Kwame Brown has been Dethroned as the Worst Player in the NBA!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

After Robin Lopez's 0 rebounds and 4 fouls in 5 minutes performance last night, he has taken the title as worst player in the NBA. Reason being:


He has more fouls (42) then he does rebounds (40) this season........that coupled with the fact he's 7 feet tall makes his shittiness truly epic.

[anakha]

Are you talking about this season only?

If so, Lopez still has 7+ seasons of disappointment to show before he can catch up to Kwame.

[IronMexican]

I'd take Kwame over Darko.

[timvp]

I hadn't checked his stats recently but you may be onto something. Two assists in 265 minutes while playing for the Suns? Six rebounds per 40 minutes for a supposed rebounding specialist? He's rebounding worse than George Hill.

Damn, Kerr sure can pick'em . . .

[Lakers_55]

Kwame Brown's legacy may end up being the name of the guy traded for Pau Gasol. One more sucker trade, and it's booked. What do the Pistons need, and what GM is a sucker?

[monosylab1k]

Remember in the preseason when all the "experts" said he was going to be better than his brother? :lmao

[anakha]

Remember in the preseason when all the "experts" said he was going to be better than his brother? :lmao

Wasn't Brooke the more talented of the two anyway?

You might have gotten your names mixed up.

[monosylab1k]

Wasn't Brooke the more talented of the two anyway?

You might have gotten your names mixed up.

From what I had read, most experts thought Brook was more polished offensively while Robin was "more athletic with better upside". And quite a few said Robin would turn into a better pro.

[SpursIndonesia]

I've seen about 3 or 4 New Jersey games broadcasted here, Brooke Lopez seems pretty decent young bigman, solid, unflashy yet focused and fundamentally sound.

[SenorSpur]

I thought the Suns management fancied Lopez and the chief backup for Shaq?

[DANILO DRASKOVIC]

From what I had read, most experts thought Brook was more polished offensively while Robin was "more athletic with better upside". And quite a few said Robin would turn into a better pro.

when they said "upside" they probably looking further than just a few months...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

monosylab is right virtually every idiot on ESPN said Robin would be the better pro. Brook is on my fantasy team and has been great since being moved to the starting lineup.

[sribb43]

Brooke has always been way more polished offensively than his brother. Robin was seen as that hustle type player, how that translates to being a top 20 pick i have no idea. Just like Joakim Noah, they are garbage players. Whoever proclaimed that Robin is better offensively is a f'in moron

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I hadn't checked his stats recently but you may be onto something. Two assists in 265 minutes while playing for the Suns? Six rebounds per 40 minutes for a supposed rebounding specialist? He's rebounding worse than George Hill.

Damn, Kerr sure can pick'em . . .

timvp, per 36 minutes, Robin is averaging 2.9 defensive rebounds, the biggest reason why Kerr said he picked him. Per 36 minutes, Steve Nash is averaging 2.9 defensive rebounds. So Steve Nash is just as good a defensive rebounder as Robin Lopez :lol

There has also been 10-15 passes that flew right through his uncoordinated hands that Nash got credited with a turnover for, so his stats are somewhat sugar coated.

And you're right, Kerr can 'em, Robin Lopez and Tragic Dragic were brilliant.

[mountainballer]

yeah, only a totally clueless GM can pick a big man, who fouls on such a high rate.
a foul every 6.2 minutes.....never a player fouled that much.......let's check........yes he must be top of the list.....no wait, there's another player even better....one foul every 5.4 minutes.....let's check his name........ughh, it's Ian Mahinmi.....ummpff......well, at least RC didn't use a 1st round pick for him......

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Robin has always been way more polished offensively than his brother. Brooke was seen as that hustle type player, how that translates to being a top 20 pick i have no idea. Just like Joakim Noah, they are garbage players. Whoever proclaimed that Brooke is better offensively is a f'in moron

You're getting the names mixed up. Robin is the crappy one, and he is not a hustle player idk where he got that title but he does not hustle at all. Hustle players grab rebounds here and there.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I thought the Suns management fancied Lopez and the chief backup for Shaq?

