Game Blog: 12/27/08 - Spurs vs. Grizzlies

[timtonymanu]

Tim. Bruce. Our two best defenders are out.

[Trainwreck2100]

now our 1st team defense guys are out

[amy020]

M Gasol with 5 fouls, we should try to attack the rim

[Biggems]

how bittersweet would it be if KT led us to victory without Timmy

bittersweet? huh?

it would be super sweet, cause it is something we wouldnt expect.

[loveforthegame]

Pop should reward Udoka for his good play tonight.

Oh well, hopefully Mason comes up big.

[ducks]

3:48 MEM - R. Gay hits the second free throw
3:48 MEM - R. Gay misses the first free throw
3:48 SA - R. Mason enters game for B. Bowen
3:48 SA - Shooting foul on B. Bowen
4:05 SA - K. Thomas offensive rebound
4:05 SA - Layup by K. Thomas

[Ice009]

How about 3 seconds?

[loveforthegame]

Any reason why Finley can't get some shots?

[raspsa]

bittersweet? huh?

it would be super sweet, cause it is something we wouldnt expect.

:toast

[ducks]

3:09 MEM - 20 sec timeout
3:27 MEM - R. Gay defensive rebound
3:28 SA - M. Ginobili misses a 23-foot three-pointer from the right corner

[JohnnySixString]

Are we sure they got all the crooked refs?

[jbspurs]

How about 3 seconds?

more like 5 seconds! lol

[SpurAddict561]

live by the 3, die by the 3.....damnit

[Spurs Brazil]

DAMN Manu

[SpurAddict561]

damnit Manu!

[JohnnySixString]

Stupid layups aren't falling....try something else.

[TwAnKiEs]

:lmao at all that shit that just happened

[ducks]

2:54 MEM - M. Gasol defensive rebound
2:56 SA - M. Ginobili misses a 4-foot jumper in the lane
3:02 SA - M. Ginobili defensive rebound
3:04 MEM - R. Gay misses a 14-foot jumper from the left wing

manu must be tired

[loveforthegame]

Ginobli is better than this.

[timtonymanu]

Tp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SpurAddict561]

KT with the steal

let's go damnit!

[024]

anytime ginobili wants to show up..

[Admidave50]

+3, D-e-f-e-n-s-e

[ducks]

2:28 SA - K. Thomas steals the ball from O. Mayo
2:31 MEM - O. Mayo defensive rebound
2:33 SA - T. Parker misses a layup
2:39 SA - K. Thomas defensive rebound

[ducks]

2:08 SA - T. Parker makes a 20-foot jumper from the left wing

[SpurAddict561]

KT with a shot, a steal 2 key rebounds and a block so far

gooooooo boyyyy

[duncan228]

Parker making it happen.

[timtonymanu]

Tp!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ducks]

Ginobli is better than this.

he is tired

[Spurs Brazil]

Tony fucking Parker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[TwAnKiEs]

Kurt FTMFW!!!!

[Quiet Strength]

Thomas's and Finley's defense have been huge

[pawe]

Yes TP!!!!

[Admidave50]

TP, Yes!

All haters can go to sleep

[loveforthegame]

Parker refuses to lose.

[SpurAddict561]

There's your SUPER SWEET, Big

hahahaha

[ducks]

1:19 MEM - Full timeout (Timeout #6)
1:19 SA - T. Parker makes a 20-foot jumper from the left wing
1:38 SA - T. Parker defensive rebound
1:40 MEM - R. Gay misses a layup
up 5

[Chieflion]

The broadcast fucked up. I can't see the game.

[Ice009]

Tony awesome.

[Warlord23]

Tp is the second coming!

[SpurAddict561]

Player of the game = Kurttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs up 5

[ducks]

this win would be without bowen and duncan
out with foul trouble
big mentally w if spurs hang on

[loveforthegame]

Thomas's and Finley's defense have been huge

Who would have thought that?

[ducks]

oh oh tp shot 25 times so far

[Biggems]

memphis is getting away with all kinds of violations. Since the 4th quarter, the refs have missed a couple of obvious traveling calls, 1 over and back, 2 palming (including one on the last Grizzlies possession), a couple of 3 second violations....

[SpurAddict561]

Kurt Thomas with a BITTERSWEET moral victory for HIMSELF

!!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

Fuck this Mayo shit

[loveforthegame]

Fuck Mayo.

[ducks]

tp missed 3 shots by getting them blocked on his layups
2 in overtime

[SpurAddict561]

god damnit

we need to put this shit away

Mayo is killing us!

[ducks]

:48.9 MEM - Q. Ross defensive rebound
:50.9 SA - T. Parker misses a layup
1:11 MEM - O. Mayo makes a 24-foot three-pointer from the left wing. Assist: M. Gasol
1:19 MEM - Full timeout (Timeout #6)

[Josepatches_]

this win would be without bowen and duncan
out with foul trouble
big mentally w if spurs hang on

But against the Grizz.
We have to win every game against them even without TD or Bowen

[SpurAddict561]

Mayo is racking up stats for my fantasy shit but FUCK HIM!

[Kori Ellis]

tp missed 3 shots by getting them blocked on his layups
2 in overtime

Well I'd imagine he's a little tired :lol

[Reck]

What is it with Parker missing layups when the game is on the line. Man o man

[Biggems]

too bad Finley is so small, cause Gasol was all over his back.

[ducks]

14.8 MEM - M. Conley misses a 26-foot three-pointer from the left wing
:28.4 SA - Personal foul on T. Parker

[Trainwreck2100]

conley was too open there

[jbspurs]

god damnit

we need to put this shit away

Mayo is killing us!


