I would trade Ginobili for OJ Mayo right now

[SequSpur]

and Bonner and Udoka.

[Tully365]

I would trade you for anyone from spurs report.

[weebo]

are you stupid or something!?1

[Solid D]

I would trade Ginobili for OJ Mayo right now...and Bonner and Udoka.

Sometimes, going public with your thoughts can be embarrassing over the course of time.

[ClingingMars]

I would trade you for anyone from spurs report.

[pawe]

Stop masturbating so much, it affects your brain.

[Solid D]

There is no doubt that OJ Mayo is the outstanding rookie so far and he is a double-threat scorer. It remains to be seen how good of a defender, passer and leader he can be. He's not doing much to put paying customers in the seats in Memphis, yet. Manu is an international star. Time will tell.

[HarlemHeat37]

why would Memphis want an injury-prone SG in his 30's, over a rookie SG that has the potential to be a superstar?..

[IronMexican]

I'd take Mayo over a lot of SG's. And any team would be crazy or have an Argentine GM not to do that trade.

[SpursPreacher]

http://www.tomsfreakinsweetwebpage.com/images/Mo4.jpg

[underdawg]

and Bonner and Udoka.

what would you trade Tom Cruise for his shoe lifts?

[peskypesky]

But would you trade Udoka for Joe Johnson?

[jag]

Sequ might be half retarded...but i don't see how this is that crazy of a notion.

I wouldn't ever trade one of the big three...but if this trade were proposed to the Spurs, they'd be crazy not to do it.

[mexicanjunior]

Grizzlies would never make that trade...

[dirk4mvp]

Grizzlies would never make that trade...

Corret. They wouldn't trade an up and coming superstar for a washed up flopper.

[Darthkiller]

tp for oj mayo is more reasonable for both teams

[ILoveOranges]

Memphis wants to win later, Spurs want to win now. Conflicting interests, huh? Salary matching and whatnot considered also...

[it's me]

Memphis wants to win later, Spurs want to win now. Conflicting interests, huh? Salary matching and whatnot considered also...
:wakeup

[galvatron3000]

Sometimes, going public with your thoughts can be embarrassing over the course of time.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ditty]

how bout it in 2 years ha

[it's me]

how bout it in 2 years ha


There ya go..... I'll also include Gasol for Duncan and Nene for Oberto

[Ditty]

There ya go..... I'll also include Gasol for Duncan and Nene for Oberto

bosh for duncan and aldridge for oberto haha defintly here comes dynsty part 2 snd another 4 championships

:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:

[Austin_Toros]

Sometimes, going public with your thoughts can be embarrassing over the course of time.

:lmao

[Brazil]

With this big 3 and the actual supporting cast we have this year a shot to win it all. We need nothing except a young big not a superstar rookie to help tim thats all.

[Allanon]

Segu has an interesting way of putting it but I too would trade Manu for Mayo. If the Lakers weren't a strong contender this year, I'd consider trading Kobe for Mayo.

Mayo looks to be the most talented shooting guard since Kobe & DWade. He looks to be the best shooting guard of the next generation of players.

If the Grizz are crazy like Kevin McHale and forgetting that it doesn't work trade wise, I'd say Ginobili/Bonner/Udoka for Mayo straight up is a steal for the Spurs.

Right now, the best Shooting Guards:
1) Kobe
2) Wade
3) Manu
4) Brandon Roy
5) Joe Johnson
6) OJ Mayo

Give OJ a year and my guess is he'll be top 3.

[angelbelow]

i would too, right after the grizzles agree to buy manu out and manu comfirms that hes coming back here.

[T Park]

Why would the grizzlies do that trade?

Mayo has a golden oppurtunity to be a Carmelo Anthony like scorer, and on top of that, is only 20 I believe.

ON TOP OF THAT, the Grizzlies would have to add MORE players to the trade to make it work.

[Kobulingam]

Is OJ Mayo coming off ankle surgery?

[T Park]

No but he did have to have a leech removed.

[z0sa]

I honestly wouldn't trade Manu for OJ Mayo. If you want to win now, Manu is still the best choice. OJ Mayo has zero experience, both in our system and in the playoffs. This would be a horrible trade for the present which every Spurs fan seems so focused on.

[Sean Cagney]

Corret. They wouldn't trade an up and coming superstar for a washed up flopper.

Washed up now? Please stop smoking shyt man, dude is coming off an injury and a career year, he is HARDLY washed up. BTW you are Memphis fan right? Why Dirk4MVP then? Why ride Dallas so hard if you are a Memphis fan? Dirk is not an MVP, he proved that in 06 Finals and two first round exits after that, get off the crack.

[T Park]

I honestly wouldn't trade Manu for OJ Mayo. If you want to win now, Manu is still the best choice. OJ Mayo has zero experience, both in our system and in the playoffs. This would be a horrible trade for the present which every Spurs fan seems so focused on.

I disagree. Mayo would fit in well in that he has a good midrange game, good slasher, and good shooter period.

If you could get Mayo for Manu? I'm sorry but I'd have to pull the trigger on that deal.

