Texas has some shady recruiting tactics

[Thunder Dan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/26/sports/ncaafootball/26recruit.html?_r=3&ref=sports&pagewanted=all

[leemajors]

he sounds like a first class wuss. sounded like a badass party.

[Thunder Dan]

he sounds like a first class wuss. sounded like a badass party.

Yeah, by 'shady' I was talking about the racial stuff. I have no problem with free drugs, women and booze for recruits, that's S.O.P. for college.

[leemajors]

he just sounds like such a wuss, and probably needs to quit relying on his mom for everything. he's gonna have to grow up at some point. then again, lufkin and east texas in general are just weird places.

[The Reckoning]

what a bitch. i would've gone to as many of those parties as possible.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

screw that sooner POS

[j-6]

This kid wondered if he could land a job in Texas with an OU degree. Did he not talk to a single carpetbagging Texan while he was in Norman? He was probably too busy scoring the tamer party environment while texting his Pentecostal mother. Anyone else catch that the woman making this decision doesn't ever watch him play?

All the under-the-table money and wild parties were sort of a given for the top defensive recruit in the state. Was he expecting fruit punch and cookies? Colt probably praised Jesus for all the free booze and skirt on his visit.

[J.T.]

Yeah, by 'shady' I was talking about the racial stuff. I have no problem with free drugs, women and booze for recruits, that's S.O.P. for college.

Maybe free drugs is SOP for college football or beating OU parties but bullshit it's SOP for the rest of us. Maybe if you have a vagina and huge tits and put out for free lines of blow and needles loaded with heroin. You know this kid is going to come home for his first summer vacation chiefing on a Titan blunt and bumping rails at midnight after his mommy goes to sleep.

I could understand wanting to go to OU if your Mom went there, but just because Bob Stoops does a better house call than Mack Brown is a pretty shitty reason. Kid needs to realize that one day his mommy and grandma won't be there to hold his hand through big decisions in life.

Oh well, enjoy your four years at OU, Jamarkus. I'm sure you'll have fond memories at the Cotton Bowl, getting pieced by Colt McCoy en route to his Heisman and a Longhorns perfect season, and then three more times by Garret Gilbert after Colt moves on.

[Thunder Dan]

let me tell you, you have no lived until you have had a stroke from shooting heroin through your neck

[johngateswhiteley]

what a pussy. he should have gone to USC...he even knows. i bet his mom didn't want him going to school in L.A.; too far from Texas. how do you decide you want to go to SC and then a few days later eliminate it as an option? ....your mom.

[J.T.]

Kid does have some momma's boy issues. I bet he wins his first game in a Sooner uniform and then after the game, some cheerleader skeezies are asking him to come back to their dorm room for a three way and he'll call his mom to ask permission.

[David Wooderson]

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[DMX7]

This kid wondered if he could land a job in Texas with an OU degree.

He's a 5 star recruit and he's thinking 9 to 5 job and not NFL? This kid needs to get out more and stop calling his mother mamma.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I think it's respectable that he seeks advice from positive influences in his life. It's a better thing to do than listening to his "crew".

[Clandestino]

pentecostals are fuckinnnng crazy! he needs a better role model. obviously 75% of her sons turned out to be convicts!

[spurtime]

And orangebloods responded to this NYT freelance writing douchebag...

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=893523

This thing is gonna get ugly from what I can tell.

[The Reckoning]

And orangebloods responded to this NYT freelance writing douchebag...

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=893523

This thing is gonna get ugly from what I can tell.


"On top of that, the (UT) fan base is full of drunk, drugged-up sex maniacs that offered numerous bribes to secure the commitment of their son."

:toast:toast:toast

[spurtime]

"On top of that, the (UT) fan base is full of drunk, drugged-up sex maniacs that offered numerous bribes to secure the commitment of their son."

:toast:toast:toast

:lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Fuck that Jamarkus, that sooner peice of shit and his stupid peice of shit mother.

I hope this guy gets shanked by fellow drunken OU people in a norman bar.


This article has totally slandered my fucking school. All I can think of is somehow someway, OU pulled off the greatest media slander in our rivalry's history. They just blasted past us in recruiting edge for the next seven years. Will take forever to fully put this one to bed.

When Colt McCoy breaks his arms and legs in five places, and Sam Bradford sets every championship game record on the way to a victory, we can finally put this horrible horrible season behind us. Jesus Christ.