Don't worry we have Mustard and Ketchup!

[Spurs Brazil]

Grizz ball with 14 secs to go

Spurs up 2

[pawe]

this is where mental toughness will come into play.

[SpurAddict561]

holy shit

12 seconds, defense let's lock it down

NO THREES!!!!!!!

[Warlord23]

Goddamnit we cannot seem to put them away

[Biggems]

No Threes Please

[Ice009]

Stop saying who missed what. TP is playing hard out there.

[loveforthegame]

Way to secure the rebound.

[ducks]

12.9 MEM - 20 sec timeout
:13.8 MEM - Team rebound
:14.8 MEM - M. Conley misses a 26-foot three-pointer from the left wing

[JohnnySixString]

Let's see what the Spurs' defense does.....

[spursparker9]

defense baby

[Spurs Brazil]

Fuck yes Thomas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[loveforthegame]

too bad Finley is so small, cause Gasol was all over his back.

How was that not an over the back call?

[Reck]

Yes

[JohnnySixString]

Holy shit!

[TwAnKiEs]

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 !!!!1!1!!!!1!one!!!!!

[Warlord23]

Defense!

[Ice009]

Kt Unbelievable!!!!

[SpurAddict561]

Roger Mason with the REBOUNDDDDDD

[Reck]

Thomas is the fucking man. Woooo Thank you

[Spurs Brazil]

Finley and Thomas HUGE D

[ducks]

01.0 SA - 20 sec timeout
:01.0 MEM - Personal foul on Q. Ross
:01.0 SA - R. Mason defensive rebound
:02.9 MEM - R. Gay offensive rebound
:02.9 MEM - R. Gay misses a layup
:04.9 MEM - O. Mayo misses a layup

[Admidave50]

2 straight blocks, props to the Defense

[loveforthegame]

Thomas was huge defensively tonight. Can't say enough about his effort with Duncan out.

[SpurAddict561]

I told you

Kurt....BITTERSWEET

lock it up!

hahah

[Borosai]

Did Finley get a block too? (I can't watch the game)

[pawe]

KURT and FIN with the blocks!!! Spurs defense is the best!!!

[RashoFan]

What did KT do?

[cnyc3]

what did kurt do!?? i didnt see :(

[jbspurs]

How was that not an over the back call?

On who?

[Il Caraibico]

D!

[Borosai]

Nice.

[Spurs Brazil]

Fuck the Grizz and their anoying announcers

[pawe]

grizz color guys can suck my dick!

[timtonymanu]

Kurt fuckin Thomas!!!

[ploto]

Actually Memphis got fouled on both shots but you will never get that call.

[Warlord23]

Kurt blocked Mayo, Fin blocked Gay

[Ice009]

Why does Finley inbound. Unbelievable. That was BAD.

[ploto]

Spurs fans should not be excited that it took two overtimes to beat a team that played last night and has won 2 road games all year.

[loveforthegame]

Finley and Thomas with big blocks and some much needed defense in OT.

[ducks]

Actually Memphis got fouled on both shots but you will never get that call.

why do you post here troll

[TwAnKiEs]

uh-oh .5 I'm scared :wow

[Quiet Strength]

Actually Memphis got fouled on both shots but you will never get that call.

lol no

[benefactor]

have you played nba games 6 games in 9 nights
that is what spurs are doing tonight
What is that old saying about excuses and assholes? Duncan had like 2 boards going into the 4th. Unacceptable. We won this game but it sure feels like a loss.

[SpurAddict561]

GAY MAYO

defeated by KURT FINLEY

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warlord23]

Actually Memphis got fouled on both shots but you will never get that call.

Huh? I don't get it .. which soft Euro Grizzly are you swooning over? Not Darko, of all people?

[TampaDude]

Way to close it out, guys!!! GO SPURS GO!!!!! :flag:

[timtonymanu]

Kurt Thomas, Bruce Bowen, and Michael Finley = our key vets today.

[Killakobe81]

No foul rEALLY GOOD DEFENSE but THERE ARE LOT'SOF OTHERS SPURS GET AWAY WITH ...bUT WHAT i WOULD SAY ...mEMPHIS LOST THIS GAME ...
by forcing to ball to Rudy Gay when Mayo was having the better game ...
Good gut check win by Spurs mad props!

[ducks]

Spurs fans should not be excited that it took two overtimes to beat a team that played last night and has won 2 road games all year.

spurs have played several games on short rest
people will not look at how they got it
they just look at the loss and win record
you fool

[Dex]

Spurs are making this game tougher than it needs to be. Missing shots they usually make, giving up the boards, and still haven't figured out the combo to Mayo's lock.

Need to pick it up soon, otherwise I see the Grizzlies hanging tough and this being a nail-biter. I'm sure this team is sick of losing to the Spurs.

[Spurs Brazil]

OJ Mayo is a great player

He and Gasol played fantastic

[JohnnySixString]

Thank god that fucking shit is over....and with a win no less.

[SpursPreacher]

Kurt thomas was huge he deserves alot of love after that.Hitting a shot,rebounding,blocking shots.

[pawe]

Darn these Spurs are gonna give me a heart attack.

[Reck]

Hell yes.

But the OTs are killing us. This Spurs team has been involved in too many OTs this season.

[ICE3000]

Actually Memphis got fouled on both shots but you will never get that call.


Spurs fans should not be excited that it took two overtimes to beat a team that played last night and has won 2 road games all year.

WILL YOU JUST STFU ALREADY!!:bang

[Borosai]

Wow. The Spurs finally get some rest, and this win, however ugly, is a good thing.

