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robbie380
01-02-2009, 09:16 PM
seriously does this team even fucking care? von wafer's 18 pts in 12 minutes saved this team from scoring less than 60.

SmellyFeet
01-02-2009, 09:18 PM
Anyone else thinks the rockets do not deserve any "suck a$$" threads anymore? they REALLY do suck now.

m33p0
01-02-2009, 09:19 PM
prepare for SD, rocket fans.

Texas_Ranger
01-02-2009, 09:20 PM
28-82 FG...Wow..That sucks! T-Mac once again played like shit.

Roxsfan
01-02-2009, 09:24 PM
I think Tmac has officially given up on the Rockets. The critics would always say that Tmac just didn't get any help in the regular and post-season. That was true--but now he HAS the help and there are two problems:

1. His body/mind is failing him and he can't/won't explode to the rim (physical and mental).

2. He has given up on the Rockets. He does not have the fire/drive/heart to prove critics wrong.

Unless he goes insane in the posteason attacking the iron and hitting his J-shot---he is done in Houston.

Many PackYao
01-02-2009, 09:27 PM
prepare for SD, rocket fans.
It's quite obvious he hauls ass to his computer to make a Rockets loss related thread.It's probably orgasmic for him!:lol

m33p0
01-02-2009, 09:34 PM
It's quite obvious he hauls ass to his computer to make a Rockets loss related thread.It's probably orgasmic for him!:lol
with a box of tissue and a jug of vaseline on hand.

BRHornet45
01-02-2009, 09:50 PM
sons the Rockets are clearly the most overrated team in the West.

jack sommerset
01-02-2009, 09:52 PM
I still think they will make Western conference finals unless they have to play Lakers before then. This team ran off a shitload of wins after x-mas last year.

dirk4mvp
01-02-2009, 09:54 PM
sons the Rockets are clearly the most overrated team in the West.

You should've seen the threads rocketfags were creating in the preseason. Ron Artest was supposed to be their savior.

Ditty
01-02-2009, 09:55 PM
will they even make the playoffs?

BlackSwordsMan
01-02-2009, 09:56 PM
it's ok diekeme mutumbo is just learning the system

Bob Lanier
01-02-2009, 10:18 PM
I think Tmac has officially given up on the Rockets.
You'd better hope an NBA general manager buys that story.

JBIIRockets
01-02-2009, 10:26 PM
2. He has given up on the Rockets. He does not have the fire/drive/heart to prove critics wrong.


I think you nailed it with the 2nd sentence. I mean, what excuse does T-Mac have left?

BlackSwordsMan
01-02-2009, 10:31 PM
I think you nailed it with the 2nd sentence. I mean, what excuse does T-Mac have left?

he just sucks

Hemotivo
01-02-2009, 10:31 PM
:bang

peskypesky
01-02-2009, 10:34 PM
I still think they will make Western conference finals unless they have to play Lakers before then. This team ran off a shitload of wins after x-mas last year.

:lmao

Findog
01-02-2009, 10:42 PM
seriously does this team even fucking care? von wafer's 18 pts in 12 minutes saved this team from scoring less than 60.

Nothing personal against Houston, but this was not a game they were expected to win. Toronto was just beating a team they were supposed to beat, no surprises there.

Rogue
01-02-2009, 10:49 PM
The most correct decision Dawson (former GM of rockets) has ever made was just re-signing Tmac with 20m/yr average contract, it helps other teams. If he hadn't re-sign him, I am not sure how many teams would offer tmac MLEs or even 10m/yr contracts. Tmac isn't worth that of course.

To be honest Tmac is still a good role player and still able to score when there is no defense on him. He deserves much more than a LLE, 2-3m perfect reflects his real value.

Roxsfan
01-03-2009, 02:36 AM
I think you nailed it with the 2nd sentence. I mean, what excuse does T-Mac have left?

Yes, I called it and the chronicle came out with the story that mac officially quit on the rox tonight--Like I didn't know that already.:rolleyes

http://blogs.chron.com/franblinebury/2009/01/sittin_on_the_dock_of_the_bay.html
Anybody who was watching at the Air Canada Centre or on TV knows it was the precise moment that Tracy McGrady quit on the Rockets

Killakobe81
01-03-2009, 02:37 AM
Rox still make me nervous BUT less so the best defenders are battling injuries ... Ron & battier Landry is fierce but undersized ...only tough matchup besides yao is Brooks ...

