Dikembe Mutumbo: "Celtics or spurs"

[sonic21]

posted by allanon in the nba forum

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sixerville/Dikembe_Mutombo_Is_Lending_A_Ground-Breaking_Hand.html

BOSTON--Dikembe Mutombo is going after this harder than he has ever gone after a block or a dunk or a rebound.
Much, much harder.

The 7-2 free agent center who helped the 76ers reach the NBA Finals in 2000-01, and who says ''I will be in Boston or San Antonio by the end of the year,'' is trying to raise at least $2 million to help treat the thousands of patients who have been coming, mostly on an out-patient basis, to the hospital he has built in his native Democratic Republic Of The Congo.

His Atlanta-based charitable foundation has teamed up with Denver-based Mobile Accord, Inc. to create a system by which people can make a contribution of $5 by sending ther text message CONGO to 90999. The mobile channel is supported by AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint/Nextel, T-Mobile asnd US Cellular. (Anyone wishing to donate more than $5 should dial 1-800-251-0942.)

''If we can get 400,000 people to send a text, we can raise the money,'' Mutombo said in a telephone interview the other day. ''We'll know in three months what we have done. It is to save the lives of children in Congo. So many of them have malaria. A child dies every 35 seconds of malaria or measles. I know I am not the solution, I am just a piece of the puzzle.''

The hospital Mutombo has built is the first modern medical facility there in 40 years.

Mutombo was a guest at the Dec. 17 premier of ''Gimme Shelter,'' a documentary short prepared by actor-director Ben Affleck about the war-ravaged Congo, where more than four million people have died since 1998.The film was presented at the United Nations Refugee Agency to help raise awareness for the need for financial aid.

''The volume of patients at my hospital is about 250-300 outpatients a day,'' Mutombo said. "Sixty-five percent have malaria. This is a call to the American public and my fans in the Delaware Valley to respond, a call for a Christmas spirit.''

[Yorae]

DEKE on Spurs, come on FO!!! He's old, really old!!! You like those kind of guys, right?

[T Park]

I'd put the chances of it happening at 2%

He will take the money with Boston.

[Allanon]

Mutumbo's size and veteran savvy would give Bynum problems. I wish he'd go anywhere BUT the Spurs/Celtics.

[benefactor]

I doubt he comes here. He will probably see Boston as the better chance at a title.

That being said...I wouldn't mind having him at the end of the bench.

[Bruno]

I hope he will go to Boston.

[xtremesteven33]

i wanna see a finger wag in a spurs uniform

[Oink Oink]

I hope he will go to Boston.

Why?

[Yorae]

I like him in here so the theme will be, win it for DEKE!!! Eh, just like they want to win it for finley back then....

[Bruno]

Why?

Because he is slow and Spurs need quickness in their frontcourt.

[HarlemHeat37]

he would be perfect for this team, since he gives us the 3rd dimension of big man we are missing..we have the shooter and offensive player in Bonner, we have the tough, gritty player in Thomas, and Mutombo would give us a shot blocker and rebounder..

obviously a young, athletic big man would be ideal, but I'd take a proven, former DPOY at this age over an unproven D-League player..

[Yorae]

Oink Oink, i hate your avatar. Is that melo?

[xtremesteven33]

Because he is slow and Spurs need quickness in their frontcourt.


Hes not the best option but hes the best shotblocker we would have in years since DROB left.

Thats gotta be worth something. Plus if hes slow it wouldnt matter since the spurs do play a slow paced game.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If he's smart he'd probably end up going to Boston

Can't say I'd blame him.

[Austin_Toros]

i wanna see a finger wag in a spurs uniform

well i dont!

really dont want another old fogy on our roster

besides, he should just go with boston and get a ring! :king

[all_heart]

He would be a decent pick up for the Spurs, it's not like Bonner or Fab are shot blockers or even "alterers". He's someone who can fill that void for the rest of the season. He'd be a better rebounder too. Who cares if he doesn't learn the offense to the T, he would be here to rebound and defend. The way we jack up 3's he could be there to clean up a little.

[DMX7]

I'd welcome him but I don't "want" him in a Spurs uniform.

[galvatron3000]

In order to get another player it would take the Spurs waiving someone and I don't want what D brings because we need that plus quickness. He lacks quickness and we lack the energy off the bench to go with him on the florr, if we can bring in some quickness to match him on the floor then cool but he and Tim together is too slow in my book. That being said I think it could work but in certain instances and I'd rather they look for speed and quickness on the frontline with Tim. D works when Tim exits the game but Tim needs help alongside him not when he leaves the court, the way I see anyway.

[Kindergarten Cop]

In order to get another player it would take the Spurs waiving someone and I don't want what D brings because we need that plus quickness. He lacks quickness and we lack the energy off the bench to go with him on the florr, if we can bring in some quickness to match him on the floor then cool but he and Tim together is too slow in my book. That being said I think it could work but in certain instances and I'd rather they look for speed and quickness on the frontline with Tim. D works when Tim exits the game but Tim needs help alongside him not when he leaves the court, the way I see anyway.