They fancied him as the most "NBA ready" big man available, and his defense and rebounding would be great at backing Shaq up.

[sribb43]

You're getting the names mixed up. Robin is the crappy one, and he is not a hustle player idk where he got that title but he does not hustle at all. Hustle players grab rebounds here and there.

your right my bad...the one with the side show Bob hair is trash. In college he grabbed a few boards, blocked some shots and took charges and for some reason Kerr thought he was exactly what the Suns needed:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

your right my bad...the one with the side show Bob hair is trash. In college he grabbed a few boards, blocked some shots and took charges and for some reason Kerr thought he was exactly what the Suns needed:lol

I think "a few" boards might be taken the wrong way. He was a 7 footer in the Pac-10 (smallest conference in basketball) and had brother to box out the other teams best rebounder, and only averaged 5 rebounds a game. IMO that translates to a horrible rebounder in the NBA.

The sad part is the majority of the Suns fan base bought the bill of goods Kerr sold and were raving about Lopez. Idk if you remember him but Lopez is the next Hot Rod Williams.

[pauls931]

Is he that bad, or is he just getting the rookie treatment before the refs back off on the fouls? He does seem aggressive which will lead to fouls, but it seems like some players just get lots of fouls called on them no matter what. Some players just have to be standing in the key and they'll pick up 3 fouls in minutes. You know, the opposite of the Jordan rules...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Is he that bad, or is he just getting the rookie treatment before the refs back off on the fouls? He does seem aggressive which will lead to fouls, but it seems like some players just get lots of fouls called on them no matter what. Some players just have to be standing in the key and they'll pick up 3 fouls in minutes. You know, the opposite of the Jordan rules...

He has more fouls than rebounds, the stat is more a statement about how poorly he rebounds for his size than how much he fouls. And no, it is not rookie treatment. It's a lack of good defensive positioning and effort which results in him being out of position and forced to foul.

His fouls, just like Amare's, aren't about being over aggressive. They're about being lazy on defense and not moving your feet enough. I'm tired of him getting credit for being a hustle player when he isn't.

[DANILO DRASKOVIC]

so the Suns back up bigs are Lopez, Armundson, and Dudley...ouch

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

so the Suns back up bigs are Lopez, Armundson, and Dudley...ouch

Amundson has played very well recently (compared to the other bigs at least) and is the team's best per minute rebounder. He needs to work on his free throws and mid range shot (and work on it a lot) and he'll be considered a poor man's Millsap.

He defends undersized 4's who are extremely athletic (David West) and oversized 3's that use their height (Lewis) very well. Underrated player with a lot of heart.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

but Danilo, their bigs still suck. No depth at C behind Shaq. that wasn't an issue when D'antoni knew how to coach with Amare at center, but now they have a coach who doesn't know how to coach period.

[sribb43]

Amundson has played very well recently (compared to the other bigs at least) and is the team's best per minute rebounder. He needs to work on his free throws and mid range shot (and work on it a lot) and he'll be considered a poor man's Millsap.

He defends undersized 4's who are extremely athletic (David West) and oversized 3's that use their height (Lewis) very well. Underrated player with a lot of heart.

sounds like the typical description of a white player in the nba:lol

[dirk4mvp]

sounds like the typical description of a white player in the nba:lol


:lol either that or one dimensional stand still 3 point shooter.

[SenorSpur]

but Danilo, their bigs still suck. No depth at C behind Shaq. that wasn't an issue when D'antoni knew how to coach with Amare at center, but now they have a coach who doesn't know how to coach period.

Wow! That's a strong criticism of Porter. Basically, the Suns doing a 180 degree shift in style. That said, it does take time to see benefits from such a drastic strategy shift. Why are you so down on him? Do other Suns fans and players feel that way, too?

[DANILO DRASKOVIC]

but Danilo, their bigs still suck. No depth at C behind Shaq. that wasn't an issue when D'antoni knew how to coach with Amare at center, but now they have a coach who doesn't know how to coach period.

still no depth at the PG either

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wow! That's a strong criticism of Porter. Basically, the Suns doing a 180 degree shift in style. That said, it does take time to see benefits from such a drastic strategy shift. Why are you so down on him? Do other Suns fans and players feel that way, too?

