Marcus Camby?

[Ditty]

I see this guy is the missing piece but he makes to much money :bang

he can defintly rebound i think he had like 23 rebounds a week ago and he can block about 3 shots a game, and could put up about 10 points. I think he would be such a presence when we play against the hornets he could match up really with chandler in which we could put duncan on west, anyone else agree?

[dougp]

Maybe if he'd take 1/4 of his salary ... or even an 1/8.

[DynastyBuilder]

I've thought for years Camby matched up with Duncan would be a very formidable duo inside.

[Ditty]

we should of gone after him beside RASHO

[m33p0]

I've thought for years Camby matched up with Duncan would be a very formidable duo inside.
no doubt but he's expensive.

[T Park]

we should of gone after him beside RASHO


Had that been prudent or even realistic.......

[Rogue]

he is gonna be a great patch to our team but we don't have a similar garbage contract to trade for him.

How about Vaughn and KT for him? I prefer KT personally.

[Ditty]

Had that been prudent or even realistic.......

didnt we have enough salary cap room that we could of signed jason kidd or jermain oneal that summer to a max contract cuz d-rob retired

udoku,thomas,and vaughn and maybe 2 draft picks or how bout the rites to splinter ha

[ivanfromwestwood]

why does everyone think we can trade our garbage for a big time player??

[Ditty]

why does everyone think we can trade our garbage for a big time player??

if the lakers did

anythings possible

[m33p0]

why does everyone think we can trade our garbage for a big time player??
coz it's possible. see pau gasol to the lakers for a half pack of peanuts.

[Ditty]

And it is the Clippers, they will pretty much make any deal to get in the headlines.

maybe they want boozer :sombrero:

[Slinkyman]

Camby isn't THAT expensive (8 mil and 7.6 mil next year), at least not for a guy who grabs 23 boards once a week.

[Austin_Toros]

i dont know if getting camby is realistic- not now, anyway

we will probably end up signing him in another 5 or so years time.

if we cant land him NOW i don't want the camby man on our roster

although the number of games that he's pulled down more than 20 rebounds amazes me

[Ditty]

Camby isn't THAT expensive (8 mil and 7.6 mil next year), at least not for a guy who grabs 23 boards once a week.

agree we would probably give up close to that giving up 3 players and maybe a draft pick in a weak draft class

[DynastyBuilder]

I don't think Camby would be coming to SA anytime soon. I just have thought for quite a while that if he was paired with Timmy that they would be an awesome force.

[intlspurshk]

if the lakers did

anythings possible

LA is big market. SA is a shitty small market. I don't believe the trade for Gasol has no under the table element

[Rogue]

LA is big market. SA is a shitty small market. I don't believe the trade for Gasol has no under the table element
I doute it. SA is not as big as LA in size but LA is definitely more shitty than SA. Hollywood has been keeping making shit, unthinkable unremarkable shit. LA is the shittiest city throughout the nation, from border to border, from coast to coast.

[Fattmac78]

Im sorry but Camby dont even like the Spurs. He has always been bitter because the Spurs always put the nuggets outta the playoff. I know the Clipps suck but for some reason I truely dont think he's one of thoso "if I cant beat'em, join'em type people"

[galvatron3000]

Im sorry but Camby dont even like the Spurs. He has always been bitter because the Spurs always put the nuggets outta the playoff. I know the Clipps suck but for some reason I truely dont think he's one of thoso "if I cant beat'em, join'em type people"


He has to be because the team he's playing for now can't beat anyone and I know he wants to play for a winner before he retires.

[Chieflion]

Im sorry but Camby dont even like the Spurs. He has always been bitter because the Spurs always put the nuggets outta the playoff. I know the Clipps suck but for some reason I truely dont think he's one of thoso "if I cant beat'em, join'em type people"

Not only the Nuggets, he was with the Knicks 1999 squad where the Spurs dominated the Knicks that whole series.

[T Park]

I gaurantee you if Marcus Camby was told today "We have a trade set to send you to San Antonio, do you want it done" That sentence couldn't be finished without him saying yes.

Marcus Camby is a good guy and a good player, and he wants to win. He would gauranteed welcome a trade.

[Juanobili]

I would loooove Camby on the Spurs

[mrspurs]

Ive never been a Camby fan. But when you look at the rest of the top West teams. Then look at our roster. Camby would be real nice to have standing next to TD. It would easily make us real contenders again. And if its true he only makes about 8 million, then we should have enough to make a trade for him. I just wonder sometimes if the FO is really trying to win it all this season, or just trying to fill seats. Guess we will find out soon enough. If the FO doesnt do anything to help TD, then I know what they're doing.

