What do you think of Rip Hamilton...

[Darrin]

for Manu Ginobili?

[benefactor]

If Manu is back to 100% by the end of the season, it is probably a lateral move. I keep Manu just for chemistry reasons.

[kace]

no

[Rapper]

Rip is absolutely a good shotter but his style doesn't suit the spurs.

[MarCowMar]

Rip's a damn good player but I would hesitate to trade Mason for him, let alone Manu. Manu is a killer people! Do you hear the way opposing fans boo him every time he touches the ball?? Do you know why they do that?! Because he has murdered their teams time and time again! He can change the outcome of a game with pure Argentinian willpower. :) We are very fortunate to have him.

[mathbzh]

no
I like Rip but I think gino is better. If you factor the chemistry there is not even a debate.

Moreover, they are about the same age, have similar salaries... (actually Gino is cheaper), have contracts expiring the same year...

I really don't see how Hamilton would be an upgrade.

[mathbzh]

Because he has murdered their teams time and time again!

Some would say it has something to do with some obscure flopping allegations :rolleyes

[xtremesteven33]

Pass

[leemajors]

i wouldn't do it, but i like rip's mid-range game. his three point shot is nothing to scoff at either.

[it's me]

Trade his ass... a bench player for a multiple allstar why not....

[mrspurs]

It seems Manu has been around longer. But RIP has 9yrs of playing to Manu's 6 based on NBA.com's site. Thats 3 years and alot of PO games. Then again Manu plays alot after the season is over. Id have to say stick with what works. I bet Pop would say the same.

[Bartleby]

What do you think of this Rip Hamilton thread for this one:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113623

[T Park]

stop

trying

to

trade

ginobili..


popdamn....

[z0sa]

Manu is untradeable at this point ... after this season, we'll see what happens with that extension.

[BlackBellamy]

No thanks. I like Rip, but I'm just not IN like with Rip.

[baseline bum]

Rip is absolutely a good shotter but his style doesn't suit the spurs.

I can't see the Spurs running all those screens for him. It would be a horrible fit just like when the Lakers tried to make Glen Rice into a standstill shooter.

[exstatic]

Manu - creator
Rip - feeder

[eisfeld]

Nah... He is an incredible player when it comes to moving without the ball, and that would benefit the Spurs, but Manu is just more valuable... Even when not playing 100% he is a guy who can take over games with key baskets. I don't think the Spurs will trade him for another veteran guard. Although I think trading him after this year for a young prospect would be the right deal.

Damn, writing this just broke my heart :(

[vander]

stop

trying

to

trade

ginobili..


popdamn....

wow, do you do anything but bitch at other posters anymore?

[Rogue]

I would do this trade if the pistons accept KT and Vaughn as a package, but no way should they trade they most sharp shooter for two mediocre veterans, and the likelyhood spurs trade manu is even smaller. this trade offer sucks because it's unfeasible and not pramatic at all.

[doldrums]

no, Rip creates nothing defensively.

[mytespurs]

What is with all the "trade Manu" scenarios? I know he's not 100% right now but this guy goes all out or tries if he's not healthy. I think Manu is still valuable as a Spur; there will come a time when he may no longer be a Spur but I don't think the time is now.

[exstatic]

no, Rip creates nothing defensively.

..or offensively. He's pretty much 100% dependent on others to get his shot.

[angelbelow]

why??

[vander]

..or offensively. He's pretty much 100% dependent on others to get his shot.

I know! right? you'd think he could run around, through some off the ball screens or something, anything! but he just sits there waiting for a teammate to draw a double team or something :lol

[BlackSwordsMan]

could rip have blocked wade?

[Brutalis]

haha piston fan made a funny +1

[Yorae]

Manu will retire on a Spurs jersey.

[galvatron3000]

for Manu Ginobili?

Manu is head and shoulders above RIP in my opinion. No Way, I'd take Manu @ 50% over RIP at 100% but I'd take RIP off the bench over Mason just because RIP would bring a different element to the Spurs and make it difficult for the other teams' D just because he moves so much and well without the ball, would help with our sometimes stagnant offense because you have to keep an eye on him even when he doesn't have the ball.

[ElNono]

I think he looks scary with that mask...

[mrspurs]

wow, do you do anything but bitch at other posters anymore?

I hear he can go throught a box of donuts quite easily.

[anakha]

I hear he can go throught a box of donuts quite easily.

Playbaby post.

[bdubya]

for Manu Ginobili?