IronMexican
01-03-2009, 02:44 AM
The JVG curse kicking in.

robbie380
01-03-2009, 09:04 PM
no t-mac tonight and the rockets are playing with some heart tonight. his replacement von wafer looks pretty good tonight as well. and just as I say that he pulls a calf muscle lol.

balli
01-03-2009, 09:09 PM
God ATL is fun to watch.

Indazone
01-03-2009, 10:17 PM
You know what I think the issue is here. The Rockets defense is still pretty good but their offense is horrible. When Adleman said we have to go back to playing the motion offense, this is when we started to suck. Last year Adleman was calling plays from the bench and there was still a lot of T-Mac pick and roll.

Message to Adleman. Forget the motion offense for your first string squad. They will never get it. Understand? Capiche? NEVERRRRRRRRRR!!! Go back to what works during last year's 22 game winning streak you dork!

lefty
01-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Rooooooooooxettes

Pay me my ticket

- Sting

lil_penny
01-03-2009, 10:24 PM
Nothing personal against the rockets but I think the problem is that outside of yao nobody on that team has any business picking up a basketball. Plain and simple all any team needs to do is go out there and play, and make some shots they are suppose to and the win will be there. Again nothing personal against houston but they just have no business picking up a basketball.

Indazone
01-03-2009, 10:31 PM
yeah, you're right but T-Mac is a player who needs the ball in his hands. He needs to dominate the ball. He needs to initiate the offense. Screw this stupid motion offense. Put the ball in T-Mac's hand and stand back.

NuGGeTs-FaN
01-03-2009, 10:55 PM
you should never use the words 'Tmac' and 'back' in one sentence

bdictjames
01-03-2009, 10:55 PM
you should never use the words 'Tmac' and 'back' in one sentence
:lol

Funniest thing I've heard all day.

Ditty
01-03-2009, 11:56 PM
rockets are horrible i thought the mavs were bad

lefty
01-04-2009, 12:03 AM
you should never use the words 'Tmac' and 'back' in one sentence

:lol

Indazone
01-04-2009, 02:27 AM
I don't know if he's being a big baby or he's really hurt. It doesn't really matter. Chronicle is right. If he's sucking as bad as he is, injury or no injury, you assume he's injured and order him to the bench for 3 weeks and make him get therapy. Just grow some balls Adleman and bench T-WACK

Commentary: T-Mac’s status becomes touchy topic



By RICHARD JUSTICE Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle

Jan. 3, 2009, 11:38PM


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James Nielsen Chronicle

Tracy McGrady has had trouble finding a comfort level this season.






Tracy McGrady is holding the Rockets hostage. Is that simple enough?