[benefactor]

You are being a pretty blind homer if you would not trade Manu for Mayo. Parker is still young and that would be a devastating back court to finish out the Duncan era. Mayo will have a Kobe/Lebron effect on his team in just a couple of seasons. With Mayo on this team you can probably stick one, maybe two more trophies in our case before Duncan retires.

[T Park]

You are being a pretty blind homer if you would not trade Manu for Mayo. Parker is still young and that would be a devastating back court to finish out the Duncan era. Mayo will have a Kobe/Lebron effect on his team in just a couple of seasons. With Mayo on this team you can probably stick one, maybe two more trophies in our case before Duncan retires.

Thats being conservative.

No question in my mind an OJ Mayo type player would make the Spurs THE team to beat in the western conference....

[bdictjames]

No thanks, that would mean ZERO playmakers on this team.

[T Park]

No thanks, that would mean ZERO playmakers on this team.

OJ mayo is not a playmaker?

wow...

[bdictjames]

OJ mayo is not a playmaker?

wow...
He has been known to hog the ball, giving Rudy Gay fewer touches.

[Go For Tree]

Sequ might be half retarded...but i don't see how this is that crazy of a notion.

I wouldn't ever trade one of the big three...but if this trade were purposed to the Spurs, they'd be crazy not to do it.

yeah we know the SPURS would be crazy to pass on this, the point everyone in here is making is that they would NEVER be offered that. Furthermore, youd be crazy to think differently.

[O.J Mayo]

Fuck you, I am not selfish and I am 22.

[T Park]

He has been known to hog the ball, giving Rudy Gay fewer touches.

Doesn't make him any less of a playmaker.

OJ Mayo is the real mfing deal.

[doldrums]

He has been known to hog the ball, giving Rudy Gay fewer touches.


That's true, The Memphis annpuncers were chastising him for making too many 1 on 1 plays and not getting the teammates involved. That trade would kiss any championships goodbye for the next 2 years but potentially create a devastating backcourt for the future.

[kace]

sorry but what's the point of bringing trades that will never happen and are not even conceivable ?

i mean i'm OK to talk about trades that could happen and interest both teams but here it just seems a way to bash a player.

Is the point to say that OJ Mayo is now better than manu. OK. maybe. not even sure. but why make a thread of it ?

a thread to trade Bonner for Dwight Howard, Finley for KB, Oberto for Bosh ? what's next ?

[Ditty]

Corret. They wouldn't trade an up and coming superstar for a washed up flopper.

agree bout the upcoming superstar

not washed up flopper cuz i think thats that piece of shit terry and nowitski and crackhouse...is he even still on the team

[lefty]

and Bonner and Udoka.

Sure

[lefty]

I would trade you for anyone from spurs report.

:lmao

[it's me]

sorry but what's the point of bringing trades that will never happen and are not even conceivable ?

i mean i'm OK to talk about trades that could happen and interest both teams but here it just seems a way to bash a player.

Is the point to say that OJ Mayo is now better than manu. OK. maybe. not even sure. but why make a thread of it ?

a thread to trade Bonner for Dwight Howard, Finley for KB, Oberto for Bosh ? what's next ?

Hahaha coz it's a way of hating without doing it too obvious.

[Armando]

Ok tell me again why Memphis would trade OJ Mayo a superstar in the making for an over 30 shooting guard albeit is Manu Ginobili?

[Armando]

He has been known to hog the ball, giving Rudy Gay fewer touches.



Can't say I blame him for not giving the ball to Rudy Gay. He is Memphis's version of Lamar Odom. All that talent for nothing

[Budkin]

Tough call on this one with Mayo having so much potential but I think in the end Manu has done too much for this franchise and city to send him packing. At least half the fans would revolt.

[MarHill]

sorry but what's the point of bringing trades that will never happen and are not even conceivable ?

i mean i'm OK to talk about trades that could happen and interest both teams but here it just seems a way to bash a player.

Is the point to say that OJ Mayo is now better than manu. OK. maybe. not even sure. but why make a thread of it ?

a thread to trade Bonner for Dwight Howard, Finley for KB, Oberto for Bosh ? what's next ?

I agree!! :lmao

I don't know why these trade scenarios come up all the time on Spurstalk!!

:lmao

[TMTTRIO]

With the way Manu has played coming back from his injury I don't think there are too many teams who would trade for him so I don't see that happening.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why not trade gino for rudy gay?

nothing beats a backcourt of GAY PARKER

[dirk4mvp]

Washed up now? Please stop smoking shyt man, dude is coming off an injury and a career year, he is HARDLY washed up. BTW you are Memphis fan right? Why Dirk4MVP then? Why ride Dallas so hard if you are a Memphis fan? Dirk is not an MVP, he proved that in 06 Finals and two first round exits after that, get off the crack.


http://bum.net/pics/advice-dog-2.jpg

[dirk4mvp]

Segu has an interesting way of putting it but I too would trade Manu for Mayo. If the Lakers weren't a strong contender this year, I'd consider trading Kobe for Mayo.

