Best player in the NBA- Lebron or Kobe?

[The_Game]

Obviously no one else is really up for disussion well maybe Wade.....

who is the best?

[lefty]

LBJ can make a team better.

Kobe? Not necessarily

[monosylab1k]

This question was already answered during the Olympics.

LeBron, Kobe, Wade.....they all might look like equals 99% of the time. But then that moment comes where Spain gets within a point and the team starts wondering if they're going to be the biggest basketball failures of all time. And when that moment comes, Kobe rises up and carries the team to a gold medal while LeBron and Wade enjoy the ride.

Kobe is still the best in the game.

[balli]

I like Kobe more. This is the first year I'd say LeBron is better, mainly because his defense has improved.

[IronMexican]

LeBron is definitely the better player this year. It looks like Kobe might finally be the second best player. If LeBron keeps this play up the entire year, no doubt in my mind he is the best.

[sook]

Kobe is still #1...just his whole approach to the game now, his stats might not be like they used to but i would have to say he's playing a whole lot better. He is getting everyone involved and when they call upon him, he shows up. Even though they lost to the pacers by a point i remember this point in the game where when the Lakers started to struggle in the 3rd Kobe just stepped on the gas and scored something like 17 points in a row, just every type of skillset possible, from the inside/outside, self alleyoop.

One thing holding me back on Lebron is just his whack jumper. If he improves it i will go out on a limb and say he would shoot over 50%

[Allanon]

This question was already answered during the Olympics.

LeBron, Kobe, Wade.....they all might look like equals 99% of the time. But then that moment comes where Spain gets within a point and the team starts wondering if they're going to be the biggest basketball failures of all time. And when that moment comes, Kobe rises up and carries the team to a gold medal while LeBron and Wade enjoy the ride.

Kobe is still the best in the game.

I can't believe it was monosylab1k that posted this but he's right and I gotta give him props for that.

Kobe hadn't done jack through the Olympics but with the game on the line, who do you go to? And he delivered too.

LeBron is better than Kobe at some things but as Charles says, Kobe is still Kyra Sedgwick

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[dbreiden83080]

Obviously no one else is really up for disussion well maybe Wade.....

who is the best?

I'll take Duncan over both of them..

[balli]

I'll take Duncan over both of them..

:rolleyes

[monosylab1k]

I can't believe it was monosylab1k that posted this but he's right and I gotta give him props for that.

I love Kobe's game. I just hate when people try to put him anywhere near the same level as Jordan, because he's not.

[dirk4mvp]

LeBron is playing at an entirely different level this year.

[dbreiden83080]

:rolleyes

Yeah your right, because both those guys have just led their teams to so much glory.. :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

[dbreiden83080]

I love Kobe's game. I just hate when people try to put him anywhere near the same level as Jordan, because he's not.

The ass kicking he got by Pierce in the finals put a final nail in the MJ comparisons coffin..

[Donnie Nelson]

Trick question, neither of them are.

The answer is a 14-way tie between Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, JJ Barea, Erick Dampier, DeSagana Diop, Brandon Bass, Gerald Green, Antoine Wright, Shawne Williams, Devean George, James Singleton, and Jerry Stackhouse.

We love our team!

[tlongII]

LeBron is MUCH better than Kobe. It's not even close.

[Obstructed_View]

If heroic Olympic performances and taking over games in the fourth quarter are a measure of greatness, then Manu >>>>>>> Kobe.

[dbreiden83080]

If heroic Olympic performances and taking over games in the fourth quarter are a measure of greatness, then Manu >>>>>>> Kobe.

:lol :toast

[Findog]

Sleepy Floyd

[JamStone]

I'll take Duncan over both of them..

These are serious questions for not just you but everybody because I think it would be interesting to see how people would answer it.

If Duncan were on the same team as Kobe or as LeBron James, would it be Duncan's team or Kobe's/LeBron's team? Would the offense run through Duncan or Kobe/LeBron. In the fourth quarter, who would be the main go-to guy, Duncan or Kobe/LeBron?

Just food for thought. No right or wrong answer. Just wondering what people think.

[JamStone]

If heroic Olympic performances and taking over games in the fourth quarter are a measure of greatness, then Manu >>>>>>> Kobe.

Not necessarily true because while Kobe had more talent on his Olympic team, Manu didn't beat the best the United States had to offer. If Kobe were on that 2004 Olympic team with Iverson and Duncan, does Argentina still win the gold?

[JamStone]

Oh, to answer the original question, LeBron is the better player now. He dominates the game more than Kobe and his dominance is leading to wins. It's not just great statistical performance on a bad or even mediocre team. LeBron is playing amazing and his team is winning. You have to say LeBron is the better player right now.