There’s no easy answer to this problem. You may think there is, but there’s not.
The Rockets already have suggested he take another chunk of time off. He declined, saying he wants to play through the pain in his left knee this time and will take off selected games.
So he’s terrible in a loss at Toronto on Friday and didn’t play Saturday night in Atlanta. Sometimes in, sometimes out.
Tricky problem for club
It’s one thing to be limited by pain. It’s another thing to sulk on the floor. There’s no excuse for McGrady’s behavior Friday.
There’s a delicate balance in dealing with a superstar. I can only imagine what coach Rick Adelman and general manager Daryl Morey would say if they were pumped full of truth serum. Adelman previously asked McGrady to practice only when he could practice hard.
This offense is based on players cutting, moving, passing and getting comfortable with one another. If the No. 1 guy isn’t out there, it’s hard to make things go smoothly.
McGrady sets a tone, too. When he isn’t into it, Ron Artest has moments when he simply gives up on the offense and does whatever he wants.
Bad influence on Artest
If things are clicking, if the ball is moving, he’s unlikely to do this. On nights when McGrady is playing at half-speed, when things are going south, Artest is much more likely to go south, too.
This is the risk of bringing in Artest. He’s an amazingly talented player, but he’s, uh, different.
You probably think McGrady should be ordered off the floor for a while, that he’s helping no one, particularly the Rockets. You’re right about this.
It’s not just that McGrady is playing the worst basketball of his career. He is. He’s shooting 28 percent and averaging 8.2 points over his last five games. His 15 points per game and 39.5 percent shooting for the season are career lows.
Here’s the tough part. The Rockets have enough talent to make the playoffs without him. They’re 5-4 when he doesn’t play and 16-10 when he does.
In previous years, they couldn’t be successful without him. Thanks to Morey, the Rockets have depth: Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry, Luis Scola, etc.
Luther Head plays with more confidence when McGrady isn’t around. In fact, they all do.
I asked a player why the Rockets looked so much more energetic without McGrady.
“You feel wanted,” the player said.
He meant that when McGrady is on the floor, players naturally defer to him. McGrady doesn’t demand this. In fact, he tells players to play their games and let him get his stuff in the flow of the game.
Essential to playoff run
That’s not reality. He’s Tracy McGrady, and they’re not. They’re always going to defer to him.
When he’s out, their natural talents surface. There’s better ball movement and a much smoother look to the offense.
Yet the Rockets must have McGrady playing at a high level to make any noise in the playoffs. That’s the bottom line. At the moment, they can’t win with him. During the playoffs, they can’t win without him.
The Rockets keep hoping that if he continues to play, he’ll eventually gain the strength and comfort he needs to be the real Tracy McGrady.
I don’t know how hard he’s working at rehab. I heard for a while he was working very hard. I’m not so sure now.
Would it be best for the Rockets if he took another stretch of games off? Sure, it would.
That’s what your local high school coach would make a player do. That kind of thing isn’t reality in the NBA.
NBA players have leverage. Players who, like McGrady, make $21 million have all the leverage.
The Rockets can’t order him to do anything. They simply must hope he’ll do the right thing.
The Rockets can’t risk losing McGrady mentally, so they plod along, hoping he’s capable of playing at a high level, trusting him to be honest about how his knee is feeling.
This is another nightmare for a franchise that is run by good, competent people, by people who don’t deserve this.
No other sports franchise in this city is run as well as the Rockets. Leslie Alexander will spend to win. Morey is terrific. Adelman is a pro’s pro.
This season began with justifiably high expectations. The Rockets could never have imagined McGrady would still be slowed by last summer’s knee surgery.
The Rockets have tried everything. He tried to play through the pain. Then he played fewer minutes. Then he rested it. He definitely did work hard for a while.
Here’s to his health
They’ve got a good record, but it’s not nearly what they hoped it would be. They wanted to be mentioned in the same breath with the Lakers and Celtics.
Now they don’t appear to be as good as Orlando, Cleveland and San Antonio.
Even worse have been those damning losses to the Wizards, Clippers, Pacers, etc. Those are games that good teams take care of.
Part of me says this team is in real trouble. Yet it’s only Jan. 4, and there’s plenty of time to get everyone on the same page.
It’s all on McGrady. All the Rockets can do is listen to him, hope he’s telling them the truth, and then pray he’ll be at full speed within a few weeks.
If that happens, there will be time to get rolling for the playoffs. If it doesn’t, well, there’s always the NFL draft. [email protected] ([email protected])

The Franchise
01-04-2009, 12:03 PM
I think Tmac has officially given up on the Rockets. The critics would always say that Tmac just didn't get any help in the regular and post-season. That was true--but now he HAS the help and there are two problems:

1. His body/mind is failing him and he can't/won't explode to the rim (physical and mental).

2. He has given up on the Rockets. He does not have the fire/drive/heart to prove critics wrong.

Unless he goes insane in the posteason attacking the iron and hitting his J-shot---he is done in Houston.
I agree with everything except the part about his body failing him. He is healthy maybe a little to healthy (20 lbs. overweight). his knee has been fine for months he just sat on his lazy ass all summer and did nothing. He just looks like a player who didn't pick up a basketball all summer. When you don't do anything but laze around for seven months and not rehab this is what happens. He has now become a cancer in my book.

Indazone
01-04-2009, 12:23 PM
wish we would have given Franchise a shot. He can't be any worse than T-Mac right now.