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purist
12-21-2008, 12:36 AM
And it becomes increasingly more difficult to remain one.

Plenty of blame to go around...Garrett .... TO.... Romo .... the run defense .... but i lay blame squarely on the shoulders of one Jerry Jones, the devil incarnate.

Good thing for Jerry he's the owner, else he might be the one getting an impromptu visit on a golf course to be informed that he's been removed as owner and gm. 20 years ago, Jones summarily dismissed Tom Landry as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in such a way in favor of his handpicked firebrand of a coach Jimmy Johnson.

Two decades later lets compare what Jones has accomplished compared to his predecessor regime. Granted, to his credit (or Johnson's) Jones can lay claim to three super bowls trophies. The Schramm-Landry regime? OVer 28 some odd years .. two super bowl wins, but a total of five appearances. Combined, the Cowboys lost three super bowls by a grand total of 11 points.

For nearly three decades, Landry was the "only coach the Cowboys ever had." Under Jones, I count six and soon to be seven. Under Landry et al, the Cowboys strung together a string of 20-pus winning seasons in a row.

So don't tell me that JOnes is all about winning. the record says otherwise. I'll give you that he spends money and that he likes to buy winners. But let's not confuse ego with desire to be the best. That is the difference between the old Cowboys and the Jones era Cowboys. Under Landry, the Cowboys were the class of the league. Under Jones, they are the spectacle of the league. And that the Cowboys were able to win three superbowls in the 90s is more a testament to Jimmy Johnson than to Jones. Let's not forget that both Michael Irvin was a draft pick of Landry's and Troy Aikman was the indisputable # one pick in 89, which the Cowboys were prepared to draft under Landry. And I suspect that, given time and opportunity (the opportunity give to Johnson), Landry would have molded his team as he did before into champions.

Now, it's been a dozen years or so that the Cowboys have gone without a playoff win or a even a winning record in December. As time passes, it's becoming increasingly difficult to make a defensible arguement that Jerry JOnes is a bout winning. Time is often the revealer of truthe, the records and the behavior over time are beginning to show that Jones is not so much a winner as he is an egocentric millionaire or billionaire bent on amassing as much wealth and fame as he possibly can. Super bowls for JOnes are merely gravy. And sadly, many of us have drunk the Jerry kool-aid. But after tonight's game, for me, the kool-aid has lost its flavor.

Jerry Jones has done an admirable job in marketing his team. But int he process it has become just that...his team ... not our team. I say let him have it and one day maybe he and Al Davis can exchange stories of how they each oversaw and contributed to the demise of two of the greatest NFL franchises of the 60s and 70s.
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Oh, Gee!!
12-21-2008, 02:03 AM
the run by McGahee is almost forgivable, but the next one by some no-name mofo on the very next play is completely inexcusuble. how do you get burned for 150+ yards on two f'ing plays in the 4th quarter?

BruceBowenFan
12-21-2008, 02:22 AM
i thought i was looking at a game of madden when both those runs happened :pctoss:pctoss.

IronMexican
12-21-2008, 02:26 AM
How does it become difficult to be a Cowboy fan? I am a fucking Raider fan. Nut up, bitch.

dirk4mvp
12-21-2008, 02:33 AM
:lmao fucking fags

Obstructed_View
12-21-2008, 03:14 AM
Shut up, puss. Your team ain't always gonna win. There are fans out there whose team has never even been to a Super Bowl, much less won five. You'll probably be in here talking shit if they make the playoffs.

samikeyp
12-21-2008, 07:58 AM
Shut up, puss. Your team ain't always gonna win. There are fans out there whose team has never even been to a Super Bowl, much less won five. You'll probably be in here talking shit if they make the playoffs.

+1

MajorMike
12-21-2008, 11:00 AM
I would be emarassed, too, with your spelling. Oh, and your QB is a choke artist, as well. You should start calling him Mr. November.

Obstructed_View
12-21-2008, 11:17 AM
I would be emarassed, too, with your spelling. Oh, and your QB is a choke artist, as well. You should start calling him Mr. November.

He didn't play well, but if the defense doesn't give up 150 rushing yards and 2 touchdowns on back to back plays, they probably win the game.

jack sommerset
12-21-2008, 11:28 AM
How does it become difficult to be a Cowboy fan? I am a fucking Raider fan. Nut up, bitch.


Raiders atleast went to Super Bowl a few years ago. Cowboys have not won a Playoff game in 12 years.

Indazone
12-21-2008, 12:02 PM
Get ready for the Texans biotch

to21
12-21-2008, 12:15 PM
They are the ones that should be embarrased for playing like that in front of all the history last night.