A growing number of Suns fans feel the same way. I'm not saying D'antoni was a great coach or anything, but Porter is a lot worse.

I know the story is they are trying to play more like the Spurs, and I'm tired of hearing that, cause they aren't. The "drastic strategy shift" you speak of is what I looked forward to but they are still the same no defense Suns. All the things Kerr said Porter would do that D'antoni didn't do were bullshit. He is even worse at holding players accountable, worse at using the bench, and has already lost the locker room.

He's also just a complete idiot when I hear him talk. He's a monotone and he mumbles, he's like Melvin from office space, the "I believe you have my stapler" guy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

still no depth at the PG either

Yup. Lindsay Hunter was a free agent when the season started, so rather than sign the perfect fit as back PG, Kerr lets him go to the Bulls because Dragic is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.

[DANILO DRASKOVIC]

Yup. Lindsay Hunter was a free agent when the season started, so rather than sign the perfect fit as back PG, Kerr lets him go to the Bulls because Dragic is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
maybe selling/trading your draft pick isnt the best idea
their picks have been used for sergio Rodriguez, rudy fernandez, nate robinson, and rajon rondo...and none of them have played for the sons

[layupdrill]

Kwame has held that title for a while.

[TheProfessor]

Phoenix has done a piss-poor job recognizing what they can burden their rookies with. Robin's development always lagged behind his brother, but he showed great improvement later in his final season with Stanford. They should have realized his learning curve in the NBA would be steeper. Couple that with the Dragic situation and you get a feel for how incompetent they've been with talent evaluation.

[SenorSpur]

A growing number of Suns fans feel the same way. I'm not saying D'antoni was a great coach or anything, but Porter is a lot worse.

I know the story is they are trying to play more like the Spurs, and I'm tired of hearing that, cause they aren't. The "drastic strategy shift" you speak of is what I looked forward to but they are still the same no defense Suns. All the things Kerr said Porter would do that D'antoni didn't do were bullshit. He is even worse at holding players accountable, worse at using the bench, and has already lost the locker room.

He's also just a complete idiot when I hear him talk. He's a monotone and he mumbles, he's like Melvin from office space, the "I believe you have my stapler" guy.

Strong stuff. I understand that Porter recently relented and allowed them to "run" more than he did at the beginning of the season. How's that working out?

I know they're only 1/3 of the way through this season, but are the natives getting restless? Any talk of Kerr and/or Porter being on the hot seat?

I look forward to watching the Suns against the Mavs tonight.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

maybe selling/trading your draft pick isnt the best idea
their picks have been used for sergio Rodriguez, rudy fernandez, nate robinson, and rajon rondo...and none of them have played for the sons

You think I don't know this?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Strong stuff. I understand that Porter recently relented and allowed them to "run" more than he did at the beginning of the season. How's that working out?

I know they're only 1/3 of the way through this season, but are the natives getting restless? Any talk of Kerr and/or Porter being on the hot seat?

I look forward to watching the Suns against the Mavs tonight.

Here's the problem with "running". If the Suns were able to selectively run like the Spurs, then it would be alright. Unfortunately, by letting them "run", Nash Amare and Barbosa interpret that as, "YAY, NO DEFENSE!!!"

Porter's job is safe for at least this year. Kerr's job is safe for awhile given the fact he is a minority owner of the team and he and Sarver have been friends since college. David Griffin, the vice president of the team, might be next to go and rightfully so. The guy is an idiot and thinks he's the next RC Buhford.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

sounds like the typical description of a white player in the nba:lol

He's actually coordinated as hell and athletic, that's where he differs from most white players. If he's used correctly he's a great guy to have on a team for spot minutes.

[Bob Lanier]

Kwame Brown has never been the worst player in the NBA!!!

[DANILO DRASKOVIC]

He had 4 rebounds and 0 fouls!!!!
Take that!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He had 4 rebounds and 0 fouls!!!!
Take that!!!

I know, his foul:rebound ratio is now >1. S-T-U-D. I wish the Suns just had a competent coach so games like this would happen more often.