[spurtime]

I've sent emails to dozens of college football writers linking them to the NYT article and orangebloods' response. Apparently there's some stuff in the works to get UT's side of the story into the national media in a better way. We'll see what happens.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

But isn't it going to be tricky since the ncaa rules state that schools cannot directly respond to shit like this, right?

[spurtime]

Yeah, but nothing says that Austin American Statesman or various radio and/or internet outlets can't get the story out indirectly. The muzzle comes off on Senior signing day anyway. Check out these articles from barking carnival...the last one was written on 12/19 and was alluded to in the NYT piece.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/henryjames/why-is-the-new-york-times-losing-so-much-money

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/sailor-ripley/laffaire-mcfarland

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/trips-right/new-york-times-texas-hit-piece-regarding-mcfarland

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/trips-right/information-on-the-jamarkus-mcfarland-recruitment

[Kermit]

Yeah, but nothing says that Austin American Statesman or various radio and/or internet outlets can't get the story out indirectly. The muzzle comes off on Senior signing day anyway. Check out these articles from barking carnival...the last one was written on 12/19 and was alluded to in the NYT piece.

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/henryjames/why-is-the-new-york-times-losing-so-much-money

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/sailor-ripley/laffaire-mcfarland

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/trips-right/new-york-times-texas-hit-piece-regarding-mcfarland

http://www.barkingcarnival.com/trips-right/information-on-the-jamarkus-mcfarland-recruitment

It's Darrell Scott all over again. Memo to Mack and coaches; when the mother becomes more burdensome than the recruit, it's time to pack it in.

[spurtime]

It's Darrell Scott all over again. Memo to Mack and coaches; when the mother becomes more burdensome than the recruit, it's time to pack it in.

Its also the same NYT freelance hack who wrote the NYT article about Darrell Scott last year...Coincidence?

Said douchebag hack, Thayer Evans, writes an OU blog. lol

[pkbpkb81]

looks like the short horns are crying again damn its great to be a SOONER.

[spurtime]

looks like the short horns are crying again damn its great to be a SOONER.

Until your inevitable BCS collapse engineered by Sponge Bob Bowl Flop...

[pkbpkb81]

Until your inevitable BCS collapse engineered by Sponge Bob Bowl Flop...

say what you want but ou is playing in the only bowl game that matters and we will win this year. On top of that one of the best high school players in the country is going to come to ou and has called out texass for the cheaters they are.

I will say it again DAMN ITS GOOD TO BE A SOONER!!!!

[spurtime]

say what you want but ou is playing in the only bowl game that matters and we will win this year. On top of that one of the best high school players in the country is going to come to ou and has called out texass for the cheaters they are.

I will say it again DAMN ITS GOOD TO BE A SOONER!!!!

Texas has a better recruiting class that OU's according to every recruiting service and the trendline is in our direction having won 3 of the last 4. Makes it understandable that OU would go to such lengths to try and paint Texas in a bad light. Desperation and all.

Oh and here's my prediction for 01/08/09...

Florida 56
BlowU 31

[Ignignokt]

Texas has a better recruiting class that OU's according to every recruiting service and the trendline is in our direction having won 3 of the last 4. Makes it understandable that OU would go to such lengths to try and paint Texas in a bad light. Desperation and all.

Oh and here's my prediction for 01/08/09...

Florida 56
BlowU 31

this article seems to have been pretty fair.

The Darrell Scott article didn't have a bad thing to say about UT, so one can't use that excuse.

It seems to me, that OU wanted this one more than UT.

The article didn't blame UT coaches for drugs or booze. The article said that the party was held in Dallas by ut fans. No implications on the part of Texas were made here.

But what has been the same variable is the audacity, arrogance, and ruthlessness of Horn forums that tried to slime the opposing school. In both cases with Scott and JMac were these true.

Allegations of recruit bribery were being alleged not by the NYtimes at the Horns but by Orangebloods.

Orangebloods is a joke, and needs to have new management. They are the culprits more than anything.

And now they get what they deserve.

[pkbpkb81]

Texas has a better recruiting class that OU's according to every recruiting service and the trendline is in our direction having won 3 of the last 4. Makes it understandable that OU would go to such lengths to try and paint Texas in a bad light. Desperation and all.

Oh and here's my prediction for 01/08/09...

Florida 56
BlowU 31

really right now scouts has the sooner 09 class at number 2 and texas at number 3

what is the football resoning behind your prediction (and not likeing ou has nothing to do with the game)

a real prediction is ou 49

uf42

the gators have not seen a team with the wepons the sooners have

and ou hasent seen a team with the d that uf has so you have to ask yourself

are the offences in the big 12 good all cause the deffences suck or do the deffences suck becuse how great the offences are

now what about the sec are there offences bad becuse of great deffences or are the deffences great becuse of suck offences.