[Ice009]

Spurs fans should not be excited that it took two overtimes to beat a team that played last night and has won 2 road games all year.

Who said we're overly excited? I'm not excited that much at all cause I know we played an average game, but I'm still very happy to get the win.

Get the fuck out of here. Go watch the fucking Pacers. You seem to be a bitter troll.

[Ghazi]

The Spurs are not as good as their record; Mayo got hacked at the end.

[ducks]

spurs get another w
that is what matters
I take the w
and no one was hurt

[ploto]

spurs have played several games on short rest
people will not look at how they got it
they just look at the loss and win record
you fool

I am talking about measuring how the Spurs are actually playing- not their record.

[024]

yeah.. there was a foul at the end but no call i guess. game was wayyy to close, spurs should not have to go double overtime to beat the grizzlies.

[ducks]

The Spurs are not as good as their record; Mayo got hacked at the end.

no kidding they are better
had they been healthy all season they would have mybe 4 losses

[urunobili]

GAY MAYO

defeated by KURT FINLEY

[Reck]

The Spurs are not as good as their record; Mayo got hacked at the end.

Intelligent post.

[urunobili]

Fuck the Grizz and their anoying announcers

+1

[pawe]

Why was Hill not playing? Tolliver, Mason and Hill with 0 points.

[spursfan09]

hell yeah! entertaining game! And screw whoever thinks we shouldn't be excited over this win. Geez get a life and let us celebrate the way we as Spur fans want to!

[duncan228]

Final: Spurs 106, Grizzlies 103 (2OT) (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/2008/12/game-blog-spurs-vs-grizzlies.html)

SECOND OVERTIME

Tony Parker scored 10 points in the overtimes and Kurt Thomas held down the defense inside after Tim Duncan fouled out as the Spurs beat the Memphis Grizzlies 106-103 in double overtime.

An O.J. Mayo 3-pointer cut the Spurs' lead to 105-103. The Grizzlies have the ball with 12.9 seconds left in the second OT. The shot clock is off.

Tony Parker hit back-to-back jumpers and the Spurs lead 105-100 with 1:19 left in the second overtime. The Grizzlies haven't made a basket in the period.

The Spurs lost another player. Bruce Bowen fouled out with 3:48 left in the second overtime and the Spurs leading 101-99. Memphis' Rudy Gay made one of two free throws and the Spurs still led 101-100.

Kurt Thomas made the first basket of the second OT when he grabbed an offensive rebound and put it back in. The basket accounted for his first points of the game.

FIRST OVERTIME

Marc Gasol made one of two free throws to tie it 99-99 with 7.4 seconds left in overtime. We're headed to a second OT.

Tony Parker's driving basket put the Spurs in front 99-98. The Grizzlies have the ball with 24.8 seconds left in the game and 20 seconds on the shot clock.

Tim Duncan fouled out with 1:13 left in OT. It's the first time this year he has fouled out. Kurt Thomas is in for Duncan.

FOURTH QUARTER: 90-90

The game is headed to overtime tied 90-90.

Tony Parker hit a pair of free throws with 47.2 seconds left to tie it 90-90. A defensive stop for the Spurs would go a long way right now.

After making only two 3-pointers in the first three quarters, the Spurs have hit four in the first 10 minutes of the fourth quarter - two by Michael Finley and one each by Manu Ginobili and Bruce Bowen. That is keeping them in the game.

Marc Gasol completed a three-point play and O.J. Mayo hit a jumper with 6:15 left to put the Grizzlies in front 79-76.

Michael Finley hit 3-pointers on back-to-back possession and a Tim Duncan basket put the Spurs in front 76-74 with 7:10 left for their first lead of the second half.

The game is getting a little rough in the fourth quarter. Tim Duncan was just hit with a technical with 8:58 left and the Grizzlies leading 70-68.

THIRD QUARTER

Tim Duncan scored 13 points in the third quarter and the period ended tied 66-66 after the Grizzlies led by as many as 11 points.

The Spurs are on a 7-0 run and look like they have some momentum building even though the Grizzlies still lead 57-53.

The Spurs look like they need a spark. They might have just gotten it from Bruce Bowen. He hit a 3-pointer, only the Spurs' second of the game, with 6:52 left in the third quarter.

Memphis' Marc Gasol had two baskets early in the second half. A Quinton Ross basket extended the Grizzlies' lead to 57-46.

SECOND QUARTER

The Grizzlies shot 51 percent from the field and outrebounded the Spurs 21-14 to take a 49-42 halftime lead.

The Grizzlies' Hakim Warrick scored 10 points in less than five minutes to carry Memphis to a 38-33 lead.

The Grizzlies made a 10-2 run early in the second to go in front 29-25 - their biggest lead so far.

The Spurs opened the second quarter with three guards - George Hill, Manu Ginobili and Roger Mason - and two big men - Matt Bonner and Kurt Thomas.

FIRST QUARTER

Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker combined to outscore the Grizzlies 10-2 at the end of the first quarter as the Spurs took a 23-18 lead.

Rudy Gay and O.J. Mayo helped break the Grizzlies out of their scoring slump. They went on an 8-0 run and lead 16-15.

The Spurs built an early 11-6 lead and coach Gregg Popovich didn't look happy. The obvious cause for concern was rebounding - the Grizzlies out-boarded the Spurs 6-1 to start the game. Memphis missed 7 of 8 shots to start the game. A Rudy Gay tip-in gave the Grizzlies' their second basket and cut the lead to 11-8 and led to Popovich calling a timeout.