[Findog]

Oh, to answer the original question, LeBron is the better player now. He dominates the game more than Kobe and his dominance is leading to wins. It's not just great statistical performance on a bad or even mediocre team. LeBron is playing amazing and his team is winning. You have to say LeBron is the better player right now.

What about Sleepy Floyd in his prime versus LeBron today? How does the Sleepy Floyd of 86-87 compare to LeBron?

[AnotherArgie]

Michael Jordan would kick their asses even today.

[angelbelow]

kobe.

[Galileo]

Duncan is the best player and Lebron is a close second. Lebron has youth, but Duncan is more valuable, as a low post threat (rare in the NBA) and much better on D. Duncan is also the best pick setter in basketball, just ask Parker.

Kobe has never been as good as Duncan, nor will he ever be.

[Kobe™]

Lol @ Duncan.
He's the best pf of all time, but not even cracking top 3 ATM

1. Lebron 2a. Kobe 2b. Wade 3. Cp3

[The_Game]

those stupid fans who said duncan

shut up, the guy is an alltime great but he is not as good as he used to be..no where close really.

[Galileo]

Lol @ Duncan.
He's the best pf of all time, but not even cracking top 3 ATM

1. Lebron 2a. Kobe 2b. Wade 3. Cp3



Kobe is a guard. The NBA is a big man's game. Duncan in the low post.

[Galileo]

those stupid fans who said duncan

shut up, the guy is an alltime great but he is not as good as he used to be..no where close really.

Duncan is as good as ever. He got a triple-double in his last playoff game and has an amazing streak of 9 straight playoff games with at least 14 rebounds.

[JoeTait75]

It's LeBron, and it's not even close. LeBron can still dominate a game when his jumper isn't falling and he isn't scoring. Can Kobe do the same?

[Kobe™]

Kobe is a guard. The NBA is a big man's game. Duncan in the low post.

What does that have to do with whose the current best?

It's clearly Lebron.

Duncan's reign at the top is over

will he be remembered as probably the best pf to play the game?
Probably.
But like I said he's not even top 3, let alone #1.

[Galileo]

What does that have to do with whose the current best?

It's clearly Lebron.

Duncan's reign at the top is over

will he be remembered as probably the best pf to play the game?
Probably.
But like I said he's not even top 3, let alone #1.

little men can't rebound or block shots. Kobe is a lttle man. Duncan is the man.

[Findog]

will he be remembered as probably the best pf to play the game?
Probably.
But like I said he's not even top 3, let alone #1.[/b]

I have it like this:

1: Bron
2: Duncan
3: Kobe
4: Wade

Those guys are 1's, or Franchise Guys

Then there's the 1.5s, the guys that are clearly better than #2 Robins, but probably not fully-fledged Batmen, in no particular order:

KG, Dirk, CP3 (he'll be a #1 before all is said and done if he's not there now), Pierce, Deron when he's healthy, etc...

[RsxPiimp]

bron is playing an amazing ball at a very high level. i think he's the best player ATM, but i would take kobe's skill set any day of the week.



as a spurs fan, ive seen waaaayy too many games dominated by kobe.


my memory of lebron is how we swept his cavaliers and held him to 30% shooting in the finals.



lebron's day would come, but right now kobe is king among perimeter players.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Kobe.

[SpursDynasty]

Obviously no one else is really up for disussion well maybe Wade.....

who is the best?

Neither. If anyone, Wade. Neither one of the other two has won a championship for 7 years.

[dallaskd]

I honestly do not think it matters.

I know this great start is good and all for both, but Lebron needs to start winning rings to solidfy a great legacy. And if Kobe can't win with Pau and line up he has now, Shaq will have shit on him forever.

And just for my opinion, I actually think Shaq was a more dominant player in his prime than both Kobe and Lebroom.

[LakeShow]

Kobe showed the world that he is the best player in the NBA. He showed it in the Olympics when all of the other great players in the league were doing a choke job. Wade has to be included in that list as well. Lebron will eventually get there but he is not there now.

Duncan is a great player and one of the best of all time at PF. The best? I don't think so but that is my opinion.

[stretch]

And when that moment comes, Kobe rises up and carries the team to a gold medal while LeBron and Wade enjoy the ride.

Kobe is still the best in the game.

Where was that rising up in the Finals last year? Where was he when his team needed him the most against the Celtics? Where was he when his team blew a 20+ point lead? He was completely non-existent, sitting around jacking up fade-aways and threes, looking like he didn't know what the fuck he was doing there.

What he did through that entire series COMPLETELY overrides ONE nice performance with a better squad against lesser competition.

[stretch]

I like Kobe more. This is the first year I'd say LeBron is better, mainly because his defense has improved.

His free throw shooting too.