I think that we would all like to have a faster front-line player, but the problem is that there are currently none available on the FA market and we'd have to give up something of value to acquire one in a trade. If we were to sign Deke, we'd not necessarily give up anyone (since we would likely send them to the D-league and likely see little interest from other teams in the league).

[BlackSwordsMan]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

[tav1]

Because he is slow and Spurs need quickness in their frontcourt.

I fully agree with Bruno here. The Spurs could use a shot blocker, but the big problem with their bigs is that they don't have a player who is quick enough to guard face up 4s, like David West and Dirk Nowitzski. Also, if the Spurs sign Deke it would likely impede the development of Ian Mahinmi, assuming his old lady ankles come around. Finally, I'm in favor of the Spurs using their 15th spot as a revolving try-out door to Austin, and Mutumbo would eat that space. Let Boston have him.

[xtremesteven33]

People say they dont want him cause hes too "old" and "slow".

Im going to laugh at these ST posters who dont want Deke and then Deke goes to Boston and contributes big time for them.

[Spurs Brazil]

I'd rather have Mutombo than Tolliver so I say sign him and waive Tolliver

[T Park]

I'd rather have Mutombo than Tolliver so I say sign him and waive Tolliver

Thats why your sitting at home and not an NBA GM.

Mutombo is done and washed up.

He doesn't move laterally very well at all anymore, and now his age has caught up to him finally.

Hes not come to SA so time to move on.

[angelbelow]

come to SA, although that would mean hairston or tolliver on the way out.

[all_heart]

Pop loves veteran players, I wouldn't be surprised if Deke got more PT than Ian.

[angelbelow]

Thats why your sitting at home and not an NBA GM.

Mutombo is done and washed up.

He doesn't move laterally very well at all anymore, and now his age has caught up to him finally.

Hes not come to SA so time to move on.

top 3 worst responses i have ever seen.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

top 3 worst responses i have ever seen.

Don't worry, he has NBA GM-like duties to take care of. Afterall, he prefers Tolliver to Mutombo.

[Spurs Brazil]

Thats why your sitting at home and not an NBA GM.

Mutombo is done and washed up.

He doesn't move laterally very well at all anymore, and now his age has caught up to him finally.

Hes not come to SA so time to move on.

I agree he's not a great option but he's a player we don't have. Only TD can block shots for us now.

I'd rather see Mutombo against the Lakers in the playoffs and not Tolliver

I don't want him in San Antonio to play 15 minutes. 5-8 minutes a game to give TD some help on D will be enought

[ElNono]

Mutombo is done. Hate to say it because he's undeniably one of the nicest persons top to bottom this league has ever had. But as a player, I would take big shot rob or even DRob with his current belly over Dikembe. He's just nowhere near what he used to be, and those who still think he can pull out a couple blocks and half dozen rebounds a game are just nostalgic of the old Mutombo.

[all_heart]

People say they dont want him cause hes too "old" and "slow".

Im going to laugh at these ST posters who dont want Deke and then Deke goes to Boston and contributes big time for them.


That's exactly the kind of bullshit that would happen to the Spurs if they passed on him. I'm still pissed cause of the Scola thing.

[HarlemHeat37]

what the hell are some of you talking about? he played LAST SEASON and was effective for the Rockets while playing a good role..there's no reason to think he wouldn't be able to contribute the same way in 10-15 minutes..

there's a reason THE WORLD CHAMPS want him..there's a reason a number of other teams are going for him..

[xtremesteven33]

what the hell are some of you talking about? he played LAST SEASON and was effective for the Rockets while playing a good role..there's no reason to think he wouldn't be able to contribute the same way in 10-15 minutes..

there's a reason THE WORLD CHAMPS want him..there's a reason a number of other teams are going for him..



People here overreact, thinking we would play him 25-30 minutes a game and take away Ian's minutes.

IF he were to come here he would contribute big time. And you could Quote me on that.

[Biggems]

Mutombo, the person, is a perfect fit for the Spurs. He exudes class, compassion, heart, and generosity for the less fortunate. For this reason, I have always wanted him to be a Spur....it is unfortunate that it never came to pass.

Mutombo, the player, is pretty much done. He has had a very nice career, and exceeded any expectations I had when he came out of Georgetown. I thought his game was too raw to last, but he proved me wrong. He never really refined his offensive game, but his defensive contributions cannot be discounted in the slightest.

Well whatever path he takes, I wish him nothing but the best, especially with his efforts in helping the impoverished in the Congo.

[itzsoweezee]

it would be a waste of time. i don't think he can provide anything that thomas can't.

[Spurs Brazil]

Mutombo last season:
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
07-08 HOU 39 25 15,9 0,538 0,000 0,711 1,7 3,4 5,1 0,1 0,3 1,2 0,44 1,40 3,0

Oberto this season
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
08-09 SAS 21 11 16,7 0,512 0,000 0,550 1,3 1,8 3,1 1,7 0,1 0,2 0,86 2,00 2,6

[bdictjames]

Would love to have another veteran on the bench.

[Avitus1]

Dont know how I feel about him joining the Spurs but the guy is a great humanitarian.

[jjktkk]

it would be a waste of time. i don't think he can provide anything that thomas can't.