[Reggie Miller]

A "Sooner" is a cheater by definition, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sooner

[romad_20]

really right now scouts has the sooner 09 class at number 2 and texas at number 3

what is the football resoning behind your prediction (and not likeing ou has nothing to do with the game)

a real prediction is ou 49

uf42

the gators have not seen a team with the wepons the sooners have

and ou hasent seen a team with the d that uf has so you have to ask yourself

are the offences in the big 12 good all cause the deffences suck or do the deffences suck becuse how great the offences are

now what about the sec are there offences bad becuse of great deffences or are the deffences great becuse of suck offences.

The only thing that sucks is your spelling. I don't even know what you said.

[crc21209]

Well who fucking cares anyway, he's just another jackass whos going to Choke U. and gonna lose in all his bowl games anyway.

[spurtime]

really right now scouts has the sooner 09 class at number 2 and texas at number 3

what is the football resoning behind your prediction (and not likeing ou has nothing to do with the game)

a real prediction is ou 49

uf42

the gators have not seen a team with the wepons the sooners have

and ou hasent seen a team with the d that uf has so you have to ask yourself

are the offences in the big 12 good all cause the deffences suck or do the deffences suck becuse how great the offences are

now what about the sec are there offences bad becuse of great deffences or are the deffences great becuse of suck offences.

Well, espn has UT #3 and OU #11, and Rivals has UT #3 and OU #7...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/classrankings

http://texas.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=902

As for OU/Florida...I think Florida will run right through OU's porous defense and Florida will get some stops against OU. Florida will pull away in the 2nd half imo.

[spurtime]

this article seems to have been pretty fair.

The Darrell Scott article didn't have a bad thing to say about UT, so one can't use that excuse.

It seems to me, that OU wanted this one more than UT.

The article didn't blame UT coaches for drugs or booze. The article said that the party was held in Dallas by ut fans. No implications on the part of Texas were made here.

But what has been the same variable is the audacity, arrogance, and ruthlessness of Horn forums that tried to slime the opposing school. In both cases with Scott and JMac were these true.

Allegations of recruit bribery were being alleged not by the NYtimes at the Horns but by Orangebloods.

Orangebloods is a joke, and needs to have new management. They are the culprits more than anything.

And now they get what they deserve.

McFarland admitted today to the story being "spiced up". lol

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=893953

Not surprisingly, the psycho mother stood by it. This ain't over. Theyer Evans needs to explain why he would use a school paper in the article without asking whether it was true. Either Jamarkus or Thayer allowed a lie to be disseminated.

[pkbpkb81]

Well, espn has UT #3 and OU #11, and Rivals has UT #3 and OU #7...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/classrankings

http://texas.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=902

As for OU/Florida...I think Florida will run right through OU's porous defense and Florida will get some stops against OU. Florida will pull away in the 2nd half imo.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2009

souts has ou at number 2 and texas at number 3 pluse they show ou with 2 players that the have the other two sites dont have on there yet.

where are the numbers to prove your point did you know that ou has a faster d than anyone that uf has played.

[spurtime]

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2009

souts has ou at number 2 and texas at number 3 pluse they show ou with 2 players that the have the other two sites dont have on there yet.

where are the numbers to prove your point did you know that ou has a faster d than anyone that uf has played.

They all have OU with the same # of recruits so I think you're wrong on that...

as to your 2nd point...

OU's "fast d" has gotten torched all season. Florida has weapons all over the field. If UT and Ok St. can hang 40+ on them Florida can hang 50+ on them.

[spurtime]

Chicago Sun Times with the Thayer Thlap Down...

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2008/12/jamarkus_mcfarland_oklahoma_re.html


Jamarkus McFarland: Oklahoma recruit's English paper was a work of fiction, not fit to print in NYT
By
Kevin Allen
on December 28, 2008 7:05 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)
For a guy who's never played a single down of college football, Oklahoma Sooner signee Jamarkus McFarland is sure making a lot of headlines.

A couple days ago, we praised an article by New York York Times freelancer Thayer Evans that detailed the recruiting process that McFarland and his mother endured. Rivals.com is reporting today that McFarland is denying pieces of the NYT article that were lifted from a paper he wrote for his English class.