Slinkyman
12-21-2008, 01:51 PM
After 13 years of mediocrity you should be used to this by now, your team isn't any different then the Bengals.

IronMexican
12-21-2008, 02:14 PM
Raiders atleast went to Super Bowl a few years ago. Cowboys have not won a Playoff game in 12 years.

How does 19 wins in 5 seasons sound? The Pats almost reached that in one season.

purist
12-21-2008, 02:57 PM
Captain Mike, the fact you have an OSU icon as your avatar speaks volumes.
Obstructed View, your name too says it all. YOur view must be obstructed by your head being up your ass.

All of you can kiss my ass. IF you haven't been a Cowboy fan all your life, you won't understand my point, which is that Jerry Jones is an asshole, like many of you.

He's not about winning. He's about feeding his own ego. He craves attention, not necessarily championships. He's trailer trash compared the class of what the Cowboys once were.

Saturday night just brought it all home as they shut down Texas Stadium.

So if you think Im a puss or that I'm being unrealistic, screw you. The Cowboys have been more than just another team, they've been a cultural phenomenon for the better part of four decades.


Oh, and if you admit to being a raider fan, then you are more pathetic than I could ever be.

Dr. Gonzo
12-21-2008, 03:35 PM
It takes balls to admit to being a fan of a shitty team.

IronMexican
12-21-2008, 03:45 PM
Sorry I didn't jump ship. You might be a Texan fan soon, eh, purist?

Obstructed_View
12-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Captain Mike, the fact you have an OSU icon as your avatar speaks volumes.
Obstructed View, your name too says it all. YOur view must be obstructed by your head being up your ass.

All of you can kiss my ass. IF you haven't been a Cowboy fan all your life, you won't understand my point, which is that Jerry Jones is an asshole, like many of you.

He's not about winning. He's about feeding his own ego. He craves attention, not necessarily championships. He's trailer trash compared the class of what the Cowboys once were.

Saturday night just brought it all home as they shut down Texas Stadium.

So if you think Im a puss or that I'm being unrealistic, screw you. The Cowboys have been more than just another team, they've been a cultural phenomenon for the better part of four decades.


Oh, and if you admit to being a raider fan, then you are more pathetic than I could ever be.

The only way you've been a Cowboys fan longer than I have is if you're older than I am. Either way, you're completely stupid and an excellent example of what people hate about Cowboys fans. You must not know shit about the Cowboys' history if you're whining about Jerry Jones. Soon you'll be complaining about the players' lack of character or that the stadium is too expensive. :lol

Jerry Jones has won one more super bowl than Clint Murchinson and Bum Bright combined. Your dumb fucking bandwaggoning ass wasn't saying shit when they were winning 12 games every year and getting to the conference semifinals, and you damn sure weren't bitching when they were running up 52 points on the Bills. I bet you were one of those people calling for Landry's head when he was winning 2 games every year at the end of his career.

Dumbfuck.

txallstar
12-21-2008, 04:30 PM
Raiders atleast went to Super Bowl a few years ago. Cowboys have not won a Playoff game in 12 years.

only took the raiders 30 yrs to get there

purist
12-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Well, lets just say I'm over 40, and for Captn Mike's sake "I'm a man!"

I have faint images in my mind of the first super bowl loss to Baltimor and clearer images of Staubach rallying the team from apparent sure defeat against the 49ers in the divisional playoffs, back when it was still an uncertainly of who would be the #1 qb, Staubach or Morton.

If you think I am the reason people hate Cowboy fans, so be it. I expect more, a helluv alot more from my teams than what Jones has brought, because I think he's taken more than given.

And yes, I enjoyed the superbowls of the 90s, but it many ways it was like taking a dose of bad tasing medicine -- you know it's supposed to be good for you, but it still tastes bad. But no, I never called for Landry's head; just like I've never called for Popovich's head nor Mack Brown's head. I believe there is something to be said for loyalty and commitment aside from the wins and losses of a season or two. In fact, I think I was more of die hard through Landry's last years when Dallas struggled. Why? because for the better part of my life that team had given me so much to be proud of, to be hoepful for, to feel a part of.

Now, 've stomached Jones for two decades and I'm not sure I can stomach him anymore. And I don't care how much the new stadium costs. It's irrelevant. You remember when Landry ran Hollywood from the team? WOudl he have put up with T.O.? Would Schramm? I know I'm comparing two different eras and maybe it's not fair to Jones. But I don't care. I see a future for the Cowboys that looks very much like the Raiders'. Who can say that Al Davis doesn't want to win? problem is he doesn't know how. Jones won when he acquiesced his ego to the greater good and relenquished football responsibilities to smarter football minds. It's no coincidence the Cowboys won with Johnson and then not again until Parcells.