Size(7'2") and shot blocking.

[MarHill]

Mutombo, the person, is a perfect fit for the Spurs. He exudes class, compassion, heart, and generosity for the less fortunate. For this reason, I have always wanted him to be a Spur....it is unfortunate that it never came to pass.

Mutombo, the player, is pretty much done. He has had a very nice career, and exceeded any expectations I had when he came out of Georgetown. I thought his game was too raw to last, but he proved me wrong. He never really refined his offensive game, but his defensive contributions cannot be discounted in the slightest.

Well whatever path he takes, I wish him nothing but the best, especially with his efforts in helping the impoverished in the Congo.

You make good points and I can't disagree with them....

But, I believe with his size and defense could help the Spurs with 10-15 mins a game.

Interesting that he would want to come and play for the Spurs!!


:flag:

[Austin_Toros]

I'd rather have Mutombo than Tolliver so I say sign him and waive Tolliver


Thats why your sitting at home and not an NBA GM.

Mutombo is done and washed up.

He doesn't move laterally very well at all anymore, and now his age has caught up to him finally.

Hes not come to SA so time to move on.

im with T Park
i rather develop a tolliver or other austin player than have mutombo for the rest of the season

[Chieflion]

When Duncan sits, he comes in. Why not? Just to keep him away from the Celtics. We could also do a 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 small trade which would solve the problem at SF for a long and athetic body with fillers.

[The Truth #6]

I think we need both quickness and rebounding/shotblocking in the frontcourt.

We have Tolliver who has quickness but it's completely uncertain what he is going to be able to do for the team. If he can learn to play like a SF then he may have a career, but as it is now he is an undersized PF who isn't a solid rebounder and a shaky NBA shooter.

IF Mutombo can still rebound and Tolliver doesn't improve his outside shooting by the upcoming contract deadline then I would sign him, especially if it seems clear that Ian is too injured to play for the team this year.

[thOOdee]

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A 7'2 PLAYER ON THE SPURS. THERE IS NO WAY HE WON'T BE PRODUCTIVE. This wouldn't be the over the top move for a for sure championship but it would be an awesome move to get a big that we desperatly need and to gain my confidence back in to the FO to help support timmy,for the time being atleast. Plus he could give ian some pointers.

[Rohirrim]

I fully agree with Bruno here. The Spurs could use a shot blocker, but the big problem with their bigs is that they don't have a player who is quick enough to guard face up 4s, like David West and Dirk Nowitzski. Also, if the Spurs sign Deke it would likely impede the development of Ian Mahinmi, assuming his old lady ankles come around. Finally, I'm in favor of the Spurs using their 15th spot as a revolving try-out door to Austin, and Mutumbo would eat that space. Let Boston have him.


LOL Ian is done dude. How many season will you guys keep dreaming about an imaginary ian.

[tp2021]

Ian is not done. He is younger than the Spurs' rookie PG.

[Obstructed_View]

I'd like to see Deke in a Spurs' uni, but the finger wag has to go. It's self-promoting and classless. Besides, it's a freakin' cliche now.

[timvp]

Eh, for some reason I can't imagine this actually happening. Deke is a good player, or at least he was last season, but I'm not sold that he'd be all for having a smallish role with the Spurs. Thomas will steal most of the minutes against big, physical power forwards and centers.

[mrspurs]

From what Ive read. Im pretty sure he's headed to the Celtics. He has more friends there. And his chances of grabbing a ring are better in the East with the Celtics then in the West with the Spurs.

[galvatron3000]

I'd like to see Deke in a Spurs' uni, but the finger wag has to go. It's self-promoting and classless. Besides, it's a freakin' cliche now.

It's what men do, we smack talk trying to compete. I have no problem with it. The objective is to make him stick his finger up his or you will have that thing in your face saying not in my house. I love it. We have to man up and stop whimping out about everything. WE getting so soft. Come to the playground and that's where you earn your stripes and no refs with bailout calls and no fans talking about what is class and classless, it's the battle field and you go to war until somebody wins. Yeah, we argue and bitch but in the end we respect each other and can't wait til the next time we get revenge or to up them again. That's what competition does.

[xtremesteven33]

i get a feeling though that he wants to come to San Antonio just based upon playing with Tim Duncan and under Pop.

Deke is a good guy and a team leader and i dont see him getting along too much with KG and his obnoxious ways.

But yea i agree with TIMVP, he will likely be in Boston.

[Obstructed_View]

It's what men do, we smack talk trying to compete. I have no problem with it. The objective is to make him stick his finger up his or you will have that thing in your face saying not in my house. I love it. We have to man up and stop whimping out about everything. WE getting so soft. Come to the playground and that's where you earn your stripes and no refs with bailout calls and no fans talking about what is class and classless, it's the battle field and you go to war until somebody wins. Yeah, we argue and bitch but in the end we respect each other and can't wait til the next time we get revenge or to up them again. That's what competition does.


Give me a fucking break. There's no emotion in that, it's a gimmick. On the playground if you do that crap you'll get fouled really hard the next time you go up for a shot. It's a stupid thing he does to get around the rules about taunting. I think they should be allowed to talk more trash, but what Deke does is just douchy.