PREGAME

Spurs starters: Tony Parker, Roger Mason Jr., Michael Finley, Tim Duncan and Matt Bonner.

Just before tipoff, the final play of the Spurs' Christmas day victory over the Suns was replayed on the big screen. Mason, who made the winning shot, was then given a rousing cheer when he was introduced with the starting lineup.

[ducks]

I am talking about measuring how the Spurs are actually playing- not their record.

spurs speak after march
they are just getting ready for their run in march
you would know that if you are a spur fan not a troll

[Johnny RIngo]

WILL YOU JUST STFU ALREADY!!:bang

Actually, I agree with him on both counts.

Spurs are not elite this year. Rebounding isn't good enough, bench is inconsistent, and the defense isn't there.

[jbspurs]

Hell yes.

But the OTs are killing us. This Spurs team has been involved in too many OTs this season.

This is good for the new guys, there will be tons of this come playoff.

[Obstructed_View]

It drives me crazy that the announcers cry about how unfair they were treated by the officials when Duncan and Bowen fouled out.

[Trainwreck2100]

fuck that game

[Spurs Brazil]

Why was Hill not playing? Tolliver, Mason and Hill with 0 points.

Because he played terrible D in the 2nd quarter just like the bad D he played in Phoenix

[ducks]

Why was Hill not playing? Tolliver, Mason and Hill with 0 points.

hill -14 in first half and no d

[ploto]

Get the fuck out of here. Go watch the fucking Pacers. You seem to be a bitter troll.

No- I am just honest and not a homer. Memphis got fouled but a young team will never get a call like that at the end of a game on the road.

This season Spurs fans get all excited about close wins over awful teams and then implode when they lose to the above .500 teams.

[Ghazi]

no kidding they are better
had they been healthy all season they would have mybe 4 losses

Not really... I'm not saying the Spurs are bad but one of their wins is a buzzer beater, and 3 in double overtime. That's usually "variance" more than it is "good basketall".

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

if the playoffs started today, it would be Spurs-Mavs round 1 :lol

[ICE3000]

The Spurs are not as good as their record; Mayo got hacked at the end.

:rolleyes :p:

[TwAnKiEs]

The Spurs are not as good as their record; Mayo got hacked at the end.

Take a ride!:toast

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[ducks]

I thought it would be suns vs spurs
spurs kick suns out again

[Ghazi]

spurs speak after march
they are just getting ready for their run in march
you would know that if you are a spur fan not a troll

this argument doesn't have any substance to it. The Spurs won 58+ in all of their championship runs and were winning by 7-8 points per game. So even if they were "half assing" the regular season, they sure as hell were better at it than the current edition.

[Warlord23]

No- I am just honest and not a homer. Memphis got fouled but a young team will never get a call like that at the end of a game on the road.

This season Spurs fans get all excited about close wins over awful teams and then implode when they lose to the above .500 teams.

Be honest and admit that you are now a Darko-worshipper to go along with your Rasho love. Damn you must be a piece of work to fall for soft Euros like that.

[spursfan09]

Not really... I'm not saying the Spurs are bad but one of their wins is a buzzer beater, and 3 in double overtime. That's usually "variance" more than it is "good basketall".

but its December. If you have followed the spurs over the years they play thier best in March. And so what if Spurs win at buzzer beaters, great teams find a way to win anyway.

[ducks]

spurs blow out mem the last 2 times they played them
it is not like they had barley beat them when they play them

good game from mem tonight

[Ice009]

No- I am just honest and not a homer. Memphis got fouled but a young team will never get a call like that at the end of a game on the road.

This season Spurs fans get all excited about close wins over awful teams and then implode when they lose to the above .500 teams.

I really don't see anyone here saying we're going to win the Championship after this game. I'm pretty sure everyone here is well aware we still have holes to fill and lots of improvement to be done to get to that higher level.

I really don't know what you're on about.

The Lakers nearly lose to these guys a couple of games ago. Do the Lakers suck? Plus Memphis probably had some confidence after playing the Lakers close and beating the Pacers last night. They're a young team and showed some good energy tonight.

[Bartleby]

Not really... I'm not saying the Spurs are bad but one of their wins is a buzzer beater, and 3 in double overtime. That's usually "variance" more than it is "good basketall".

The Spurs can finish close games. That's the mark of champion, but you wouldn't understand.

[fred33]

it was christmas that all

[ploto]

Be honest and admit that you are now a Darko-worshipper to go along with your Rasho love. Damn you must be a piece of work to fall for soft Euros like that.

You have no clue-- I do not like Darko at all. The guy is lazy and unstable.

[ducks]

Does Boston Suck They Lost To Gs?

[Ghazi]

The Spurs can finish close games. That's the mark of champion, but you wouldn't understand.


Margin of victory is a better indicator of future success than records in close games. In 2007 the Mavs had a great record in close games, the Spurs had a higher margin of victory and look what happened.

The Grizzlies sure as hell helped with missed FT's though, and Mayo was hacked on his final drive. Rudy was braindead and unclutch as well.

[ducks]

Margin of victory is a better indicator of future success than records in close games. In 2007 the Mavs had a great record in close games, the Spurs had a higher margin of victory and look what happened.

dirk chokes in playoffs
duncan >dirk

[TampaDude]

The Spurs can finish close games. That's the mark of champion, but you wouldn't understand.