[stretch]

One thing holding me back on Lebron is just his whack jumper. If he improves it i will go out on a limb and say he would shoot over 50%

He is shooting a smidge under 50%, something Kobe has never even come close to doing, while Lebron shoots near 50% on a yearly basis. Lebron (aside from his rookie year where he shot 41%) has never shot below 47%. Kobe has never shot about 46%.

[IronMexican]

I honestly do not think it matters.

I know this great start is good and all for both, but Lebron needs to start winning rings to solidfy a great legacy. And if Kobe can't win with Pau and line up he has now, Shaq will have shit on him forever.

And just for my opinion, I actually think Shaq was a more dominant player in his prime than both Kobe and Lebroom.

Shaq was the most dominant player ever. When he was in his prime, no one could touch him.

[stretch]

Kobe is still Kyra Sedgwick

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stupidest shit ive ever heard.

lol, 2008 finals

[stretch]

I'll take Duncan over both of them..

stupider than the stupidest shit ive ever heard. go fuck yourself, homer.

[stretch]

Yeah your right, because both those guys have just led their teams to so much glory.. :rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

lol, three-peat

lol, never repeated

[stretch]

LeBron is MUCH better than Kobe. It's not even close.

Lol, its very close. Lebron is better, but not by a whole lot... yet.

[stretch]

These are serious questions for not just you but everybody because I think it would be interesting to see how people would answer it.

If Duncan were on the same team as Kobe or as LeBron James, would it be Duncan's team or Kobe's/LeBron's team? Would the offense run through Duncan or Kobe/LeBron. In the fourth quarter, who would be the main go-to guy, Duncan or Kobe/LeBron?

Just food for thought. No right or wrong answer. Just wondering what people think.

Bron and Kobe is the #1 option, no question about it.

of course you will have some dumbass spurs fans that will say its because duncan is so unselfish that he will allow them to be the #1 option or something retarded like that.

[stretch]

Not necessarily true because while Kobe had more talent on his Olympic team, Manu didn't beat the best the United States had to offer. If Kobe were on that 2004 Olympic team with Iverson and Duncan, does Argentina still win the gold?

Good food for thought.

[stretch]

Michael Jordan would kick their asses even today.

While hes the better player, its not like he would completely dominate them. And honestly, I think Lebron would be a nightmare matchup for Jordan. Physically, Lebron is far superior to Jordan. Jordan i think could handle Kobe, but not Lebron. I hate it when people say Jordan would absolultely beat the pants off Kobe and crap like that. Its like this... If Jordan scores 30, Kobe is probably going to score 28. Jordan is better, but head to head, hes not going to dominate the way some of his knobslobbers think.

[stretch]

Duncan is the best player and Lebron is a close second. Lebron has youth, but Duncan is more valuable, as a low post threat (rare in the NBA) and much better on D. Duncan is also the best pick setter in basketball, just ask Parker.

Kobe has never been as good as Duncan, nor will he ever be.

God almighty some spurs fans are fucking stupid.

Give Lebron some role players like Parker, Ginobili, and an HOF coach at his disposal. I guarantee he AT LEAST three-peats.

[stretch]

The NBA is a big man's game.

Another fucking retarded statement. Look at all the premier teams over the past few decades. Who were the star players? Dr. J, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Zeke, Wade, Pierce. Then you got Duncan, Shaq, and Hakeem (who possibly wouldnt have won anything if Jordan hadn't retired). However, the guard/forward players have won 19 of those titles. The big men have won 9.

[IronMexican]

God almighty some spurs fans are fucking stupid.

Give Lebron some role players like Parker, Ginobili, and an HOF coach at his disposal. I guarantee he AT LEAST three-peats.

No, it's just Galileo. That guy says some of the most head-scratching comments I've read.

[stretch]

Kobe showed the world that he is the best player in the NBA. He showed it in the Olympics when all of the other great players in the league were doing a choke job.

lol, 2008 finals

and no one was doing a choke job at all in the olympics. but kobe definitely choked in the finals.

[YellowFever]

Right now, I'd put Lebron at number 1 and Kobe at number 2.

Of course this can easily change..ask me again after the playoffs.

And some of you Spurs fans.....sigh.

[YellowFever]

lol, 2008 finals

and no one was doing a choke job at all in the olympics. but kobe definitely choked in the finals.

I disagree.

Lebron took one shot during the last eight minutes or so of the final game.
(edit: technically two..since he clanked the first layup, got the rebound and laid it in again)

CP was putting up ill-advised three pointers from the corner.

Howard was clanking free-throws (umm..technically not a choke since he's been doing that for a long time now)

Only players to pick it up were Wade, Bosh (on the defensive end) and Kobe.

Wade did his job in the first half (while everyone, including kobe was doing nothing) and Kobe won it for them in the fourth.

[The_Game]

Kobe didn't choke in the finals he just went up against a team that took advantage of lakers not having their starting center.

boston were the better team due to taking advantage.