I think that with things finally getting settled down, a little more roster upheaval is just exactly what we need. :rolleyes

[jdev82]

well idk. rip is a role player. plain and simple. id love to have him, sure, mainly because he doesnt get as cold as ginobili does, so he isnt as streaky. plus hes a better defender. ginobili, on the other hand, is an explosive scorer, and tries harder than rip. hes a better three point shooter, though his shooting touch isnt as advanced. however, as much as i would love to have another knockdown shooter, ginobili creates those opportunities. i would never want to part with his driving and kicking. pistons dont want him anyway.

[superbigtime]

No friggin way.

[TampaDude]

Uh...hell no...

[Rogue]

it's always good to get a player who can contribute something to your team, but it's sometimes different when you have to sacrifise one of your corner stones for him. I have seen no chance we could get him without losing one of Manu and Tp, so it's not pramatic.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

for Manu Ginobili?

You're kidding, right?

Manu is capable of winning a game in 5 ways, and I don't see that from Rip. Also, he has suffered without Chauncey and been exposed for the pure shooter (without much else to offer) that he is.

No way in hell.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Manu - creator
Rip - feeder

Exactly.

And Manu can win a game defensively, and he's a ferocious clutch rebounder.

I like Rip, but to suggest this... why? Why? Why?

No.

[SenorSpur]

could rip have blocked wade?

Hell no.

Plays like that are EXACTLY why the notion of trading Ginobili is LUDICROUS!

[raspsa]

100% healthy Manu -- absolutely no way RIP
90% healthy Manu -- Still no way RIP
80% healthy manu - - OK but RIP has to pay for his face masks.

[Dr. Gonzo]

:pctoss

[JamStone]

If I were in charge of the Spurs, I don't do the trade either, but some of you Spurs fans are a bit extreme in your commentary. A 50% Manu better than a 100% Rip? Rip is a poor 3 point shooter? He led the league in the 3PT shooting a couple seasons ago with 46%. Last year he shot 44% from 3PT range. He's not a prolific 3 point shooter, but not a poor one. He doesn't create anything defensively? He doesn't have spectacular blocks or 3 steals a game, but he's probably a more consistent and more disciplined defender than Manu. Manu will make a spectacular defensive play, and he'll also gamble and get out of position from those gambles.

I agree that Manu is the better player. I agree the Spurs should not do the trade. I agree with the point about chemistry. But, dam, some of you are just stroking with Ginobilotion. And, I'm a Ginobili slappy myself.

[phxspurfan]

You're kidding, right?

Manu is capable of winning a game in 5 ways, and I don't see that from Rip. Also, he has suffered without Chauncey and been exposed for the pure shooter (without much else to offer) that he is.

No way in hell.

*Trying to count the 5 ways*

A steal
A block
A shot
A freethrow
....



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by speaking Spanish?

[phxspurfan]

If I were in charge of the Spurs, I don't do the trade either, but some of you Spurs fans are a bit extreme in your commentary. A 50% Manu better than a 100% Rip? Rip is a poor 3 point shooter? He led the league in the 3PT shooting a couple seasons ago with 46%. Last year he shot 44% from 3PT range. He's not a prolific 3 point shooter, but not a poor one. He doesn't create anything defensively? He doesn't have spectacular blocks or 3 steals a game, but he's probably a more consistent and more disciplined defender than Manu. Manu will make a spectacular defensive play, and he'll also gamble and get out of position from those gambles.

I agree that Manu is the better player. I agree the Spurs should not do the trade. I agree with the point about chemistry. But, dam, some of you are just stroking with Ginobilotion. And, I'm a Ginobili slappy myself.

Let's not forget how Rip outplayed Kobe in the '04 finals...

[tp2021]

*Trying to count the 5 ways*

A steal
A block
A shot
A freethrow
....



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by speaking Spanish?

You forgot magnets.

[mexicanjunior]

If I were in charge of the Spurs, I don't do the trade either, but some of you Spurs fans are a bit extreme in your commentary. A 50% Manu better than a 100% Rip? Rip is a poor 3 point shooter? He led the league in the 3PT shooting a couple seasons ago with 46%. Last year he shot 44% from 3PT range. He's not a prolific 3 point shooter, but not a poor one. He doesn't create anything defensively? He doesn't have spectacular blocks or 3 steals a game, but he's probably a more consistent and more disciplined defender than Manu. Manu will make a spectacular defensive play, and he'll also gamble and get out of position from those gambles.

I agree that Manu is the better player. I agree the Spurs should not do the trade. I agree with the point about chemistry. But, dam, some of you are just stroking with Ginobilotion. And, I'm a Ginobili slappy myself.

Agreed...I wouldn't do the trade either but Rip Hamilton is a solid player that could definitely help the Spurs win.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

*Trying to count the 5 ways*

A steal
A block
A shot
A freethrow
....



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by speaking Spanish?

:lol

A rebound, a pass... I was speaking colloquially. Basically, I've seen Manu win games in just about every way possible.