I don't know why my opinion on this is offensive to anyone. why some are so willing to follow Jones so blindly. why some can't see that he cares more about himself than the greater good of an organization or a league. In the end, he will be richer for having owned the Cowboys, but I'm not sure the Cowboys will be any "better."

ducks
12-21-2008, 06:51 PM
cowboys have lots of bandwagoner fans
this fan is one of them

Obstructed_View
12-21-2008, 07:44 PM
And yes, I enjoyed the superbowls of the 90s, but it many ways it was like taking a dose of bad tasing medicine -- you know it's supposed to be good for you, but it still tastes bad. But no, I never called for Landry's head; just like I've never called for Popovich's head nor Mack Brown's head. I believe there is something to be said for loyalty and commitment aside from the wins and losses of a season or two. In fact, I think I was more of die hard through Landry's last years when Dallas struggled.

So you'll suck a dick for a million dollars but not for a hundred. Doesn't change what you are.

ClingingMars
12-21-2008, 07:48 PM
lmao.

things aren't great but there's no need to burn down the walls just yet. win next Sunday, and no matters what happens, we're in the playoffs.

-Mars

samikeyp
12-21-2008, 07:52 PM
If it bothers you so much, change teams.

I didn't like the performance either but I am not going to go all emo and cry in my room lamenting the passing of the good old days. Jeez.

Obstructed_View
12-21-2008, 07:56 PM
Meh, most teams are full of rotten fans. The Cowboys just have the most that don't realize how fucking douchy they sound after the team loses. During the 90s they used to leave at halftime if the Cowboys weren't scoring enough points.

BlackSwordsMan
12-21-2008, 07:59 PM
bye to

benefactor
12-21-2008, 08:29 PM
Shut up, puss. Your team ain't always gonna win. There are fans out there whose team has never even been to a Super Bowl, much less won five. You'll probably be in here talking shit if they make the playoffs.
QFT...GTFO with this, "I am embarrassed" crap. Houston fans have watched their team be not quite good enough for decades...from the losses in the AFC Championship games to the immortal Steelers in the 70's to the 90's with Gilbride's garbage Run and Shoot offense and the Buffalo debacle in the playoffs. I have stood by this team through shit year after shit year...and have had to start over with a completely new team.

So spare me with your "its hard to be a fan" garbage. You have ZERO idea what true loyalty looks like.

Vinnie_Johnson
12-21-2008, 08:49 PM
You guys need to think what Lion's fans feel like. The Cowboys will be in the playoffs.

purist
12-21-2008, 08:54 PM
Last time and I'm done on this topic.
This is not about one loss. This is about a team that over time has lost its soul. Or, more specifically, sold its soul for wins. Except that now the wins aren't as easy to come by.

I'm not a bandwagoner. My only team my whole life has been Cowboys.

What's more pathetic is fans that aren't willing to take off their rose colored glasses and be objective about their team/franchise. Sorry, if you don't agree with my assessment of this organization. But, its my opinion, and thought its not worth a damn to anyon else. Expressing it in a meaningless forum like this can be therapeutic.

So thanks for the exchange, even as obnoxious as it has been.

Vinnie_Johnson
12-21-2008, 09:13 PM
Last time and I'm done on this topic.
This is not about one loss. This is about a team that over time has lost its soul. Or, more specifically, sold its soul for wins. Except that now the wins aren't as easy to come by.

I'm not a bandwagoner. My only team my whole life has been Cowboys.

What's more pathetic is fans that aren't willing to take off their rose colored glasses and be objective about their team/franchise. Sorry, if you don't agree with my assessment of this organization. But, its my opinion, and thought its not worth a damn to anyon else. Expressing it in a meaningless forum like this can be therapeutic.

So thanks for the exchange, even as obnoxious as it has been.

The Lions would love to have an owner like Jerry. Correct me if im wrong but didn't The Boys win three rings since Jerry got there?

benefactor
12-21-2008, 09:30 PM
The Lions would love to have an owner like Jerry. Correct me if im wrong but didn't The Boys win three rings since Jerry got there?
Yeah...but that was back when the NFL was like MLB and there was no salary cap.

florige
12-22-2008, 09:25 AM
The Cowboys remind me alot of how the Giants were last season. When Shockey was constantly bitching about not catching any passes, Eli played like crap because we was steadliy looking for him all the time and often threw picks, or got sacked. I still remember that Minnesota game where he took like a 30 yard sack. Once Shockey got injured Eli calmed down and went on that Super Bowl streak. My point is, while you guys may have some problems, your main one is TO. Get rid of him and you guys will see the difference.