[exstatic]

There's a reason his nickname is Cotton Camby. Over the course of his career, he's averaged 57.9 games played per season. A nice complement to Tim is only nice if he's actually on the floor.

[Chieflion]

There's a reason his nickname is Cotton Camby. Over the course of his career, he's averaged 57.9 games played per season. A nice complement to Tim is only nice if he's actually on the floor.

Does that stat include the 1999 season? Over the last 5 seasons, Camby played an average of 68.6 games. Get him if we can. Since he is an expiring and the Clippers' biggest need is bench players. This is not a video game where you can own with 3 big men and Baron Davis.

[DynastyBuilder]

Does that stat include the 1999 season? Over the last 5 seasons, Camby played an average of 68.6 games.

+1

It not only includes 1999 it also includes his games this season. However in 01-02 and 02-03 he put up back-to-back 29 game performances...

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

I see this guy is the missing piece but he makes to much money :bang

he can defintly rebound i think he had like 23 rebounds a week ago and he can block about 3 shots a game, and could put up about 10 points. I think he would be such a presence when we play against the hornets he could match up really with chandler in which we could put duncan on west, anyone else agree?

Absolutely. Without a doubt. But I'm not sure what it would take to get him. For one, I don't know if the Spurs have cap space, or if moves would have to be made to create flexibility. And of course... who would you have to give up to get him?

I would guess that we'd have to part with Hill, Thomas, maybe another young player, and a draft pick. Is it worth it? Certainly in the short-term it would be.

[Kent_in_Atlanta]

There's a reason his nickname is Cotton Camby. Over the course of his career, he's averaged 57.9 games played per season. A nice complement to Tim is only nice if he's actually on the floor.

As long as he gets here in time to acclimate to the Spurs system, and is healthy in the playoffs... I don't give a damn how many regular season games he plays.

[Ditty]

Absolutely. Without a doubt. But I'm not sure what it would take to get him. For one, I don't know if the Spurs have cap space, or if moves would have to be made to create flexibility. And of course... who would you have to give up to get him?

I would guess that we'd have to part with Hill, Thomas, maybe another young player, and a draft pick. Is it worth it? Certainly in the short-term it would be.

not hill give them splinters rights :D

and get rid of the end of the bench guys like udoku,and vaughn

clippers know there not going to make the playoffs so they get ride of cambys big contract and they get splinter where theylll buy his rights from that brazil team

Marcus Camby:2008/09: $11.25 million, 2009/10: $10.9 million, 2010/11: Free Agent

[Ditty]

Marcus Camby finished Wednesday's loss with 16 points, 17 rebounds, six assists, a steal and two blocks as the Clippers fell to the Sixers at home

Marcus Camby finished Tuesday's loss to the Kings with 15 points, 24 rebounds, four assists and three blocks

Marcus Camby had 16 points, 12 rebounds and five blocks in Sunday's loss to the Mavericks

[mrspurs]

Lets take this to the next level. Trade Manu for Camby on your video games and let me know what happens in the West. hahahahaha

[SenorSpur]

I gaurantee you if Marcus Camby was told today "We have a trade set to send you to San Antonio, do you want it done" That sentence couldn't be finished without him saying yes.

Marcus Camby is a good guy and a good player, and he wants to win. He would gauranteed welcome a trade.

Agreed.

If Camby was traded to San Antonio, he couldn't get here fast enough to suit him.

[Manufan909]

Anyone outside of Timy, Tony, Manu, Hill, Mason, Bowen, Ian, and Splitter are untouchable in getting this guy. Sorry Bonner, but Camby would be huge for this Spurs team, even more so than Bonners spacing. I think some combo of Matt, Fin, KT, Fab, and Ime could possibly get him. Not like Pop will try cuz there's only like a 5% chance of a deal happening, but it'd be nice. Not only is he a top 5(he'd be 5) C, but he could be the man ST always wanted whenever Tim is out, so that's at least 13 minutes guaranteed at the PF position, throw in 13 at C and the Spurs would be the favorite for at least a few years. And another mentor for Ian would be nice.

[HarlemHeat37]

I dislike Camby's game a lot, and I believe he's one of the most overrated defenders ever..he also has a big ego..but I would definitely welcome him on this team, except for the contract..

the problem is obviously the fact that we wouldn't be able to get him for any of our players..

[Manufan909]

I dislike Camby's game a lot, and I believe he's one of the most overrated defenders ever..he also has a big ego..but I would definitely welcome him on this team, except for the contract..

the problem is obviously the fact that we wouldn't be able to get him for any of our players..