From the NYT article:

But the best summation of his experience might have come from a paper he wrote for his English class comparing Oklahoma and Texas. The paper, "Red River Rivals Recruit," includes a description of a wild party hosted by Longhorns fans at an upscale hotel in Dallas after the Oklahoma-Texas game on Oct. 11.


"I will never forget the excitement amongst all participants," McFarland wrote. "Alcohol was all you can drink, money was not an option. Girls were acting wild by taking off their tops, and pulling down their pants. Girls were also romancing each other. Some guys loved every minute of the freakiness some girls demonstrated. I have never attended a party of this magnitude."


The rebuke comes from Rivals.com:

McFarland said he embellished a passage taken from the English paper detailing free alcohol and drugs and topless women at a party of Texas fans in Dallas.


"Some things we knew were kind of mixed up because (the reporter) got a paper of mine," McFarland said. "The paper I wrote for an English class - it was spiced up a little bit for class. But a majority of it was correct.


McFarland tells Rivals.com that he and his mother stand by the rest of the article and that the majority of the English paper was not embellished.

Still, I admit that my previous praise of Evans' work was a bit premature if the "best summation of his experience" is, in fact, fictionalized or "spiced up" as McFarland puts it.

I'd be interested to speak with Evans directly about this, but until that happens I can only speak for myself. As a journalist who has covered a broad range of topics, I would never quote pieces of an unpublished document without first confirming its veracity with the author. That's J-105 stuff for you fellow Missouri Tigers out there. While nothing in the article explicitly says so, the reader gets the impression that the English paper is something that McFarland shared with the reporter and was aware the reporter would be making public. That it wasn't (and he didn't) is irresponsible and shady. The English paper is presented as fact in the article. To not have verified it as the legitimate claim of a source is lazy journalism.

It's a shame Evans didn't do his due diligence on this piece. Without this glaring and inexcusable flaw, it's a great piece of journalism and a compelling story.

[chode_regulator]

couldnt even finish the article

what a chode

grow up and dont let "momma" control your life

[CubanSucks]

say what you want but ou is playing in the only bowl game that matters and we will win this year. On top of that one of the best high school players in the country is going to come to ou and has called out texass for the cheaters they are.

I will say it again DAMN ITS GOOD TO BE A SOONER!!!!

The only thing he called out was himself for being a little mommas boy bitch who's afraid to have a fucken badass time at those parties. If he wasn't as big as he is, that paper he wrote would have made him the laughing stock of Lufkin High for being such a pussy. And fuck his mom and the "race" issues. From what it sounds like his mom feels that her glorious son, WHO BY THE WAY SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN PLAY!?!?!?, is entitled to more attention and dick sucking because he's black. Mack Brown laid down some badass comments with the "who's house do you like better" and saying they're done visiting unless asked.

[Kermit]

this article seems to have been pretty fair.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[pkbpkb81]

They all have OU with the same # of recruits so I think you're wrong on that...

as to your 2nd point...

OU's "fast d" has gotten torched all season. Florida has weapons all over the field. If UT and Ok St. can hang 40+ on them Florida can hang 50+ on them.

they still have ou ranked higher then texas.


florida hasent played anyone with wepons that ou has, and yes ut and okst did put up big numbers against the sooners but thats was after several key defenders for ou all but one will be back for that game

[pkbpkb81]

A "Sooner" is a cheater by definition, moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sooner

yes it is i never said diffrent jackass.

and that dosent change the fact that what went on at that party was a ncaa violation.

[leemajors]

yes it is i never said diffrent jackass.

and that dosent change the fact that what went on at that party was a ncaa violation.

come on man, can you be this stupid? no one affiliated with UT was at this party. Definitely sounds like there was some stuff that was legally wrong, but jesus pull your head out of your ass.

[Kermit]

yes it is i never said diffrent jackass.

and that dosent change the fact that what went on at that party was a ncaa violation.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

You mean, the fantasy party that was embellished? Do you still think that the story holds water? You are a fucking moron if that's the case. A retard of the lowest order.

[spurtime]

yes it is i never said diffrent jackass.

and that dosent change the fact that what went on at that party was a ncaa violation.

He wasn't at a Texas party. He was at the Dyer Street Bar in Dallas with three people who all commented about the NYT piece and said that the paper was a fabrication. Either Thayer Evans, the NYT writer, or JaMarkus McMommasboy are lying.

Here's the article...It's premium content so I'll cut and paste it.

Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist

Talk about it in Inside the 40 Acres
The uncle of highly recruited Lufkin defensive tackle Jamarkus McFarland said he believes his nephew wants to attend Texas, but that McFarland's mother, Kashemeyia Adams, influenced her son to give his commitment to Oklahoma.

"I really believe that Jamarkus had his heart set on playing at Texas," Tony McFarland, Jamarkus' uncle, who lives in Houston told Orangebloods.com. "And he even said that. He wanted to go to Texas, and somehow, or someway his mind got changed and he wasn't going to go against his mother. His mother wanted him to go to Oklahoma and something happened with her and Texas."


Jamarkus McFarland's Christmas-day commitment has created a stir among recruiting fans.
Tony McFarland's comments came after several inflammatory statements about Texas were made by Adams to the New York Times in a story about McFarland's recruitment. Jamarkus McFarland committed to Oklahoma on Christmas Day.

In the New York Times story, Adams said she was blocked from talking to Mack Brown by an assistant coach. She said Texas tried to run its recruitment through Jamarkus' high school coach at Lufkin, John Outlaw, who then was accused by Adams of trying to direct McFarland to Texas.

Adams also said Texas "went to sleep in the summertime" recruiting her son while Oklahoma "woke up." She said she was offended by decisions the Texas coaches made to back off of her son's recruitment earlier this month because they could sense tension between Adams and Jamarkus.

She also said she had received numerous offers of gifts in exchange for her son to attend Texas, although she didn't believe that Brown or anyone officially connected to Texas was involved or had any knowledge of the enticements, according to the Times.

Tony McFarland said he spoke with Jamarkus regularly near the end of the recruiting process and was surprised by Jamarkus' decision. He said Adams and Jamarkus were strongly leaning toward Texas at the beginning of the year.

"At first she was headstrong on Texas," Tony McFarland said. "For some reason, and I don't know why, she turned against Texas. When I asked, the thing was because the recruiter wouldn't let her talk to Mack Brown."

Sources close to McFarland's recruitment said Adams had Mack Brown's cell phone number and used it regularly this year and only recently stated she couldn't get through to Brown.

Adams did not return phone calls to comment for this story.

But Lufkin coach John Outlaw told Orangebloods.com Texas appeared to handle itself professionally throughout McFarland's recruitment.

"Texas started recruiting JaMarkus when he was a 10th grader and conducted itself absolutely in a professional manner through the whole process, in my opinion," Outlaw said. "They didn't do anything wrong. They did everything the way you would want it done from what I saw. And I just want it clear that never in 30 years of coaching have I encouraged a kid to go anywhere other than where he wanted to go. That's all I'm going to say about it."

When Texas coaches told Adams in an e-mail earlier this month they were going to back off and give Jamarkus some distance because they sensed tension between mother and son, Tony McFarland said he agreed with the move and didn't consider it a slight in any way.

"The incident where they wrote the email to Jamarkus about leaving him alone for the time being, we talked before they did that," Tony McFarland said. "(Will Muschamp) let me know what they were going to do. I told him I thought that was best because of the way she was going off on Texas.

"But he did say he wanted Jamarkus to have a scholarship, he was still welcome at Texas, Texas still wanted him but they were going to back off because they didn't want to break up the family."


McFarland is the nation's second-ranked defensive tackle prospect.
A highly-placed source in Lufkin that talked to McFarland shortly after the email was sent by Texas indicated that McFarland, like his uncle, approved of Texas taking a step back.

"Jamarkus said he was really relieved and he thought it was a really classy thing that Texas did that," the Lufkin source said.

The New York Times quotes a paper McFarland wrote for a class in which he talked in a discouraging tone about a wild party in Dallas thrown by Longhorn fans after the Texas-Oklahoma game this year in which there was alcohol, drugs and women taking off their clothes.

McFarland told Rivals.com on Sunday that he "spiced things up" in the paper, and three sources who were with McFarland that night said McFarland experienced nothing of the kind.

The sources, who agreed to talk on condition of anonymity, said McFarland spent most of the night with Texas fans at the Dyer Street Bar near the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas, where McFarland was staying.

"There were no girls there taking off their clothes like it was alleged. I also didn't see any drugs. This was just a regular bar," said one source with McFarland that night.

"The whole night he was there and he just stood against the wall and watched everyone. One of his friends was dancing with some girls, but he stayed really calm and didn't do anything the entire night."

A second source with McFarland that night said, "We were at the Dyer Street Bar and that's where we saw him for most of the night. I was pretty pissed off when I read the article because there wasn't any drug use and, as nice as it would have been to see girls all over each other, there wasn't any of that either."