Obstructed_View
12-22-2008, 10:09 AM
This is not about one loss. This is about a team that over time has lost its soul. Or, more specifically, sold its soul for wins. Except that now the wins aren't as easy to come by.

It's not about one loss? The Cowboys were 4-1 in the five games before this one. But you only care about the team's "soul" when they lose. Amazing that you don't see what a hypocrite you are.

News flash, kitten: The Cowboys have a chance to win 10 games and make the playoffs.

Spurminator
12-22-2008, 11:15 AM
Any embarrassment I'd feel about being a Cowboys fan wouldn't have anything to do with the Cowboys team, but other Cowboys fans.

mexicanjunior
12-22-2008, 12:21 PM
My point is, while you guys may have some problems, your main one is TO. Get rid of him and you guys will see the difference.

Agreed, I don't think this team will take the next step until TO is gone and out of Romo's psyche. Tony is looking his way first on almost every pass play now instead of just finding the open man. If I was Roy Williams (WR), I would be pitching a fit because Romo chooses to heave 50 yard bombs to TO in double coverage instead of taking the 15 yard in to Roy. That is pretty much what happened on the Ed Reed interception at the end of the half. Romo is not blameless in this either but I think TO dominates his mind when he drops back to pass.

As for Jerry, there is not an owner I would take ahead of him right now. He may be arrogant and full of ego but he cares about winning and bringing in the best players to give his team a chance to compete...that is all you can really ask for. I think more than half of the teams fans in the league would swap Jerry with their owner in a heartbeep.

tonylongoriafan
12-22-2008, 12:24 PM
we get in to the playoffs, we got a shot...are you scared of the cardinals, giants

DannyT
12-23-2008, 01:45 AM
http://www.insidethehuddle.com/


the host of the show is horrible...but Martellus saves the show....sam hurd and steve dennis stunk it up

purist
12-28-2008, 10:21 PM
It's not about one loss? The Cowboys were 4-1 in the five games before this one. But you only care about the team's "soul" when they lose. Amazing that you don't see what a hypocrite you are.

News flash, kitten: The Cowboys have a chance to win 10 games and make the playoffs.

Guess it's not just one loss after all.

Just saying.

Findog
12-29-2008, 02:52 AM
The Cowboys problem is a complete organizational failure from the owner to the ballboy. Jerry thinks he's a GM and uses a roster spot on Pacman instead of a decent backup qb. Wade Phillips can't get his team ready to play. Romo tries to do too much. Garrett's play calling is getting mocked and criticized by his own players and the other team. Honestly, the only guys on the team I really like and respect are Witten, Ware, Folk and the punter, the one they had that got hurt.

mrspurs
12-29-2008, 07:02 AM
Well said purist. Its not Americas team, its the JerryJonespringer Misfits team.

mrspurs
12-29-2008, 07:03 AM
The Cowboys remind me alot of how the Giants were last season. When Shockey was constantly bitching about not catching any passes, Eli played like crap because we was steadliy looking for him all the time and often threw picks, or got sacked. I still remember that Minnesota game where he took like a 30 yard sack. Once Shockey got injured Eli calmed down and went on that Super Bowl streak. My point is, while you guys may have some problems, your main one is TO. Get rid of him and you guys will see the difference.

Agreed.

mrspurs
12-29-2008, 07:04 AM
It takes balls to admit to being a fan of a shitty team.

Sad but true.

mrspurs
12-29-2008, 07:07 AM
Well, lets just say I'm over 40, and for Captn Mike's sake "I'm a man!"

I have faint images in my mind of the first super bowl loss to Baltimor and clearer images of Staubach rallying the team from apparent sure defeat against the 49ers in the divisional playoffs, back when it was still an uncertainly of who would be the #1 qb, Staubach or Morton.

If you think I am the reason people hate Cowboy fans, so be it. I expect more, a helluv alot more from my teams than what Jones has brought, because I think he's taken more than given.

And yes, I enjoyed the superbowls of the 90s, but it many ways it was like taking a dose of bad tasing medicine -- you know it's supposed to be good for you, but it still tastes bad. But no, I never called for Landry's head; just like I've never called for Popovich's head nor Mack Brown's head. I believe there is something to be said for loyalty and commitment aside from the wins and losses of a season or two. In fact, I think I was more of die hard through Landry's last years when Dallas struggled. Why? because for the better part of my life that team had given me so much to be proud of, to be hoepful for, to feel a part of.