What don't you like about his game?

[galvatron3000]

I dislike Camby's game a lot, and I believe he's one of the most overrated defenders ever..he also has a big ego..but I would definitely welcome him on this team, except for the contract..

the problem is obviously the fact that we wouldn't be able to get him for any of our players..


I don't know about any of that but he should fit the Spurs system greatly

[Ditty]

Anyone outside of Timy, Tony, Manu, Hill, Mason, Bowen, Ian, and Splitter are untouchable in getting this guy. Sorry Bonner, but Camby would be huge for this Spurs team, even more so than Bonners spacing. I think some combo of Matt, Fin, KT, Fab, and Ime could possibly get him. Not like Pop will try cuz there's only like a 5% chance of a deal happening, but it'd be nice. Not only is he a top 5(he'd be 5) C, but he could be the man ST always wanted whenever Tim is out, so that's at least 13 minutes guaranteed at the PF position, throw in 13 at C and the Spurs would be the favorite for at least a few years. And another mentor for Ian would be nice.

i think they would part with splinter he going to be in brazil until he's 27 by the time he starts getting good he'll be around 30

again i would trade thomas,udoku,and vaugh thr rights to splinter and a second round draft pick they gave away to denver

so i think its even then we can sign marcus williams to replace udoku and either aheam or farmer to replace vaughn :flag:

[Spur-Addict]

What don't you like about his game?

I know, right? :lol

That man is everything we need.

[NFGIII]

Camby would be an excellent addition to the Spurs provided that he do the following:

1) D & Rebound first - his O isn't his primarily function on the Spurs. His value to us is on this end. Ego or not he would have to park it and buy into this role to really help the Spurs. I agree with those who think he would. He would be looking at a very real chance to win it all if he comes here. Outside of '99 in NY he hasn't been close.

2) Never take a shot beyond 15 ft - everytime I watch him shoot beyond that point he invariably misses a high % - he would be much more effective closer to the rim. He has a tendency to fall in love with those shots and that would really hurt our offensive flow.

3) Concentrate on getting garbage points - running a play or two for him is OK in order to keep the opponent's D honest.

The point is what would the Clippers want from us? NO big 3 or Hill and Mason. Outside of them I think anyone is available. Though I love Bowen's game to be able to get an interior player of Camby's caliber it may be neccesssary to include him if the Clippers want it. I personnally don't think they would be it might happen.

:flag:

[HarlemHeat37]

Camby's flaws are well-documented..

he's an average man defender due to his small size and weak frame..

he's a BAD pick and roll defender..this is known throughout the L..Spurs fans saw it first hand with the Roger Mason GW vs. the Clippers this year..Camby refuses to defend the pick and roll, and he's been like that his entire career..

Camby is also known for stealing rebounds from his teammates to inflate his stats..Ralph Lawler even commented last game at one point, saying "Camby's getting every rebound, even from his own teammates"..this was after he took the rebound from one of his guard teammates..this was also well-publicized in Denver, as any Nuggets fan would probably tell you..

Camby's ego is also a factor offensively..he's known to want to dribble the ball up a few times a game, he throws up garbage ill-advised jumpers a few times a game..he needs shots..

part of the reason the Nuggets look better this year is because of the emergency of Nene..he's a much better individual defender, and a much better pick and roll defender..he also fits much better with the offense and gets inside a lot more..

Camby is what he is..he's a GREAT help defender, he's a great rebounder..he's also a great passer..all these aspects would fit well with our team, I never disagreed with that..the problem is that I wouldn't give up any of the big 3, Hill or Mason for him..so what else would the Clippers want?..

the Spurs don't need a flashy defender, we need a hard-nosed guy next to Tim..we need a guy like a Joel Pryzbilla or a Kendrick Perkins..we won't be getting neither of those guys, but somebody like that would be ideal..

[Sissiborgo]

He's a great player!

[Ditty]

why wouldnt he fit in our system hes everything we want

[rascal]

Absolutely. Without a doubt. But I'm not sure what it would take to get him. For one, I don't know if the Spurs have cap space, or if moves would have to be made to create flexibility. And of course... who would you have to give up to get him?

I would guess that we'd have to part with Hill, Thomas, maybe another young player, and a draft pick. Is it worth it? Certainly in the short-term it would be.

Manu would get Camby. The Clippers need a good 2 guard. Thats a trade that helps both teams.

Move Hill to starting sg and get his confidence up by giving him playing time. Hill has the potential to be a future star but he needs to develope his game by playing.

[AFBlue]

Manu would get Camby. The Clippers need a good 2 guard. Thats a trade that helps both teams.