[koriwhat]

It's what men do, we smack talk trying to compete. I have no problem with it. The objective is to make him stick his finger up his or you will have that thing in your face saying not in my house. I love it. We have to man up and stop whimping out about everything. WE getting so soft. Come to the playground and that's where you earn your stripes and no refs with bailout calls and no fans talking about what is class and classless, it's the battle field and you go to war until somebody wins. Yeah, we argue and bitch but in the end we respect each other and can't wait til the next time we get revenge or to up them again. That's what competition does.

for real! i hate this class bs that keeps getting thrown around here in regard to spurs fans. i'm not here to impress anyone with my classiness by sitting in my seat and golf clapping, that's why i stand up at games and yell! fuck class, it gets you nowhere in sports.

class to me, in sports, is exactly how the spurs handle themselves on court and behind the scenes but when it comes down to it i want to see some sort of burning/passion in the eyes of all that sit on our bench and i want to see that we have that swagger that others fear.

as for all spurs fans, i could care less if you don't have class. a spurs fan is a spurs fan is a spurs fan regardless. bring it bitches!

[galvatron3000]

Give me a fucking break. There's no emotion in that, it's a gimmick. On the playground if you do that crap you'll get fouled really hard the next time you go up for a shot. It's a stupid thing he does to get around the rules about taunting. I think they should be allowed to talk more trash, but what Deke does is just douchy.

of course it's a gimmick but it's noworse than trash talking. Deke does it all in fun and perhaps to get pumped up on that end of the floor. We just don't agree as you find it stupid and it just doesn't bother me to the least.

[sa_butta]

Another inside presence would help us out late in the season, I would not be totally against the old finger waver. I think he could really help us out in the playoffs and its not like he woulndt have any legs he isnt playing a full season.

[ManuTP9]

i would love to have him on SA but when it comes down to it he's likely going to pick Boston , because he prolly wants a championship.

[nkdlunch]

Mutombo >> Mother Teresa

and Mother Teresa as backup PG was a nobrainer. You do the math

[Duncan2177]

Anyone who wouldnt want Mutumbo on the spurs is crazy, He would bring shot blocking that this spurs team needs next to Timmy, He would help against the lakers with Gasol and Bynum in a seven game series.

[Obstructed_View]

of course it's a gimmick but it's noworse than trash talking. Deke does it all in fun and perhaps to get pumped up on that end of the floor. We just don't agree as you find it stupid and it just doesn't bother me to the least.

And I probably sound way too judgmental or righteously indignant about it in my posts, which isn't my intent. While I think it's kind of ghey, that's not why I think he shouldn't do it as a Spur. It's contrary to the things the Spurs try to do as a team. Even if he refused to stop doing it I'd still like to see him as a Spur.

[T Park]

Don't worry, he has NBA GM-like duties to take care of. Afterall, he prefers Tolliver to Mutombo.

Ones 23 and has alot to work with, athletic, good defender, good passer.

Ones 40 something and all eh can do is move like a snail and block 1 or 2 shots a game and thats it.

Yeah I can see why I'm such an idiot.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Ones 23 and has alot to work with, athletic, good defender, good passer.

Ones 40 something and all eh can do is move like a snail and block 1 or 2 shots a game and thats it.

Yeah I can see why I'm such an idiot.

Get back to work, GM.

[T Park]

Give me a fucking break. There's no emotion in that, it's a gimmick. On the playground if you do that crap you'll get fouled really hard the next time you go up for a shot. It's a stupid thing he does to get around the rules about taunting. I think they should be allowed to talk more trash, but what Deke does is just douchy.

I always said, it would've been awesome had Malik laid a little knee into Mutombo when he did that and gave him a "Finger wave that bitch" when on the floor.

[T Park]

Get back to work, GM.

I'm not one, therefore I don't act like I know more than current GMs, and ridicule and pound them into the ground cause they've fucked up 3 times in 13 years.

[T Park]

And I probably sound way too judgmental or righteously indignant about it in my posts, which isn't my intent. While I think it's kind of ghey, that's not why I think he shouldn't do it as a Spur. It's contrary to the things the Spurs try to do as a team. Even if he refused to stop doing it I'd still like to see him as a Spur.

No you were right the first time :lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I'm not one, therefore I don't act like I know more than current GMs, and ridicule and pound them into the ground cause they've fucked up 3 times in 13 years.


I'd rather have Mutombo than Tolliver so I say sign him and waive Tolliver

Yep, Spurs Brazil definitely gave them a pounding.

[jcrod]

waive vaughn

[benefactor]

waive vaughn
I would say unlikely...but I wouldn't put it completely out of the question to bring in Deke if Pop really wanted to keep Tolliver also. Tolliver would likely go back to the Toros in this scenario.

[galvatron3000]

And I probably sound way too judgmental or righteously indignant about it in my posts, which isn't my intent. While I think it's kind of ghey, that's not why I think he shouldn't do it as a Spur. It's contrary to the things the Spurs try to do as a team. Even if he refused to stop doing it I'd still like to see him as a Spur.