Now, 've stomached Jones for two decades and I'm not sure I can stomach him anymore. And I don't care how much the new stadium costs. It's irrelevant. You remember when Landry ran Hollywood from the team? WOudl he have put up with T.O.? Would Schramm? I know I'm comparing two different eras and maybe it's not fair to Jones. But I don't care. I see a future for the Cowboys that looks very much like the Raiders'. Who can say that Al Davis doesn't want to win? problem is he doesn't know how. Jones won when he acquiesced his ego to the greater good and relenquished football responsibilities to smarter football minds. It's no coincidence the Cowboys won with Johnson and then not again until Parcells.

I don't know why my opinion on this is offensive to anyone. why some are so willing to follow Jones so blindly. why some can't see that he cares more about himself than the greater good of an organization or a league. In the end, he will be richer for having owned the Cowboys, but I'm not sure the Cowboys will be any "better."

It isnt offensive. This site like all blog sites is filled with Playbabies who only read what they want to read. Romo is no different than Fab. The both of them are complete choke artists. Thats all they will ever be. And alot of people will follow those choke artists to their graves.

samikeyp
12-29-2008, 08:08 AM
I'm not embarrassed to be a fan, but the players should be after yesterday.

samikeyp
12-29-2008, 08:10 AM
It isnt offensive. This site like all blog sites is filled with Playbabies who only read what they want to read. Romo is no different than Fab. The both of them are complete choke artists. Thats all they will ever be. And alot of people will follow those choke artists to their graves.

I don't know if that is all Romo will ever be because his career is not over but so far, yes. Although I don't pin yesterday solely on Romo. There is plenty of blame to go around.

florige
12-29-2008, 08:26 AM
I don't know if that is all Romo will ever be because his career is not over but so far, yes. Although I don't pin yesterday solely on Romo. There is plenty of blame to go around.



Geeezus Mikey what the hell was that yesterday? I was at the Ravens game yesterday and looked up at the scoreboard and wondered wtf?!

tonylongoriafan
12-29-2008, 09:01 AM
who gives a shit...football season is over

Dre_7
12-29-2008, 09:01 AM
As a Niner fan all I can say is, hope you enjoyed the team killing TO :lmao

Dr. Gonzo
12-29-2008, 09:25 AM
QFT...GTFO with this, "I am embarrassed" crap. Houston fans have watched their team be not quite good enough for decades...from the losses in the AFC Championship games to the immortal Steelers in the 70's to the 90's with Gilbride's garbage Run and Shoot offense and the Buffalo debacle in the playoffs. I have stood by this team through shit year after shit year...and have had to start over with a completely new team.

So spare me with your "its hard to be a fan" garbage. You have ZERO idea what true loyalty looks like.

That's the fucking truth. I'm right there with you. I've been an Oilers fan for as long as I can remember. There are even pictures of me as a 3 year old wearing an Oilers jacket. It's been fucking painful for so many years, especially watching the Titans make the Super Bowl only a couple of years after that fat piece of shit Bud Adams moved the team. But I'm now a Texans fan, been a fan since day 1 and no matter what that team does I will support them.

leemajors
12-29-2008, 10:36 AM
I'm not embarrassed to be a fan, but the players should be after yesterday.


According to Mark Friedman (1310 The Ticket Dallas radio), the Cowboys charter was not the sad, sullen, and despondent scene that one might expect. He described the scene as “like the last day of school”, with dominoes being played in the back and lots of laughing and carrying on. He said that he was reluctant to say anything, seeing as how the Cowboys are nice enough to allow media members on the charter, and that only leads me to believe that he may have muted the reality of what was actually going on. Friedo did not mention any specific names, nor did he say if alcohol was flowing, but he made it pretty clear that if you did not know who won the Cowboys-Eagles game, you just might assume it was the Cowboys from their conduct on the plane.

http://www.dallassportsfans.com/2008/12/cowboys-laughing-acting-like-last-day-of-school-on-return-trip-from-philadelphia/

mrspurs
12-29-2008, 11:02 AM
who gives a shit...football season is over

Your dead wrong. There are still plenty of games to be played. In the NFL and in the NCAA.:king

ClingingMars
12-29-2008, 01:20 PM
Your dead wrong. There are still plenty of games to be played. In the NFL and in the NCAA.:king

football season is over for fans who's teams didn't get into the playoffs, and who's teams didn't get into bowl games/had other means of deciding the postseason.

-Mars

BUMP
12-29-2008, 01:53 PM
idk who to root for in the playoffs.

i like Arizona but they are vulnerable once they leave the desert

Obstructed_View
12-29-2008, 05:53 PM
Guess it's not just one loss after all.

Just saying.

You weren't saying that shit after three super bowls in four years. Come in here and bump this thread every time the Cowboys lose from now on. It only proves my point that you're a fair weather bandwaggoner, and it isn't changed one iota by how long you've been a fan of the team.

purist
12-29-2008, 06:48 PM
You weren't saying that shit after three super bowls in four years. Come in here and bump this thread every time the Cowboys lose from now on. It only proves my point that you're a fair weather bandwaggoner, and it isn't changed one iota by how long you've been a fan of the team.