Move Hill to starting sg and get his confidence up by giving him playing time. Hill has the potential to be a future star but he needs to develope his game by playing.

Trade Manu?!?!

Wow, let's get some perspective...

The Spurs, despite being without two all-stars for a month of their season so far, have a good enough record to be well inside the top 8 and will more than likely make the playoffs. They've added depth to their lineup and it seems each returning player is playing at or above their level last year.

That sets the Spurs up nicely to be contenders this year, despite what the media says about us being virtually assured a Lakers/Celtics rematch. There is absolutely NO reason to trade an all-star cailbur player to gain some rebounds and blocked shots alongside Tim Duncan.

And as for Camby coming here at all....not gonna happen. He makes too much money and the Spurs have shit for trade assets.

[xtremesteven33]

Manu would get Camby. The Clippers need a good 2 guard. Thats a trade that helps both teams.

Move Hill to starting sg and get his confidence up by giving him playing time. Hill has the potential to be a future star but he needs to develope his game by playing.

:rolleyes

[TDMVPDPOY]

i dunno man, this guy puts up monster stats against scrubs, but when against a guy like tim duncan? he should hand back that dpoy cause his not one.

[HarlemHeat37]

Manu for Camby? LOL..

[NFGIII]

Manu for Camby? LOL..

Agreed. If that were to ever happen you can find me down at the Spurs HQ with a loaded gun looking for the one who OK'd this. That's figuratively.

Anyway the Spurs would never do that IMHO.

[Ditty]

no manu for camby

if denver gave away a second round pick just for camby

what makes u think la wont do the same dumb mistake also espically for us to beat there in town rivals the lakers which more fans cheer for the lakers at there home games then the clippers lmao

[DynastyBuilder]

gtfo with these thoughts of trading Manu for Camby.

[ClingingMars]

Love him, but there's just not a situation I can think of that would get it done.

-Mars

[Ditty]

Marcus Camby !!!!!!!

[Leftyventricle]

Marcus Camby erases Austin Croshere's layup.

s4o-ZVOoO3A

[nkdlunch]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1996~167~2805~866~125&teams=12~12~12~12~24&te=&cash=

[galvatron3000]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1996~167~2805~866~125&teams=12~12~12~12~24&te=&cash=

how much roster space do the Clippers have?

not going to happen, try Jordan and a pg

[WayOutWest]

In all honesty, when healthy the Clippers don't NEED anything. They have Davis at the PG, a young stud rookie Gordon at SG, another young stud at SF in Thorton and a PF/C combo of Camby/Kaman/Randolf. On paper the Clippers look pretty good. Even their bench looks pretty good with Kaman/Camby, R. Davis, Jordan and Jones. If it wasn't for injuries and a stupid coach the Clippers would actually be fun to watch.

That being said, whenever things start to look good the owner usually decides to screw it up by pulling money off the table. IMO the Randolf trade made the Camby move irrelivant. After losing Brand the Clippers scrambled to safe face and landed Camby. My season ticket rep tried soooooooooooooo hard to spin the Brand fiasco by saying Camby made up of the difference. One of those three is going to be the odd man out, and it's highly doubtful that it will be Randolf since he's being seen as the Clippers "savior", that's going to help Baron bring the Clippers back to the playoffs.

That leaves Camby and Kaman. Kaman is signed through to 2012 I believe at about 9 to 12 million per year AND his contract includes a trade "kicker" that gives him a bonus if he gets traded which would make it hard for the Spurs to pay, over 7 million. Kaman is younger and I think the Clippers would prefer to keep him so IMO Camby is the guy the Clippers would like to move once they get healthy. Plus now that Jordan is showing some game the Clippers probably don't even want Camby as a backup. IMO Camby is very "gettable" but it would have to be for expiring contracts. Sterling would love nothing better than to get cheap AGAIN. He's got enough young guys with rookie contracts that can keep fans in the seats and since he has not true desire to win that the Clippers are 100% looking to dump salary and Camby's the most attractive. In other words, the Clippers are in almost the exact same scenario as the Grizzlies were last year and look what they were willing to do to dump salary. IMO is this is something that would help the Spurs they should give it a serious shot.

[ClingingMars]

camby = championship. no question.

-Mars

[rascal]

Spurs should try to get Camby. Even with Camby it would still not be easy beating the lakers but they would at least have a fighting chance with another good frontcourt player.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Even though I've never cared for Camby and his propensity for getting hurt, he'd be good for the Spurs. Just like every other trade scenario, though, I don't know who the Spurs have that the Clips would want. You include Parker or Manu in a trade for Camby and the chances of the Spurs getting another title go from 10% this year to zero.