No problem and you are probably right as far as being a Spur is concerned but that's the thing I like, having a Spur that breaks the mode of the norm without causing a distraction or team disarray. I loved Jax for being tough and the "anti-spur" so to speak yet he still fit his role nicely and we've have trouble finding his replacement ever since.


Just as I like having a discussion with disagreements that are respectful.

[Bruno]

I think that Mutumbo will re-sign with Houston.
They have just salary dumped Francis and they now can sign Mutumbo to a minimum contract without going over the luxury tax.

[galvatron3000]

I think that Mutumbo will re-sign with Houston.
They have just salary dumped Francis and they now can sign Mutumbo to a minimum contract without going over the luxury tax.

I noticed that Francis was unloaded now with Artest coming off the bench to lead the second unit the Rockets are looking more dangerous if they will gel and McGrady & Ming can stay healthy for the long haul, doubtful but..., with Mutumbo and Artest leading the bench squad could be good combo, though I still think Mutumbo with the C's is too dangerous for the rest of the league.

[Rummpd]

More playing time here. A veteran who comes cheap and is a class act. Sounds like a Spur.

[timtonymanu]

i wouldnt want Deke going to Boston or L.A.

those two teams already got star players for free. ex.) Pau, KG, Ray

[romsho]

I think that Mutumbo will re-sign with Houston.
They have just salary dumped Francis and they now can sign Mutumbo to a minimum contract without going over the luxury tax.

And we have a winner. I wanted Mutombo here badly, but no doubt Houston realizes they need him on the roster. Daryl Morey was asked today about the possibility of using the capspace to pursue Mutombo, and he said it was definitely a possibility. I consider it done.

[Spork KIller]

Mutombo??

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[lefty]

Mutombo??

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

Shaq?

Really?

[Bruno]

It looks like Boston is quite out of the race :

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?&articleid=1141441&format=&page=1&listingType=celt#articleFull


But as the Celtics continue to search for some length to complement Leon Powe and Glen Davis off the bench, there was nothing encouraging on the Dikembe Mutombo front. The free agent said he’d be making a decision on a team soon, but the Celts may be holding off for someone with a more balanced game as they mainly see Mutombo as a contributor on the defensive end.

“No, I don’t think we’re going to get him,” said Rivers. “We talked to David (Falk, Mutombo’s agent) and I would say it’s a no.

“We would love him, but we’re going to wait it out.”


Thee is also a rumored trade between Bucks, Rockets and Lakers. In this trade Rockets could get Chris Mihm and face again some luxury tax trouble. If it's the case, I doubt they still will be interested in Mutombo.

Right now, I still think that Mutombo will go back to Rockets but things could change if the rumored trade happens.

[ulosturedge]

No one is salvating over Mutombo. You guys are over reacting about the problems he would cause if we'd have to face him on another team. In The Spurs case i'd say they are gonna see what comes of Mahinmi before they even look at making any moves with their "bigs".

[benefactor]

It looks like Boston is quite out of the race :

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?&articleid=1141441&format=&page=1&listingType=celt#articleFull




Thee is also a rumored trade between Bucks, Rockets and Lakers. In this trade Rockets could get Chris Mihm and face again some luxury tax trouble. If it's the case, I doubt they still will be interested in Mutombo.

Right now, I still think that Mutombo will go back to Rockets but things could change if the rumored trade happens.
I wonder why Mutombo wants to go back there? Adleman didn't really seem interested in playing him last year. Mutombo seemed infer that he would be somewhere by the end of the year, so I expect we will get a yea or nay from Morey in the next few days.

[tav1]

I wonder why Mutombo wants to go back there? Adleman didn't really seem interested in playing him last year. Mutombo seemed infer that he would be somewhere by the end of the year, so I expect we will get a yea or nay from Morey in the next few days.

Didn't see Bruno's comment until now, but this does raise the Joe Smith question. (http://48minutesofhell.blogspot.com/2008/12/joe-smith-yes-please.html)

[benefactor]

Didn't see Bruno's comment until now, but this does raise the Joe Smith question. (http://48minutesofhell.blogspot.com/2008/12/joe-smith-yes-please.html)
Yeah...I read that too in the article too. I think that we probably have a better shot at Deke. Joe Smith will likely jump with both feet at Boston if they even start to give him that "come hither" look.

[T Park]

Well if the Spurs are even interested, I'd say its probobly between them and Houston most likely.

Interesting. I don't know how effective Mutombo would be, and I don't know if giving up on a young athletic big like Tolliver is prudent, but I leave it up to the ones in the phone booth on the east side to make that decision.

[DPG21920]

I think it is awesome for this year. If it is true that this "core" is in its last run together, bring on Deke. You can always find another Tolliver.

[benefactor]

There is also the Vaughn buyout possibility too. If Pop really wanted to keep Tolliver they could buy Vaughn out of his last year then offer him a job on the coaching staff. This way we could keep Tolliver and send him back to the Toros to continue developing and bring in Mutombo. I like Tolliver and his potential for the future, so this is the scenario I would like the most.

