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Winehole23
12-18-2008, 01:56 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/FDAs-Proposed-Mercury-Fish-Advice/story.aspx?guid={BA4FD6FC-ABBA-4AF1-8436-813FAE6A748D}


FDA's Proposed Mercury Fish Advice Based on Flawed Science, Say MD and Anti-Mercury Advocates



Last update: 9:47 a.m. EST Dec. 15, 2008

WASHINGTON, Dec 15, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Today, a parent of a mercury-poisoning victim joined a medical doctor and an advocacy group in refuting the FDA's proposal to stop warning pregnant women and children about exposure risks from mercury in fish.


"We've known for years that mercury is toxic to the brain and other organs in varying amounts depending on the individual's status. For FDA to suddenly change the equation to say that benefits outweigh risks is like once again declaring the earth is flat after discovering it was round," concluded Jane M. Hightower, M.D., an internal medicine physician in San Francisco, CA, who published a landmark study that brought the issue of mercury in seafood to national attention. "Simply stated, FDA's proposed recommendation to eat more fish is likely based on flawed science."


In 2004, the FDA joined the EPA in releasing advice to restrict the species and amounts of fish eaten by pregnant women and children due to exposure risks to mercury. On Friday, in a draft report submitted to the White House, the FDA proposed to not only rescind that advice, but recommend that sensitive populations eat more mercury-contaminated fish.


"Talk about getting hooked on fish stories," said Michael Bender, Director of the Mercury Policy Project. "FDA has really gone overboard this time by casting out the science and reeling in the industry 'line' instead," Bender said, referring to an industry report released prior to the FDA report that reached strikingly similar conclusions.


Exposure and toxic effects in adults and children are well-documented. Dr. Hightower's new book, Diagnosis: Mercury: Money, Politics and Poison, catalogues her patients' mercury poisoning case histories.


"Patients in my private medical practice, as well as at other doctor's offices around the country, have been diagnosed with mercury toxicity from eating too much fish. Ignoring the presence of a known neurotoxin in one's diet is simply asking for trouble," said Dr. Hightower.


"To say there's nothing to worry about simply ignores reality," said Stephanie Simmons. "My daughter's reactions to additional mercury in her system from one meal of fish are testimony to that. Before being diagnosed and treated, her symptoms were dramatic, but now, subtler and longer-lasting after-effects still remain."


Simmons's story about her daughter is not an isolated case. Diagnosis of low-dose mercury poisoning from fish consumption is challenging unless physicians know what to look for and order the tests to confirm the diagnosis.


Today, the Mercury Policy Project released an expanded case study, all based on reports of doctors diagnosing patients with mercury toxicity.


More information:

Dr. Jane Hightower's book, Diagnosis: Mercury: Money, Politics and Poison at: www.Diagnosismercury.org (http://www.diagnosismercury.org/)


Mercury Policy Project's new report, "Over the Limit," on patient histories related to mercury poisoning, at: www.mercurypolicy.org (http://www.mercurypolicy.org/)


Access the draft FDA report, EPA's response and related information at: www.ewg.org/node/27431 (http://www.ewg.org/node/27431)


Calculator for personal use to estimate one's mercury body-burden at: www.GotMercury.org (http://www.gotmercury.org/)


Joint FDA/EPA fish consumption advice at: www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/admehg3.html (http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/%7edms/admehg3.html)


SOURCE: Mercury Policy Project

clambake
12-18-2008, 02:37 PM
$$$$$$

Wild Cobra
12-18-2008, 04:23 PM
I say we should err on the side opf caution unless it is well known otherwise. However, I personally don't think mercury in fish is a problem It is already dissolved into the fish in an organic matter, and it seems to me the body would use it as trace elements as needed and expel the rest.

Yes, I know I might be wrong here. I never studied this issue.

You see, i think we have more instances of mercury poisoning from broken fluorescent lamps. We have used them is stores for decades, and they are becoming common in the homes. If you break one, the mercury vapor stays at the floor for some time. How many infants and small children get mercury poisoning this way I wonder as opposed to eating fish?

ChumpDumper
12-18-2008, 04:38 PM
:rollin

Winehole23
12-18-2008, 05:19 PM
I say we should err on the side opf caution unless it is well known otherwise. However, I personally don't think mercury in fish is a problem It is already dissolved into the fish in an organic matter, and it seems to me the body would use it as trace elements as needed and expel the rest.

Yes, I know I might be wrong here. I never studied this issue.And it shows. I feel like I have insulted your intelligence just by reposting your words. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider this, WC? Go hit the google or something. Jesus.

clambake
12-18-2008, 05:26 PM
actually, wild cobra may be right.

you see, the water protects the fish from the ray beams coming from the planet mercury.

and i sold my mercury cougar for this very reason!

Wild Cobra
12-18-2008, 05:31 PM
And it shows. I feel like I have insulted your intelligence just by reposting your words. Are you sure you don't want to reconsider this, WC? Go hit the google or something. Jesus.

Why?

I clearly indicated it was an opinion and that I wasn't fluent on the subject. Opinions are often wrong. As for researching it. I have better things to do than a subject that I have so little interest in and has no bearing for me or my family.

Do you disagree with fluorescent lamps being a concern? When I see stories pinning something down to one cause, I am suspicious when I know there are multiple possible sources. I know the new compact lamps and older tube styles are health hazards!

Rohirrim
12-18-2008, 05:33 PM
Time to OD on some Tuna.

Winehole23
12-18-2008, 05:57 PM
I clearly indicated it was an opinion and that I wasn't fluent on the subject. Opinions are often wrong. As for researching it. I have better things to do than a subject that I have so little interest in and has no bearing for me or my family.Four years ago, the FDA and EPA issued a joint advisory suggesting pregnant women and kids limit their intake of fish because of the risk of mercury. Take that however you want, and when you have the time, read about how mercury effects people. I have a feeling it will make an impression on you.


Do you disagree with fluorescent lamps being a concern?No. But I guess I disagree they're more of a threat than something we eat all the time that contains mercury. Unless your family eats lightbulbs. Then what you're saying would make sense.

Whatever it is you say next, WC, I'm gonna take a pass, ok? It's somebody else's turn. I'm starting to feel like a ass just responding to you.

Wild Cobra
12-18-2008, 07:44 PM
Four years ago, the FDA and EPA issued a joint advisory suggesting pregnant women and kids limit their intake of fish because of the risk of mercury. Take that however you want, and when you have the time, read about how mercury effects people. I have a feeling it will make an impression on you.

I understand all that.

How well do you know Chemistry?

Cyanide is a pretty bad thing. However, there are several forms of cyanide and one is used as a medical cure! Cyanide is a blood agent. It attacks the iron in red blood cells. However, if you have a form already bound in iron, it is harmless. Prussian Blue is a cyanide. Fe7(CN)18(H2O)x. It is used to treat heavy metal poisoning. It does so by exchanging the iron with the offending heavy metal. The body then expels the new molecule. When a fish absorbs mercury, it is now some chemical form. I don't know what it is, but the chemistry involved is different than metallic mercury, or mercury salts. I find it unlikely to pose the same threat as elemental mercury. It still may, yet it may also pose no threat.



No. But I guess I disagree they're more of a threat than something we eat all the time that contains mercury. Unless your family eats lightbulbs. Then what you're saying would make sense.

The difference is the chemical form the mercury is in. In food sources, it may already be in forms expelled by the body rather than absorbed.



Whatever it is you say next, WC, I'm gonna take a pass, ok? It's somebody else's turn. I'm starting to feel like a ass just responding to you.

Whatever.