We're a lottery team without those either of those two.

[Galileo]

I remember when Camby went up against Duncan in college.

[Manufan909]

I remember when Camby went up against Duncan in college.

Who won back then?

And I want Camby too, but it seems damn impossible to get him. I wonder what Pop's list of bigs are that he is trying to work for. Or maybe Ian is good and he's going to April fools the league in February by trading for a solid, semi-athletic big, and simultaneously starting to play Ian.

[Galileo]

Who won back then?

And I want Camby too, but it seems damn impossible to get him. I wonder what Pop's list of bigs are that he is trying to work for. Or maybe Ian is good and he's going to April fools the league in February by trading for a solid, semi-athletic big, and simultaneously starting to play Ian.

I can't remember, I heard the game on the radio. It might have been in the NCAA tourney. I do remember it was billed as a battle between the top two big men in college. Camby was with # 1 ranked UConn.

Maybe someone can look up the date and results?

[Manufan909]

I can't remember, I heard the game on the radio. It might have been in the NCAA tourney. I do remember it was billed as a battle between the top two big men in college. Camby was with # 1 ranked UConn.

Maybe someone can look up the date and results?

Duncan228's archives FTW!!!

[duncan228]

Camby was UMass, not UConn, wasn't he? And, I'm seeing what I have. :)

[Galileo]

Camby was UMass, not UConn, wasn't he? And, I'm seeing what I have. :)

The game could have been around Halloween, maybe a pre-season tourney game. All I know is a remember hearing Duncan and Camby go at it in college.

We are waiting for your research.

:-)

[PDXSpursFan]

A healthy Camby = another ring

Unfortunately, is not going to happen. Outside of the big 3 we have nothing to offer the Clippers

[DPG21920]

The game could have been around Halloween, maybe a pre-season tourney game. All I know is a remember hearing Duncan and Camby go at it in college.

We are waiting for your research.

:-)

Here you go:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06E4DF143AF937A25755C0A96F9582 60&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/C/Camby,%20Marcus

The first time they met, it was billed as the next big matchup, on a level with the battles between Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. Now, when Marcus Camby sees Tim Duncan across the floor on Wednesday in the National Basketball Association finals, he sets it up as a matchup more like David versus Goliath.

''He's the best player in the league,'' Camby said of Duncan. ''I'm just trying to get up to where he's at. I'm just taking the same approach as our team has been taking, as the underdog. They're supposed to be the best team with the best record, and he's supposed to be the best player. But we still have to play the game and we're going to show up on Wednesday.''

With the uncertain status of Larry Johnson, Camby is still not sure just what his role will be. Will he start or remain on the second unit? Will it be Duncan or David Robinson that he must try to contain? Coach Jeff Van Gundy may not be so sure of those answers yet, either, so for now, Camby is like an eager student, politely but excitedly raising his hand and hoping that the teacher will call his name.

Camby has been tied to Duncan since they met on Dec. 6, 1995, when both were juniors in college. Camby got the better of Duncan that day, with his University of Massachusetts team beating Duncan's Wake Forest squad, 60-46, behind Camby's 17 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. Duncan had just 9 points that day on 4-of-18 shooting, grabbing 12 rebounds and blocking 4 shots.

''That was four years ago; it seems like an eternity now,'' Camby said. ''I don't remember that much about the game. I know that we won. There was a lot of hoopla being built up. They were trying to make it a Chamberlain-Russell, Olajuwon-Ewing, stuff like that. They were really hyping the game up.

''But that was a long time ago. We were both young, young pups. It was different, with double- and triple-teaming, and zones. All I remember is the hype. It seems like in college it was a bigger level. They made a big thing of it. We were both high-profile. I was more of a scorer then, getting plays run for me. Right now, it's definitely different roles.''

It has also been different paths for the two, almost from that day. Camby finished that season, winning national honors as player of the year and leading UMass to the Final Four. He joined the N.B.A. after that season, leaving a scandal behind him. Duncan stayed in school, was the No. 1 pick in the 1997 draft and quickly ascended to the top of the sport. Camby, drafted by Toronto as the second overall pick, underachieved for the Raptors, and after being dealt to the Knicks during last year's draft, did little of notice before the playoffs.

Duncan has the Knicks' attention.

''Not only is he the best player in the N.B.A.,'' Van Gundy said, ''but fundamentally, he is so sound in the way he plays the game. It's not a flashy, highlight reel. It's a coaching clinic. He has a fundamentally sound approach to the game. It's not an athletic game. To me, from a coach's standpoint, that's the beauty.''