Whatever. your head is far up Jerry Jones' ass you can't see that he's taken this franchise down a shit hole.

Just look at what happens when a real football mind takes charge of a franchise.... Parcells takes Jones' leftovers and a reject Jets quarterback and has his team in the playoffs. See the trend? Johnson, Parcells ... real football men can stand Jones for only so long before they too get tired of his crap.

I'm a fan of the Cowboy franchise, it's history and its tradition, the star on the helmet, but not Jones. I can't stand the guy, and for the last 20 years being a fan was in spite of Jones, not because of him.

You call me the hippocrite ... look at your beloved owner/GM. He passes on Randy Moss, but years later rolls the dice on T.O. and Pacman Jones? Tank Johnson? He doesn't know who he is or what he believes and consequently neither does his team.

I will give him this though... either his eye for talent has improved or he's letting others make those decisions. whatever the case, he has assembled talent .... dysfunctional talent.

Call me a bandwagonner, a hippocrite. So what.

I'll call it like I see it. Jones sucks and because of him the Cowboys do too.

LakerHater
12-29-2008, 06:51 PM
It just keeps gettin uglier in Dallas!! :lol :lmao


IRVING, Texas -- On the day Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal) head coach Wade Phillips was saying he plans to change, linebacker Bradie James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4561) got into an altercation with a fan outside the team's training facility.

Down in Big D

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/teamlogos/nfl/sml/trans/dal.gif As expected, the media in Dallas -- and nationwide -- has been none-too-kind to the Dallas Cowboys since the team's 44-6 loss to Philadelphia that left the Cowboys out of the NFL playoffs. Story (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3797744)


James confronted the fan, who was protesting the team's 44-6 loss to Philadelphia, which eliminated the team from playoff contention. The fan was wearing a sandwich board that said, "Cowboys have no heart'' on one side and "Wade is an embarrassment to the star" on the other, according to ESPN's Ed Werder.
Click link to continue
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3798441 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3798441)

Obstructed_View
12-29-2008, 07:40 PM
Whatever. your head is far up Jerry Jones' ass you can't see that he's taken this franchise down a shit hole.
Three super bowls = shit hole. Gotcha.


Just look at what happens when a real football mind takes charge of a franchise.... Parcells takes Jones' leftovers and a reject Jets quarterback and has his team in the playoffs. See the trend? Johnson, Parcells ... real football men can stand Jones for only so long before they too get tired of his crap.
Parcells in Dallas - 0 playoff wins
Jimmy Johnson in Miami - End of the season meltdowns, poor performance despite multiple more first round players than any other team and a 62-7 loss in his final game.


I'm a fan of the Cowboy franchise, it's history and its tradition, the star on the helmet, but not Jones. I can't stand the guy, and for the last 20 years being a fan was in spite of Jones, not because of him.
Then you should stop being a fan of the team if you actually believe that. Otherwise you're just one of the many knee jerks that make the rest of the Cowboys fans look bad.


You call me the hippocrite ... look at your beloved owner/GM. He passes on Randy Moss, but years later rolls the dice on T.O. and Pacman Jones? Tank Johnson? He doesn't know who he is or what he believes and consequently neither does his team.
He passed on Randy Moss and got Greg Ellis, who's been a good player for eleven years. I'm on the record hating Pacman Jones, but I hated him before we found out he sucks, whereas you only brought it up when the team started to struggle and he wasn't scoring touchdowns. You know you'd have been wearing your Deion Sanders jersey in public if Pacman had been any good.


I will give him this though... either his eye for talent has improved or he's letting others make those decisions. whatever the case, he has assembled talent .... dysfunctional talent.
They've always had talent. The problem they have most often is his poor choices in head coaches and his inability to give up control. The biggest problem they have right now is the fact that he's going to stick with a bad coach for another year and cost that talent another season of missed opportunity.

Winehole23
12-29-2008, 08:28 PM
Any embarrassment I'd feel about being a Cowboys fan wouldn't have anything to do with the Cowboys team, but other Cowboys fans.Good point. I feel much the same about Longhorn fans and Spurs fans.

