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Austin_Toros
01-09-2009, 04:11 PM
Ok, so Tolliver wasn't shooting well and he was probably not the best defender, but he's just a kid (23 yrs). Most probably forget that he is a ROOKIE. He was on a contract worth peanuts and probably would have developed into a better shooting big man.

So why did the spurs loose their faith in this guy?

I don't see why there was any need to can him. If anyone, Vaughn should have gone, possibly Udoka.
I liked Tolliver, and thought he sould stay. What the hell did we achieve by waiving him?

I personally think that the spurs are at a loss with this move. :(

EricB
01-09-2009, 04:14 PM
At a loss for waiving a 30% shooter?

Rockhound
01-09-2009, 04:14 PM
Championship or Bust. Not daycare for rookies.

mexicanjunior
01-09-2009, 04:18 PM
His roster spot could be put to much better use...

ploto
01-09-2009, 04:18 PM
They did not want to guarantee his contract for the rest of the season.

xellos88330
01-09-2009, 04:52 PM
Matt Bonner is having a breakout year for the Spurs. It was a role that Tolliver was supposed to fill, but just couldn't do for some unknown reason. I like Tollivers game, but he needs to work on performing under pressure.

ClingingMars
01-09-2009, 04:56 PM
to sign Miles?!?

-Mars

angelbelow
01-09-2009, 04:56 PM
lets let the dust settle first. a few things we should be patient about rather than blast waving tolliver.

-was this purely a money saving move with no intention of possibly improving the team
-is ian almost ready to return or is he out for the rest of the season and leaving us short on big men.
-will another nba team even come in the scoop up tolliver or will we have the best chance of bring him back.

tp2021
01-09-2009, 05:01 PM
His spot will be used to give players 10-day tryouts.

BlackBellamy
01-09-2009, 05:06 PM
Ok, so Tolliver wasn't shooting well and he was probably not the best defender, but he's just a kid (23 yrs). Most probably forget that he is a ROOKIE. He was on a contract worth peanuts and probably would have developed into a better shooting big man.

So why did the spurs loose their faith in this guy?

I don't see why there was any need to can him. If anyone, Vaughn should have gone, possibly Udoka.
I liked Tolliver, and thought he sould stay. What the hell did we achieve by waiving him?

I personally think that the spurs are at a loss with this move. :(

Isn't the point of the D-league to 'D'evelop players? If you need time to find your game it should not be on a championship caliber squad. Very limited ability to absorb error comfortably in the west this year, so no f*cking room for 'trial and error' players.

benefactor
01-09-2009, 05:30 PM
lets let the dust settle first. a few things we should be patient about rather than blast waving tolliver.

-was this purely a money saving move with no intention of possibly improving the team
-is ian almost ready to return or is he out for the rest of the season and leaving us short on big men.
-will another nba team even come in the scoop up tolliver or will we have the best chance of bring him back.
There could be a lot more truth to this than we know. If we don't find a player that fits well and Ian is a no go then bringing back Tolliver would make sense. He already knows the system and he could sit the end of the bench for insurance purposes.

Behrooz24
01-09-2009, 06:04 PM
because he's creepy looking.

Duncan2177
01-09-2009, 06:11 PM
Horry?

Crookshanks
01-09-2009, 06:15 PM
Horry?
I heard Bill Schoening talking with Mike Monroe in the pre-game show last night and he said he still believes Robert Horry will be back in a Spurs uniform before the end of the season.

Getting rid of Tolliver gives them more flexibility - he also said this down economy is affecting even the NBA and everyone is looking to save money.

DannyT
01-09-2009, 06:29 PM
to sign Miles?!?

-Mars

you beat me too it....this would be classic if soooo

SenorSpur
01-09-2009, 06:34 PM
I heard Bill Schoening talking with Mike Monroe in the pre-game show last night and he said he still believes Robert Horry will be back in a Spurs uniform before the end of the season.


No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

tav1
01-09-2009, 06:40 PM
Ok, so Tolliver wasn't shooting well and he was probably not the best defender, but he's just a kid (23 yrs). Most probably forget that he is a ROOKIE. He was on a contract worth peanuts and probably would have developed into a better shooting big man.

So why did the spurs loose their faith in this guy?

I don't see why there was any need to can him. If anyone, Vaughn should have gone, possibly Udoka.
I liked Tolliver, and thought he sould stay. What the hell did we achieve by waiving him?

I personally think that the spurs are at a loss with this move. :(

You're a little late to this discussion.

Try here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113827

Or here:

http://48minutesofhell.blogspot.com/2009/01/watching-rotation-tolliver-bell-tolls.html

Or, if that fails, here:

http://tinyurl.com/96arcg

EricB
01-09-2009, 06:55 PM
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Yeah clutch shooting big men suck.

benefactor
01-09-2009, 07:06 PM
Yeah clutch shooting big men suck.
One's that are completely washed up do.