Duncan and Camby have met twice in the N.B.A., both last season when Camby was still with the Raptors. The Spurs won both games, with Duncan (15 and 24 points, 8 and 11 rebounds) decisively outplaying Camby (8 points and 5 rebounds each game).

''He makes everything look effortless,'' Camby said. ''He gets his points, but he also rebounds the ball extremely well. He's a presence on the defensive end. Definitely from four years ago when I played him to now, he's a totally different player, definitely a better player.''

But if Duncan is the best player in the game, Camby accelerated his growth in the Indiana series, becoming one of the dominant players on the floor after Patrick Ewing went down with a torn Achilles' tendon.

For Camby, the recent success brings back memories of college and the Final Four. While he cherishes the ride he is on, he realizes that his own part in it is far different from his days in college.

''I think it's more of knowing my role on this team,'' he said. ''College was different. I was the go-to guy, the guy getting the majority of shots, getting a lot of attention. Now on this ball club I've learned to accept my role. I'm feeling good and healthy, and my teammates are looking for me. That's key. You always want to feel wanted on a ball club and you always want to be a part of something special. Right now, that's how I feel.''

[duncan228]

Here you go:

Nice find, thanks. :toast

[Galileo]

Here you go:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D06E4DF143AF937A25755C0A96F9582 60&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/C/Camby,%20Marcus

The first time they met, it was billed as the next big matchup, on a level with the battles between Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. Now, when Marcus Camby sees Tim Duncan across the floor on Wednesday in the National Basketball Association finals, he sets it up as a matchup more like David versus Goliath.

''He's the best player in the league,'' Camby said of Duncan. ''I'm just trying to get up to where he's at. I'm just taking the same approach as our team has been taking, as the underdog. They're supposed to be the best team with the best record, and he's supposed to be the best player. But we still have to play the game and we're going to show up on Wednesday.''

With the uncertain status of Larry Johnson, Camby is still not sure just what his role will be. Will he start or remain on the second unit? Will it be Duncan or David Robinson that he must try to contain? Coach Jeff Van Gundy may not be so sure of those answers yet, either, so for now, Camby is like an eager student, politely but excitedly raising his hand and hoping that the teacher will call his name.

Camby has been tied to Duncan since they met on Dec. 6, 1995, when both were juniors in college. Camby got the better of Duncan that day, with his University of Massachusetts team beating Duncan's Wake Forest squad, 60-46, behind Camby's 17 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. Duncan had just 9 points that day on 4-of-18 shooting, grabbing 12 rebounds and blocking 4 shots.

''That was four years ago; it seems like an eternity now,'' Camby said. ''I don't remember that much about the game. I know that we won. There was a lot of hoopla being built up. They were trying to make it a Chamberlain-Russell, Olajuwon-Ewing, stuff like that. They were really hyping the game up.

''But that was a long time ago. We were both young, young pups. It was different, with double- and triple-teaming, and zones. All I remember is the hype. It seems like in college it was a bigger level. They made a big thing of it. We were both high-profile. I was more of a scorer then, getting plays run for me. Right now, it's definitely different roles.''

It has also been different paths for the two, almost from that day. Camby finished that season, winning national honors as player of the year and leading UMass to the Final Four. He joined the N.B.A. after that season, leaving a scandal behind him. Duncan stayed in school, was the No. 1 pick in the 1997 draft and quickly ascended to the top of the sport. Camby, drafted by Toronto as the second overall pick, underachieved for the Raptors, and after being dealt to the Knicks during last year's draft, did little of notice before the playoffs.

Duncan has the Knicks' attention.

''Not only is he the best player in the N.B.A.,'' Van Gundy said, ''but fundamentally, he is so sound in the way he plays the game. It's not a flashy, highlight reel. It's a coaching clinic. He has a fundamentally sound approach to the game. It's not an athletic game. To me, from a coach's standpoint, that's the beauty.''

Duncan and Camby have met twice in the N.B.A., both last season when Camby was still with the Raptors. The Spurs won both games, with Duncan (15 and 24 points, 8 and 11 rebounds) decisively outplaying Camby (8 points and 5 rebounds each game).

''He makes everything look effortless,'' Camby said. ''He gets his points, but he also rebounds the ball extremely well. He's a presence on the defensive end. Definitely from four years ago when I played him to now, he's a totally different player, definitely a better player.''

But if Duncan is the best player in the game, Camby accelerated his growth in the Indiana series, becoming one of the dominant players on the floor after Patrick Ewing went down with a torn Achilles' tendon.