LakerHater
12-29-2008, 08:44 PM
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Your Cowboys are a gutless crew

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Wade Phillips presides over the most gutless team in franchise history.
That's his legacy.
Forever.
And it should be after Philadelphia stomped the Cowboys, 44-6, in a win-and-you're-in-the-playoffs game Sunday.
But he's keeping his job - even after the worse loss of the Jerry Jones era. Seriously.
Jerry wants to keep the coaching staff intact because he said the continuity provides Dallas with its best chance to win. Besides, he doesn't want to make the same mistake he did nearly a decade ago, when he fired Chan Gailey after only two seasons.
Can you say poppycock?
It seems to me, the folks wearing white coats need to spend a few hours with Jerry today. See, either Jerry has lost his mind or he thinks the fans in Dallas are so dumb they will fill his new billion-dollar stadium regardless of the product on the field or the man running the team.
That's the only conclusion you can draw because if Phillips keeps his job after this season, Jerry should never, ever fire him. Phillips will never do a worse job than he did this season.
Ever.
Then again, maybe Jerry's encouraged because the Cowboys won the fourth quarter - 3-0 on a 42-yard field goal by Nick Folk - and we all know the importance Phillips places on finishing strong.
"You take everybody, starting here, to the woodshed," Jerry said. "Everybody goes to the woodshed. Everyone."

We'll see.
But it's hard to talk tough about taking folks to the woodshed, when Phillips, who managed a 13-3 team with Super Bowl expectations so poorly that it didn't even make the playoffs, remains the coach.
This group of arrogant faux stars played with a sense of entitlement, in part, because Phillips provided a plethora of ready-made excuses for their flaws, when he should've been challenging his underachieving players to perform better.
The big-time players who were supposed to make big plays in big games never showed up against Philadelphia.
You can start with Tony Romo, who threw an interception and fumbled twice, leading to 17 points. Philadelphia outscored the Cowboys 41-0 during the second and third quarters.
After the second fumble, Romo lay face-first on the turf, his hands on his helmet in despair. Until he decides protecting the ball is a high priority, Romo will never have end-of-the-season success.
Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett's offense was abject, as it has been much of this month, against quality defenses. Romo said the Eagles thwarted the Cowboys' pass-blocking schemes, his way of saying either Garrett or offensive line coach Hudson Houck did a poor job.
Ultimately, though, this game was really about the Cowboys playing the same old sloppy football Phillips has accepted all season.
Trailing 17-3 with no margin for error, Adam Jones committed a dumb personal foul - imagine that - at the end of Reggie Brown's 13-yard catch, moving to the Dallas 14.
Terence Newman's pass interference in the end zone on third-and-nine from the 13 put the ball at the Dallas 1.
Brent Celek's touchdown catch pushed the lead to 24-3.
No way this team devoid of a heart and character could overcome that deficit. Just to make sure, Jones fumbled the ensuing kickoff to set up David Akers' 50-yard field goal on the first half's final play.
Last week, the Cowboys finished the Baltimore game by allowing the two longest runs - 77 and 82 yards - in franchise history during the game's final four minutes. Against Philadelphia, Dallas allowed the two of the longest fumble returns in franchise history - 73 and 96 yards.
Ridiculous.
Now, these Cowboys, who entered December 8-4 and in complete control of their playoff destiny, must answer another year of questions about their propensity for choking after going 1-3 in the season's final month.
Then, they can answer questions about their embarrassing streak of 12 consecutive seasons without a playoff win, the longest in franchise history.
"This is a tough way to end the season, the last two games, is really a shameful way to go out," T.O. said.
What did you expect from this gutless group?

purist
12-29-2008, 09:57 PM
Three super bowls = shit hole. Gotcha.


Parcells in Dallas - 0 playoff wins
Jimmy Johnson in Miami - End of the season meltdowns, poor performance despite multiple more first round players than any other team and a 62-7 loss in his final game.


Then you should stop being a fan of the team if you actually believe that. Otherwise you're just one of the many knee jerks that make the rest of the Cowboys fans look bad.


He passed on Randy Moss and got Greg Ellis, who's been a good player for eleven years. I'm on the record hating Pacman Jones, but I hated him before we found out he sucks, whereas you only brought it up when the team started to struggle and he wasn't scoring touchdowns. You know you'd have been wearing your Deion Sanders jersey in public if Pacman had been any good.


They've always had talent. The problem they have most often is his poor choices in head coaches and his inability to give up control. The biggest problem they have right now is the fact that he's going to stick with a bad coach for another year and cost that talent another season of missed opportunity.

Deion Sanders is a D bag. The greatest shutdown corner in history, but still a bigger than dallas D bag. I hate that he was ever a Cowboy. Just like I hate that T.O. is one now.

LakerHater
12-29-2008, 10:14 PM
People should be when you find shit like this posted all over their website:
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp338/eliisthemanning/n1267361894_30146592_9564-1.jpg (http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp338/eliisthemanning/?action=view&current=n1267361894_30146592_9564-1.jpg)
:rollin:lmao:rollin

tp2021
12-30-2008, 02:21 AM
Cowboys, not Lions, were top flops

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Dec 28, 11:12 pm EST



Tony Curtis stopped and sunk his head.