Yorae
01-09-2009, 08:15 PM
to sign Miles?!?

-Mars

:rollin

45 bank shot
01-09-2009, 08:18 PM
he doesn't meet spurs' need..!!
http://laiba.tianya.cn/laiba/images/1171615/12313322052033235770/A/1/m.jpg

Yorae
01-09-2009, 08:22 PM
Hey bank shot is that gif your sig? we could use some of that in the playoffs LOL.

m33p0
01-09-2009, 09:05 PM
he doesn't meet spurs' need..!!
http://laiba.tianya.cn/laiba/images/1171615/12313322052033235770/A/1/m.jpg
that screams nash thread! OMG :lmao

Austin_Toros
01-09-2009, 09:55 PM
I heard Bill Schoening talking with Mike Monroe in the pre-game show last night and he said he still believes Robert Horry will be back in a Spurs uniform before the end of the season.


let's hope not

mrspurs
01-10-2009, 08:04 AM
Yeah clutch shooting big men suck.

You must mean like Fab. At least Fab can pass the ball. Tip out a rebound here and there. Horry only uses 2/3's of the court. He runs from one arc to the other. Then without hesitation launches up duck burners. And when his shots or clanking, anyone inbetween those arcs might just get a shot to the back, or a hip check to the scorers table. :lol Yeah thats real clutch for a Big Man.

SenorSpur
01-10-2009, 08:47 AM
Yeah clutch shooting big men suck.

Denial is a river in Egypt too. Let it go for heaven's sake.

BOHOLANO#21
01-10-2009, 08:48 AM
Ok, so Tolliver wasn't shooting well and he was probably not the best defender, but he's just a kid (23 yrs). Most probably forget that he is a ROOKIE. He was on a contract worth peanuts and probably would have developed into a better shooting big man.

So why did the spurs loose their faith in this guy?

I don't see why there was any need to can him. If anyone, Vaughn should have gone, possibly Udoka.
I liked Tolliver, and thought he sould stay. What the hell did we achieve by waiving him?

I personally think that the spurs are at a loss with this move. :(
if you pay his salary, call the spurs front office and maybe they will call tolliver back. money is money, esp. with these economic situation right now. go spurs go!

MarHill
01-10-2009, 11:52 AM
I believe that roster spot opened from Tolliver being waived is to make room for Horry to come back after the All-Star break!!


:lol

YoMamaIsCallin
01-10-2009, 12:04 PM
They wanted him to have a spot in the rotation and gave him a ton of chances. He just didn't step up. Therefore he was not worth a guaranteed contract and they had to waive him. They could bring him back on a couple of 10 days if no one else signs him. But, anyone who does sign him would have to guarantee the rest of the season.

So they are left with Malik Hairston and Ian Mahinmi on the inactive list, and one open roster spot they can fill with 10 day contracts, or maybe sign someone. And the twelve active players are:

bigs Oberto/Thomas/Bonner/Duncan (Mahinmi injured)

SFs Finley/Udoka/Bowen (Hairston assigned to Toros)

smalls Ginobili/Parker/Hill/Mason/Vaughn

Not a bad group at all.

45 bank shot
01-10-2009, 01:34 PM
Hey bank shot is that gif your sig? we could use some of that in the playoffs LOL.

Yes definitely bro, we should get like ten guys in boxers when playing the fakershttp://laiba.tianya.cn/laiba/images/1171615/12313322052033235770/A/1/m.jpg

BlackBellamy
01-10-2009, 07:14 PM
Yes definitely bro, we should get like ten guys in boxers when playing the fakershttp://laiba.tianya.cn/laiba/images/1171615/12313322052033235770/A/1/m.jpg

Jesus! With the typical physique of us folks here in San Antonio, that would just be cruel. Against the lakeshow? Do it! :lol What was the game that you took your sig from?

Manufan909
01-10-2009, 08:45 PM
Speaking of Malik, I'd like Pop to play him finally. I know hindsight is 20/20, but if he'd been active last game he would've had some serious minutes(if you think 12 is serious). It's all good, him and Gist are getting nice minutes for next year, when the Spurs finally repeat!!!

:flag:

Obstructed_View
01-10-2009, 08:50 PM
I'm not ready to call Hairston by his first name until he earns it.

Manufan909
01-10-2009, 08:57 PM
Ha, I was about to defend him until I realized where you were coming from. Ten years from now, if someone joins the team named Manu, Tony, or Tim(or Ian:lmao), I'll use a last name basis too.:lol

Austin_Toros
01-10-2009, 09:28 PM
I'm not ready to call Hairston by his first name until he earns it.

But I love saying Malik!