For Camby, the recent success brings back memories of college and the Final Four. While he cherishes the ride he is on, he realizes that his own part in it is far different from his days in college.

''I think it's more of knowing my role on this team,'' he said. ''College was different. I was the go-to guy, the guy getting the majority of shots, getting a lot of attention. Now on this ball club I've learned to accept my role. I'm feeling good and healthy, and my teammates are looking for me. That's key. You always want to feel wanted on a ball club and you always want to be a part of something special. Right now, that's how I feel.''

great work!

[Horse]

It would be like the old frontline with Tim and David, Although camby is not the offensive player David was. If possible I'd love it, I mean how would anyone score with those two in the paint, Then have Bowen, Ginobli, and Parker on the perimiter, We'd probly win it all.

[InK]

If possible I'd love it, I mean how would anyone score with those two in the paint, Then have Bowen, Ginobli, and Parker on the perimiter, We'd probly win it all.

Thats the problem, it aint possible. Its a pipedream that is brought up after each bad loss to make Spursfans feel a bit better, that be it.

[sonic21]

Camby isn't a very good 1 on 1 defender, i still don't understand why he won DPOY

[Creation88]

trade all of our picks and pay the tax Holt. we need to win now!

[Ditty]

if clippers had to get rid of just a 2nd round pick maybe they would give rid of camby for ime,oberto and vaughn and maybe a second round draft pick with maybe tiago splitter in there also it free's up salary cap space for the clippers cuz there is no way there going to the playoffs this year and they could go after boozer this summer all the spurs need to do is to get there cheap owner to pull his check book out cheapo if he really wants to win another championship he's got to get camby he's everything we need

[DynastyBuilder]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=267976&src=150



Marcus Camby returned from a sprained ankle to face the Bulls, while Zach Randolph (knee) and Chris Kaman (arch) still are sidelined.

Healthy or not, Clippers coach and general manager Mike Dunleavy said he won't consider dealing any of them before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.

"No plans at all," Dunleavy said before the game. "We want to see how they play together. We think they can be one of the best front lines in basketball. I think they can work well together; I just haven't seen it happen yet."

[waly.mg]

no doubt but he's expensive.

May be, may be

But, with Camby in the Spurs we can win a Championship. With him we are better than the Lakers, or the Celtics.

With our Team right now, we are contenders, but in the Playoff picture, the Lakers and the Celtics are better, that don´t mean we can´t beat them, but for example right now, in a Lakers matchup, probably the Posibilities are 60/40 for the Lakers, with Camby we are 50/50

[Agloco]

i dont know if getting camby is realistic- not now, anyway

we will probably end up signing him in another 5 or so years time.

if we cant land him NOW i don't want the camby man on our roster

although the number of games that he's pulled down more than 20 rebounds amazes me

That would make Mr. Camby = Mr. Grampy.

At the ripe old age of 39, I'm thinking even the Spurs pass on him.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

SPURSOWNTEXAS.










Check.

[cool hand]

Camby's salary is less than 10ml make it it happen POP......or the spurs will always be suckers to the league.

[Ditty]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113488

[Ditty]

SPURSOWNTEXAS.










Check.

what does that mean

[Bartleby]

Another Camby thread is what we need.

[DynastyBuilder]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=267976&src=150


Marcus Camby returned from a sprained ankle to face the Bulls, while Zach Randolph (knee) and Chris Kaman (arch) still are sidelined.

Healthy or not, Clippers coach and general manager Mike Dunleavy said he won't consider dealing any of them before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.

"No plans at all," Dunleavy said before the game. "We want to see how they play together. We think they can be one of the best front lines in basketball. I think they can work well together; I just haven't seen it happen yet."http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3064312&postcount=78

[superbigtime]

I doute it. SA is not as big as LA in size but LA is definitely more shitty than SA. Hollywood has been keeping making shit, unthinkable unremarkable shit. LA is the shittiest city throughout the nation, from border to border, from coast to coast.

You doute it?

[CubanSucks]

Another Camby thread is what we need.

It's not just Camby, but all these wishful thinking threads just fucking piss me off. "Hey we need Camby, hey we need another good point guard, hey we need a dominant center". Just shut the fuck up. I especially hate the threads that have a players name with ? next to it only because they're fucking morons with wishful thinking. They keep getting more and more far fetched; I swear at some point along the line there is gonna be a "Lebron?" or a "Dwight Howard?" thread.