Mayo looks to be the most talented shooting guard since Kobe & DWade. He looks to be the best shooting guard of the next generation of players.

If the Grizz are crazy like Kevin McHale and forgetting that it doesn't work trade wise, I'd say Ginobili/Bonner/Udoka for Mayo straight up is a steal for the Spurs.

Right now, the best Shooting Guards:
1) Kobe
2) Wade
3) Manu
4) Brandon Roy
5) Joe Johnson
6) OJ Mayo

Give OJ a year and my guess is he'll be top 3.


This year

Wade > Kobe

[AFBlue]

Manu for the next four years (assuming he gets an extension) or Mayo for the next four?

That's an easy call...Mayo. Younger, more athletic, higher potential ceiling, cheap, and the list goes on.

Much as I love Manu, Mayo is a legit all-star calibur player for the next decade.

Edit: Just realized I agree with Sequ. :wow

[HarlemHeat37]

Mayo isn't a ballhog at all..OJ gets his big men more involved than any other guards on the team..

Rudy Gay is actually the ballhog of the 2..

[TMTTRIO]

Manu for the next four years (assuming he gets an extension) or Mayo for the next four?


At this point I don't see Manu getting an extension either

[AFBlue]

At this point I don't see Manu getting an extension

Why not?

The Spurs FO was reportedly discussing an extension before the Olympics and Manu has come back a healthy, effective player. I assume if he stays healthy for the rest of this season he'll be looking at an extension this upcoming summer.

You and I could argue the merits of giving him one and talk about alternatives in 2010, but it would miss the point...if he's healthy I think he's on this team past 2010.

[HarlemHeat37]

Manu hasn't come back healthy though..sure, he's an effective player, but he's not the Ginobili we're accustomed to seeing..

he has a lot of time to get back in form though..if we're getting the Manu we've had since he returned, he won't be getting a serious extension IMO..

[AFBlue]

Manu hasn't come back healthy though..sure, he's an effective player, but he's not the Ginobili we're accustomed to seeing..

he has a lot of time to get back in form though..if we're getting the Manu we've had since he returned, he won't be getting a serious extension IMO..

He played well tonight (on both ends of the court) and scored in a variety of ways....hitting spot-up threes, step-back jumpers, driving and finishing in the lane. Everything was on display tonight and he looked good doing it.

He has also upped his minutes and scoring average steadily since returning in late November. He's right at his career average for shooting percentage and only a couple points lower in 3P%.

You said it yourself that he has a lot of time to "get back into form", and if tonight was any indication...he's well on his way.

I'm guessing he finishes out averaging 17-18PPG in somewhere between 28-30MPG, and he gets an extension for $8-10M/yr out to 2012.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

OJ Mayo is a very good offensive player, with an excellent midrange shot and the ability to finish strong at the basket.

He has the POTENTIAL to be an all-star level player.

He needs to add:

-- Stronger defense, both individual and team.
-- Playing in a team offense -- moving the ball, and most importantly moving without the ball. Right now he really just gets the ball outside and creates.
-- Making his teammates better and making his team win.
-- Showing he has the drive and desire to get better and step up his game on a monthly and yearly basis.

Today, he is not close to Ginobili as a professional player delivering value to his team. He's a very good rookie -- that's all. Ginobili IS an all-star level player, and has been for several years now.

[Rogue]

but we would have to eat their garbage contracts to fill manu's salary. it is not feasible in terms of the wolves who prefer young guys rather than Manu whose career years is now countable even with only one hand.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if manu does get an extention? it should start at around 3-5m a season, any more than than that might as well go youth....

[InK]

if manu does get an extention? it should start at around 3-5m a season, any more than than that might as well go youth....

Ye, rite:downspin:

[spurs50_]

Why not just ask the grizzlies to GIVE us Mayo like they gave away Pau Gasol to the Fakers? I wonder if the grizzlies FO is still smoking crack...:lol

[Indazone]

howbout we trade you our old broken down player for your old broken down player straight up. lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://bum.net/pics/advice-dog-2.jpg

:lol

[Tully365]

Memphis knows that they are nowhere close to winning a title now, so why on earth would they trade the guy who can potentially be their best player for the next decade and is still working on his very inexpensive rookie contract? It'd be different if you were talking about a Denver or an Orlando-- teams that could possibly win it all with one more piece, but why would Memphis make this trade?

[Tully365]

It turns out that the Pau Gasol trade has actually worked out very well for Memphis: in return, so far, they've netted Marc Gasol and Darrell Arthur (traded for Donte Green, who was chosen with the Lakers' first round pick), and still have 2 first round picks coming in the future, one from the Lakers in 2010, and the other from the recent Crittenton trade. Plus, their payroll is lower, making them legit free agency players in '09 and '10. They got a lot of criticism at the time, but it turns out that it was a good trade for them. They were going nowhere fast with him as their highly paid #1 option...

[Rogue]

I would do this trade a few years later when Manu depresses due to age while Mayo becomes more mature and experienced.