[stretch]

I disagree.

Lebron took one shot during the last eight minutes or so of the final game.
(edit: technically two..since he clanked the first layup, got the rebound and laid it in again)

CP was putting up ill-advised three pointers from the corner.

Howard was clanking free-throws (umm..technically not a choke since he's been doing that for a long time now)

Only players to pick it up were Wade, Bosh (on the defensive end) and Kobe.

Wade did his job in the first half (while everyone, including kobe was doing nothing) and Kobe won it for them in the fourth.

To say Lebron didn't pick it up is dumb, because he was playing the best defense out of anyone on the team. His defense and rebounding made a huge difference.

No one really choked at all. It was just Kobe doing his thing and taking all the shots. Fortunately he was hitting them that night. Unfortunately for him and the Lakers, he wasn't able to do that in the Finals. Kobe choked and let his team down, plain and simple.

Lebron > Kobe

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Lebron

[stretch]

Kobe didn't choke in the finals he just went up against a team that took advantage of lakers not having their starting center.

boston were the better team due to taking advantage.

They didn't have their center virtually the entire season. At that point, injuries are not an excuse, especially since they pulled off that bullshit trade to bring Gasol over.

If you let your team blow a 20+ point lead, thats a choke job. Fact is, Jordan would never have let his team do that. Neither would Lebron. Why? Because 1. they are/were better leaders, and 2. because they wouldn't settle for dumb jumpshots the way Kobe did.

[bostonguy]

God almighty some spurs fans are fucking stupid.

Give Lebron some role players like Parker, Ginobili, and an HOF coach at his disposal. I guarantee he AT LEAST three-peats.

:lmao:lmao Holy shit just saw your avatar!

[bostonguy]

Pierce>Kobe>Lebron



/thread



:worthy:

[tlongII]

Roy>Pierce>Kobe>Lebron

[stretch]

Pierce>Kobe>Lebron



/thread



:worthy:

GTFO

[Kobe™]

Pierce>Kobe>Lebron



/thread



:worthy:

Boston fan putting Kobe over Lebron . . . Wow.

[Darrin]

Obviously no one else is really up for disussion well maybe Wade.....

who is the best?

This time last season I would've taken Kobe. But Lebron is flat-out making amazing feats look effortless this season. It's 1 and 1a as far as I'm concerned.

[baseline bum]

LeBron has been the best player in the game since '06-'07, and he's just widening the margin now. Tough call where to rank Kobe, Wade, and CP3 for the next three spots.

[Armando]

Kobe
Wade
LeBron

[Ghazi]

When has Kobe EVER been the best player?

He was the 2nd best player on those Laker teams, the 5 years after that was the "Tim Duncan era", and now it's Lebron James time.

It's not irrational to say that there has never been a point where Kobe has been the best player in the NBA.

[Medvedenko]

When has Kobe EVER been the best player?

He was the 2nd best player on those Laker teams, the 5 years after that was the "Tim Duncan era", and now it's Lebron James time.

It's not irrational to say that there has never been a point where Kobe has been the best player in the NBA.

I'm sure your educated opinion is one of stature and your b-ball acument only ranks with the best.

However, you ask the players, GM's coaches all around world and Kobe comes up on top. It's not close at this time. Will it be...for sure no doubt Lebron will take over, it's called age. I love the opinions of fans, mine included, but they are swayed by our own bias. Is Lebron having a great season, no doubt MVP calibre.

Funny thing you look at the stats Lebron is averaging right now and compare it to Kobe's at the same age...very similar.

[Brazil]

LeBron has been the best player in the game since '06-'07, and he's just widening the margin now. Tough call where to rank Kobe, Wade, and CP3 for the next three spots.

I agree this is for me the today picture but I would say Lebron then Kobe then CP3-Wade

[bostonguy]

GTFO

lol beavis and butthead

[Kobe™]

When has Kobe EVER been the best player?

He was the 2nd best player on those Laker teams, the 5 years after that was the "Tim Duncan era", and now it's Lebron James time.

It's not irrational to say that there has never been a point where Kobe has been the best player in the NBA.

02-06 .

[mrspurs]

LeBron is definitely the better player this year. It looks like Kobe might finally be the second best player. If LeBron keeps this play up the entire year, no doubt in my mind he is the best.

Looks that way so far. But Im guessing Kobe is resting up for later on against a tougher post season schedule. Lebron has to play lights out and is alot younger. And once the season ends the east doesnt have many tough teams to play. If anything Kobe is making his team better. And Queen James is carrying his.

[Brickhouse]

Lebron

[baseline bum]

02-06 .

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Fucking Kobe knob-slobbers are unreal.

[JoeTait75]

It's not... even... close.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Lebron is hands down the best player in the NBA

He can dominate in ways that Kobe can only imagine.