[DPG21920]

There is also the Vaughn buyout possibility too. If Pop really wanted to keep Tolliver they could buy Vaughn out of his last year then offer him a job on the coaching staff. This way we could keep Tolliver and send him back to the Toros to continue developing and bring in Mutombo. I like Tolliver and his potential for the future, so this is the scenario I would like the most.

It is hard though because the Spurs already have Ian and Hairston down there and you can only have 2 players assigned to the d-league at once.

[tav1]

Just like every other season, it looks likes patience will be rewarded. The Spurs best bet is to see who is going to shake free before making a move, if at all, on a player.

[DPG21920]

Just like every other season, it looks likes patience will be rewarded. The Spurs best bet is to see who is going to shake free before making a move, if at all, on a player.

Very true. From what I have seen around the league the Spurs are still a legit contender. One more small piece could be the answer for this year.

[benefactor]

It is hard though because the Spurs already have Ian and Hairston down there and you can only have 2 players assigned to the d-league at once.
Forgot about that...Perhaps we bring Ian up for rehab like last time, then when he is ready to play we swap spots with him and Tolliver and put Tolliver in a suit? I don't know. I'd like to find a way to keep both but in reality it will be one or the other...unless we plan on keeping 6 bigs.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Anyone who wouldnt want Mutumbo on the spurs is crazy, He would bring shot blocking that this spurs team needs next to Timmy, He would help against the lakers with Gasol and Bynum in a seven game series.

Don't let logic get in the way of this argument. The same people bashing this potential acquisition were defending Pop last year for trotting out Michael fucking Finley at power forward and watching us get destroyed on the glass :rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

I think the plan all along was once Ian was in game condition he wasn't going to be with the Toros anymore.

I'm kind of torn about waiving Tolliver for Mutombo because Tolliver is exactly the kind of guy one wants to develop in Austin. I like the Vaughn idea only because the Spurs have so many guys who can play the point.

[T Park]

I think the plan all along was once Ian was in game condition he wasn't going to be with the Toros anymore.

I'm kind of torn about waiving Tolliver for Mutombo because Tolliver is exactly the kind of guy one wants to develop in Austin. I like the Vaughn idea only because the Spurs have so many guys who can play the point.

Agreed, I'd much rather waive vaughn.

I just see them waiving Tolliver instead if they do this.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No one is salvating over Mutombo. You guys are over reacting about the problems he would cause if we'd have to face him on another team. In The Spurs case i'd say they are gonna see what comes of Mahinmi before they even look at making any moves with their "bigs".

Fucking A. Does anyone really expect the three-headed scrub monster of Bonner, Oberto, and Ian to hang with Bynum should we (more than likely) meet LA in the playoffs? Or Michael Finley? :lol

Deke may be old but he would be a defensive upgrade over any of those three for this coming playoff run. Ian may be better down the road, may not be, but you're kidding yourself if you think Ian would be able to step in against the Lakers and not get the rookie treatment from the refs. Outside of that you're left with Oberto and his two inch vertical and lateral quickness of a sloth and Bonner, who'd rather be standing outside the 3 point line.

Look at the matchups - Tim has to check one of Bynum or Gasol, and the other will draw one of those three at the defensive end. Y'all are nuts if you think we'd win that matchup.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Oh, and if you're looking at personnel matters, this to me is a no brainer. Waive Vaughn.

You've got Parker, Hill, and in a pinch either Mason or Manu can step in at point.

Keep Tolliver, send him to the Toros, bring up Ian, and give Vaughn a gold watch and send him on his way. With Parker, Hill, Mason, and Manu all capable of playing the point, if we ever got to the point we needed Vaughn we're probably screwed anyway.

[ulosturedge]

I'm sure there is a reason why no one picked up Dikembe in the off season. I didn't see much of him last year, but if he did a half decent job then you would think someone would have already picked up the 7'2 center. Considering that no one did must tell you that his age is really starting to show now.

If the guy can still move with those padded up knees then maybe. I'm just sayin' he isn't gonna be the x-factor for the Spurs making another run at the Championship.

[xtremesteven33]

I'm sure there is a reason why no one picked up Dikembe in the off season. I didn't see much of him last year, but if he did a half decent job then you would think someone would have already picked up the 7'2 center. Considering that no one did must tell you that his age is really starting to show now.

If the guy can still move with those padded up knees then maybe. I'm just sayin' he isn't gonna be the x-factor for the Spurs making another run at the Championship.


- i assume many teams either dont NEED his services or dont think the money would be well invested.

The Spurs are in a different situation. They have Bigs but not defensive/shot blocking bigs. All Pop would expect out of Deke would be 10-15 minutes of solid defense.

[T Park]

He would be situational.

Oberto would probobly become useless if Mutombo is brought in due to, Thomas being a better offensive big than him.

I'm for it, but only if its done the right way.

[completely deck]

- i assume many teams either dont NEED his services or dont think the money would be well invested.

The Spurs are in a different situation. They have Bigs but not defensive/shot blocking bigs. All Pop would expect out of Deke would be 10-15 minutes of solid defense.

Exactly. So you clowns jumping ship should relax because it's not like he'd replace anyone we already have such as KT or Oberto.