He was defeated, just like his Dallas Cowboys. The first half wasn’t over, but the 44-6 humiliation at the hands of the Philadelphia Eagles was assured. The much hyped, Super Bowl-or-bust season would end without even a measly playoff berth.

Curtis had been blocking on a kickoff only to watch return man Pacman Jones foolishly and fruitlessly try to make nothing out of nothing in the final seconds of the first half. Jones was caught along the sideline by half the Eagles team photo. With nowhere to go he should’ve looked to avoid disaster. Instead he courted it, overconfident in his ability. He bopped around in a circle until he fumbled.

Philly recovered, setting up a gift field goal. Curtis showed up on the scene, looked at the pile, looked at the carnage of a play gone bad and a season gone worse and down went that head.

How ‘bout them Cowboys?

The Detroit Lions became the first team to go 0-16 in league history but the most disastrous season in the NFL this year belongs to the Cowboys.

Detroit was supposed to be terrible, the predictable result of letting Matt Millen run the franchise for so long. The Lions’ futility is historic, but what’s the tangible difference between 0-16 and 2-14?

Dallas had 13 Pro Bowlers, a peacock proud owner and a ton of talk about how this was the season for its first Super Bowl since 1996.

Instead it was a train wreck of melodrama, mistakes and misplaced priorities. For Dallas to finish 9-7 and out of the playoffs with that much talent is an epic failure.(:lmao)

“We’ve got the best talent in the NFL, but that doesn’t always get the job done,” cornerback Terence Newman told the Dallas Morning News.

At midseason, owner Jerry Jones even mortgaged some of the team’s future to get more talent. He traded a first-, third- and sixth-round draft pick to Detroit for receiver Roy Williams. Like most of Dallas’ moves, it didn’t pan out. Williams caught just 19 passes in 10 games.

It wasn’t as bad as Jones putting his personal reputation on the line in taking Pacman Jones off Roger Goodell’s suspended list. Pacman not only didn’t produce – he was terrible Sunday – he served a six-game midseason suspension after fighting one of the bodyguards Jerry Jones hired to keep him out of trouble.

(Pacman’s signing would rank as the single most embarrassing moment of the NFL season if not for the fact that New York mayor Michael Bloomberg gave Brett Favre a “Broadway” street sign, among other gifts, just for signing with the Jets. After 22 interceptions and a season not even Favre’s media sycophants can spin, Bloomberg ought to ask for it back.)

The Cowboys holdovers meanwhile weren’t much better. Tony Romo continued to fall apart after Dec. 1 (he collapsed in the shower postgame due to what was believed to be a rib injury). Terrell Owens created some drama and began showing his age. The defense often seemed confused and slow.

After a promising 3-0 start, the team finished 6-7. Yet Jerry Jones says coach Wade Phillips will be back.

Dallas was a fantasy team coming to life this season. Jones kept adding stars without concern for chemistry. He expected them to coexist, cooperate and conquer the way the 1990s Cowboys did. That was a different group though, and too often this season the big names came up small.

There’s physical talent and winning talent and they aren’t the same.

“We’ve got to start all over,” Owens said. “[Guys] have to look in the mirror and go back to the drawing board and ask themselves, ‘How can [I] get better in every aspect of their game.’ That starts with me.”

Owens got wistful at one point and talked about the Eagles, who won four of their last five games and entered the weekend with long odds to make the playoffs only to secure the final spot.

“I know the makeup of that locker room,” Owens, the former Eagle, said. “I know the makeup of that coach [Andy Reid] and he had them ready to play.”

Left unsaid was that the Cowboys weren’t, whether because of Phillips or a group of players that just expect success to happen.

Repeated late season collapses – the Cowboys have lost their last nine regular-season finales and have done nothing in the playoffs – are in this team’s DNA. Jones might have added what looked like talent, but the mental toughness and leadership remains elusive.

Sunday he wasn’t willing to admit that, though, which cuts the likelihood of meaningful offseason change.

“I saw this team come back in some pretty trying situations this year,” Jones told reporters. “That showed good mental toughness. I don’t know. I would point to turnovers. I would point to missed tackles. I would point to things like that before I would mental toughness. I would look for technical things.”

Dumb turnovers and lazy tackling is mental toughness. It is leadership. It is chemistry.

Dallas had too little of it this season. It had none of it on a must-win Sunday.

“A shameful way to go out,” Owens said.

A telling one though for the team with too much talent.

samikeyp
12-30-2008, 08:05 AM
+1