+1 Clutchness is only realized in close games. :toast

[spursfan09]

Whats with all the fans of opposing teams telling us how to celebrate or how to act after a Spurs win? We know we didn't just win a championship, we know its only Dec. We know the Spurs still have 5 months or so to get thier shit together :rolleyes

[SpursPreacher]

Margin of victory is a better indicator of future success than records in close games. In 2007 the Mavs had a great record in close games, the Spurs had a higher margin of victory and look what happened.


The spurs had won titles and knew how to win,Dallas had dirk.Enough said.

[jbspurs]

A win is a WIN! Go worry about your teams!!!

[Reck]

Ghazi is stinged that The Spurs are kicking ass and taking name. Unlike a team we know...

Really though shut teh fuck up dude. It doesn't matter if the Spurs with by half a point. At the end what counts is the W. Bring on your fucking mavs..

[JohnnySixString]

Actually, I agree with him on both counts.

Spurs are not elite this year. Rebounding isn't good enough, bench is inconsistent, and the defense isn't there.

I'm not saying it's the same, but the Spurs looked this bad before and went on to win the trophy. They have time to get their shit together. Whether they do this season or not......

[ducks]

Does Boston Suck They Lost To Gs?

:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit

[Ghazi]

Ghazi is stinged that The Spurs are kicking ass and taking name. Unlike a team we know...

Really though shut teh fuck up dude. It doesn't matter if the Spurs with by half a point. At the end what counts is the W. Bring on your fucking mavs..

Wasn't it you yourself that was saying this team was not elite a few weeks ago?

I'm just saying the same thing; the Spurs quality of basketball is nowhere near the Cavs, Lakers, and Celtics right now... not only are they inferior to these teams as far as record and margin of victory, but they've needed a buzzer beater and 3 OT wins to amass that record.


That's all I said. The Spurs are definitely not "kicking ass lately"... they've just had a few close games that could've gone either way and have had a slew of cupcakes... they looked terrible in the Orlando game, and the night before against the Hornets.

[ducks]

Boston Lost To Gs Not The Spurs Hello

[TampaDude]

Wasn't it you yourself that was saying this team was not elite a few weeks ago?

I'm just saying the same thing; the Spurs quality of basketball is nowhere near the Cavs, Lakers, and Celtics right now... not only are they inferior to these teams as far as record and margin of victory, but they've needed a buzzer beater and 3 OT wins to amass that record.


That's all I said. The Spurs are definitely not "kicking ass lately"... they've just had a few close games that could've gone either way and have had a slew of cupcakes... they looked terrible in the Orlando game, and the night before against the Hornets.

Dude, take your ZERO championship having Mavs and shove them up your ass. A WIN is a WIN, bitch! :p:

[ducks]

spurs record would be as good as boston had tp and manu been healthy all season

[Warlord23]

Going by ploto's and Ghazi's logic, this season doesn't bode well for the following teams since they all struggled to beat inferior competition:

Boston: lost to Indiana and Golden State; beat Milwaukee and Indiana in OT; Beat Charlotte by 6
LA Lakers: Lost to Indiana, Sacramento, Miami; Beat NY and Washington by 2 pts each
Spurs: Beat Memphis and Minnesota in double OT; Lost to Miami and Portland (except for the Gizz game, they were without Manu for the others, but this doesn't count in Ploto-land)
Cavs: Beat Indiana and Washington by 4; Lost to Atlanta; Beat Milwaukee by 6

Damn, it seems like none of these teams are contenders. Yep, it's gonna be a Nets-Mavs finals in the end

[ducks]

you take kobe and gasol off the lakers as many games tp and manu missed they loss more games then what the spurs did

or and take paul and kg off boston and they loss more game then what the spurs did without tp and manu

[Reck]

Wasn't it you yourself that was saying this team was not elite a few weeks ago?

I'm just saying the same thing; the Spurs quality of basketball is nowhere near the Cavs, Lakers, and Celtics right now... not only are they inferior to these teams as far as record and margin of victory, but they've needed a buzzer beater and 3 OT wins to amass that record.


That's all I said. The Spurs are definitely not "kicking ass lately"... they've just had a few close games that could've gone either way and have had a slew of cupcakes... they looked terrible in the Orlando game, and the night before against the Hornets.

It's sad when someone pretends to see something that's not there.

Spurs have been winning games lately so yeah that's kicking ass and taking names. No matter which team or by how much. Its still a win.

Get passed your hate for the Spurs and see what's in front of your face.

[Johnny RIngo]

Wasn't it you yourself that was saying this team was not elite a few weeks ago?

I'm just saying the same thing; the Spurs quality of basketball is nowhere near the Cavs, Lakers, and Celtics right now... not only are they inferior to these teams as far as record and margin of victory, but they've needed a buzzer beater and 3 OT wins to amass that record.


That's all I said. The Spurs are definitely not "kicking ass lately"... they've just had a few close games that could've gone either way and have had a slew of cupcakes... they looked terrible in the Orlando game, and the night before against the Hornets.

Not to mention their dismal record vs .500 teams:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1844/nba500standingsor9.jpg

[jbspurs]

Going by ploto's and Ghazi's logic, this season doesn't bode well for the following teams since they all struggled to beat inferior competition:

Boston: lost to Indiana and Golden State; beat Milwaukee and Indiana in OT; Beat Charlotte by 6
LA Lakers: Lost to Indiana, Sacramento, Miami; Beat NY and Washington by 2 pts each
Spurs: Beat Memphis and Minnesota in double OT; Lost to Miami and Portland (except for the Gizz game, they were without Manu for the others, but this doesn't count in Ploto-land)
Cavs: Beat Indiana and Washington by 4; Lost to Atlanta; Beat Milwaukee by 6

Damn, it seems like none of these teams are contenders. Yep, it's gonna be a Nets-Mavs finals in the end



Year 2020!