Chill out! :downspin:

[daslicer]

If the spurs get him I would see him playing the same role that Kwill played in '03. A guy who be solid for 10-20 minutes off the bench which is all the spurs need and nothing more.

[xtremesteven33]

He would be situational.

Oberto would probobly become useless if Mutombo is brought in due to, Thomas being a better offensive big than him.

I'm for it, but only if its done the right way.


If Mutombo were to come Oberto would get the starting job back.

Oberto/Mutombo/Thomas
Duncan/Bonner
Bowen/Finley
Ginobili/Mason
Parker/Hill

thats my predicted playoff rotation. IF deke signs

[tav1]

If Mutombo were to come Oberto would get the starting job back.

Oberto/Mutombo/Thomas
Duncan/Bonner
Bowen/Finley
Ginobili/Mason
Parker/Hill

thats my predicted playoff rotation. IF deke signs

I'm not buying that. Thomas is a better player than Deke.

[xtremesteven33]

I'm not buying that. Thomas is a better player than Deke.


in some situations of course. But Deke has the length and shotblocking in his favor. Or at least he did. That has yet to be seen this year.

[tav1]

in some situations of course. But Deke has the length and shotblocking in his favor. Or at least he did. That has yet to be seen this year.

But he's even more immobile than Thomas.

[T Park]

I don't buy that Bonner loses the spot that quick.

Adding Mutombo though makes this team beyond versatile.

I would just hope hes got at least a few gallons left in the tank, enough to give something and play well against the Lakers.

Thats the team he would be perfect against.

He is a team first guy and good defender, so he fits in like a glove.

I'm starting to root for it happening, but I doubt it does..

[layupdrill]

Mutombo is gonna end up either in Houston or Boston, and odds are he returns to Houston. The move to trade Steve Francis was to clear up roster and salary space for Mutombo

[T Park]

Doc Rivers just said that they weren't going after him....

[layupdrill]

They said the same thing about Marbury too

[benefactor]

Doc Rivers just said that they weren't going after him....
...and all reports out of Houston are that they have yet to call him and tell him anything. Houston may be stringing him along a little bit as a back up plan. By freeing the money they have freed they could be thinking the same thing Boston is thinking in regards to Joe Smith, as they would likely be able to outbid Boston for him.

They better be careful though. Waiting too long to tell Deke their intentions could land him on our roster and they could be left with nothing. Wouldn't be nice to actually screw Houston for a change? :downspin:

[layupdrill]

...and all reports out of Houston are that they have yet to call him and tell him anything. Houston may be stringing him along a little bit as a back up plan. By freeing the money they have freed they could be thinking the same thing Boston is thinking in regards to Joe Smith, as they would likely be able to outbid Boston for him.

They better be careful though. Waiting too long to tell Deke their intentions could land him on our roster and they could be left with nothing. Wouldn't be nice to actually screw Houston for a change? :downspin:


All reports out of Houston?
You sure about that?http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2008/12/so_long_steve_hello_again_dike.html

[benefactor]

All reports out of Houston?
You sure about that?http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2008/12/so_long_steve_hello_again_dike.html
Please find me a quote in that article that says they have contacted Mutombo. As of Christmas Eve, they have not contacted him.

MyFox Houston (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=8139094&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1)

The problem is Mutombo's phone has been ringing off the wall with calls from the Rockets, but not from the front office.

[layupdrill]

Mourning and Mutombo, twenty years later, will both be playing big roles for playoff contenders this year. Houston, Boston, San Antonio in the mix.

As I type this, NBA TV Steve Smith just name dropped Joe Smith possibly going to Boston

[benefactor]

Steve Smith is probably just repeating what we all have read on the Boston Herald. Nothing is going to happen until OKC makes the first move.

[benefactor]

Update (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/6185785.html)

Rockets general manager Daryl Morey said he had "a good meeting" with the agent representing Dikembe Mutombo, but that he does not expect a decision for several days as the earliest.

Since last week’s trade of Steve Francis to Memphis moved the Rockets out of position to be required to pay a luxury tax, Morey has spoken several times with Mutombo in addition to Monday’s meeting with David Falk to express the team’s interest in bringing back Mutombo.

"He is considering his options, which he has every right to do," Morey said.

[benefactor]

I wonder what is going on? Perhaps Deke wants some guarantees about being played more than Adleman played him last year? More truth to Lakers/Rockets/Bucks trade than initially assumed?

[xtremesteven33]

Maybe Pop is swaying his decision.????

[Dex]

I hate when players come out with a decision date, then don't meet it.

If you wanna take your time to decide, great. Probably the smart thing to do.

But don't say you'll have an answer waiting on the 31st and then flub on it.

[Obstructed_View]

That's the surest way to turn the Spurs off.

[honestfool84]

maybe he'll sign with the spurs.

two days.

[benefactor]

In an article a few days ago Deke in his own words had Houston out of the conversation...even though reports from the Houston media had him going back there. He could be a little irritated with the Rockets for waiting forever to contact him even though he has been pretty vocal about wanting to play.

[DPG21920]

He has also been in Africa doing a ton of charity work, I think Deke is own his own time.

