzer. I smell some drastic serious trades before January.

:lol

Over-reaction, much? They are obviously exhausted.

We are one big away from going deep in the playoffs. That big will be Mahinmi.

[Allanon]

This Eastwood movie looks good.

Valkyrie with Tom Cruise looks even more bad-ass.

[bigdog]

Well..........what a game......

[BlackSwordsMan]

:wakeup

[Josepatches_]

One more brick for Tony

[Josepatches_]

Manu!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Are you using ILP Ruff?

I signed up for a free day pass and so far it seems pretty good.

Yup. When it works it's fantastic.


Spurs may or may not win this, but they come back and this thing ends up being a 5 or so point game at the end either way. They're gonna start hitting some shots.

Are you watching this game? No way. They are so tired their shots are hardly making the rim. Only way we get back in this game is a 1/100 stellar performance by the end of the bench.

[word]

When the announcer is prefacing his play by play calls with the age of the players...

So, the Spurs are tired.....in December.

Well that's disconcerting....

[Josepatches_]

who can guard Nelson?? Why is Hill in the bench instead Tony?

[holcs50]

im still wondering why hill hasnt been playing more-its obvious parker is WAY off

[Ice009]

What's the Eastwood movie about?

Why is TP still on the court??????

[Rohirrim]

Valkyrie with Tom Cruise looks even more bad-ass.


I know a guy who was the great nephew of one of the German Generals who tried to assassinate Hitler. The movie sent his family a letter asking if they could use the guys name. Pretty wild.

It should be a good movie :toast

[Russ]

The Spurs have absolutely no movement without the ball on offense.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

38pts in 2 1/2 quarters... :lmao

[ploto]

I am sick of hearing the excuse that the Spurs are so tired because of a back-to-back. New Orleans was on the second game of a back-to-back last night and beat a rested Spurs team.

[Rohirrim]

Wow that was just a low blow LOL

[Ice009]

Hill needs court time. WHy doesn't he get any?

Pop needs to be thinking about the long run here. That is stupid IMO.

What, is Pop showcasing TP for a trade or something? ;)

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The Spurs have absolutely no movement without the ball on offense.

Yup, I must've pointed that out at least 6 times already.

[Rohirrim]

That's going to make a nice poster.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I can't remeber the last time TP was this sloppy.

[EvaLongoria]

STOP the motherfucking jumpshots !!! STOP It STOP it for God sakes!!!!!!!!!!!

[holcs50]

TD=complete garbage tonight-like the my garbage after i forget to take it out some weeks

[peskypesky]

I know a guy who was the great nephew of one of the German Generals who tried to assassinate Hitler. The movie sent his family a letter asking if they could use the guys name. Pretty wild.

It should be a good movie :toast

i work with a guy whose uncle was involved. i think he was executed.

[phxspurfan]

Keep grinding away Spurs. The more viewers tune out the better chance you have...