[superbigtime]

Chill, Winston. What's wrong with speculating about possible trades that may help our team win it all? Look at what the Lakers pulled off last year. None of the names batted around are beyond possibility. As long as the big three are intact, the addition of a quality Center obviously takes our team from contender to favorite. Our guard play hasn't been this strong since Kerr and Jax were in town. The team's window is obviously closing. The addition of Camby would clearly take this team to another level, and if it takes losing some of the lesser players on the team to get that done and maybe a painful departure from a favorite like Fab then pull the trigger! And it doesn't have to be a Camby or David Lee either. I think there are a few other players out there who could make a big impact.

Fans are going to speculate, hypothesize, and fantasize about acquiring a significant trade until that possibility no longer exists. The buzz will be over the day after the trade deadline.

[Ditty]

maybe RC gets on this site and he sees this thread and he immediatly gets on the phone with the clippers ha

[Chieflion]

maybe RC gets on this site and he sees this thread and he immediatly gets on the phone with the clippers ha

The Clippers.....
Camby + Thornton for our unwanted trash.

On another note, Spurs could try to send a wing to Philly for Reggie Evans.

[Deimosfobos]

I would love Camby on our team, but I really dout it will ever happen given the recent history of our trades.

I mean, just thinking of Scola I feal like crying...

[Illusionarist]

Hey Bowen makes 4 million a year. Why not add him in the grarbage pack to try to match the salaries? Certainly Camby would help a lot more that Bruce.

[xtremesteven33]

No doubt Camvy would make us better if he submits to a defensive rebounding role....Everytime i watch Camby play now he seems to always want to get his shots off. And not like post up moves he wants to shoot like 10-15 footers...hahaha

[NFGIII]

It's not just Camby, but all these wishful thinking threads just fucking piss me off. "Hey we need Camby, hey we need another good point guard, hey we need a dominant center". Just shut the fuck up. I especially hate the threads that have a players name with ? next to it only because they're fucking morons with wishful thinking. They keep getting more and more far fetched; I swear at some point along the line there is gonna be a "Lebron?" or a "Dwight Howard?" thread.

I agree with your feelings on this. Though I don't have a problem with speculating about the possibilities of getting cetain players I at least would like to see a realistic proposal. Many a time the salaries don't match and what we want to dump on the other team is pure garbage so the trade would obviously fail. And let's not even mention proposals for certain players that are untouchable. See ^


Chill, Winston. What's wrong with speculating about possible trades that may help our team win it all? Look at what the Lakers pulled off last year. None of the names batted around are beyond possibility. As long as the big three are intact, the addition of a quality Center obviously takes our team from contender to favorite. Our guard play hasn't been this strong since Kerr and Jax were in town. The team's window is obviously closing. The addition of Camby would clearly take this team to another level, and if it takes losing some of the lesser players on the team to get that done and maybe a painful departure from a favorite like Fab then pull the trigger! And it doesn't have to be a Camby or David Lee either. I think there are a few other players out there who could make a big impact.

Fans are going to speculate, hypothesize, and fantasize about acquiring a significant trade until that possibility no longer exists. The buzz will be over the day after the trade deadline.

Would love to get Camby even at the risk of hurting the 2010 plan because if getting him leads to a ring then it would be worth it. As TD goes so goes the Spurs and his window is closing thus making a trade that puts the Spurs in a position to win it all something that needs to happen. Problem is what do we have to offer other teams that they would except but that's another thread.


No doubt Camby would make us better if he submits to a defensive rebounding role....Everytime i watch Camby play now he seems to always want to get his shots off. And not like post up moves he wants to shoot like 10-15 footers...hahaha


The key word here. IF he submits to that supportive defensive role with a J thrown in here and there to keep the opposing D honest this would work IMHO. His O is not very good and his J from beyond 15 ft is hard to watch but he would be great down low for 2nd chance points.

If the Spurs ever got another defensive rebounder on this team consistently avertaging 8 - 12 boards I would be in heaven. But then again what other NBA team wouldn't. They don't grow on trees and are hard to come by.

[hater]

It's not just Camby, but all these wishful thinking threads just fucking piss me off. "Hey we need Camby, hey we need another good point guard, hey we need a dominant center". Just shut the fuck up. I especially hate the threads that have a players name with ? next to it only because they're fucking morons with wishful thinking. They keep getting more and more far fetched; I swear at some point along the line there is gonna be a "Lebron?" or a "Dwight Howard?" thread.

nothing wrong with speculation threads. next time skip them if they piss u off :rolleyes

[DAF86]

Rasheed would be a better fit

[NFGIII]

Rasheed would be a better fit

If only.................!

We're dreaming

[DAF86]

If only.................!

We're dreaming

Next year, NFGIII, next year!