[Ghazi]

Going by ploto's and Ghazi's logic, this season doesn't bode well for the following teams since they all struggled to beat inferior competition:

Boston: lost to Indiana and Golden State; beat Milwaukee and Indiana in OT; Beat Charlotte by 6
LA Lakers: Lost to Indiana, Sacramento, Miami; Beat NY and Washington by 2 pts each
Spurs: Beat Memphis and Minnesota in double OT; Lost to Miami and Portland (except for the Gizz game, they were without Manu for the others, but this doesn't count in Ploto-land)
Cavs: Beat Indiana and Washington by 4; Lost to Atlanta; Beat Milwaukee by 6

Damn, it seems like none of these teams are contenders. Yep, it's gonna be a Nets-Mavs finals in the end

Cleveland is winning by 12 points per game, LA and Boston are winning by around 9-10 points per game, San Antonio is winning by less than 4 points per game.

So it is fair to say that the Spurs do not get as much out of their offensive and defensive possessions as these teams. And you can't say that the early season injuries created this large of a gap.

I didn't mean to get off on a tangent, all I said is that the Spurs are not as good as their record (due to the abundance of close calls that they EASILY could've lost) and Mayo got hacked on his last drive.

[MarHill]

Some people don't understand NBA basketball.

First, this was the Spurs 7th game in 11 days and it definitely showed.

Second, whether the team is the Grizzlies or Thunder or Wizards...basketball is a rhythm game and those bad teams can come ready to play. The Grizzlies were in rhythm tonight and could have won the basketball game.

Third, Spurs fans just like any other fans are going to celebrate a 2OT win no matter who they're playing.

Lastly, it is a 82 game season and it's still late December...if you think the Spurs are a finished product then you haven't watched this team over the last 5 years. No one is saying the NBA title is theirs right now.....but for a team to have 20 wins in 30 games and after starting 0-3 and having Tony and Manu out for the first month of the season is excellent.

I'm glad they've won...because they could have laid down and lost the game!!!!

[ducks]

how many of those games above .500 teams did spurs face with a healthy manu and tp?

[SpursPreacher]

The spurs will be fine come playoff time.Plus its games like these that toughen them up.

[Biggems]

Spurs fans should not be excited that it took two overtimes to beat a team that played last night and has won 2 road games all year.

Pacers fans should not be excited about a team that has never won a Championship, and their claim to fame is the Malice in the Palace. But hey, at least yall still have the Colts and Indy 500.

[MarHill]

Cleveland is winning by 12 points per game, LA and Boston are winning by around 9-10 points per game, San Antonio is winning by less than 4 points per game.

So it is fair to say that the Spurs do not get as much out of their offensive and defensive possessions as these teams. And you can't say that the early season injuries created this large of a gap.

I didn't mean to get off on a tangent, all I said is that the Spurs are not as good as their record (due to the abundance of close calls that they EASILY could've lost) and Mayo got hacked on his last drive.

Also, the Spurs got hacked quite a bit in this game and didn't get the calls. The refs went both ways in this game. That's a lame excuse!!

[Warlord23]

Cleveland is winning by 12 points per game, LA and Boston are winning by around 9-10 points per game, San Antonio is winning by less than 4 points per game.

So it is fair to say that the Spurs do not get as much out of their offensive and defensive possessions as these teams. And you can't say that the early season injuries created this large of a gap.

I didn't mean to get off on a tangent, all I said is that the Spurs are not as good as their record (due to the abundance of close calls that they EASILY could've lost) and Mayo got hacked on his last drive.

Oh, so now you change your tune and bust out the Hollinger ppg differential stat! Well, the 2006 Miami Heat need to give their title back ... they only had a +3.9 PPG differential ... the Spurs led the league in PPG diff that year and should have had their 5th title! Injustice!

[Biggems]

Mayo has a huge hard on for the Spurs. I swear, he has a blood vendetta against us or something. It's like he has a very nice game (skillset), but when he plays the Spurs, he is able to go Emeril and kick it up several notches.......BAM.

My only solace is that they no longer have Miller. If they still had Miller, this most likely would have been a loss....since Miller, Gay, and Mayo all kill the Spurs.

[Obstructed_View]

Records of NBA teams since the San Antonio/Houston game:

Cleveland
18-2

Boston
19-3

San Antonio
18-5

LA Lakers
17-5

Good enough for me. I'll take an ugly win over any kind of loss any day of the week. The Spurs are 3-0 in double overtime games this year. Not bad for a bunch of old farts who weren't going to make the playoffs this year.

[Ghazi]

Oh, so now you change your tune and bust out the Hollinger ppg differential stat! Well, the 2006 Miami Heat need to give their title back ... they only had a +3.9 PPG differential ... the Spurs led the league in PPG diff that year and should have had their 5th title! Injustice!


That title was a fraud. The Spurs were the best team that year, but the Mavs got a little lucky v them and proceeded to get jobbed by the refs in the FInals.

[pawe]

I'd welcome this kind of games this point of the season. It builds up confidence, makes you mentally tough and the new spurs need the experience in closing out games. Great win by the Spurs.

[MarHill]

Not to mention their dismal record vs .500 teams:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1844/nba500standingsor9.jpg


This is a misleading statistic!!!

First of all they are 6-9 against .500 teams I could if they were 2-13 or 3-12 against those teams. So it's not great..but it's not terrible either!!

Plus good teams are supposed to beat bad teams. They didn't make the schedule and if they didn't win those games...you would be posting that Spurs can't even beat those teams.