[benefactor]

maybe he'll sign with the spurs.

two days.
As long we don't see an article from McDonald or Monroe titled "Spurs are the front runners for Mutombo", we should have a decent shot.

[honestfool84]

As long we don't see an article from McDonald or Monroe titled "Spurs are the front runners for Mutombo", we should have a decent shot.

:lmao

[xtremesteven33]

I think he just might be really enticed to join the Spurs. After watching them win on Christmas day and after seeing them win a Double OT game. He sees a team that has the championship mettle to compete and thats something he probably doesnt see in Houston.

Plus Boston says they are out of the race. So that really only leaves the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

It is not life or death for the Spurs if Deke does not sign. I am not sure the real interest he has in the Spurs. It would be nice, but there is still plenty of time to make smart moves.

[benefactor]

It is not life or death for the Spurs if Deke does not sign. I am not sure the real interest he has in the Spurs. It would be nice, but there is still plenty of time to make smart moves.
I feel the same way. I'd like to have him as insurance but if we don't get him there is still plenty of season left to bring in some help. Ten day contracts haven't even started yet.

I'm sure we will have at least a few posters that have a meltdown over it though.

[xtremesteven33]

Id still take Alonzo over Deke though

[Obstructed_View]

If Alonzo Mourning ever becomes a Spur, I'll consider rooting for the Lakers.

[SpurAddict561]

I'll take Mutumbo

he an't run the court like he used to but we don't play like that anyways

he'd fit in well

Timmy/Dikembe = Lakers fucked.

[sonic21]

As long we don't see an article from McDonald or Monroe titled "Spurs are the front runners for Mutombo", we should have a decent shot.

:lol

[DynastyBuilder]

Rockets GM Daryl Morey said he had "a good meeting" with the agent representing center Dikembe Mutombo, but that he does not expect a decision for several days at the earliest.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6186435.html

[urunobili]

If Alonzo Mourning ever becomes a Spur, I'll consider rooting for the Lakers.

+1

[galvatron3000]

Zo should have came in the 2005-2006 season, I thought he'd be great for us that season but won it all with the HEAT so I guess he chose right

[jag]

I'm not so sure I want the Spurs to sex Mutumbo. I'd rather them try and work out a trade before the deadline using Vaughn, Udoka, and possibly Oberto.

[peskypesky]

If Alonzo Mourning ever becomes a Spur, I'll consider rooting for the Lakers.

ouch

[romad_20]

Oberto.


I really don't think Oberto is going anywhere while Manu is here. I think he would retire before playing for another team. Only my opinion, though.

[Indazone]

For what Oberto brings, Deke is better. Deke can still pass the ball, block shots and is a rebounding nightmare for the opposition.

[exstatic]

If Alonzo Mourning ever becomes a Spur, I'll consider rooting for the Lakers.


+1

+2 We don't need anyone in our organization that did what he did to TOR and the NJN. Alonzo is a fuck, for all the community work he does. None of that makes up for his shit treatment of teams he's been with.

I'd be OK with Cookie Monster in a limited role.
http://www.shopatmoxie.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/cookiemonster400.jpg

[ManuTP9]

deke isnt going to SAS they said he's headed back to houston after all star break

[SpurAddict561]

that blows

I really wanted him

damnit

[xtremesteven33]

deke isnt going to SAS they said he's headed back to houston after all star break



sources???

[td4mvp21]

It would be nice to have some more size and another shotblocker...

[I. Hustle]

sources???

He said THEY

[dougp]

sources???

Here he is taking the call:

http://www.laffyerassoff.com/funny-pictures/people/II/heads-up-2.jpg

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

I doubt he comes here. He will probably see Boston as the better chance at a title.

That being said...I wouldn't mind having him at the end of the bench.

I'm not sure why he would see Boston as a better chance. Last year that was (obviously) the case. I don't think last year's team was quite as good as this year's version, and more importantly, Ginobili wasn't healthy against the Lakers. What's more... whoever came out of the west had a tougher, more exhausting road to the finals.

This year, the Spurs have added some younger legs, better perimeter shooting, and more depth. Also, the emergence of Cleveland will keep the Celtics from getting a nearly free ticket out of the east.

I don't think Boston's big 3 has anything over a healthy Spurs big 3. Not for a second. And this year, the Spurs supporting cast is every bit as solid as the Celtics'.

The greatness of this Spurs team is not yet apparent as it is with the Celtics (due to early injuries, and the Spurs annual ritual of mentally skipping the first half of the season)... but it will be apparent in a couple months, provided the big-3 is healthy.

Should be ONE HELL of a post-season next year! A Spurs/Lakers showdown in the west, and a Cavs/Celtics shootout in the east.

I can't remember a time when the NBA was this competitive.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

It is official Deke is a Rocket again.... :(


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3800585

[WalterBenitez]

DEKE on Spurs, come on FO!!! He's old, really old!!! You like those kind of guys, right?

For some reason we are the oldest team :p:

[pawe]

It is official Deke is a Rocket again.... :(


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3800585

We should have a Vbookie on just how many games he's going to be able to play this year.