A third source with McFarland that night said, "I was with him at various times throughout the night and there were not any drugs or women that took their clothes off. We were all in a couple of bars, but there really never was a party. There was just a lot of people drinking and having a good time. I was shocked to read what was reported."

When asked if there was any chance that McFarland could have left the bar and gone to a wild party before he eventually checked back into his room at the Sheraton Hotel, the third source said, "No, none of that happened. After we left the bar, he was back in the hotel room sleeping when I saw him again. That wasn't long after we left the bar and returned back to the hotel that we were all staying at."

When Mack Brown was asked about the McFarland case and The New York Times article written by Thayer Evans, Brown told The Dallas Morning News he would not comment on McFarland (per NCAA rules) but was willing to comment on the newspaper article.

Asked by the Morning News if he had any knowledge of possible recruiting improprieties, Brown answered: "Absolutely not. We encourage the NCAA to check out every player we're recruiting ever year. We call them and ask them to. We welcome them there."

Brown was critical of a piece authored by Evans last season about California running back Darrell Scott, who eventually chose Colorado over Texas on national signing day.

"One-sided stories usually don't make it when sources aren't checked on the other side," Brown said. "The story has absolutely no credibility with me because the writer did the same thing exactly last year and it's obvious he has an agenda, in my mind, against Texas."

Neither Brown nor Texas athletic spokesman John Bianco said they were contacted by the Times for comment before publication.

Evans provided a brief statement to the Morning News and Orangebloods.com on Monday night.

"The article speaks for itself. We will continue to follow the story," Evans said.

Tony McFarland simply hopes Jamarkus McFarland is following his heart.

"What I told Marcus was, 'At some point and time, you have to make a decision for you and do what's best for Marcus.' What he came out saying was basically, 'I'm not going to go against mom and I'm going to go to Oklahoma.'

"The thing that I want to convey is that I believe that Marcus really wanted to go to Texas. I believe he had a change of heart due to his mom and the recruiting process. That's the way things happen. That's the way things go. I'm not here to say anything bad about her, Texas or Oklahoma. Both programs are great programs and I think they handled Jamarkus the way that they saw fit.

"Jamarkus still loves Texas. I think if it was totally up to him, he would be at Texas. But it came down to a decision of what his mom liked, and that's which way he went. At first, Jamarkus loved Texas. Due to his mom, he had a change of heart. He didn't want to go against his mother and that's basically the way the story went."

Tony McFarland said he talked to Jamarkus on Christmas day, after the commitment had been made, and he said the entire family supports Jamarkus' final decision.

"I told him 'We're behind you.' We're behind Jamarkus 100 percent," he said.

[Note:] Geoff Ketchum and Jason Suchomel contributed to this report.

[Biggems]

all i know is UT players tend to have a lot more success in the NFL over the past 2 decades than OU players.

Yes they party hard at UT, the #1 party school in the nation, but Brown also produces a large amount of quality pro players. I would put UT just behind USC, tOSU, Miami, and Michigan for the number of quality prospects over the last 2 decades.

[pkbpkb81]

all i know is UT players tend to have a lot more success in the NFL over the past 2 decades than OU players.

Yes they party hard at UT, the #1 party school in the nation, but Brown also produces a large amount of quality pro players. I would put UT just behind USC, tOSU, Miami, and Michigan for the number of quality prospects over the last 2 decades.

they also put out the most qb's that try to kill them selves.

[pkbpkb81]

and they have the best pothead runninf back in the game today

[spurtime]

Way to raise the level of the debate, pkb...You seem like a very virtuous individual.

[pkbpkb81]

Way to raise the level of the debate, pkb...You seem like a very virtuous individual.

it was funny. and it was nothing personal about anyone here which is more then i can say for the great ut fans on here

[CubanSucks]

and they have the best pothead runninf back in the game today

so

[spurtime]

it was funny. and it was nothing personal about anyone here which is more then i can say for the great ut fans on here

Yeah, suicide's hilarious...

[pkbpkb81]

in this case it is so why dont you call vince and the two of you can have a good cry about it.

[pkbpkb81]

and they have the best pothead runninf back in the game today

wow so on monday i am leaveing for miami maybe iam already getting a comtcat high from ricky

[spurtime]

in this case it is so why dont you call vince and the two of you can have a good cry about it.

The only crying that should be done is by the momma who raised you and the teachers who taught you. They obviously failed miserably.