Also, Cleveland, Boston, LA Lakers have beat a lot of bad teams as well to get their wins.

The whole schedule argument is lame......

Also, the Spurs schedule will get tougher as the season goes along and they will show themselves against the better teams.

[Borosai]

Championship!

[Biggems]

Cleveland is winning by 12 points per game, LA and Boston are winning by around 9-10 points per game, San Antonio is winning by less than 4 points per game.

So it is fair to say that the Spurs do not get as much out of their offensive and defensive possessions as these teams. And you can't say that the early season injuries created this large of a gap.

I didn't mean to get off on a tangent, all I said is that the Spurs are not as good as their record (due to the abundance of close calls that they EASILY could've lost) and Mayo got hacked on his last drive.

I agree the Spurs aren't as good as their record......they are better.

GO SPURS GO

[ploto]

Some people don't understand NBA basketball.

First, this was the Spurs 7th game in 11 days and it definitely showed.

You realize all the teams have to do this.

In January, the Pacers play 7 games in 11 days and then a week and a half later, they start a stretch of 6 games in 9 days. In February- 7 games in 11 days again. It is not a valid excuse.

[Warlord23]

That title was a fraud. The Spurs were the best team that year, but the Mavs got a little lucky v them and proceeded to get jobbed by the refs in the FInals.

OK, so how about these cases:

2000-01: Spurs +7.8, Kings +5.8, Lakers +3.4; champs - Lakers
2002-03: Mavs +7.8, Kings: +6.5, Spurs +5.4; champs - Spurs
2003-04: Spurs +7.2, Wolves +5.5, Kings +5.0, Lakers +3.9; WC champs - Lakers

You can also go back in time to the 1999 Knicks (8th seed) or the 1995 Rockets (6th seed) which came out of their respective conferences.

PPG differential doesn't factor in injuries (which the Spurs have had this year), trades / midseason signings (which any contending team might well have this year), playoff experience, matchups etc.

I'll wait till this year's playoffs actually play out before announcing anyone's demise

[Warlord23]

You realize all the teams have to do this.

In January, the Pacers play 7 games in 11 days and then a week and a half later, they start a stretch of 6 games in 9 days. In February- 7 games in 11 days again. It is not a valid excuse.

So by your count the Lakers, Celtics, Cavs and all other teams who've lost to and/or struggled with bad teams can give up now?

[spursfan09]

You realize all the teams have to do this.

In January, the Pacers play 7 games in 11 days and then a week and a half later, they start a stretch of 6 games in 9 days. In February- 7 games in 11 days again. It is not a valid excuse.

yes all teams have to do this, but does that mean we can't appreciate it that Spurs overcame the tough schedule?

[Biggems]

No- I am just honest and not a homer. Memphis got fouled but a young team will never get a call like that at the end of a game on the road.

This season Spurs fans get all excited about close wins over awful teams and then implode when they lose to the above .500 teams.


Tony got grabbed and then hacked by Conley and didnt get the call. In fact, Duncan cant seem to buy a call lately. Then there was the over and back in the 1st overtime by Memphis that wasn't called. Gay dribbles the ball off his foot, but the refs conveniently dont see it, so there is a jump ball, that the Spurs fortunately won.

[spursfan09]

I think opposing fans are just so eager to see the demise of the Spurs that when the Spurs don't die or go away that angers them. The Spurs are quietly making themselve legit contenders once again

[SpursDynasty]

Good win tonight, but we should have had this game put away by the first half. I don't know who the Grizzlies think they are, trying to come out and shoot some shots on us, trying to win this game. Losers.

[MarHill]

You realize all the teams have to do this.

In January, the Pacers play 7 games in 11 days and then a week and a half later, they start a stretch of 6 games in 9 days. In February- 7 games in 11 days again. It is not a valid excuse.

You are right!

That's my point!

Even bad teams are going to play well against good teams on nights like this.

So it is a valid excuse and they still won the game.

Boston just lost to GS on a back-to-back. So now is Boston a bad team?

Basketball is rhythm game and these are professionals and its a 82 game season.

I just dislike the fact that people overreact close wins against bad teams or if bad teams beat good teams during the season. It happens all the time!!!

[xellos88330]

I think opposing fans are just so eager to see the demise of the Spurs that when the Spurs don't die or go away that angers them. The Spurs are quietly making themselve legit contenders once again

+1

I have witnessed that first hand. Some dude took a swing at me for laughing at a bar during the Dallas/Spurs 2OT game. After he missed, he proceeded to apologize and explained that he is frustrated that the Spurs never go away.

[Ice009]

I didn't mean to get off on a tangent, all I said is that the Spurs are not as good as their record (due to the abundance of close calls that they EASILY could've lost) and Mayo got hacked on his last drive.

Tim Duncan got hacked against the Mavs game 7 last possession. WHY DON'T YOU JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[pawe]

I think opposing fans are just so eager to see the demise of the Spurs that when the Spurs don't die or go away that angers them. The Spurs are quietly making themselve legit contenders once again

This is exactly what my friends said to me. They hate the spurs because they're so good, they're like a sickness, they never go away plus they are suns fans.

[SpursDynasty]

I'm satisfied with a 20-10 record for now, but honestly all 20 wins were games we were supposed to win....the Dallas 2OT and Phoenix Christmas day game were fun to win though, and there were some BS losses that should have been wins too against Phoenix, Portland, Milwaukee, Houston, and New Orleans. We should be 25-5 right now.

[Budkin]

Damn I missed this one but it sounded like a nail biter! Glad to see the Spurs pull it out!

[Reck]

I think opposing fans are just so eager to see the demise of the Spurs that when the Spurs don't die or go away that angers them. The Spurs are quietly making themselve legit contenders once again

That's what Ghazi and company are suffering from.

They are only depressing themselves sadly.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know why you guys feed the trolls..Mavs fans have never seen a winning team in their lives, how would they know what it takes to be a contender? let them cry..let them have their 1 finals appearance that they still complain about..they all have Wade nightmares every night..

you guys need to realize that we're 2nd place in the West despite Parker and Ginobili missing significant time..this is the equivalent of Boston missing Pierce and Allen, Lakers missing Gasol and somebody else, Cavs missing Z and Williams..think about that..

furthermore, Manu is still CLEARLY far away from a 100%..I'd say he's about 75% now..we're also a team that relies on grind-out games, not blow outs..we've always been like that..we always have games vs. worse teams that we fall asleep against, this is nothing new..

some of you just like to be dramatic..remember those Suns teams that used to blow EVERY bad team out every night? what did that get them? blow outs and point differential mean nothing..wins mean everything..

it's only December, stop crying..

[Killakobe81]

no kidding they are better
had they been healthy all season they would have mybe 4 losses

LOL would be better for sure no way to know how much (record wise) ...

[Ghazi]

That's what Ghazi and company are suffering from.

They are only depressing themselves sadly.

I didn't say the Spurs were on the demise. I'm just pointing out that they're on the decline. That's undeniable.

[xellos88330]

I didn't say the Spurs were on the demise. I'm just pointing out that they're on the decline. That's undeniable.

How can you say the Spurs are on a decline? They went deep into the playoffs last year, and won the title before that.

If you say the Spurs are on decline, your Mavs are in freefall. 2 First round exits after a Finals appearance. OUCH!!!

[Ghazi]

Yes, the Mavs are on the decline too. But who said anything about the Mavs?

The Spurs were the best in the league arguably for 5 straight years and were a few plays away from possiby winning 5 straight championships. Now they are around 5th or 6th best in the NBA, just my humble opinion.

[xellos88330]

Another thing, last season after thirty games the Spurs were 21-9. After 30 games this year, 20-10 (And this is with Manu and Parker out for a couple weeks). How is that a decline?

[xellos88330]

Yes, the Mavs are on the decline too. But who said anything about the Mavs?

The Spurs were the best in the league arguably for 5 straight years and were a few plays away from possiby winning 5 straight championships. Now they are around 5th or 6th best in the NBA, just my humble opinion.

Only thing that can really settle this argument is the playoffs. Ill argue more then. :toast

[MarHill]

Another thing, last season after thirty games the Spurs were 21-9. After 30 games this year, 20-10 (And this is with Manu and Parker out for a couple weeks). How is that a decline?


Is amazing how so many people are ready to post that Spurs are in decline?

Here are some stats (since 2003):

60-22 (2002-2003)
57-25 (2003-2004)
59-23 (2004-2005)
63-19 (2005-2006)
58-24 (2006-2007)
56-26 (2007-2008)

That's an average of 58 wins over that time period with three NBA titles and at least reaching the 2nd round of the playoffs in the years they didn't win the title.

Also, with their 20-10 record after 30 games...they are on pace to win about 53 games this year.

Oops....58 wins to 53 wins is a decline!!! Some decline...yikes!!!

I don't get it!!!

:lmao

:flag:

[xellos88330]

Is amazing how so many people are ready to post that Spurs are in decline?

Here are some stats (since 2003):

60-22 (2002-2003)
57-25 (2003-2004)
59-23 (2004-2005)
63-19 (2005-2006)
58-24 (2006-2007)
56-26 (2007-2008)

That's an average of 58 wins over that time period with three NBA titles and at least reaching the 2nd round of the playoffs in the years they didn't win the title.

Also, with their 20-10 record after 30 games...they are on pace to win about 53 games this year.

Oops....58 wins to 53 wins is a decline!!! Some decline...yikes!!!

I don't get it!!!

:lmao

:flag:

I agree 100%. It is worth it when we get to watch them scratch their heads at the end of the season though. It is always such a Kodak moment. :toast

[pawe]

Spurs are not on a decline, they are consistent. they are on pace to win the same amount of games they win each year. Pace in the regular season and let it all out for the playoffs. This happens every season before SPAM.

[ElNono]

Well, I was at the AT&T Center, and to be honest we couldn't get a break until the 2nd overtime. I thought the team lay it all out. That Warrick guy couldn't miss!
Good win tonight. We're now starting to win games even when things don't go our way...

[pawe]

Well, I was at the AT&T Center, and to be honest we couldn't get a break until the 2nd overtime. I thought the team lay it all out. That Warrick guy couldn't miss!
Good win tonight. We're now starting to win games even when things don't go our way...

That's because of defense. Pop kept on stressing that offense will take care of itself and you can win games with impeccable defense even if you suck at scoring.

[spursfan09]

Yes, the Mavs are on the decline too. But who said anything about the Mavs?

The Spurs were the best in the league arguably for 5 straight years and were a few plays away from possiby winning 5 straight championships. Now they are around 5th or 6th best in the NBA, just my humble opinion.

and you have every right to think that about them. but the fact remains you are trying to act like a voice of reasoning here, when really all we spur fans are doing is celebrating a fun win that was entertaining to watch. Ya'll come in acting like you know so much more than us about the spurs. When we've been watching them since the beginning. Theyve been struggling with injuries and getting into rythmn they are no where near what they can become later on in the season. I know right now they are not going to win the championship today.